₦airaland Forum

[color=royalblue]Is this the major problem of the school?

Who cursed us as a country? Please free us.[/color]

Theflint1:
And this is the point

[color=royalblue]I would have seen the point, if the HR candidate was looking for an engineering role to survive.

She's not.[/color]

Theflint1:
People go to school to give themselves options, and this is why they go for certain courses and fields when deciding on what to study.

I can study Engineering, and get a job after graduation as an Engineer, then midway decide I want to become a HR professional, and with 300K I'd become one. That I have that option, I'm in a more advantageous position over someone that doesn't have such flexibility available.

[color=royalblue]I like how you designed this reality for yourself

But there are HR jobs everywhere. An HR person has opportunities in his own field; The same field that you are going to have an opportunity too. Think am nau

Kpokrikpoo.. Dem no dey find am [/color]

Theflint1:
Insufficient STEM jobs and ease of STEM grads transitioning to non-STEM are two different discourses.

Even if there were enough STEM jobs, it would still be easy for STEM grads to transition into non-STEM and that's the point we've been making.

[color=royalblue]If there were enough STEM jobs, this argument wouldn't even exist.

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BlueRayDick:
This is the point I've been struggling to make them see. Nigeria is not a country driven by STEM at all ; our manufacturing industry is almost dead. We are import dependent country where most of the STEM graduates need to either travel abroad or go back to the social sciences they've been badmouthing for the past few days for them to see good job.

[color=royalblue]I don't see the transitioning as any advantage.

You did not study Engineering to end up in Retail banking. You ended up there because you didn't see a job after 5 years. That's a problem, if you ask me.[/color]

BlueRayDick:
U did not exaggerate anything.

Attached are screenshot of HR job openings in Ardova Petroleum, Nestoil and UBA. If u just go through search on LinkedIn there are tons of these job openings in different top tier companies across different industries from Oil and gas to banking, to fintech, tech companies like LG electronics in Nigeria, etc.

He knows u are saying the truth but he won't agree.

[color=royalblue]Toor

You know say I no dey Corporate world. So I no wan argue

I know I see more non STEM jobs everyday than I see a STEM job.[/color]

Theflint1:
Let's assume you're not suggesting that all HR grads automatically have jobs waiting for them, and don't have to hunt for jobs outside of their fields of study.

My point is, if my turf (however small you suggest it might be) you can't enter, but I can with little stress enter your own turf and compete with you, who's at an advantage, me, or you?

[color=royalblue]You are entering his turf because

1) Your turf has no offer for you
2) His turf has a space for you

You are seeing it as an advantage, but I am seeing a big problem.

Most of our Engineering graduates end up with non STEM jobs. Is this truly an advantage?[/color]

GloriousGbola:
It is what it is.

Same applies to engineering.

Outside of energy and construction and for a while telcos there was not much for engineers

Physics is a celebrated course abroad but in naija it is for those who could not make it into engineering. Ironic as physics is likely more difficult

[color=royalblue] Exactly how I see it.

Rather than celebrating STEMs for transitioning easily into philosophy, we should be afraid of how the lack of jobs are killing that sector.

Engineering is almost becoming like History; No jobs[/color]

raumdeuter:
Where did you get the impression that HR jobs are readily available?

Are there graduates of HR who have been seeking HR jobs but not able to find?

Almost every job requires competition, Now competing with people who studied your course is one thing, but competing against every graduate is another thing

So wat advantage do you get by studying HR when everyone can just put head

[color=royalblue]Maybe I exaggerated, but HR jobs are more readily available than engineering jobs.

The ratio fit be 15 to 1 sef[/color]

BlueRayDick:
This is a very simple point almost everyone understands except Theflint1.

[color=royalblue]The issue of STEM graduates transitioning is not a thing of pride. It shows that Nigeria has a problem of providing jobs for the STEM INCLINED

Yes, STEM candidates can easily switch, and that is because there are no jobs for them, not because they want to.

Nigeria is not a producing nation, and that is a big hindrance for the STEMs.

Most pharmaceutical companies import their drugs. They would have a robust Account, HR, Sales and Marketing dept. But maybe na 10 pharmacologists fit they there

Elizade that sells Toyota; How many automobile engineers dey there? But Account department fit reach 200 staff.

The argument shows the shortcomings of STEM in Nigeria, rather than how versatile the field is.[/color]

Theflint1:
Not my point, I'm saying the way it was relatively easy for him to make that sort of career transition, can a HR professional make similar transition into STEM?

[color=royalblue]You are making a career transition because you did not see a job. An engineering graduate in HR is because condition make crayfish bend

Why should an HR person transition, when the job is readily available?[/color]

Theflint1:
Assuming I was a HR graduate, is there a 300K certitifcation available for me to work as a microbiologist, or as an Engineer or Doctor?

[color=royalblue]This is you assuming that there are no HR jobs, which isn't true.

All organizations make provisions for a Human resource department

Not All make provisions for engineers or microbiologists[/color]

[color=royalblue]Una wake up, say na STEM matter una wan force inside Blueraydick mouth


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[color=royalblue]Your child can only read Philosophy or Urhobo education if you have provided a soft and easy life for them. That way, they can further and become the 1% in those categories

For most of us Africans, we started life handicapped.

Your parents dey struggle, and see you as a form of investment to retire at old age, so you must not fail. Na why na only Engineer and Doctor full children mouth for here.

I saw Yamal's videos as a kid. No struggling man will carry his child at that age to play football. E go rather gamble on Engineering and Accounting.
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afrodoc:
You want use Lexus achieve person wife?

Diaris God o.

[color=royalblue] Nothing wey we no go hear for this country [/color]

PtolemySoter:
Izzou you bully that man come bully me too?

U dey too oppress o.

[color=royalblue]My hands are clean, sire[/color]

[color=royalblue] afrodoc

Kpele [/color]

iamoyindamola:
He even mention the governor, nothing happen
He's walking free on the streets
Omo e be things

[color=royalblue]Let us just be playing and cruising.

That's the best we can do [/color]

BlueRayDick:
They've been arresting them in Edo state since the government carried the demolition of the building

[color=royalblue] Arresting NBM members?

What about other cult groups?[/color]

iamoyindamola:
The bbc celebrity, he exposed politicians and nothing was done to him
He even proudly displayed his pump action

[color=royalblue]Many things have happened in Nigeria that shows we are not serious as a country.

I have finally settled with my spirit that even if you put Obi, Tinubu and Atiku to rule at the same time, we cannot go anywhere.

The same cycle of corrupt people, standards and patterns are just changing places and positions

Person say e be cultist, e even show house wey Governor build for am. How do you expect any change from that kind of system?[/color]

BlueRayDick:
That one dey observe table manners ; If u dey chop for the table, don't talk. I guess until kabaka talk wetin pass him mouth, he is safe.

[color=royalblue]I no sure say any politician dey, we no get these guys on Speed dial.

Most likely a political issue between him and NBM. I never even see any arrests sef.[/color]

BlueRayDick:
@Theflint1 e be like say e Don set between Monday and these people. First he carried out demolition of their headquarters and revoked their C of O. Now he's ordered the arrest of their national leader.

Would u support Monday's administration going forward if he's able to tackle effectively the cultism menace in Edo state with this his approach?

https://www.nairaland.com/8423558/cultism-okpebholo-orders-arrest-nbm

[color=royalblue]Wake me up when I see him cuffing Kabaka

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OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Boko Haram are on the offensive in the North especially Borno. Back to back attacks

BAT have failed to secure Nigerians

[color=royalblue]USAID funds never stop?

Propaganda upon agenda[/color]

raumdeuter:
Any buyer wey dey read this. I am open to selling my account to any rich private or public personality who can pay in USD

[color=royalblue]Na bulk purchase dem dey find.

No be 2 or 3 accounts [/color]

TemporaryHansel:
When are they doing nairaland version

[color=royalblue]Dey play

Everybody dey invade everywhere [/color]

reccy:
In case you know anyone from kogi state

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[color=royalblue] Instead of writing to JAMB and getting the correct names and number, they throw it open

In the end, na ghost names and their family members dem go use fill the list.

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Akinlot:
My son is the exact opposite of yours and I was recently having this conversation with a friend.

He is extremely good with numbers, spatial reasoning and numeracy.

Many times when he does his home work, we will be looking at those diagrams together and before me who is an adult figures it out, my 6 year old son knows what to do. He has never scored below 100 in any numercy exam. Whether it is maths or quantitative reasoning.

When it comes to verbal, he just leaves it and waits for me to tell him what to do.

I wonder why he can't just transfer the math skills to verbal.

[color=royalblue] Blueraydick

Food don land. Remember to cc the right person [/color]

Ibime:
Hammerblow for Flint, the last PDP man standing

https://www.nairaland.com/8422241/im-not-returning-aso-rock

donbrowser:
Small truth dey inside wetin you talk. When we are ready for important discussion, we will look at the allocations of some South-South states since 1999 till date and why they are still so backward despite having very small population

[color=royalblue]We have used the excuse of Lagos having the only functional port and all what not as the reason for its success

How come other governors along the coast line cannot replicate this model and also develop their cities?

When a place has a good network for transportation, security and power, businesses will move there speedily. Gradually, it's starts to develop, because people will migrate there without being told.

I no be APC fanboy, but it is not Lagos fault that other states refused to have sense [/color]

TemporaryHansel:
I believe she's not taking the case seriously enough though. With the way she's going, one of these days it's highly likely she'll come out and say she has dropped the case or they've settled out of court.
If she continues playing with this case I'll never defend a Nigerian woman again in this lifetime. Walahi, Everytime you support a Nigerian woman that accuse someone of rape or sexual harassment, they always end up making you look like a joke and regretting your actions.

[color=royalblue] Defending a woman who accused someone of rape is not the issue.

The issue is defending someone who is well known, not with rumours, but facts that she is a manipulative liar.

When you guys are done defending, una go see Akpabio and Akpotieri hug themselves for public [/color]

Gentlelife50:
Oga the problem of your Lagos that you are always singing like anthem is lack of organization, do you know a state in India habours almost 245 million persons?
Carlifonia has almost 40 million persons, followed by Texas currently 31 million yet you will never feel it, one day you will wake to know how they have been shortchanging you because of your little mind.
I know you will come with another reply but all I will say is zuzuwe, lazy okenye shouting our Lagos up and down.
🏃 🏃 🏃

[color=royalblue]You need to also factor the land mass of the state in India that is harbouring 245 million. (India sef na very wrong example)

Texas is bigger than Nigeria (If I am not wrong).

Lagos is too small for the workload on it, and it is the failure of past and present governments to not have created similar cities like that.[/color]

BlueRayDick:
Hill wey I don collect C of O and governor’s consent ?

Dey play

[color=royalblue]Your jersey na original

E no fit tear[/color]