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reccy:
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Egbon, someone dy vex me for his takes here and e dy do me somehow.

[color=royalblue]Me sef surprise as you change overnight, but I say make i no talk

I remember you tackling someone here for supporting Tinubu. I surprise say you begin shout say him get proven record.

Like i advised, there is no WE here oh..All man for himself.

You complained about ASUU, but also remember that BAT doesn't have a single ward in any Nigerian University. Infact, his daughters your age are buying properties worth millions of dollars in the USA.

Obi children no dey Nigeria sef. Atiku is not called #DubaiMan for nothing.

No join crowd oh....Na your own self make you check.[/color]

[color=royalblue]GEJ came in, knew the security force was understaffed and did NEXT TO NOTHING about it.

PMB came in, knew the security force was understaffed and did NEXT TO NOTHING about it.

I think it is very glaring to see that Nigeria does not have the resources to employ more personnels. This excuse is starting sound like the New national anthem.

I once asked here on what the salary for 50k soldiers would be annually; exclude funds for training, equipments, welfare and all that. Where would BAT get those funds?

Yes, you can remind me about monies lost to corruption, but the corruption will also be there after 2023.

So when you remove the ones they will thief, where will you get the resources to employ 50k personnel?[/color]

Theflint1:
The Nigerian army today is estimated at 220K person's. Any idea that seeks to increase that number by approximately 23,000% will always be laughed at.

We def need numbers, and from my layman perspective, even adding 400K person's to the army should give us the bodies needed to send these guys back into the desert.

[color=royalblue]I thought he corrected himself and said it was 50,000.

Why are you still holding on to 5 million na? [/color]

[color=royalblue]You have a great relationship with your mum, so i suggest you don't ruin it because of your girlfriend.

Separate both relationships; Be a loving son to your mum, and a loving boyfriend/babypapa to your girlfriend

We must not love each other for us to live in peace. Mutual respect and distance will do just fine

Don't let her stay with your mum again. Your mum does not deserve that kind of wahala[/color]

Nostradamus1:
I confirmed before posting it here that it happened in SE. I can also show how I confirmed it. I , however added a caveat that I wasn't aware of it was an old or new video.

Back to the matter at hand, I believe you misunderstood me. When someone claims genocide is happening in Nigeria, it would be important if it is backed with facts. Then we need to understand the context the person refers to it as genocide. We can start screaming from now till tomorrow without knowing what is actually happening and how to help refugees and also certain informations not to posted.

I tried looking again and came across this tweet below. Earlier reads from a lot of tweeps claim the government/military abandoned this people and all that.

[color=royalblue]This is a tweet from the same Shehu Sani saying 21 people were killed senselessly. If you agree with him that the military repelled the attack yesterday, do you also agree with him that 21 people died?

Or do need Police and military report to verify this tweet?

It is okay not to believe it happened. But trying to commonize it and asking for proof, as if we are talking about the death of birds in a poultry is very insensitive.

That was how a lady tweeted that she had been shot on a train, and one guy in his room was asking for proof, only to find out that she actually died.

Nigeria is not safe. People die daily and those cases are not reported. The BBC doc on Zamfara was an eye opener that 30 people can die tonight, and nobody will hear

May God not let us be killed gruesomely, and someone will be mocking our death from the comfort of his bed[/color]

Nostradamus1:
All I keep hearing is genocide in Southern Kaduna. The people making that statement should check the meaning of the word "genocide".

As regards the "supposed" killings, is there any concrete information anyone can provide? Places that were attacked, people who were shot(witness statement), police and military reports.

Do you expect people to start screaming genocide up and down. You can simply present the information contextually and factually. A lot people here have a lot doing this period to start paying attention to Southern Kaduna. If you want to raise interest in the issues ravaging the area, proper information is a must.


Make propaganda no kill us for this country

[color=royalblue]When you posted a video of people clapping for masked men in the SE, which eye witness report did you read? Which place did you hear that it happened? What police or military reports did you read too?

What is bad is bad. And when statements like yours are made, it shows how we are losing our affections as humans first.

This is not an issue of whether the killing was religious, tribal or political. People were killed, and there was a burial.

I don't see what you need a report for[/color]

Theflint1:
Seriously, these rallies shouldn't surprise you. If me wey no dey contest for election drop #2 Billion for crowd mobilization, you'd see crowds to the high heavens, and I'm not contesting for any position.

These crowds you see in APC rallies is money talking, no more no less.

The people will speak come election day and those that believe because they saw like 3000 person's in Peter Obi's rally in PH means he'd get 3k votes would have their theory put to the test.

[color=royalblue]Most of these rallies are pointers on how unemployment is ravaging this country

Person go fix rally on a Monday morning by 10:00am, stadium go full[/color]

Itsrm:
Lol, they don't need to know. They only need to know they are thumb printing one party as president and another as Senator or HOR. Nigerians are definitely capable of doing that. When I have time, I will pull out several instances when Nigerians have gone with separate choices for Presidential and HOR elections. Numerous instances abound.

[color=royalblue]Please pull it out

Also show us who won the presidential in that senatorial zone.

In 2015, Buhari won the presidential election in Lagos. Goodluck Jonathan won a particular zone in Lagos, and the senator and HoR that won there too were PDP

People cannot differetiate both on that day, because they don't even know the senator sef

Use this thread as a yardstick. Most Obedients here are voting for Obi on that day, but none of them have talked about who the senators are.

So on that day, they are presented with two slips; one for Presidential and Senatorial.

Who do you think they will vote for senatorially?[/color]

Itsrm:
If you read a couple of pages back, it was clearly established on this thread that Nigerians are indeed capable of voting two separate parties even if the election is on the same day.

It was between larri.de, afrodoc.2 and Trebl.eChamp. You can go back to read it.

Wike is the major financer of Sandy Onor who is the PDP governorship aspirant in Cross Rivers State. Donald Duke the former governor and leader of PDP in the state is also his strong ally.

If you want to believe his control is only in Rivers State, fine. The facts before us suggests otherwise.

[color=royalblue]Nigerians are capable of voting two different candidates when it is the Presidential and Governorship

That was the facts presented yesterday. And these two elections are not on the same day. The governorship is a week after Nigeria has known her new president.

Most Senators have to ride on the popularity of the Presidential candidate. Many people here don't even know the names of the senators of the different parties contesting for their zones.

Can you tell us the Senator representing PDP, APC, and LP for you zone? I doubt. But you definitely can for the governorship.

The fact of yesterday can't include senators. They mostly ride on the popularity of the Presidential candidate[/color]

Itsrm:
His control extends beyond the south. As an example, the Kano faction of PDP loyal to Kwankwaso is with him. Same as Benue state.

When you come to the South, Ondo, Lagos, Oyo, Cross Rivers, Enugu, Abia, Rivers all have a faction loyal or completely loyal to him

[color=royalblue]My brother, no Senator will jeopardise his future because Wike doesn't want Atiku to win.

The Presidential and Senatorial elections will be at the same time, same day. Which faction will have the time, campaigning for electorates to vote another party in Presidential, and vote PDP in senate?

The moment he lost out, he held only Rivers with his grips. Any other faction have moved on. Kano PDP needs to win senatorial seats too. So how will they demarket Atiku, and ask for people to vote PDP on that same day?

Infact, i feel Wike has realised he has only Rivers on his cards, hence the ISWAPic approach to destroy Atiku[/color]

BlueRayDick:
Shebi na wetin I dey talk all this while be that . Itsrm thinks otherwise , he thinks Wike is doing well.

Wike knows his influence is only in Rivers state .

Wike has a garrulous character that doesn’t portray him as a man with national outlook. He only thinks about his immediate environment and immediate consequence of his actions . A man with foresight will know that fighting Atiku to a standstill like he’s doing may achieve the immediate result of denying Atku votes in his state , but the after effects of it in the long run means u are binding ur own people to the philistines sooner or later

[color=royalblue]Wike may probably just want to become a Lugard over Rivers for as long as he liveth. I don't think he can be Nigeria's president ever again.
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Itsrm:
The bolded is false and what I've always argued with Roland17

That guy controls the PDP to some extent in more than 10 states. If it was just Rivers State, PDP would have suspended him.

Except you are referring to his influence once he leaves office.

[color=royalblue]How many states are in Southern Nigeria, that Wike has control, to some extent over 10?[/color]

reccy:
Anything that favours Asiwaju From SE is religiously accepted by me whether it will affect WIKE in future or not, Make he just dy press Atiku neck for me.

I'm also sure, he knows the pros and cons of his actions, so he is not that politically naive as not to strategies for life after his tenure.

With him, it's so certain that Rivers will fall for either Obi or BAT. So its a win win situation either way for BAT.


In broda shaggi's voice: that's what we are praying for!.

[color=royalblue]Favouring anybody is not the issue. The problem would be what this revenge could pose for the South in the future.

Atiku can easily spin this tribally, the same way Obi is leveraging on Muslim-Muslim ticket

This action should never be supported in any way, because if another Wike-like governor emerges from the North in the fututre, the south would never have those numbers needed to win.

There are 5 governors against Atiku. Why is only Wike taking it overboard?[/color]

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For me, i think Wike might be hurting the chances of Southern candidates in the North. I also believe all these stunts will be effective in Rivers and Rivers, only.

This election will be heavily influenced by religious and tribal sentiments.

This, I have seen

Bimffo[/color]

Bimffo:
I keep saying it that Kogi state indigenes are just going with the media flow.

[color=royalblue]I am happy he was the one that listed it himself

In 8 years, this is what our White Lion could do.

Issokay [/color]

Amoto94:
Head-to-Head despite the obvious failure of "The White Lion" he's better than Peter Obi when it comes governance.
He has legacy projects to show despite the lean resources and the dangerous situation he met the state on assumption of office.
3 Reference Hospitals across the 3Senatorial districts, several kilometres of roads reconstructed across the state, he tamed ASUU in Kogi State University, initiated Confluence University of Science And Technology, Osara, Omi Rice Mill, presently there's a PPP arrangement to build a Cement plant by Dahiru Mangal company (the name escaped my memory).
He was able to keep bandits and kidnappers at bay by investing in security architecture and recruiting locals as vigilantes alongside hunters to comb the bushes and forest across the entire stretch of the state; this is a state bordering about 10 or so states including the FCT and the 13th largest in terms of landmass, this is a state that almost as big as the entire SE region. He won the best Governor on security, you can verify this claim.

[s] However, his legacy will forever be tainted by the issue of nonpayment/underpayment of salaries which he's partly responsible for. Since 1999 Kogi civil servants have had to deal with poor working conditions with the only exception being the administration of Gov Ibrahim Idris between 2003-2011, during the time of late Prince Audu workers in the state are paid using what they refer to as satanic chart and pensioners were called dead woods [/s].

[color=royalblue]So, in 8 years, this is what a man you consider better than Obi did

He built 3 Reference Hospitals
Tamed ASUU (What an achievement )
Initiated Confluence University of Science and Technology
Presently a PPP with whoever
Keep bandits and kidnappers at bay.


This is the achievement of the man that is better than Obi?



I love how beautiful Kogi looks in your comment.[/color]

raumdeuter:
Any govt who removes Subsidy deserves a 3rd term cos that is a ballsy move

Every candidate promises to remove it but the moment they are sworn in they develop amnesia

But a post subsidy Nigeria I dunno what it will look like sha

reccy:
We voted for Buhari in 2015 because we were tired of Otuo.ke drunkard. The tuwo chewing idiot was there playing with our intelligence concerning our plights and then came 2019 having 2 known useless aspirants- I mean, having two old idiots inform of Atiku and the kunu man, what can we do? In as much as Buhari has deceived us with promise upon promise, atleast he is still better than Atiku.

Atiku digusts me a lot. I can still stomach obi with his lies but Atiku?

It is a case of having to go with lesser idiot. But this time around that we have a proven man , a slowpoke and a thief. Kogi is ready to vote right.

Gbagbe yen egbon izzou, awa o laye werey this time around.

[color=royalblue]You are always using the word "WE", and that sounds funny to me

Unless you are a party man, or you are benefiting from the system, there is no "WE", IMO

Nigeria's problem is similar. Don't ask what they want to do; just vote.

But then, carry on. I have always known Kogi to be a very underdeveloped place (no offence abeg), but i hope to see it change in my lifetime. [/color]

TrebleChamp:
In 2015 general election, PDP won 3 House of Rep seat and a number of State house of Assembly seat in Lagos. That has never happened prior to 2015, and it happened because of Jonathan factor. Majority of those who voted for Jonathan where Non indigenes and they voted PDP all through. The people who will vote for PO in next year Election will most likely vote LP all through, and they will be the real structure on ground. Me am voting PO for President and any candidates from any Party i believe will serve well at the National Level, then Sanwo-Olu for Governor and any candidates from any Party i believe will serve well at the State Level.

[color=royalblue]The Presidential elections and the Senate comes first

If Obi loses, those people who voted him on that Saturday may likely not come out for the next one.

As for Lagos, all the people that won through PDP, decamped to APC as soon as they got there (maybe almost all)

That is why I see this idea of voting out parties as a joke now. When i lose here, i join the other side[/color]

reccy:
Well, I'm not shying away from reality mr DissTroy. You're right about almost what you said but you're wrong by your last statement.

Pitobi getting 2% is my worry. Normally, he shouldn't be seen near political office for his poor tenure when he was governing Anambra. But this is Nigeria sha. If pitobi can do it, yeye bello can do it better. The dullard that had doctors on strike, the one that turned Anambra to almost the level of kogi state, the slowpoke that compete with yeye bello in term of developmental indices should not be expected to get 0.5% votes from my state.

Kogi has suffered enough and that's why we don't want to vote for Morons again both at the Federal and state level......

I agree that kogi is at the bottom of developmental chart of Nigerian state, and you expect us to forego a proven strategist, A man known to be a creator to a man competing with yahaya bello?

You can see mr DissTroy, we are saying the same thing. We want to get it right this time around by making sure we give pitobi 0.00005% of the votes!

[color=royalblue]When your state voted Buhari twice in 2015 and 2019, what did you get in return?

Chai [/color]

DissTroy:
Lokoja is arguably the worst capital in Nigeria. Poverty in Kogi is at an all-time high.
After the recent flooding, there's been barely any funding to help the Kogi victims.
Your IGR is poorer than an LGA in Rivers State.
Yahaya Bello has turned Kogi into a police state.
Opposition is nonexistent as they all fear for their lives and he brandishes guns to threaten them.
He's owing them salaries, gratuities and more.
Kogi is at the bottom of every developmental chart of Nigerian states.
Workers owed for years have no hope of being paid.

Peter Obi getting 5 or 15% votes in Kogi should be the least of your worries. But Nigerians don't know their priorities.

[color=royalblue]E say na white Lion

A state capital that is 3 hours to the FCT, yet no development rubs off on it. [/color]

Kaycee54321:
Indifference: B2
Passive Aggression: A1

[color=royalblue]Your opinion, which you are very much entitled to[/color]

Ellexy:
His plans are in his manifestó
But on a serious note, Nigerians wanted something new not named PDP and ignored the massive red flags on display back then like we're seeing in Baba Blu right now.

My point is, that we failed with Buhari doesn't mean we now throw away our rights to determine leaders who should lead us. Obi might not have all it takes according to you but what will happen when this APC led government continues ruling?

There's always the best among the rest, I hope you change your mind and vote.

[color=royalblue]If Nigeria's problems would go away by voting in a saint, then Obi has to be the man, because he's the lesser thief amongst all

But we need plans...Plans that are realistic.

I can boldly say i have listened to Obi more than most of you here. I had to log into YouTube with another email, because the algorithms was always suggesting Obi talks and Obi.

That guy looks different, but he is not saying anything different. There is no difference between what he is saying and what the others are saying....All talk, no plan.

I hope you vote him oh. Just don't be disappointed when you don't see a better Nigeria that you envisaged. It is right there before your eyes[/color]

[color=royalblue]When you ask Obidients for their MCM plans, they turn it to complaining

I can't even remember the last time i complained here. What am I complaining for ?

I should be changing government from APC to PDP to APC. Maybe that was how UK and France got it right.

When one politician loses, he moves to the next big party.

Silly ko, Similitude ni[/color]

Ellexy:
This is where you lie when you say Obi and even others like Tinubu don't have plans to fix the country. They do, you've just refused for whatever reason to maintain your posture.

Also the worst thing isn't planning and the plan didn't turn out right. The worst is having o plan or taking no action yet complaining when the actors decide for you. It's simply foolishness.

That's why i won't blame those that voted Buhari in 2015. That he turned out to be a calamity doesn't mean we should give up on trying to elect responsible leaders. Nough said.

[color=royalblue]Show me Buhari's plan in 2015, and I'll hold my peace

Show me how he said he would turn 1dollar to 1 naira.

Show me where he said his plans to pay 5000 monthly to the unemployed.

The same questions wey we no ask for 2015, we no ask am again for 2023[/color]

Donjazet2:
I've said it before, I've never seen this level of self-sabotage in my life..

They say that one does not go looking for rats when your house is burning..
This izzou made this statement below.



This izzuo's travails up there perfectly captures what a vast majority of Nigerians are also experiencing.
Imagine feeling the worst effects of bad governance and still thinking you have the luxury of not joining the struggle for a better Nigeria.

I mean just imagine in your mind that your house is in flames and you don't bother to save it because you're gullible to listen to those that have 3 houses already. That's just foolishness.

To hell with that defeatist mindset.

[color=royalblue]You have not had the courage to admit you were foolish for forcing Buhari on Nigerians

You didn't hear his plans. You didn't scrutinise his policies. All you saw was Peak milk and Milo,and you campaigned heavily for Buhari.

It wouldn't be an insult to call you a fooool for that, but i won't.

Now, the same YOU is promoting a man with an agenda that is unrealistic. Just Consumption to Production mandate, with no clear cut plan to see it out. When he flops, you will shift to another candidate and start your promotion profession

If anybody should have wisdom here, it is to avoid the choices you make. You are terrible at making choices.

I hope you keep me out of your mentions concerning politics. I will not vote Obi. [/color]

EmmanuelScott1:
Nigeria is too big to be fixed, it can't start immediately because those at the top still wish to be looting it dry, they don't care what the masses re passing through. I hate the government especially the judiciary because they're ones that suppose be helping in this corruption fight, a politician was elected to serve, we're the ones that put him there, why will he embezzle the funds given to him and when he was found guilty, why not the judge sentence him to life imprisonment or pass him no pitiful sentence (like 100 years jail term) at least it will serve as an example to others. You can't be giving em 10 years jail term and still offer him to pay 20 million or 30 million fine to escape the jail whereas he looted billions of naira.

If we start talking how to fix this country it won't reach their ears, they don't care what we say here .

I still support regional government tho, it will help pass where we are now.

[color=royalblue]Is any of the candidates promising a regional government?[/color]

chrisooblog:
Yes there are problems but acknowledge when progress no matter how little is being made.

[color=royalblue]We were talking about power, before you brought in airports and railway lines.
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Ellexy:
Not your headache but you're here with us everyday complaining about the state of the nation. Lol

[color=royalblue]So in order not to complain, i need to vote a man that has next-to-nothing plans to fix the country?

This is your own idea of fixing Nigeria, baa?

When you don't like the situation, you vote any other option to change it.

Odiegwu[/color]

chrisooblog:
Chief Buhari was worse than this when he campaigned I don't remember him saying whether or not he would build railways or airports but for better for worse he has despite his obvious glaring deficiencies sha delivered 3 new airport terminals, a few railway lines and a completed second niger bridge. Who knows the next guy may be able to fix the economy and security. Hope springs eternal.

[color=royalblue]Why not list out Nigeria's problems in comparison with 3 airports and few railway lines.

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Ellexy:
Jesus is coming back soon. Keep waiting.

[color=royalblue]Patiently, my brother.

You can go vote Obi. Not my headache[/color]

EmmanuelScott1:
It will be difficult to see a righteous politician, izu that perfect politician that you want, you can never see it in this world (after all politics is called a dirty game and this one even concern Nigeria, which you know nobody in Nigeria is a saint not even our pastors or imams. Obi tinubu and atiku have pros and cons, I choose obi because he has less cons among the three.

[color=royalblue]I don't know why you all are misunderstanding me

I have personally said it here that i am not bothered about anybody's past.

Let's talk about how you intend to fix Nigeria. [/color]