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Michael547:
So meaning every country engaged in killing ls in war today is justified even when millions of people have died including women and children?
So none of these countries in wars today is deliberately causing someone's death?😁😁😁
They are all mistakenly shooting each other abi😁😁😁

I don't know whether u have comprehension issues or u just left your brain somewhere.
Lemme repeat. Murder is a criminal act of taking someone's life. Its against any law in any country.
Killing is wars are different. It is deliberate and they protecting their sovereignty in the way they deemed fit. It may not be only soldiers that get killed but women and children are involved as collateral damage . Sometimes those women and children are used as human shields
No court would indict a soldier for killing another soldier in a war, so legally its justified.
Think before making some comments

Michael547:
So which country is committing killing and which country is committing murder in recent wars around the world?

All 2 verbs mean to cause the death of another person, but there is a difference in their meaning. To 'kill' means to make someone or something die. 'Murder' refers to the crime of deliberately causing someone's death.
The countries fighting wars are simply killing. Murder is criminal in any country worldwide.

Michael547:
Ok....it's fine that you've explained why countries go to war. Youve talked about self defense. Do you now see that not everyone agrees that killing is bad? And not everyone that kills has psychological problem. So there is no universal standard when it comes to killing. Some see killing as good and as a means to achieve what they want and some see killing as self defense. So again if you say killing is bad, it is your personal opinion.

Killing is different from murder, manslaughter etc. Murder/manslaughter is wrong in any country. Killing is not

MaxInDHouse:
Read the verse again then try to meditate on what the one talking is saying regarding the foreknowledge of what everyone will do!

Again what has this verse gotta do with omniscience of your god?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you can't expect any sane person to take you seriously if all what you do is thinking of how to accuse people who never offended you in person!

Please read the link I posted of a JW elder moles.ting a non-JW girl. After reading it, think of a very good lie to cover up. Thank you

Aemmyjah:
The Creator explains why we are flawed
What was made chose to act contrary to the instructions of the contractor and brought bad consequences in itself and progeny

You that said your brains has no designer
Such a Brain want be correct

Ok so the human body is no more a product of intelligence? Its flawed now cos of 'acting contrary' abi? Lol 😆
So why disturb us that the body is a product of intelligence?

MaxInDHouse:
How does that sound to you?

JWs in America, in Australia, in Europe, in Asia, in Africa are all child molesters but they have never molested a single child outside their group!

When u r ready to be honest, lemme know. Til then look for who is dishonest like u too

Michael547:
So at what point are you justifying the killings that is going on now in those wars?
So you mean that at a point of attack, bombing of women and children can be justified?

Bro, I don't justify any killing. I'm merely explaining why those countries decide to go to war and kill each other, including non-combatants like women and children.
By the way, if I pull a gun on u and u manage to see a plank u can break my head with, would you do it? Yes or no? And why?

Michael547:
Lol....so you mean every country involved in wars is in self defense. You mean Russia, Ukraine, isreal and Palestine are all in self defense mode and therefore they can kill people?

Did you read the part I talked about infringing on sovereignty or u have developed tunnel vision suddenly?
Palestine/Hamas engaged Israel cos of land dispute. Same as Ukraine vs Russia

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you're just holding to straws!
All FORMER MEMBERS of any organization will like to say something bad about the group they left so as to justify their leaving the group.

Let me see a single person outside Jehovah's Witnesses Organization whose child has been molested by a JW then you will have a case until then continue in your delusion!

I have sent u a link of one of your elders molesting a non-JW girl. U have pretended not to see it. Kwontinu

MaxInDHouse:
Please how old are you?

So the accused are never attracted to children outside their gathering yet you want to accuse all members for accusations raised by people who have left the group!


Does that make sense to you?

Did you even read my post? If they molest non JW children, they would be arrested cos no non-JW is gonna hide their crimes in the name of 'not exposing their dirty linen outside'

Aemmyjah:
Lol
Cars are likely to have faults and accidents too
Are they poorly designed?
What does design mean?

Yeah, cars are designed by humans, who are fallible. No car is 100% excellent and their makers always improve on their designs every year to bring better models. No car maker would say his product is 100%
But u theists insist humans are products of intelligent design citing how 'intelligent' the body physiology is, forgetting the body has errors. In fact every human physiology regularly produces errors.
How can a product of an omnipotent and omniscient being be so flawed?

Michael547:
Why are you isolating a case?

So do you mean that all governments that has ever engaged in wars in the past and in our time that has led to millions of human death, has psychological problems? Yes or no sir?

Hitler's case is different because that second world war was unprovoked.
In the case of these current governments theirs was provoked by acts perceived to infringe on their sovereignty as countries. Thus wars occur. These wars are products of escalations from civil rifes or border disputes. They may not be related to psychiatric
diseases.
So in those cases, killings would be termed self defense

Michael547:
What of governmental armies who engaged in wars that led to millions of death like in world War 1 and 2, do they have psychological issues too?
What of countries fighting wars today that leads to death of adults and children, do the government in those countries have psychological issues?

It may help your cause if you do some research. Adolf Hitler. Those soldiers took orders from him. And being soldiers they must obey. There were also people in his cabinet who questioned him but he murdered them

Hitler has often been associated with mental disorders such as bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and psychopathy, both during his lifetime and after his death. Psychiatrists and psychoanalysts who have diagnosed Hitler as having mental disturbance include well-known figures such as Walter C. Langer and Eric

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathography_of_Adolf_Hitler#:~:text=Hitler%20has%20often%20been%20associated,Langer%20and%20Erich%20Fromm.

Michael547:
Oga who has the right to determine to all humans what is good and what is bad?
Are you saying that if you don't agree with a governmental law and you break the law, it then means that you have a psychological problem?
Do you mean all terrorists that are against governmental laws have psychological problems?
You should be thinking more than this na.

So if you don't agree with Tinubu, it means that you are not sane?

Terrorists and psychopaths have psychiatric issues. Check out delusions of grandeur/megalomaniac tendencies.
Disagreeing with Tinubu doesn't make one commit crime. I don't vote for any politician and have never voted. I don't care or agree with Tinubu's decisions/laws especially concerning fiscal policies and crypto but I haven't gone about stealing peoples money, or killing folks.

Aemmyjah:
You're poorly designed. Yes or No?

Dvmmy I have answered this question twice but for the records I'm gonna answer it again.
YES, I AM POORLY DESIGNED
Do you want it in your native language so it can sink into your JW sex addled brain?
Why do you think humans have chronic back pain, hemorrhoids, autoimmune diseases, cancers. Even babies have cancers.

Aemmyjah:
Ur delusional
Lemme ask you
Did God create women knowing that she would mislead Adam to disobey
Did God make them beautiful so that angels would be seduced by them
Did God make angels knowing that millions of years later, one of them will rebel when he creates mankind
You reason backwards

Coming from a doctor who says humans are poorly designed

Lol. I have shown u that all knowing is the same as omniscient and now u have started another idiotic talk. All these questions are irrelevant cos the god in question doesn't exist.
I am yet to see any facts from u debunking my evidence of poor human anatomy

MaxInDHouse:
FORMER you say again!

Are you this dumb?

Why not someone who has nothing to do with JWs but whose child has been molested by JWs?

Your members target your own children because your elders protect them.
So u think all those cases against them are lies? What about the ones that confessed? Oya lie another lie

MaxInDHouse:
He's looking for cheap blackmail against God's people, at least there should have been one person who is not a JW whose child must have been molested for once nah?
If all the accusers are FORMER MEMBERS that should tell any sane individual that something is wrong somewhere!

Your members target fellow JW children because they know your elders don't report the crime. So they go on abusing children for years til they are caught.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.westernmassnews.com/2023/09/01/jehovah-witness-elder-sentenced-jail-child-sexual-abuse-case/%3foutputType=amp
This man in this link made a mistake and molested a non-JW girl. Oya lie another lie

Aemmyjah:
Don't mind Jaephoenix
He's delusional
A fake doctor
He said labor in women is easy
He said the human body is poorly designed
He said his ancestor is an ape
He quoted fake news that one of us went around killing people

Apart from being dumb, u have also resorted to stupid and daft.
Whether u believe I'm a physician or not is irrelevant. It won't take away my licenses
Humans have been laboring and delivering babies on their own, even at home. Only exceptional cases need intervention.
And yes, human body is poorly designed. I gave you examples of those poor designs but being an idiotic dvmmy u couldn’t counter any of those points, but still continued parroting nonsense about intelligent human design.
I also told you humans descended from apes. We still have tails as evidence. Instead of countering it, ur dummy theists run away.
And finally, I have given u links to confessions of JWs who are convicted killers and molesters. I wonder what other damning evidence u want

Aemmyjah:
Define omniscient

I have gone to great pains to take the screenshot
I now understand why those JW goons want to keep u guys uneducated. Its so none of u dollars can challenge their fuckery

MaxInDHouse:
See your life?

I say show me where a single none member accused a JW of child molestation so everyone can know that those Ex-jws aren't lying.
At least those molesters can't be attracted to only JW kids nah?

Did you read the part where it quoted a former JW elder?
Please if u have reading disability, attend to it before interfacing me

Michael547:
People break laws because they don't agree with those laws and ethics even when they are cultural or governmental laws and ethics. That is why there is never a universally accepted moral code by all humans on earth. If you think doing something is bad, it is your personal opinion. If you try and push your personal opinion on people, Then you are beginning to act like a God.

People break laws due to many reasons. Some think they can get away with the crimes.
Some may not agree however those ones may have psychological problems. Example are psychopaths who kill people for fun. They don't agree with the law. But in all these, the laws have been laid down sane folks and even though those psychos don't agree, those laws can't be changed because of them

MaxInDHouse:
Show where a none JW accused a member of the group.
If you're honest with yourself how can members who have left the organization say something and you're holding up to that as truth?
Are these child molesters not attracted to any other child outside the group?

Critics say that Jehovah’s Witnesses elders have treated child sexual abuse as a sin rather than a crime, documenting complaints in internal files but not reporting them to authorities. And they say the church often required a second witness to substantiate a complaint, a standard that can be impossible to meet when perpetrators often isolate their victims.
Martin Haugh of York Haven, Pa., a former elder who left the church in 2016 and now advocates for survivors of abuse in the church, applauded investigators.

“I hope elders are arrested who knew about child abuse and covered it up and then it happened again,” said Haugh, who testified to the grand jury about the church’s structure and about his own daughter’s abuse within a Jehovah’s Witnesses congregation.

https://apnews.com/article/jehovahs-witness-child-sexual-abuse-investigation-pennsylvania-924fcfcc119eb41fad07d7a217373f2d


I have many more. But lemme start with this. When u digest it I drop more
You guys are a bunch of criminals

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not a dummy how can a group with members throughout the earth be accused by their former members yet not one single long as no single person that's not a member came out to say his or her child was molested by the members of this group you can hold on to your lies!

If I show you several news about JWs that have been convicted of molesting their fellow JW children(and even their own), you will change mouth and tell me they are all lies
I know you. You're very dishonest

Aemmyjah:
God has the ultimate power
He can foresee and foretell
He also has freewill

We don't see his demonstrating his powers all the time
He equally does not use his ability to foresee things
Everything he does, he does so when he wants to

So in other words, he's omniscient but decided not to use his power in the one most important decision: the future of mankind that he created?
So Yahweh said "I know everything but Bleep Adam and his future, ion care if he's gonna eat this fruit or not, so I'm gonna go ahead and create the tree and keep it near him"
Nice one

MaxInDHouse:
You can pick any copy of the Bible to read this perhaps it will help you answer the question!

Then he said: “Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me. Genesis 22:12

What has this verse got to do with the question? Did you woke up sans your frontal lobe?

MaxInDHouse:
He thought when people say something is bad that means they're fully convinced and they're not going to do the same thing even though it's the only way out when they find themselves in tight situations.
So when people sit down together studying God's word discussing how to apply it and help one another in seeing reasons why its inspired by God for the good of all they want to discard such activity yet he feels everyone have agreed on codes of conduct.
Ọmọ atheists use to amaze me walahi talahi.
If people don't sit together discussing on the benefits of God's word how will it sink down their hearts as the right thing to do?

And after discussing 'god's word', they end the day groping children's gen.itals. Children's day is around the corner. Enough kids to work on for ur folks

Truuth:
You don't read, and don't make research.

I read and research. Those stories are not in academic researches. You can't just pull up mythical stories and expect me to swallow it

MaxInDHouse:
They want to boycott the Bible yet they want to establish morals, abeg where is the document that people agreed on globally that they're willing to abide by the code?

I won't have any discussion with someone whose organization allows ped.ophilia and sexual debauchery. Thank you

Michael547:
If lying and murder is not embraced by people in the the world, why is it a daily occurrence all over the world?

Good question.
The answer is human nature. We are destructive and irrational. So laws and ethics are supposed to keep us in check. Unfortunately this fails sometimes. So people break those laws despite the punishments attached to them

Michael547:
So you see yourself? You are back to square one.
When you said killing a human is bad and I told you it was your personal opinion, you were arguing up and down.
Can you now name the few moral code present in the world today that is agreed by all humans on earth?

Murder, lying is universally unacceptable.
Please name which culture these values are embraced