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This finally confirms christians are on the top of the world religion retard club. Celebrating and backing Israel which calls Jesus Christ a bastard, are openly gay, have christian minorites(1-2%) while hating Palestine which has a 30% Christian populations
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JobZoneNews:
Action Power Devotional for Today: I was listening to one famous Nigerian (name withheld) who believe there is no God and that all things just came into existence on their own.

During the interview, this man talked about his marriage, his family, his companies and the many awards he has received over the years.

Then I laughed. I hope someone can tell him that if his marriage, family, companies and awards did not just come into existence on their own but were deliberately created by himself and his wife and the owners of the awards, then the earth and himself must surely have a Creator.

The Bible says Hebrews 3:4
[4]For every house is built by someone, but He who built all things is God.

Yes, every existing house was built by someone. They did not just come into existence on their own.

God almighty is the Creator of all things.

Action Power for Today: Don't listen to confused people who say there's no God and who say everything just came into existence on their own.

It's s lie from the pit of hell. God exists and He is the Creator of all things.

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So who created God?

Michael547:
Who is this ancient man that determined what will be universal good and bad?

The Neantherthals for example. Homo Hominids, Homo Erectus etc. U want their names, and phone numbers too

Michael547:
Baba this is your personal opinion.....
there is nothing like a universal bad. Something is bad to me does not mean it is bad to you.

Well its not just my personal opinion. Its how the ancient man determined morals used by them in their society

Michael547:
Shooting me will not be nice to me.....but it may be nice to you.

The point is this: don't do what is bad to another person. In this scenario, u were hurt/dead and its bad for u. Therefore it is bad universally, whether for me or another person.
This is the origin of morals

paxonel:
Yes!

Because, the bible mentioned the roles of these religions a long time ago, and that is what they are currently doing.

Revelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

So both the bible and the books of other religions testify to the existence of a supreme God.

But apart from that, there is something fascinating in the bible which you must see, if you really have the interest to do so.

But if you don't have the interest, no problem.
Because i must also respect your position as an atheist just as i do to adherents of every other religions that i interact with

1. Where did the bible mention the roles of those other religions?
2. Sorry, the Hindus, Muslims, Christians etc don't worship the same god. Please don't tell Muslim or Christian extremists this, u might lose your head. They are different gods. U decided to make name your own god with a capital G. Doesn't make it unique for others
3. So what is unique about a contradictory, lie-infested book like the bible?
4. If u deem a book valid cos the same book as so, then u r a funny man

Michael547:
Who determined that whatever causes harm to a person is bad and wrong?

Don't you think that is your personal idea?

If I pull out a gun and shoot you, would that be nice to u? Would you ask to be shot again? Yes or no?

Michael547:
Who has the right to determine that murder is bad?

Its simple. Whatever causes harm to a person is obviously bad and wrong. If lying causes harm to someone, then its obviously bad. Same as covetousness. Also if I don't feel good about an action (like murder) then its bad. You don't need a god or deity to give laws about them. Besides those gods/deities have been known to support evil, so we cannot depend on them for our morality

Michael547:
Ok....so you may be wrong to call someone's action of killing other humans as 'bad'?
Do you agree?

Murder is bad. So I'm not wrong

Michael547:
Ok....but do you agree that humans have different opinions on what is good and evil and that there is no one standard?

Yup. Its called morality. And its relative, and varies with humans from time and time, or regions

Michael547:
So how did we come up with these standards?

The way they relate to humans. Evil is harmful while good is not, and helps mankind

Michael547:
What do you understand to be good and evil?

Good can mean the act of doing good deeds. It can also mean luggages.
Evil can mean being hateful, or dangerous

paxonel:
Evidences are boldly written in the bible.
If you had interest to search for it may be you would have been convinced by now.
But how will you start searching a book you don't believe in the first place?

If u call the Bible stories as evidences, would you call the stories in the Quran, Vedas and other holy books evidence? Yes or no? And give reasons

Michael547:
Do you agree that good and evil exists?

Can you be more explicit of 'good' and 'evil'? Those are ambiguous terms and need more explanations

Michael547:
Meaning you are an atheist right?

Yup

Michael547:
Who created Lucifer?

And how do humans determine the standard of what is good and evil?

U won't have answers for these questions from these guys. I have asked them, and I get blanks. So don't bother

Michael547:
Ok oo😁😁😁...sha go and look for the answer.

What u should understand about Christians is their brains work like robots. They have a preconceived answer to questions. And those answers are engrained in their brains like bots.Their brains cannot process that questions, and this question is one of those questions their robotic brains don't have answers to. So any question that they don't have answers to, they walk around it or ignore it. And if you ask these questions a million times, u would get a robotic reply which is completely off point.
This is how a theist brain works

Ken4Christ:
Which school did you attend? You don't have to be a lawyer to know that the evidences of two or more people are admissible in a court of competent jurisdiction.

The Bible contains evidences of eye witnesses. And their witnesses agree. And no one has come up with a contrary evidence on through these years except that of Quran which evidence has no basis.

1. What has my school got to do with this?
Anyway, the problem with the bible is that the eye witnesses were by unknown folks. Nobody knows anyone called Mark, Luke, John, Matthew etc. Also those stories were written centuries after they supposedly happened. In fact your own Bible scholars believe those names were pseudonyms. Basically John Does.
So yes, the tesitmonies of unknown folks won't stand up in court
2. The stories in the Bible has been debunked. I have raised threads about them. Example Egypt never held Israel as slaves, there was no time the sun stood still, no time people mass resurrected etc. None of these happened in history.
3. And what do you mean by the evidence of the Quran 'has no basis'?

Jokerman:
God knows everything.

However sometimes we humans can sway his decisions or judgement... That's the level of creation we are.

Are you even listening to what you are saying?
An omniscient god being swayed by humans?
Are you religious folks missing some stuff?

Jokerman:
Probably... But he hoped they'd obey him instead of listening to the devil

Is he all knowing?

immortalcrown:
God told them that they would die any day they eat from the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. God gave them freedom and they made their choice. It is not a case of God not knowing that they could stray.

Is Yahweh all knowing?

StillDtruth:
All movies and fabrications! No evidence.

Lol. U r really a work of art. Anyway I have told you to seek psychiatric review. It would help you

StillDtruth:
Who is scaring you, when clearly you have more than enough of it? You are not worth it.

Ok

paxonel:
you can see that it is not all Christians that do this.
Only some ignorant folks do this

Yet, the same bible, the same religion.

A knowledgeable Christian will defined his religion anyday, anytime without resorting to attacks.

Attacks are signs of weakness, ignorance, lacking what to say when questions arrives

Well, u r a rare kind of Christian. At least u try to debate a bit and not resort to insults or attacks unlike mor.ons like Dtruthspeaker etc

[quote author=Ken4Christ post=130032300][/quote]There was nothing to debunk about the resurrection . Its just like debunking the existence of leprechauns or unicorns. U have to bring evidence they existed first. He who alleges must provide evidence. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You claimed a man resurrected, then show us evidence. Don't tell me I have to debunk your claim of resurrection when u haven't even provided evidence he resurrected.
I'm sorry, modern historians use BCE and not AD. BCE means Before the Common Era. AD was coined because the previous historians were christians and wanted a landmark(no matter how nebulous it was) to use.

paxonel:
it is personal conviction and should not be done in compulsion.
And moreover, having faith is simple when you were brought up with the faith from childhood.
For instance, if you were brought up as a child in a Christian home there is every assurance that you will end up being a Christian.
Same with other religions
it's simple as that
No doubt, they all have faith.
They are all Christians.
But Christians with variation of understanding one book.

The truth is, the book itself does not depend on anyone.
It came with it own teachings which everyone have to follow.
you are not getting it
Heaven or Faith, the are the same thing.

That's why i brought out that scripture Matthew 4:17 to know whether you understand.

Heaven, Faith, The kingdom, whatever you want to call it, they are all the same thing.

And i told you that it does not require full understanding of the bible to have faith.
Therefore it does not require full understanding of the bible to make heaven.
It doesn't matter what denomination you belong, whether they teach ignorantly or not, so long you are in the faith you are already in heaven.
But if you are not in the faith you are doomed
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John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

You still manage to shoot yourself in the foot time after time.
So basically what u r saying is anyone born as a Muslim remains Muslim. U stick with the faith u r raised with since you don't need evidence to believe anything. Blind faith is enough.
So its okay to continue in whatever religion my parents give me. So if u believe that diction, then u don't believe in people converting from one religion to another, since they have to keep up the faith they were raised in.
By the way I was raised in a Christian home. Pentecostal to be precise. Became a good Christian. Grew up and realized religion is all about faith. No evidence. None at all. And that is the problem. With faith u can believe anything. And I mean anything. Christians believe they can heal the sick and raise the dead. Muslims believe they got virgins lined up in the afterlife after they blow themselves into oblivion. All with no shred of evidence. That's where my deconversion started. I deal in evidence now, unfortunately

StillDtruth:
Only in the eyes and minds of devils like you, who ofcourse know that they are worthy of hell, so it is expected that you can never approve of it.

<yawn>
Your scare antics get boring everyday. Try another thing… like engaging the topic at hand

StillDtruth:
Even.you must know that this is stupid!

Well, I don't. Try again dumbo!

StillDtruth:
No evidence of dinosours yet here you are believing in them

There are evidence that can give insight into dino daily lives, including preserved gut contents, eggs, nests, footprints, skin impressions and even dinosaur poo. We can even view their fossils all over the world. I have attached their pictures. Unless of course you think we conjured those bones, footprints etc from thin air.
Like I have told you repeatedly, DTruthSpeaker, stay away from scientific discourses. Your brain is way too basic and retarded to engage in it

paxonel:
Having faith does not depend on whether you fully understand the book or not
There is nothing like negligence there.
The book is complex to understand does not stop Faith.
The most important thing is to have faith irrespective of whether you understand it or not.
It is not everyone that is having challenge to understand it.

The way you understand any book you read, you can understand the bible. Only that it requires one to follow the stories precept by precept with comprehension accuracy as if you are studying to write an examination

So you are saying one should have faith whether one understands the Bible or not, init?
Are you aware there are thousands of denominations spawning from different (mis)interpretations of the Bible, ranging from Catholism, to Jehovah Witness and Cherubim/Seraphim etc etc. Each strongly believe their own interpretation is legit while the other is wrong, and those would subsequently burn in hell. Yet they all claim to be Christians. And guess what, they all have faith
So obviously having faith isn't enough. You'll have to belong to the 'right' denomination to be deemed eligible for heaven.
Therein lies the flaw

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paxonel:
Having faith does not depend on whether you fully understand the book or not
There is nothing like negligence there.
The book is complex to understand does not stop Faith.
The most important thing is to have faith irrespective of whether you understand it or not.
It is not everyone that is having challenge to understand it.

The way you understand any book you read, you can understand the bible. Only that it requires one to follow the stories precept by precept with comprehension accuracy as if you are studying to write an examination

Ken4Christ:
The person you are quoting is dead and gone and most likely in hell. How can you compare it with the living Jesus whose tomb is empty and confirmed by archaeologists.

Lol. Which archeologists confirmed Jesus resurrected?
Do you also get history and archeology lessons from your pastor? Lol 😆