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Dtruthspeaker:
The fact that people, everywhere, of thousands and thousands of years old, who saw how the world was in what we would call the beginning where worshiping a deity, is proof that there is a Deity.

For all people everywhere can not be brainwashed and deceived at the same time and in fact mass brainwashing only became possible with the advent of the television and radio.

1. Not everyone has a god
2. Worship of deities stemmed from man's ignorance about his surroundings. Like floods, rains, fertility. The ancients attributed gods to such phenomena.
So such worship is borne out of ignorance not the existence of such deities

Martinez39s:
Okay.

Wait o. Are you OtemAtum?

Na. That's another fruitcake. This here fruitie, aka MadMax, is on a whole new fruity level all by himself

MaxInDHouse:
Guy, they all existed but they're not fit to last because they're all fallen angels, they have transformed into something else deceiving their worshipers that they're now Jesus that's why you're seeing thousands of different religions all claiming worshipers of Jesus with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines!

Once in a while, read through your posts and check if they make sense.
How does multiple denominations depict the deity of Jesus?
And are you even aware those guys have been proven to be myths and nothing else(by history), yet to say they exist, including your favorite sky daddy

LordReed:
LoLz! This is the thought stopping hard lock that has been bred into you that's why you give up exploring any further. You are not alone, I had the same thought stopping process for years until I decided to look behind the curtain.

… lo and behold, it was all a scam

MaxInDHouse:
So all the Gods worshiped in ancient times like Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and England are nonexistent yet people throughout history have been worshiping all these Gods shey?
Ọmọ you sabi pass sabinus!

Man is an inquisitive animal, and attributes any unknown phenomena to supreme beings, thus they worship these gods. But as science explains those phenomena, reliance on religion dwindles. And that explains why religion is slowly fading away

adeoyekay:
Kobojunkie your attention is needed here

Lol. Junkie's head is twisted and would turn this thread into a gibberish soup

Originalsly:
Really?... never heard of chronic renal failure because of herbs ... but not saying it doesn't happen because I never heard of it. Do you know or heard of anyone that this happened to? I'm advising herbs because I know people who use such and it works ... without complaining of any side effect. No doubt... one has to be careful about herbs... which are usually good in treating more than one condition. It may be very effective for diabetes but at the same time also effective in reducing high blood pressure. What if the user suffers from low blood pressure?
There is a risk factor involved.... but pharmaceuticals?.... the risk is higher.

Just one of many easily available herbs.

Obviously you are not a medical personnel, and haven't researched on those herbs. Are you aware of the alkaloids in those herbs? Are you aware there are no specific dosing based on body weight, sex, co-morbidites etc. They always tell you to take a cup of the juice etc. Don't you know those alkaloids can destroy your kidneys faster than you blink? If you don't know about herbs, please ask. Herbs are drugs. And any drugs taken without regulations or prescriptions are deadly.
Also from your screenshot I can see you pulled up some benefits of these leaves. Did it occur to you the amount of leaves to acts as sustained antihypertensives won't be enough? If you keep on taking them, they would only temporarily or slightly bring down the blood pressure or sugar. The effects won't be significant

Rutherford2019:
It's stand alone because it happens in pregnancy
It's type2 2 because there's enough insulin in her body

How can it be stand-alone and still be type 2?
Is chronic pancreatitis induced diabetes a stand-alone or a subset of type 1 or 2?

Dtruthspeaker:
That is why you are blind for people have seeing unseen things like a person dodging policemen (eg igbo smokers) is proof that such person is an unseen gunman (criminal). It's as simple as this but we understand, blind atheists never see. 😆

Lol. This guy and kobojunkie need anti-psychotics. See logic. LMAO

Aemmyjah:
You don't have sense walahi
If someone says that Nigerian doctors harvest organs and you say it's not all, that shows you condone it too

You are the senseless person here. If I say not all doctors are organ harvesters, how am I condoning it? Are you always this daft?

Aemmyjah:
Which one is a lie

That the group practice such act

OR

Those who are guilty of such act are removed?

You said those stories about the mol@station were lies. Don't start dodging

Dtruthspeaker:
Servant, you do not know evidence even after it has roadkilled you.

So, since you claim to be a doctor, therefore reading should not be hard for you. So try reading about what evidence is and how they work. And when you finish, come and show me that you now know what evidence is. Then we can talk else shut up. It's as simple as that

Oga, tender evidence of Afterlife or shut it! Simple

Dtruthspeaker:
This thread proves you are a Liar for we gave evidence then you shifted post.

https://www.nairaland.com/7891795/does-god-exist/34#126972560

Bro, which evidence did you provide?
Have you started smoking loud again?

(1) The bones are the only part of the human body that is made up wholly of living cells, and that contains the stem cells which gives rise to blood cells, skin cells, and all the other cells of the body.
(2) The ribs are the only bones that regrows after being removed.

In view of the above, it is in complete harmony with proved science that Jehovah made Eve from Adam's ribs—even surgeons use the ribs in reconstructive surgeries, for instance. Moreover, surgeons anesthesize their patients before operating on them just as God put Adam into a deep sleep before using his ribs in a “constructive surgery” of sorts. He didn't need to infuse the breath of life into Eve since she was made out of an already living tissue, one that had everything needed to produce all the cells in a living human.

It is not scientifically unsound at all. The effects of eating the fruit of that tree was very real. An immediate change was sensed by them, but was really an outward manifestation of a deeper change that had occurred in them both, just like a deep-seated illness has its symptoms.
Also, their sin became like a genetic defect passed down their generations, thus affecting all humans on a fundamental level.


I really do not know why I am replying to you at all. I reprove myself here because I have other more important things to do I believe.

Maynman:
jaephoenix
Budaatum
Lordreed

I don't know your profession, but for you to take your bath, brush your teeth, buy data, log into Nairaland and spew such monumental trash smacks of serious self-confidence. I can only commend you, bro.
I had to copy your post and paste it on my own post, so I can remember all the bullshit.
1. You said
bones are the only part of the human body that is made up wholly of living cells, and that contains the stem cells which gives rise to blood cells, skin cells, and all the other cells of the body
..and its a big fat lie. Are you saying other organs contain dead cells? By the way, there are other tissues apart from bones that give rise to blood cells, skin cells etc. They exist in bone marrow, fat tissue, dental pulp, heart tissue, and many other places. They are known as pluripotent tissues.

2. You said
The ribs are the only bones that regrows after being removed
Bro, bones also have the power to regrow. When someone has a fracture, what do you think the bones do? Of course they regrow and one broken end joins the other.

3. You said
surgeons use the ribs in reconstructive surgeries
Surgeons can use other bones, though the rib is most desirable cos one can survive without a rib and it has good regenerative powers. There are other organs one can survive without apart from a rib

4. Please what sin did they commit?
Who gave Satan his omnipotent, omniscient etc powers? Yahweh!
Who created Eden and the tree of knowledge and planted it right in the middle of the garden(not even at the outskirts where it would be out of sight of Adam and Eve) and made it have luscious fruits? Yahweh!
Who is omniscient and knows Adam and Eve would eat the forbidden fruit but still went ahead to plant the fruit right in the garden? Yahweh!
Do you now understand why this all loving god wanted Adam fvcked from the get-go? And Yahweh actually wanted Adam to eat the damned fruit.

These theist-fueled ignorant posts make me to say education and science is lost to theists

(1) The bones are the only part of the human body that is made up wholly of living cells, and that contains the stem cells which gives rise to blood cells, skin cells, and all the other cells of the body.
(2) The ribs are the only bones that regrows after being removed.

In view of the above, it is in complete harmony with proved science that Jehovah made Eve from Adam's ribs—even surgeons use the ribs in reconstructive surgeries, for instance. Moreover, surgeons anesthesize their patients before operating on them just as God put Adam into a deep sleep before using his ribs in a “constructive surgery” of sorts. He didn't need to infuse the breath of life into Eve since she was made out of an already living tissue, one that had everything needed to produce all the cells in a living human.

It is not scientifically unsound at all. The effects of eating the fruit of that tree was very real. An immediate change was sensed by them, but was really an outward manifestation of a deeper change that had occurred in them both, just like a deep-seated illness has its symptoms.
Also, their sin became like a genetic defect passed down their generations, thus affecting all humans on a fundamental level.


I really do not know why I am replying to you at all. I reprove myself here because I have other more important things to do I believe.

Maynman:
jaephoenix
Budaatum
Lordreed

I don't know your profession, but for you to take your bath, brush your teeth, buy data, log into Nairaland and spew such monumental trash smacks of serious self-confidence. I can only commend you, bro.
I had to copy your post and paste it on my own post, so I can remember all the bullshit.
1. You said
bones are the only part of the human body that is made up wholly of living cells, and that contains the stem cells which gives rise to blood cells, skin cells, and all the other cells of the body
..and its a big fat lie. Are you saying other organs contain dead cells? By the way, there are other tissues apart from bones that give rise to blood cells, skin cells etc. They exist in bone marrow, fat tissue, dental pulp, heart tissue, and many other places. They are known as pluripotent tissues.

2. You said
The ribs are the only bones that regrows after being removed
Bro, bones also have the power to regrow. When someone has a fracture, what do you think the bones do? Of course they regrow and one broken end joins the other.

3. You said
surgeons use the ribs in reconstructive surgeries
Surgeons can use other bones, though the rib is most desirable cos one can survive without a rib and it has good regenerative powers. There are other organs one can survive without apart from a rib

4. Please what sin did they commit?
Who gave Satan his omnipotent, omniscient etc powers? Yahweh!
Who created Eden and the tree of knowledge and planted it right in the middle of the garden(not even at the outskirts where it would be out of sight of Adam and Eve) and made it have luscious fruits? Yahweh!
Who is omniscient and knows Adam and Eve would eat the forbidden fruit but still went ahead to plant the fruit right in the garden? Yahweh!
Do you now understand why this all loving god wanted Adam fvcked from the get-go? And Yahweh actually wanted Adam to eat the damned fruit

Originalsly:
They told you it's too late? Bro .... read up on foods to avoid ... don't rely on pharmaceuticals .... ask the elders.... they know the different leaves and herbs that do a better job than pills. Health section here named a few under different threads. Soda lovers .... corn flake and cereal lovers .... chill.

Be careful about those 'herbal cures'. You may end up with something worse, like chronic renal failure. Don't say you weren't warned

Rutherford2019:
It's type 2 that happens during pregnancy
Insulin production by the pancreas is normal but pregnancy makes the woman's body to be less sensitive to the available insulin
In type 1 there's no insulin production by the pancreas

Good. That was exactly what I was pointing out to OP. I told him GDM is a subset of type 2, but he kept on insisting. And you jumped in and started backing him.
Go back to our arguments

aswani:
You should have tried to find out about kobojunkie before engaging her in discussion.

I am not saying anyone has mental wellbeing issues but there are posters on this platform whose personal issues have definitely overwhelmed them and it shows.

I know about junkie and her struggles, but I thought she said she has been on therapy. I don't usually read her posts but recently I started reading them, but I have realized the therapy didn’t work. Or she has relapsed. Either way, aint reading her posts again or engaging her

MaxInDHouse:
You atheists are really funny when you think you've gotten something to make jest of believers you come on social media to ask stupid questions.
This is what you said after asking your stupid question about the Bible God:



But when believers begin to play on your brain you will result to provocation.


Well the answer to your stupid question is simple:

"Did God lie?"

"NO He didn't.
It's impossible for God to lie! Hebrews 6:18

In the end, you still didn't answer the question, idiota

cornelboy:
You be mumu aswear. In the very screenshot you posted, didn't you see that those people were disfellowshipped?

Whether they were disfellowshipped or not, is irrelevant here. Your folks here said the news of the mol@stations are lies. I guess you have been seeing Aemmyjah saying so here but youre blind to his lies. Idiota

Dtruthspeaker:
Since you do not know evidence eg a cutlass, how can you know when you have been given evidence? Not to talk of the laws on evidence.

Since you claim to be a doctor therefore reading should not be hard for you. So try reading about what evidence is and how they work. And when you finish, come and show me that you now know what evidence is.

Oga, tender evidence of Afterlife or shut it! Simple

MaxInDHouse:
Child molesters are everywhere and there is no group of people where you won't them that is what makes you an insane when you're saying all members of an organization are child molesters simply because few members do it the fact that you have never witnessed any yourself shows that such is rare!

But you guys say all the news of mol@station are lies, no be so?

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheist!
So if someone say "there are thieves in your family" that makes all members of your family thieves shey?

But u guys say there are no mol@sters. Isn't that lying?

Aemmyjah:
Don't reason like a retard
There is a huge difference between accusing a group of something and acknowledging that there are some reports of it
If I say that the men in your family are wife beaters. That's an active accusations and it shows that the practice is not just common knowledge but condoned. You will pretend as if our publications do not frown against it, calling it a grave sin . Due to animosity against JWs and people who want to spew lies, they say this against us.
You say we molest children. I have not seen any child molester before or heard any around me. You too should do same or prove to be as stupid as the rest. If jaephoenix can drop a false report that a JW killed 13 people, only a mad man on this forum will believe a mad man like you. It is just like saying that Nigerian doctors are organ harvesters. That is very misleading. There may be reports of fake doctors harvesting organs but what did the Medical Association say about it or do? Do they condone it? People who really want to malign the medical profession may publish lies and half-truths but a fair-minded person knows how to get fact. You are just like someone saying that Nigerian doctors are organ harvesters. That will make people conclude that it is well known, practiced and even accepted.
Which religion, culture, where have people not succumbed to such wicked practice of child abuse. A national daily in USA may publish a story so it could sell fast and say JW abused a child. It ia even recently I discovered that child abuse could involve emotional or physical beating of the child. Instead of investigating, they conclude it is sexual abuse. Imagine if you were in a law court and you were to defend your claims, them for lock you for kirikiri for nonsense.

JWs have beaten your intelligence to the dust and you have resorted to attacks and lies. Are atheists children more responsible than our children? Are they more morally upright than our children?

Lol. Stop committing fallacy of appeal to emotions.
Lol
If you tell me Nigerian doctors harvest organs, I would tell you its not all, and I would tell you I speak for myself and that I don't harvest organs. Of course NMA and MDCN would castigate the practice, does it mean there are no docs harvesting organs? No. Even the news about docs harvesting organs are false(like the one they said harvested someone's intestines). Like I say, I speak for myself alone. I don't know what other doctors are doing or planning to do. If they get caught, they spend the time. But I would not come out and say doctors don't harvest organs.
Also you keep on speaking from both sides of your mouth. One moment you're saying all the stories are lies, the next you say your organization castigate your members. So how can they castigate their members when they are innocent? Please choose one lie abeg

Dtruthspeaker:
The convo was over when you could not even see nor conprehend simple everyday evidence of unseen things.

Yet you can see those unseen things. Lol 😆
Dey play

Aemmyjah:
Sick quack doctor
His former religious leaders lied to him
His professors lied to him
His gyne lied to him
Imagine a gyne saying that labor is an easy process. I asked him to confirm from his wife or sister or mother. Later he mentioned goats. Do gyne operates on goats?
He looks for lies like camel looks for water
He even lies to himself
Atheists lie to themselves

Ok

Rutherford2019:
Yes
In GDM there's enough insulin but the woman's body does not respond to it for utilization of glucose..
Infact pregnancy in itself is diabetogenic state with hyperinsulinaemia. Reasons being that the woman's body try not to utilize glucose so as to provide for her fetus.
Many women develop T2DM later in life as you rightly said while in some they will remain diabetic even after their pregnancy

You simply echoed what I stated without answering my question. Lemme repeat
Is GDM a type 1 or type 2 variation? Or is it stand-alone like OP said?

Dtruthspeaker:
Surely, you are a mad doctor for clearly not all injuries are head injuries e.g. like a person with gsw in the abdomen or legs as commonly shown in movies.

And I have been emphasizing "in the movies" yet you are not able to grasp it.

Surely, you are doctor on drugs else you would have known that not all injuries are head injuries.

Did you read in my previous posts where I stated that if its not a head injury, the patient can sleep?
This excerpt is from my old post
If you mean severely wounded, it depends on the wound or injury. During triage, we prioritize a head injury over respiratory, then the later over an abdominal injury, although bleeding big vessels can change the priority. For example, an exsanguinating femoral artery takes precedence over a head injury.
So to your question, if a head injured patient wants to sleep, I would object. Why? So as to ascertain the extent of the head injury. If its an intracerebral
I won't tell a chest injured guy not to sleep. That is if any head injury has been ruled out.
Despite claiming to be a lawyer, you have severe handicap in English comprehension which has been evidenced time and again.
Do you practice with Yoruba?

Dtruthspeaker:
Servant, if you cannot understand the simple thing everyone sees everyday of seeing people dodging policemen (eg igbo smokers) is proof that such person is a criminal, then you are not a human being at all and cannot be taught.

Ok. Since you cannot bring any evidence. I declare this convo over. Have a nice day

MaxInDHouse:
He is living on double standard!

Just imagine:

JWs are molesters ~ jaephoenix

Have you caught any in the act? ~ fellow

NO! But it's all over the News ~ jaephoenix


Do you believe there is God? ~ fellow

NO! I will never believe ~ jaephoenix

Why don't you believe in God? ~ fellow

Because i can't see any ~ jaephoenix

Fellow.

If he can't believe in God because he can't see any then why believe in News that he never saw?

Lol. Your organization itself stated so, liar. Do you wanna dispute that? I have asked you twice, but you keep on dodging. Let the world see how slippery these JW stooges are

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing about you is the way you're carrying this matter on your head and you've never ever witnessed anything of such but the same you will not agree that God exist despite all the noise around the world about God!

Again, do you want to deny your jw.org did not state that there were child mol@sters amongst you? Do you wanna take that route, liar?

Dtruthspeaker:
It does shows the area and range of the valid and reasonable arguments anyone can make. For the issue of the existence of God is confined to this world that we know.

And it arises out of this world, and we are all using our knowledge and experiences in this world to make our arguments.

The bible, the first basis of our reasonable belief and the major cause of this debate also focuses on this world where we are.

Thus, "space" travel and diving into matters beyond the scope of the argument is a clear departure from the debate.

And the debate is proof of God which I have given and you did not rebut and not the proof of God's Origin and Beginning where you shifted and tried changing the argument into.



Both!

We are always where our properties are even when we are in other places.

Hope you know that this is a departure from the argument.

So if you are talking about this world, who created the other 'worlds' like other planets, galaxies etc?