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TenQ:
You are misunderstanding me.
I accept the will and command of God 100%. If God directly told me to jump down from a 100 storey building, I will do it.

However, has God Commanded me so?
No!

You Matinox can do what you have asked because you are convinced it is God's will and you have the necessary faith to pull it through.

However, you cannot make such rules for others because they are not you.

As believers, we hear God differently!
As believers, we have different levels of faith!
As believers, we hear God differently!

Are we all 100% sure of God's voice when He speaks to us?
If the person you ask to exercise faith is not 100% sure the voice is hearing is that of God: have you not set him up for regret?

Let everyone relate to God at the level of their Faith.
Rom 12:6:
"Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;"


Thou shalt not tempt the Lord your God.

It could also be weed speaking in your brain. Or you could be schizophrenic.

Mvnster:
If you believe there is a God that created man with intelligence then you are close enough.

If this statement above is correct, then your god must be a monster. Are you aware that cancer and plaques ravaged the world, yet your god sat back watching people(including christians) die in millions, while waiting for man's intelligence(he supposedly created) struggle to come to terms with those diseases. Why couldn't he make science very powerful to combat those scourges ravaging mankind for millennia ?

Veecruz:
Our creator. Not God"s Creator or Origin which clearly means that you have agreed that God is our Creator, where the argument ends.



And does this not show that you are assuming an alleging based on no proven fact that God must be created?

From what you display here, you absolutely have no idea what fallacies are and how easy it is to enter into one when you don't know them .

Dliespeaker, have you been banned again, or you still created a new moniker.
Anyway, I never agreed to being created. I'm making an assumption that there is a creator. Please tell me you understand what an assumption means.
I don't understand what the bolded means. Care to speak English?

Thorrn:
Let's take this step by step because it seems you're not even aware of the scope of your argument.

Now, you claimed that everything has a creator; that NOTHING exists that has the capacity to create itself. This was your claim: yes or no?

Answer accordingly, and then we may proceed.

No need, Thorrn. You'll be hosed with another Special Appeal fallacy, then when you argue, yet another Non Sequitor, and so on. The circular reasoning goes on and on

cornelboy:
Alright I believe in the Bible and not some science myths. It's my business.

Good. I'm cool with this. Have a nice day, bro

cornelboy:
Lol where did he say "I'm the Father"?

If a king sends his representative to a place and the rep. said to the people there that "seeing him is same as seeing the king", is that reasonable? Does that mean they are the same person?

Jesus clearly said he was sent by the father and his apostles and early church understood that.

Another lie
Jesus made a statement claiming to be God when He said, “Very truly I tell you, . . . before Abraham was born, I am!” (John 8:58).For example, in John 10:30, Jesus said, “I and the Father are one. The Jews, upon hearing Him, clearly understood that He was claiming preexistence and, more than that, to be Yahweh, the great “I AM” of Exodus 3:14. On this occasion, too, they tried to stone Him for blasphemy. The disciples of Jesus distinctly heard Him declare His deity. After Jesus’ resurrection, Thomas the doubting disciple finally understood Jesus’ deity, declaring Him to be “my Lord and my God” (John 20:28). If Jesus were not Lord and God, He would have corrected Thomas, but He did not; Thomas spoke the truth. This can only mean that Jesus is God. Even God the Father referred to Jesus as God: “About the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever’” (Hebrews 1:8, quoting Psalm 45:6).

Try and be reading this your Holy Babble. And take Aemmyjah along with you on the reading sessions. I'm tired of myself an atheist schooling you guys on your own book

Mvnster:
What do you understand by "don't put the Lord your God to the Test"?
Prayers wont work where God already made a provision which one refuse to rely on by claiming to follow faith.

Which provision did Yahweh make?

Emusan:
This is Gen 3:16 'Then he said to the woman, “I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy, and in pain you will give birth. And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you.”

Where did God say He has washed His hands off marriage?



But it doesn't mean God still not have hands in marriage.



Provide where God said He has washed His hands off marriage from the scripture first.

Then we will know who needs to dead the false idea.



Support this with scripture.



Well said!

You never reply my message on Does god exist?

Mvnster:
Is God the source of your faith or your own selfisness? Please if you are sick dont take drugs, pray for God to heal you lets see how it would end, since you think using our God given brain/knowledge is lack of faith.

So you're saying prayers don't work?

Matinox:
Greetings guys.

If you are not a believer, kindly stay out of this thread and take your logical sentiments elsewhere.

However if you want to be blessed by serving Jesus, and experience the victories of His faith, read on!

I've seen a number of threads regarding the issue of genotype in relationships and the overwhelming response & criticism that follows. It's sickening to read through and realize that believers also share the same medical sentiments and quickly clamp down on anyone asking such questions.

I have a question...
Can God heal HIV?
If your answer is yes;
Then, can God change a genotype?

I don't know if anyone here has been discouraged by reading some of these comments, and your Godly relationships is threatened. I have just one question for you and you'd be good...

Did God originate your relationship? Are you in the will of God?

If your answer is yes and you are sure, please and please, stay with God and don't listen to anything else that speaks against what God has said to you.

We have read of ladies who got married without a womb and had children...
We have read of couples who got married as AS, remained AS after the marriage and had Children who were born with AA as genotype.

God is still in the business of the supernatural!

If you have stories of victories in this regard, kindly share, let's strengthen the soul of each other and hold the fort.

Blessings and Peace!

Despite the fact that 90% of Nigerians know about sickle cell disease, the preponderance is still high. Its unbalanced people like you that encourage AS genotype cretards to marry each other and supply the steady stream of sickle cell patients overwhelming the health system. In sane countries, they arrest your type and lock them up. We don't need more crazies as a country
If you have seen a HBSS patient with vaso occlusive crisis, you won't spout this rubbish. Even though medical science has improved care with hydroxyurea, bone marrow transplant, stem cell therapy, they aren't easily accessible(especially the last 2 options) and of course, they are costly.
So take your bullshyt and stuff it where the sun don't shine

Hohenheim:
In Genesis chapter 2 God tells Adam not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil or he'll die



But in Genesis chapter 3 verse 4 the serpent tells Eve something different



In verse 22 the Bible tells us that God infact did lie to Adam and Eve.



So not only did our loving God have the chance to forgive his creation after being told the truth by another of his creation he decides to punish them and their so called generations for it.

He also denied Adam access to the tree of life thereby causing pain and suffering for billions of his so called creation.

But don't worry though, he sent himself in the form of his son to come and die for a problem he technically was at fault for.

Christians your god is a liar.
Lucky us though, He's as real as spiderman.

Also who gave Satan his omnipotent, omniscient etc powers? Yahweh!
Who created Eden and the tree of knowledge and planted it right in the middle of the garden(not even at the outskirts where it would be out of sight of Adam and Eve) and made it have luscious fruits? Yahweh!
Who is omniscient and knows Adam and Eve would eat the forbidden fruit but still went ahead to plant the fruit right in the garden? Yahweh!
Do you now understand why this all loving god wanted Adam fvcked from the get-go?

Maynman:
I wonder why the Christian god wanted Adam and Eve to be naked while He and His angels were fully clothed. Quite the curious situation with Yahweh there!

Sometimes you need some porn to liven up the place. Imagine hanging around boring angels worshipping your ass every damn second

Dtruthspeaker:
First off point. Not the topic.

Secondly, fallacy of presumption! No Road!

1. It is part of the topic. Why? You stated that nothing can exist on its own, that there has to be a creator. But you insist Yahweh created them all. So a sequitor thus is, who created Yahweh, then.

2. Fallacies of presumption means that the argument a person makes is based on an assumption, rather than a proven fact. From my first point, the question is based on your position, which is that everything must have a creator, thus my query which is who then created the creator.
From what you display here, you absolutely have no idea what fallacies are. You just dip your hand into a bag of fallacies and pull out the most fanciful at that moment and flash it in our faces. Poor you

Aemmyjah:
Atheists like jaephoenix are foolish people
Negative sadists desperately looking for someone to be like them

Okay

cornelboy:
Lol show me where the Bible says that.
Misinformed churchgoer that turned to atheist.
You guys are actually foolish way more than the people you think are foolish because they believe in the Bible.

Okay.
John 14:9
Jesus replied, Have I been with all of you for so long a time, and do you not recognize and know Me yet, Philip? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say then, Show us the Father?
From The above, Jesus is saying he is Yahweh. And if he is Yahweh, that means he sent himself. Savvy?
Any other questions, sire

cornelboy:
Oh i didn't come from the great ape actually. I forgot since you guys believe that you evolved from apes, you should find pictures that can support your beliefs.
So in a nutshell, you just trust anything they put on Google without any solid verifiable evidence?

1. You can claim to drop from the sky, that's your business
2. Isn't it funny that a guy that wholeheartedly believes everything in the Babble, from talking snakes, donkeys and bushes, sun and moon standing still for hours, mass resurrection of people from graves etc. All taken in without a shred of evidence whatsoever and without any historical backup. But somehow disbelieves evolutionary evidences in the form of H. Habilis, H. Erectus etc fossils which are scattered all over museums in the Western world. Please you can go to The Australian Museum in Darlinghurst, Australia; The British Museum, London; The Human Evolution Museum at Tring and South Kensington, London; Field Museum (Chicago); Museum für Naturkun, Brussels etc etc
The above list is not exhaustive by any stretch of the imagination. You can find out more here
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/visit/galleries-and-museum-map/human-evolution.html
You can also book an online interactive visit, if you're too lazy to haul your black ass.
And while you're there, you can check out the dinosaurs, which, by the way, was totally ignored by your Babble, despite occupying the earth for millions of years.
Cheerio

harqinhola:
WHO BE YOUR PLUG ABEG ❗️ wetin Una dey smoke sef ? Share contact Abeg , make we high together .

Its unfortunate christians(or theists, for that matter) are simply incapable of logical reasoning. Impossible.
Read what the OP said, then switch your brain on and think. Is he lying?

Image123:
Now, you are talking about a different thing and overgeneralising. Here is a discussion forum, where you normally have a choice of WHAT and WHO to talk about and to. i am not against anyone talking about their religion, and i don't normally waste my time going to talk them out of it or stop them from quoting their books.
Christians do evangelism because they were commanded to , and they often feel/think that they owe others the duty of care/warning. If some harass you, that is a problem with their method, they do not need to harass you(except harass has a diferent meaning). If they preach to you directly, they normally should not force you to listen. You may choose to or not in a personal evangelism. But it makes no sense telling them or others not to quote the Bible/other religious book in a religious discussion with you.

If every religious adherent obeys what is written in their holy books, don't you think there would be chaos?

cornelboy:
Have you seen this skulls and examine them before?
How are you hundred percent sure that they were from different species of human? Are humans skulls the same everywhere today?

I don't need to see them physically. Technology has made it easier. Below are their pictures. Look at the gross appearances. Then you'll see more differences histologically and genetically. It is obvious they came from different human species. And they didn't come from other apes cos the DNA(from the H. Habilis and H. Erectus) match the modern humans H. Sapiens.
During our second year in med school, we had to study human skulls, so I can spot one a mile off with its attributes and characteristics . My personal skull is still in my wardrobe at my parents' house. Talk about skeletons in the closet

cornelboy:
That was the evidence you wanted to bring to convince a sane person that the universe is without a creator lol?

It's more logical to believe that my android phone came by chance than to believe life/the universe came by chance.

For the second time, what did the link say?
By the way, your babble said Yahweh sent himself to the world to die, and appease himself. Makes perfect sense

Aemmyjah:
1. It is flat

2. A logical person like you said something could emerge from nothing

3. When did I counter them? Tag them here na

4. Fact? How?

1. There you go dvllard. Your babble says so. So I'm not surprised you agree
2. <crickets>
3. Not directly. If you say your own god did the job and not their god, you've already countered them, dvmmy
4. FACT. <LOUD CRICKETS>

Maynman:
You are just so desperate, you will do ANYTHING to defend your delusions, so these people are "Notable Scientists", what did they say about Evolution?
I hope you won't change mouth later when you have to desperately defend your intelligent designer that has a mind like you😂😂

Cc jaephoenix
Thorrn

Watch him stutter and ask you about mindless creation now

Aemmyjah:
Religious leaders and philosophers
1. Socrates (469-399 BCE):

2. Buddha (c. 563-483 BCE):

3. Confucius (551-479 BCE):

4. Aristotle (384-322 BCE):

5. Jesus Christ (c. 4 BCE-30/33 CE):

6. Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900): .

7. Viktor Frankl (1905-1997):

8. Dalai Lama (born 1935):

9. Paulo Coelho (born 1947):

10. Brené Brown (born 1965)


Politicians
1. Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948):

2. Nelson Mandela (1918-2013):

3. Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865):

4. Vaclav Havel (1936-2011):

5. Aung San Suu Kyi (born 1945):

6. Barack Obama (born 1961):

7. Jacinda Ardern (born 1980):


Notable Presidents and Governors
1. Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826):

2. Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865):

3. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882-1945):

4. Ronald Reagan (1911-2004):

5. Arnold Schwarzenegger (born 1947):

6. Andrew Cuomo (born 1957):




Notable scientists

Francis Crick (1916-2004):

Carl Sagan (1934-1996): .

Richard Dawkins (born 1941):




Sportsmen
1. Muhammad Ali (1942-2016):

2. Michael Jordan (born 1963):


All these men when they were alive amd active gave a meaning or questioned about life and it's purpose. Their quotations were taken when they were alive and some are still living
Maybe it's in your family that only dead or miserable people ask such questions

Enjoy the rest of the week

No quotation of Jesus Christ was gotten when he was supposedly alive. In fact, Jesus Christ isn't even a Jewish name. The English name Jesus, from Greek Iēsous, is a rendering of Joshua (Hebrew Yehoshua, later Yeshua). So obviously he's mythical

Aemmyjah:
Did you ask why you are breathing?
Your comparison is invalid
Everyone questions why there is life or how life came to be?
There is an interconnection between knowing the origin or source of life, why we are here and how to make a meaning from our life and be happy

If life is a result of mindless process, it leaves us without reliable guidance, hopeless, useless, purposeless and without meaning

If life came by purposeful design, then we are here for a reason, that one can teach us how to live our lives and be truly happy. That we were created already gives our lives a sense of meaning


What about you?
Are you a result of mindless process?
Or Intelligent design?

Breathing is involuntary.
So what is your reason of living? To talk rubbish on Nairaland?

Aemmyjah:
You are healthy right?
As a baby, you were breastfed
Your bones were straightened (I don know how they call it but it loos like they will break your bones but it is for babies else the body will look out of shape)
Mama always fed you and bathed you everyday
As you grew up, she ensured that you brush your teeth and showered
When you were ill, she either bought you drugs or herbs or enema or taken you to hospital to get a drip or injection
I did not remember to add early immunizations
You know what she did when you had a cut, cough
Some of all these things were painful, you cried or hated to do them or we did not even understand

You are healthy right?
Do you still brush your teeth, shower, eat the right meals, go for check ups...


I agree with you tho
I never ask anyone why I am healthy

What do you mean by the bolded?

Dtruthspeaker:
Still out of Point! The topic is about how we comnect to God, our Creator. And not a focus on our Creator which is a Change of Post.

So, we understand if you are not able to proceed without your changing the argument which is proof of God and not Proof of whether God has a God where you are shifting the argument to in which you also forget that the implication means that you admit that God indeed exists and that your fresh interest is in finding out whether He was also created just like us or not WHICH IS NOT THE ARGUMENT, HENCE OFF POINT/CHANGE OF POST.

Who created god?

Aemmyjah:
Someone remains healthy by chance shey?
Good health is not automatic
You have to maintain it
Is it birds that will tell you the secret of good health?

So who tells you about good health?

Aemmyjah:
Who read those links
False evidence

So there are 'false evidence' and 'true evidence'? Lol 😆
Interesting…

Aemmyjah:
And I said it can be demonstrated in your home na

I realize you're clueless. But trying to be smart to hide your cluelessness, makes it even worse for you

Aemmyjah:
Women undergo labor. Yes
Is it an easy process? Yes or No?

Are you aware some women deliver without assistance? Ever heard of precipitous labor, dvmmy?

Aemmyjah:
Have you?

No. I saw pictures and videos of the fossils, the analytical tools and how they logically back up evolution.
So I don't need to study them.
So since you haven't studied any fossils, why do you think evolution is false?

Aemmyjah:
I have given you examples of phenotypic expressions that can be influenced by the environment. Why knock on my door?

Explain why those examples I listed can be changed by environment, then I reply yours