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TenQ:
Wrong.
A software in a computer or Washing Machine exist but it cannot be seen nor touched


Softwares cannot be seen. What you see is the HDD or the flashdrive or the CD (the medium by which software is stored) but the software itself is invisible.


They cannot be seen by any physical method sir. Thus they annot be physically qunatified in terms of mass, dimension or energy


The Question was: 4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?


It is actually IGNORANCE that will make a person insist on physical quantification of a software to believe it exist



The Question was: 5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

There is no known method in the universe to prove the existence of a software within a machine except with another software.



You got your answers wrong because you did not know that the software of a computer is simply DATA and INSTRUCTIONS


Let me help you out


INFORMATION is REAL but not TANGIBLE
MATHEMATICS is REAL but not TANGIBLE
LOGIC is REAL but not TANGIBLE

I hope you can understand this

1. The output ie the display, is an evident of the software. It may not be the software itself but the fact that it emanates from the software, is in indication the software exists.
2. So what is the name of the entity that is measured in kb and stored in the flash drive?
3. Softwares can be made, stored and destroyed. They even have partitions in the storage media where they reside, so yes, they can be located. Even though we can't touch or hear them, we can interface with them via the visual output
4. We can see the visual output of the software. I can store it on a flash, copy and paste it in any media. So yes, I don't need anybody to convince me it exists. Its right in my flash drive, which is in my pocket
5. AI machines have interfaces their devs give instructions via the codes. These codes constitute the programs, I believe.
Like I said I'm not a computer scientist. But every endeavor of human existence works on logic
6. You are the ignorant and foolish one here who thinks we atheists would ask if softwares are real.
So why are these questions. I don't have the strength or time to start reading from page 1

Aemmyjah:
Jaephoenix
LordReed

Come and confirm this statement from someone of same IQ as yours
Is this true?

Bwahahahahahaha

Softwares can be seen. Are you also blind and retarded?

TenQ:
People who have nothing to hide NEVER will have a problem answering this questions except delusional people who bark like muzzled rabid dogs: empty barrels that make all the big noises.

Thanks Mr Aemmyjah, but let it come from their own mouths.

Dummy, I have answered your retarded friend

TenQ:
Why are you this elusive?

Again my Challenge to Atheists:
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?
2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?



Otherwise, admit that you are a bunch of good for nothing noise makers!

Just seeing this. I'm not a computer scientist but a physician, so I'm slightly incapacitated in this but I'll attempt
1. Yes, it doesn't exist
2. Softwares can be seen with the eyes. So yes, its real
3. Since they can be seen, their existence can be appraised
4. I don't know about quantifying softwares but as long as it can be seen, manipulated, stored(as kb/mb etc) they can be termed to exist
5. My above depositions have answered these inane questions.
Got any more stupid queries?

HardMirror:
only you mentioned me 10 times and 10 times were rubbish. did you see the hashtag in the post that is making you mastubate? you dont know what sarcasm is? that is whyi put the hashtag for idiots like you. but i guess you are worse than an idiot.

Lol. Dude even replied u with one of his alts created yesterday , StillDtruth.
I think DTruthSpeaker is psychotic, possibly schiz. He has some delusions and what is worse is there is no insight. He's probably not married, since marriage has a way of mitigating psychiatric illnesses.
I'm not tryna diss him or cap. Anyone around him should take him for at least a mental state exam

Lawag3 see your guy

ocnovakmichael:
You're a bald head liar. Then how did you come to this world? The probability of you coming to earth is contingent upon improbable conditions. You could have come as a girl.
Why did you demonstrate, in writing, your ignorance without thinking?


Think about that!

I still insist many theists have poor grasp of science.
So since he turned out to be a male, then its a miracle? So the father's Y chromosome merging with the mother's X chromosome, is miraculous?
Did you do probability in school?
Scratch that. Did you do any science or technology course?
Whoa! Just whoa

ocnovakmichael:
The faintest idea that there's fake miracles imply the real still exists.

Again can you point out the 'real' miracles?
Also going by your analogy, the faintest idea that superheroes exist, suggests Spider-Man exists

ocnovakmichael:
Let me start by saying, God is the greatest surgeon. Even Adam, the first man, testified of God's surgical ability when he said, "... This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." (Genesis 2:23).

This article was born out of a demand from one of my readers when he commented on a topic I wrote on "Strange Powers Resident in the Church."

One of my readers with the pseudonym LordReed, in his comment, said: "Use this so called power to give an amputee their limb back."

1 Corinthians 12:7-10
7. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom, to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit,
9. To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10. To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues.


What an amputee needs is the working of miracles.
However, let me start by establishing that with God, nothing is impossible. And the same power and authority resident in Christ Jesus is in the church, as the corporate anointing.
The Bible teaches that, "Do you not know and understand that you [the church] are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells [permanently] in you [collectively and individually]?" (1 Corinthians 3:16)
The church has the experiential power through the manifestation of the Spirit to restore an amputees' limb. However, the amputee must meet two annex conditions. That is, first, the amputee must be willing to receive a miracle: because God cannot do anything without your will. "If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land" (Isaiah 1:19). Also, still emphasizing on the will, the Lord Jesus asked, the man who had an infirmity for thirty-eight years, the question: "... Wilt thou be made whole?" (John 5:6). Second, the amputee must be in a place where working of miracles is preached: because it is in that atmosphere that God will confirm His word. The Bible says, "But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;" (Titus 1:3). And in Mark's gospel the Bible says: "And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen" (Mark 16:20).

You see, in Jesus' day, when the people heard he was in a certain place, they carried the lame, the weak, the diseased to him to be healed because it is in that place that the Spirit is in manifestation. The power of God is present everywhere and in every church, so to speak. Yet, there're certain ministries where certain types of manifestation is prevalent.
I want you to understand here that the atmosphere, where the Spirit of God is in manifestation, is very important. Scripture says, "And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them. And behold, men brought in a bed a man which was taken with palsy: and they sought means to bring him in, and lay him before him" (Luke 5:17-18).

In the text above did you notice the phrase, "The power of the Lord was present to heal them," and also "Men brought in a bed a man"?
Working of miracles is given as the Spirit wills but it is more prevalent in ministries that exercise themselves therein. Men have to bring in a sicker of miracle into that atmosphere to be healed and/or to receive a miracle.
Jesus' question to that man, who had an infirmity thirty and eight years show that sometimes your outer conditions wants to be healed but your inner convictions says otherwise. In the end, one who needs healing or a miracle, should by every means, look for a living church where the manifestation of the Spirit is preached: for it is in that atmosphere that one could receive one's healing or miracle.


Do not hoard knowledge, propagate it!

Jesus is Lord!

U guys have been saying 'With god all things are possible' and have been showing us all sorts of fake miracles. When asked for verification, u ask us to go verify ourselves. When we tell you we can't find evidence of healing, u call us liars.
Now u guys cant show us miracles of regrowing of limbs. Why? Its impossible to fake. There's 3 orthopedic hospitals in Nigeria, plus many orthopedic wards in hundreds of tertiary health institutions, all of them are filled with amputees of all kinds. Infact u can't find them on the roadsides. As a physician, I have never witnessed one miracle or heard one that happened. U find sick people/amputees in hospitals, the people u see on tv are actors. If truly healings happen, hospitals would be out of fashion. But guess what, even churches run clinics during church hours. Sick people go there to get cured, no pastors praying for them. Yes, churches now run outpatient clinics.
So what kinda faith r u talking about? Jesus said in the babble that even faith of a mustard seed is enough. That is the tiniest bit of faith! For an amputee to even show up in church for healing is more than enough faith, but guess what, no healing. All we hear is its spiritual healing, and other bullshit. When would you guys get tired of this?

Emmanuel30a:
Pay me, if you wants to know what I am saying...

Ok

Sapasenator:
Do not blame God my friend, blame their stupidity. God gave them a brain but they have refused to use it.

Why do you pray? And what does the babble say about asking and it shall be given?
Keep giving excuses

Iamanoited:
GOD NEEDS JUNIOR POPE AT 39. JESUS WAS 33 WHEN YOU CRUCIFIED HIM.

So Yahweh doesn't need u now?

LordReed:
LoLz! You purposely left out #thewaychristainspercieveatheists, which shows he was being satirical but sure he "confessed" . Bwahahahahaha!

Anybody wey follow you go enter gutter I swear. LMFAO!

Once Dliespeaker starts saying stuff about atheists, he's always lying. And his lies are just childish

Veecruz:
Aha! Its like the heat is making you atheists mad ooo

What is in the link?
Are you HardMirror denying that you did not say this? Deny it first.

O, what am i saying sef, A DECEIVER IS A LIAR!

Oya, children of satan , see the link of una captain confessing
https://www.nairaland.com/2876811/confession-atheits-work-satan#42133743

U r a dummy. Did you read his very last word? Lmao
Not only are you vile, u r dumb too

Veecruz:
Its like your head is paining the very first post shows what caused me to say what i said. And since you did not deal with the cause, you have no right to insalt me, (unless of course you are a devil) for i did not insalt you.

And ur insult made me insult you too. By the way, it turns out u r lying as usual. Take ur meds

Veecruz:
Hahahahahahaha See Pain!

So, the insalts and abuse commences !

Its like your eyes are paining u. Check out the insults and abuses u started reeling off right from ur very first post

Emmanuel30a:
FRANCISTOWN, what is your mission? Leave GOD OUT OF this inhibition or of his inhibition... He has been seeing the vision or his vision like television... What is your mission that you don't have remission, vision that you don't have revision...? Intermission, that you don't have mission...? If you wants to see visions or wants to be seeing visions, go and build your own mansion and be making intercession... Calls it a mission, I mean your mansion... Look for one iya mission to holds the mansion... So that you can both be seeing vision...without inhibition... Let them be watching you on television...

What are you saying?

chigbolu:
God was there when he died, I remember when he first made the trip he was on the boat praying for his life saying he was an only son and he got to the movie site successfully. However on his way back I heard he was forced to the boat without a life jacket and he accepted, I also heard from eye witness account that he took some bottles of beer before boarding and that their pilot was also distracted because they were shooting live videos. With all these I draw a conclusion that Pope became relaxed on the way back and did not show thesame fear he had while he was going. Let us learn from his mistakes by being alert at all times. God is always there for us. Let us pray for GOD to accept Pope into heaven.

What an excuse? Are you ALWAYS alert and in prayers while embarking on journeys? So why don't you have accidents in those ones u were relaxed?

immortalcrown:
You saw this and that. Did you see him alive in any of the videos? Did any of the people you listened to tell you that they confirmed him alive when he was removed from the water?

There were videos he was alive

FRANCISTOWN:
According to a video I saw. The people there claimed he was still alive but very unconscious. I also saw a video where a guy said. The herbalist asked them to take him to the hospital to receive oxygen.

My question is, do you pass oxygen thru a dead person?

That aside. You said you God can do all things but won't do all things. Then of what use is a dog that can guard a house and chase away thieves but when the thieves come, the dog just act like it's none it's business?

Why buy such dog? What's the point of feeding such dog?
If there is a God but that God can come thru during desperate time, then of what use is serving that God?

I maintain my ground that if the guy had been taken to the hospital instead of the herbalist at first, high chance the guy might still be alive and would probably have oha for breakfast today.
If the guy had woken up, the supposed God would have taken credit for it and our people would never even for once think it's a work of chance.
Now that your God has failed, he no longer meddle in the affairs of men. While your Bible states the opposite that "God rules in the affairs of men".

Is this the God they are calling people to worship? This one does not deserve worship even if he lived.

I've said it. There is nothing that I've heard so far, be it Yahweh, Allah,Chukwu or which ever one of them that fits into the description of what can be called a God. Lots of irresponsible fairy dudes

I can bet you that today being sunday, JP would have been in church praising Yahweh and giving a chunk of cash to his pastor, and the whole social media would be awash with how 'What god cannot do does not exist', even this Immortalcrown clown would be amongst them. But now he has failed, story don change
Buncha retards

Balablue64:
God is probably eating nkwobi with small odeku or maybe traveled

Or watching porn

Olachase:
Man situation is non of God business anymore, that's why he God gave us brain


Some people have wasted their precious time in Church and Mosque praying and fasting still they remain poor

Imagine a car dragging road with truck all in the name of I cover my car with the blood of Jesus 😔😔

So why do u pray?

immortalcrown:
One of the things that differentiates God from humans is that God does not take the place of man to show that he (God) can do all things. He does not interfere in what is within human capacities.

God can but does not interfere in how humans use their potentials. He allows us to make our choices and face the consequences of the choices.

He gave us brains to produce and wear life jackets but most of us choose to abandon the jackets and disturb God to keep us afloat water. He can keep us afloat but will not do it.

We always shout, "Do your best and leave the rest to God". But we don't even accomplish our good talk more of doing our best.

But OP, I disagree with your claim that the guy died because he was first taken to a herbalist. He actually died in the water. Didn't you hear that they suspected a movement of his finger and thought he was alive? Did anyone tell you that he breathed or spoke after being removed from the water? He was not even the first victim removed from the water. The first guy removed from the water died in the water. So, how could Junior Pope be removed rescued alive when another guy rescued before him died in the water?

This os just bullshit. Its clearly written in the Bible that Yahweh answers prayers when called upon. Now that he's sleeping as usual, u r now defending him. So what about christians that pray before embarking on journeys where there is armed robbers? Why bother? Isn't it government that provides security? Why ask Yahweh?
Christianity is only for the low IQ folks

LordReed:
LoLz! You were right he was just up to his usual lying for his beliefs. He is probably one of the most despicable people in this section.

Dliespeaker is too toxic for religion section. They had to ban his moniker, now he is using one of his alts and still spewing lies and hate

Veecruz:
The topic is not Tizizi and no one asked for your Tizizi but everyone knows man and spirit.

So if you truly believe your atheism is right, publicly stand and speak the words denying that men, do not know that they have a none physical and invisible side of him.

Otherwise, it is settled that you atheists are Lying Spineless Cowards who stand fot nothing, Not even on atheism.

So, which dodging are you going.to use now for you have just finished using pretence of lack of unserstanding and it did not work Hahahahaha

So, what is the new dodging?

Dodging united, united una dodge! hehehehehehehe

No. Tizizi is the topic. Its what u can't see and feel

Dliespeaker, have u skipped ur meds again?

jesusjnr2020:
When She Wants To Talk To You About Everything Else But Jesus

Ever met any girl who wants to chat pretty much about everything else with you but not about Jesus?

I have met quite a few.

Once was while I was traveling from Abuja to Port Harcourt in bus, and found myself on the last seat in the bus sitting right next to a young lady.

As expected, we chatted along the way and at some point even started singing Gospel songs together.

I could vividly remember when she corrected me while we were singing a popular Christian song, "Be magnified". She said it was I was not getting the lyrics right, and i was quite surprised because I've been proudly singing it that way since thinking it was correct prior to that, but she was the one that corrected me with confirmation online that she was right while I was wrong.

I appreciated her for that correction and things seemed to be going well between us until I took it to the next level as typical of me, and started preaching to her about Jesus, that it's important though not just to sing such songs about Him with our mouths but also really mean it from our hearts.

That was it and the same girl that was so passionately singing "be magnified oh Lord" and even corrected me when I got the lyrics wrong suddenly switched to silent mode.

She that was facing me prior to that but after I just said that, she immediately adjusted her body and started facing front.

I was wondering what I had done wrong or said that made her suddenly stop talking to me.

That was how it was until until we arrived at the bus terminal in Port Harcourt.

She refused to talk to me again in the bus just because I started preaching to her about Jesus.

God bless.

Imagine a Muslim stranger meets you and starts preaching the koran to u, forcing u to acquiesce that Allah is the greatest.
Yeah think about it

HardMirror:
i dare you to post the link not something you edited. Jaephoenix

Its DTruthSpeaker, the dumbest and vilest christian on Nairaland. I don't think he has any evidence. Just ignore the dolt