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Please someone should notify one JW madm@n here known as MadMax
He is their sole advocator here. Let him explain how their god would save her

FxMasterz:
God's will cannot be changed. Whatever is then changeable depends on your faith, love and compassion to make God take actions on your behalf.

If admitting equals believing, leave that for the subject. I said, admit and not believe. Those are two different things.

I have seen someone , a Muslim who admitted that indeed Jesus cured his wife of insanity but yet never believed in Jesus. He only said his wife and children are free to follow us to church if they want.

U still haven't explained why admitting and believing aren't the same,Mr Dodger.
So u believe your god can be blamed when christians pray and don't get their miracle. Thank you for that

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣Oga there you are making another claim that you've not proven.....are you saying that no one can interface with a spiritual spider and that a spiritual spider doesn't make sense to anyone?

Yup. No one can interface with the spiritual spider. Do you know of any means we can interface or interact with it? If you do please do let me know.
A spiritual spider doesn't make sense to me or you. At least we have confirmed that

Dtruthspeaker:
So after all your years on earth you want to tell the whole world that you did not know nor expect your girlfriend to cheat? Haba, stop lying. Even 16yr olds knew that, and the threads on cheating have confirmed it.

So, you know this one. And there are many other things you foreknow eg that Tinubu would win the election, your children must fight each other, you would quarrel with your children etc. So, you see, you know a lot.

Again,all these ones you listed may or may not happen. Nobody knows tomorrow except your god. So please stop talking crap

TenQ:
So, which part of Jesus's teachings tell the christians to kill Atheists?

Didn't your god order infidels to be ki!!ed?

TenQ:
So, when Atheists kill others, they do it for satan!?
SMH!!

Off point. What has this statement gotta do with our discourse

TenQ:
Did these wicked people claim that they are killing for Jesus?
Of course, the answer is NO!

You are free to label them as Christian terrorist as much as you like!
No One can be Christlike and be killing people at the same time: they have no such examples to follow. Were they chanting "Jesus is Lord" as they murdered their victim!?


Back to the TOPIC in question before the Pro-Islamic Programmed AI deleted my post

Since according to you, the OP was correct, then the joke is on you as according to the claim of your prophet

Qur'an 29:46
"And say, 'We believe in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is one (and the same), and to Him we submit as Muslims.'"

PLEASE RESPOND!
Were your prophet and his God aka Al-Makr telling lies in Qur'an 29:46 or it was a statement in pure Ignorance as he doesn't know that the Christian God is a Trinity who is unlike anything or anyone in creation as He can be somewhere and everywhere at the same time?

Was Qur'an 29:46 a statement made in IGNORANCE or a statement by TAQQIYYA?

So they are not killing for Jesus (according to you),that means the Muslims too weren't killing for Allah. Let's end it here then

TenQ:
Have you ever seen any Christian fighting for Jesus?
We are not like you.

Since according to you, the OP was correct, then the joke is on you as according to the claim of your prophet

Qur'an 29:46
"And say, 'We believe in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is one (and the same), and to Him we submit as Muslims.'"

PLEASE RESPOND!
Was your prophet telling lies?

TenQ u out of all people know that christians do fight for your god. From the days of Great Crusades,Huguenot wars etc,Christianity has been fighting for their gods. Also there are even christian terrorists though not as violent as the Islamic ones but still they exist

yemmight:
Which Christians you know that is admitting to your nonsense thought?

Go to social media especially Instagram. Christians saying they are not interested in these prayers politicians, priests,pastors are organizing. They want action

SIRTee15:
U guys are just double mouthed confusionist.

If Christianity respond with violence and deal decisively with these bandits, u guys will be the ones shouting genocide up and down.

When america invaded the middle east after 9/11 and massively bombed those places into ruins, u people started calling america a bully.

When the Pope called for crusade to take back Christian lands stolen by Muslims, historians called them warmongers.

When Queen Isabella expelled Muslims and Jews from Spain, historians accused her of being religious intolerance.

When Trump called out the incompetent Nigerian govt, people said America is looking for excuse to start another war.

Christianity is generally a peace seeking pacifist religion and it's not known for violence in anyway.

We understand the importance of peace and not using religion as an excuse to murder.

Allow those who wants to attend church be allowed n those not interested stay away.

Obviously u don't know your history,so imma just direct you to research on the spread of Christianity. The Great Crusades, Huguenot Wars, Salem Witch trials etc were all caused by Christians. The Great Crusades led to thousands of lives lost from Emperor Constantine who was expanding Christianity through the edge of the sword. Any pagan caught either claims Christianity or is ki!!ed. Even now there are Christian t@rrorist groups
Read up on o
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nathaniel-veltman-muslim-family-canada-b1862845.html%3famp

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10576100701611288

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/feb/16/wieambilla-shootings-australia-christian-terrorist-attack-queensland-police

https://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/

BewareOf419:
I was there when someone adviced you to stop taking kolos but you refused!

I was also there when you refused to stop crystal meth

jesusjnr2020:
Don't mind the God-hater.

His hatred for God had made it impossible for him to see that Trump could be God's answer to the prayers of persecuted Christians.

God in Bible days severally raised prophets and kings because of the prayers of the afflicted and persecuted so this could be no exception.

Thanks and God bless.

So what is your Trump doing now? Is he still aware more christians are dyyyin

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=137684328][/quote]I cannot know my girlfriend would cheat cos I'm not all knowing, Mr Man.

Truthseeker10:
Lol.......so why did you claim that I was right that the idea of a spiritual spider controlling my actions does not make sense since you cannot disprove it?

Now kindly prove how you are right to say that the above idea of a spiritual spider does not make sense?

You have every right not to believe it cos you can't interface with it,bro. It's that simple.
I am right because none of us can interface with it and so it's within our rights to logically disbelieve

FxMasterz:
It's alright. You would have made a more honorable person if only you can admit your mistakes. You need to first show me a dictionary where admit is same as believe.

I think I already had enough of you. I always like it when individuals can be truthful and honest in their dealings. I always know you be one who lies. But today, I can see that you lie without remorse.

And for your question which you lied that I dodged, I already answered you that prayed don't force God to do anything against His will. All Christians acknowledge that. If God wants someone's to die and you pray, the person will still die anyway, but, if the person's issue is from the devil, prayers can stop the person from dying.

Your own compass ion and your faith will help your prayers gain value before God. If it's missing, you have a great void to fill for your answers to come.

Let me add that prayers are answered dependent on God's will, a person's relationship with God and/or God's mercy. And all are connected through Love and Faith. Prayer is not a game of blaming anybody.

Thanks for your time actually. I'll get in touch with you on telegramn latest by tomorrow.

One has to believe before admitting,oga. No how can someone admit what he or she doesn't believe. All these dodgery no go help you.
So you admit your god wants some folks to die? Thank God(pun intended ) u have admitted this one. Make I take snapshot cos u go deny next time.
So u also agree your god does his things irrespective of prayers. Cool. So why do we pray then if your god has already made up his mind about us? I mean we can just say 'abeg god do wetin dey ur mind' no need for all these fasting and prayers.
And then the same bible says pray without ceasing? Dey confuse yourself
I thought u said god does his thing irrespective of our prayers and then the next sentence u say our prayers gain weight from our compassion and faith? Who are you trying to confuse?

FxMasterz:
Jae, your lies are reaching unprecedented new heights. I can't believe you even lie this much. I said "all doctors admit..." But you're saying I said "all doctors believe. " Why can't you just hold on to truth and stay by it?

I don't have any further arguments to make with you. Just keep lying and deceiving yourself thinking you're deceiving others.

Or, were you not the very person who highlighted my words below? Even if you don't have the fear of God, where is your civility and courtesy?

So tell me,what's the difference between admit and believe, in this context? Mr. Lienus?
I also asked you a question which I said you'll dodge and indeed you dodged it lol 😆
Lemme repeat that question. If a christian doctor prays and a botches a procedure leading to a mortality, who should be blamed? The doctor, Yhwh or the patient

Truthseeker10:
Lol....so because I don't believe proves that spiritual spiders do not exist?


Me disbelieving you does not prove that spiritual spiders do not exist. I never claimed that spiritual spiders do not exist or cannot control a person's actions or that they don't make sense in General to other people. I simply said that I do not believe you.

Now can you prove that spiritual spiders do not exist and cannot control a person's actions since you claimed that you are right for saying that anything that you don't believe and you cannot interface doesn't make sense?

No,I cannot prove they exist or control destinies. Neither can I disprove they don't exist or control destinies. Since I cannot do neither, I chose not to believe til sufficient evidence exists. And I see that you did the same,which is logical
This is also how law courts and other logical systems work. If there is no evidence to prove any action eg murder,then the court strikes out the lawsuit
Savvy?!

Truthseeker10:
Lol...so anything that i don't believe and I cannot interface does not make sense in general to any other person?

Can you disprove that a spiritual spider can actually control a person's actions?

But you just you don't believe the spiritual spider exists. How can I disprove something I tell you? I am the one telling you a spiritual spider exists and controls you but you disbelieve me. Of course I can't explain it to you cos there's no evidence

FxMasterz:
So, I am the one twisting it because I told you exactly what I said and asked you if it meant the same thing as what you accused me of?

It is not the job of a doctor to tell a patient a miracle happened. But when the unexplainable happens and the patient asks for explanations from the doctor to no avail, the patient would insinuate it, and the doctor could answer "probably". He will go about asking his senior colleges for answers and when no one can offer him an explanation, he admits it within himself that a miracle just occured.

No one said he'll say it to a parent. I have seen doctors awed at the turn out of events. They cannot explain what happened. They know a miracle occurred.

Read what you said. Or are you also grammatically challenged? You said all doctors believe in the supernatural when an unexplainable event occurs. Now u r denying it.
So if it's not the place of a doctor to say a miracle occurred, why do doctors pray? Isn't it for a miracle to happen? You see how you're twisting yourself into pretzels? A doctor not knowing how a particular event happens doesn't mean that event is supernatural. It could mean the specialists know about it. That's how the referral system in healthcare works. You send to consultants who know more. And if the consultants dont know,they research

Truthseeker10:
because I choose not to believe? Why should I believe?

Good. Now you get my drift about the spiritual.
The fact that folks mention some stuff that cannot be interfaced with doesn't mean I should believe. And you are right in your own not to believe cos it doesn't make sense.
The spiritual can be anything and can be twisted to mean anything, and since we cannot ascertain the properties of those stuff,it can be used to manipulate us. For example, I can yell you this spider holds your destiny and you should gimme money so I can bribe it to brighten your destiny
Thus that is why science and myself don't believe in the spiritual realm.
Any questions sire?

FxMasterz:
So, by your own understanding of English All doctors admit the supernatural when the unexplainable happens is the same as "all doctors admit the supernatural"? You've seen your lies but you still want to run it on my face?

I've gotten your telegram. Will reach you by tomorrow.

Anyhow you twist it, it's the same thing
And correction,not all doctors believe the supernatural when unexplainable stuff happens. As a doctor,that is malpractice. It's only in backward countries like Nigeria that a doctor can tell a patient that their god has healed them and get away with that. Tell that to a patient in the UK. GMC would have your license in an instant. US state boards would descend on you

Truthseeker10:
If you are referring to a spiritual spider, I don't believe you. Do you have any issues with my disbelief?

Why dont you believe my spiritual spider?

FxMasterz:
I don't need to read everything you said. Please screenshot where I said All doctors believe in the supernatural. You claimed I said that, and I corrected you. If you insist, please screenshot it and let me see.

I have gone back to read all you said. You you tag me a liar like yourself? I will prove you as the liar today. Just screenshot where I said all doxtors believe in the supernatural.

Mr Lie lie,look at the highlighted text

Truthseeker10:
you mean a spider is spiritual?

Yes the spider I said that's in your head is spiritual. And it's controlling your actions. Do you believe me? Yes or no?

FxMasterz:
I know you'll lie over many things. All you said above cannot be believed. God is the one who works when we pray. Prayer does not force God to work. But it can make Him work. If God decides for a person to die, no prayer can stop it. But if it's the devil that is taking the person's life, then prayers can stop the devil.

I never said all doctors believe in the supernatural. You can choose not to believe it, your ignorance of the truth does not make the truth less a reality. The spiritual controls the physical.

Anyway, I'm done with you. Thanks for your time.

Please send your telegram contact to maindev20@gmail.com.

You keep on lying and when you are caught, you change tact. You boldly said all doctors believe in the supernatural. Your lying is getting outta hand. I remember you now in my previous threads. You lie without compuction.
So you don't want to believe anything I post here even when I quote scientific articles? And you don't want to research the articles to conclude. You just want to believe whatever your mind tells you. And then add a sprinkling of lies when you're caught. Tomorrow you'll tell me you're christian
I have sent my telegram

Truthseeker10:
Don't you think that is why people believe that the supernatural exists because Even science cannot disprove it?

When you answer my question about the spider and dragon,then I'll explain why it's foolish to believe the supernatural. Shall we?

Truthseeker10:
can you prove that there is a spider?

I can't. Its spiritual. And it's controlling all you do in this life

Truthseeker10:
But you agree that science does not disprove the supernatural?

Science cannot disprove the supernatural. The question is HOW DO WE KNOW THE SUPERNATURAL EXISTS?

Truthseeker10:
Ok so you agree that science does not disprove either?

It cannot.
Now answer this. Can you prove that there is no spider on top of your head?

Truthseeker10:
Do you agree with meta ai

Science is all about the natural world as we interact with it. Religion believe in the supernatural, which cannot be proven.
An example. I can tell you I have a dragon in my garage and it's invisible. Science would not prove it cos there's no way it can be proven scientifically. Religion would say yes it's possible. That only the spiritually discerning would see this dragon. Also this religion has many people using it,some say this dragon is red,some say it blue,some say it's black etc. This is how denominations pop up in Christianity. Since it's 'spiritual',no one can ascertain anything and can say it's anything.
Now the problem with this is scientifically,we don't know if truly this dragon exists at all since we can't prove it our own way.
Feel me?

Truthseeker10:
Does science disprove the existence of God?

Science is agnostic at worse. Or agnostic atheistic at best. Meaning it cannot prove the existence of a deity or supernatural