Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Atheist Lady Converts Back To ‘Christianity’ After Moving Abroad(Photos by jaephoenix(m): 3:37pm On Dec 10, 2025 |
Kaczynski: she is just a content creator, thats her job. Probably wants to open an online church like Jerry. Na so dem go blow one story laidat |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Atheist Lady Converts Back To ‘Christianity’ After Moving Abroad(Photos by jaephoenix(m): 3:36pm On Dec 10, 2025 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Christians Are Begining To Admit That God Is USELESS. Can't Solve Insecurity by jaephoenix(m): 9:21am On Dec 10, 2025 |
Ken4Christ: China is not facing the same security threat we are facing. So, its not a good example. China has more atheists than Nigeria and thus they don't pray as much as Nigerians. I thought if one doesn't pray,bad stuff happens to the person? Isn't it what you christians tell us? Oya talk another one |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Inter Milan Vs Liverpool: UCL (0 - 1) On 9th December 2025 by jaephoenix(m): 8:09am On Dec 10, 2025 |
crazygod: Apart from that lucky penalty, we no play well. Thank God for Allison that made a very sweet save. Still, Slot must leave this club. Oga wetin u dey talk? We bossed possession and had more shots on target |
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 8:55am On Dec 09, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: 🤣🤣🤣Oga there you are making another claim that you've not proven.....are you saying that no one can interface with a spiritual spider and that a spiritual spider doesn't make sense to anyone? Ok. So why didn't you believe in the spiritual spider? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians Are Begining To Admit That God Is USELESS. Can't Solve Insecurity by jaephoenix(m): 8:08am On Dec 09, 2025 |
Ken4Christ: What is there to reply. Nigeria would have been long gone if not for the prayer of the saints. Ok. According to your logic,China,Japan and East European countries that have more percentage of atheists and thus least prayerful would have gone to extinction. This is the exact reason I don't rate christians. No reasoning faculty |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:49am On Dec 09, 2025 |
AlphaTaikun: @jaephoenix
I CLEARLY stated on this thread that I'm NOT a member (or an adherent) of JW. Just as I stated, it was back in the 1990s via an AWAKE magazine published by the JWs that I FIRST got to know about non-blood transfusion alternatives such as EPO, so I had to do some more research on the Internet on EPO and other alternatives back then in the late 1990s.
Second, based off of your insights here, I appreciate your extra layers of CLARITY and insights into this blood transfusion OR NO blood transfusion alternatives topic. My primary concern and interest in these alternatives to blood transfusions though has to do with the many cases of reported infections of unsuspecting folks in some countries of the world with HIV, Ebola, Lassa Virus, hepatitis variants, etc, through improperly screened blood. So many people have been known to get wrong genotype results from some diagnostic labs (due to human errors or the use of expired reagents) so getting second or third opinions from more credible diagnosis labs become important.
It's important for folks to choose wisely when thinking of taking blood transfusions and alternatives as well because there are PROS and CONS in every situation. The prerogative to choose wisely is on everyone.
Cheers. I apologize for the misconception. I used to read AWAKE too,I admit. It's quite educative but I guess the JW folks have some other darker sides. Now in medicine, we always weigh the benefits and risks. If the benefits outweigh the risks,then we stick with it. If the risks outweigh the benefits, we chuck it. Blood transfusion benefits outweigh the risks. What we do is we try to make is as safe as possible. For example in Lagos state,they made it a law that EVERY blood given to a patient must come from a Lagos state approved blood bank. The blood is screened and re-screened for safety. In fact since I started practicing here, i have NEVER seen a blood bag without their tag and number. And we always note the number and verify. I have never heard or seen of any patient with blood borne infections here. I know there are measures in other places. Of course there is the negligible margin of human error which happens in any human endeavor but there's nothing we can do about it. And I have never heard of Lassa,Ebola being transmitted via transfusions. So yes blood transfusions are safe. Ignore the JW maniaccsxs |
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 7:29pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So where is your prove that no one can interface with a spiritual spider? I never told you that a spiritual spider never made sense to everyone. So I do not need to prove anything to you. You are the one making a claim that it doesn't make sense to anyone. Please where is your prove? So why didn't believe in that spiritual spider? Explain succinctly |
Christianity Etc › Re: You Don't Believe In Jesus? Tell Me, Which God Can Do Wonders Like This? by jaephoenix(m): 7:28pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
FxMasterz: So, I'm the one that should explain? The burden of proof lies on you.
Show us how admit equals belief from a dictionary.
I already messaged you on telegram. And I asked you if one can admit something without believing, Mr Artful Dodger. Please answer me, who do we blame if a christian doctor prays before a failed emergency surgery? God or the doctor? |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:23pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
LordReed: Oga CAR T-Cell therapy is NOT an alternative to blood transfusion. Do your research properly. The guy na dvllllard |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:22pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
Thunderfayamods: Read that and also do some research by yourself kiddddooo......👇👇👇👇 English na problem to do simple research na problem. I don't understand. Are you saying it was the JWs that sponsored the researches,or did the research themselves, or gave the bloodless surgeries? Btw, not all surgeries can be bloodless. It's usually the cold cases that are. The emergencies are bloody and YOU MUST HAVE Blood |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:20pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
Thunderfayamods: How is their life tell me about it. Tell me where you worship and let me give you some food for thought. Hyppooocritesss. U folks are not honest. At least from my interface with MaxInDHouse,Aemmyjah,Janosky and few others. I'm an atheist. I don't worship any baga. |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:18pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
Thunderfayamods: Is evolution part of main stay science. Majority of scientists still reference and give glory to God. What a pity. Yes evolution is a mainstay of science. And no,majority of scientists aren't christians. And even the Christians don't let their beliefs interfere with their scientific research |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:17pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
Thunderfayamods: Gia and rest okay? Your English is horrrrible and I won't go back and forth with you again, most of you here are children. You don't make research you just make comment. Stop lying and being evasive. One of the reasons is still a reason |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:15pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
Thunderfayamods: What a pity you children on nowadays don't research. Ignoramusse u said JW believe in science,so that means u believe in evolution. Are you this d@ffte |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians Are Begining To Admit That God Is USELESS. Can't Solve Insecurity by jaephoenix(m): 7:13pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
Ken4Christ: You have allowed demons to possess you after backsliding from the faith. Your judgement will be worse than those who never know the Lord. Be warned. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Ogbeni reply his post and stop capping lubbis. People wey no dey think |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians Are Begining To Admit That God Is USELESS. Can't Solve Insecurity by jaephoenix(m): 7:11pm On Dec 07, 2025 |
TenQ: I can understand that some people like you don't have any iota of respect for their father at home.
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Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 9:57am On Dec 07, 2025 |
GanagiBitrus: Calm down Bro, let's be clear on this. Are you saying no JW member has lost his life on account of refusing blood transfusion?
Did you even read the comment I quoted that claimed many JW members have covertly received blood transfusion & lived. Watch him dodge your question now... that's their life |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 9:57am On Dec 07, 2025 |
Janosky: Was the lady's treatment successful? Yes, it did.
Did her doctor share your view? No. You are here expressing your bias. I've met an elderly man (a Pentecostal) who had major surgery & his doctors followed the procedure that JWs preferred,he said feels rejuvenated aand healthier. Oga,continue deceiving yourself. Cold cases work well with auto transfusions and Epo. But emergencies...? No. There's 100% mortality |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 9:56am On Dec 07, 2025 |
Janosky: The folks here on this thread couldn't hide their bias & unreasonable sentiments in their hearts.
The medical team performed an outstanding feat without transfusion, worthy of commendation. These folks don't appreciate the success of the medical team who respects the rights of his patient for a treatment she prefers. But ,non of these folks want their own right to medical treatment to be infringed upon by their doctor or anyone. If the medical team had done the procedure on their pastor,they would applaud him & say their deity did it,but because it's JW's treatment that was successful, they are expressing bias. Hypocrites they are , I must say . I am doctor.This is a one off,which is risky. I obey patient wish. Of course they'll have to sign that Consent Form to decline blood transfusion buy to me that looks like assisted suicide cos most of them die off and it makes us feel bad. These products like Epo are not cheap and readily available. How many Nigerians can afford optimal healthcare? |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 8:32am On Dec 07, 2025 |
AlphaTaikun: Indeed, the Car-T method of cancer treatment was used for her which itself is NOT "blood transfusion" in reality.
The main thrust of creating the thread is to share some of the alternative non-blood transfusion methods that have been available since the 1990s. I'm really surprised at the confirmation bias, and circular reasoning among a lot of uninformed posters here who think it's ONLY blood that you can medically use for transfusions. People have lost the urge to creatively read, take part in continuous education and understand situations through cognitive engagements.
If Erythropoietin (EPO) is readily available in that country (Nigeria), then that's OK. She can use that EPO as an alternative since it's one of several methods long recommended by her JW Church based off of the AWAKE magazine I read back in the 1990s. EPO is just one out of several forms of non-blood transfusions that doctors have recommended as alternatives.
Last but NOT least, I have NEVER been a member of JW neither am I a Christian BUT I know the JW adherents to be very educated folks who embrace modern scientific breakthroughs and good business ethics as seen in some of their AWAKE magazines that I still have in my home libraries since the 1990s. The JW folks indeed have a right of choice to choose what is BEST for them and do have a very STRONG point in the sense that improperly screened blood especially in developing countries and underdeveloped countries have led to the massive spread of HIV, Ebola, Marburg, Lassa Virus, hepatitis variants, and more. Auto transfusion,whether Car T or otherwise is still a type of transfusion. Your bible said don't take blood,it didn't specify if it's one's own blood or others |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 8:27am On Dec 07, 2025 |
AlphaTaikun: @dominique
I appreciate your pushing this important thread that I created to the NL front page. The new NL spam bot actually deleted the thread post yesterday which got me pissed off, BUT I was surprised to see just about I hour ago after I logged in that you had restored it and even moved it to the NL front page.
NOW, the main thrust of my posts on this thread and the other one is to simply share some of the non-blood transfusion methods that have been readily available since the 1990s that I'm aware of. BUT reading through this thread and the other one on the female shopper who is a JW member shows that a lot of posters are still highly ignorant about several alternatives to blood transfusions which doctors have long endorsed worldwide since the 1990s.
If one of the non-blood transfusion alternatives such as Erythropoietin (EPO) is readily available in Nigeria, then she can use that as an alternative since it's one of several methods recommended by her JW Church based off of the AWAKE magazine I read back in the 1990s. EPO is just one out of several forms of non-blood transfusions that doctors have recommended as alternatives.
Second, the JW folks have a right of choice and have a very STRONG point in the sense that improperly screened blood (especially in developing countries and underdeveloped countries) have led to the wide spread of HIV, hepatitis variants, Ebola, Lassa Virus, Marburg Virus, and other zoonotic diseases.
Cheers. I have had a heated debate with your member here MadMax. This procedure does not work for every patient,and even if the patient is eligible for the procedure, it may not be available or too costly. This Epo you talked about wouldn't work for acute blood loss example for a woman who had a baby and is bleeding profusely in Post Partum Hemorrhage. This is the commonest cause of maternal mortality and it's due to JW blood refusal. Also if a patient has had an accident and bleeding from major vessels like femoral,only a transfusion would save him. Same with babies with severe jaundice. Exchange blood transfusion is the only savior. Also Epo is about 30k (if it's available) and one needs several shots for blood loss of 1 pint,not to mention that it works after weeks So yes,blood transfusion is STILL a mainstay in management of blood loss globally |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:50am On Dec 07, 2025 |
bitbybit123: And a sister-in-law of mine took blood and still died. What about that and many like her? What was her case |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:49am On Dec 07, 2025 |
bixton: This can't be taken as blood transfusion since its still her own blood that was taken off her, re-engineered and put back into the body. Technically,she has disobeyed her god cos she has taken blood |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:47am On Dec 07, 2025 |
Thunderfayamods: And so? JW believes in science go and read Awake. Their beliefs is one of the reasons why such a science fest is evolving. Really? So they now believe in evolution?  |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:45am On Dec 07, 2025 |
JuanDeDios: Of course, that's the thing. During an argument, you select the cases that prove your point. Some people have recovered from illnesses (including cancer) without treatment at all. So no need for medical interventions, I guess. Show me folks that recovered from cancers WITHOUT ANY INTERVENTION. I'm waiting... |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:44am On Dec 07, 2025 |
grandstar: Yes, we accept no transfusion treatments.
Some doctors said that should be the standard. Many patients who aren't Jehovah's Witnesses prefer they be treated without a transfusion of blood. Are you aware of the mortality associated with no blood transfusion? And which doctors told you no-blood should be a standard? Just cos this particular one worked doesn't mean it always work. This auto transfusion doesn't even work for acute blood loss and it's not even available in most facilities, plus it may be too costly for people. Not everyone can afford all these procedures |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:41am On Dec 07, 2025 |
Hemanwel: It's an autoimmune disorder, if I am correct. Doctors in the house, I lie?? Cancers are not autoimmune in nature |
Health › Re: Jehovah's Witness Receives Blood Cancer Treatment Without Transfusion by jaephoenix(m): 7:40am On Dec 07, 2025 |
bitbybit123: Not only in USA, it can be done in Nigeria too, i have heard about those who did it in Nigeria before. Oh please stop lyyynn. That procedure cannot be done in Nigeria. Even plasmaspheresis is a problem never mind this. I am a doctor btw. You people should stop all this cos of religion |
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