Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 8:53am On Sep 10, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Because the Author of the Bible gave the yardstick and only our group is meeting up!  Yeah, remember the 'author' of the fairytale also said dont mol@st kids. Guess your group missed that part of the buybull |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 8:50am On Sep 10, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: They all support the killing of their oppositions even though such ones are their fellow believers in other countries. I gave you a scenario about a country that is 95% JW being faced by invasion by a nearby country. You gave a stupid reply. Lemme tell you something. Be happy that we all aint JWs. If not you, MadMax, EnemyJah and other JW fruitcakes would be overrun by Cameroun. Do you think if Cameroun knows that Nigeria is predominantly JW they won't attack and annihilate us? Bakassi won't be the only issue we would have with them. And the international community won't do much. France is always backing them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:06pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Can't be the yardstick for righteousness since no group is exempted!  … yet you say your group is the best |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:06pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: That’s the same excuse the Catholics use. Lol Its a regular theist theme |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:05pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: So in a nutshell Catholics are the father of the orthodox churches and their members don't see anything wrong in killing neighbours even if such neighbours are their members?  So? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:03pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: False accusations Another story from your twisted source MadMax said they happened but every organization have crazies. You say they never happened and they are liars. Lol. You guys have to get your shit together and stick to one. I know one of you is lying(which is a regular feature for JWs) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 8:59pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Leads To Atheism by jaephoenix(m): 8:58pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: What fact do you have? I asked you again: Are your ancestors atheists?  No. Whats your point? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 8:56pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: Then let wait till that 50 years when it would become natural. We can simply call it now beyond science or supernatural
What if in 50 years time scientists actually said some phenomena is supernatural? What would you do? Like we keep on pointing out. Some phenomena were said to be supernatural years ago but these days are natural. Like lightning, epidemics etc. Science has a way of getting the answers to these supernatural questions as they develop more tools for research. Give it time and science fixes it |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 8:54pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: Don't atheists have philosophy on how to be good? Yes or No? No. Many atheists have their own worldviews. However many atheists are humanists that is always be good to the next person |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 8:52pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: Facts is never only opinions of any belief systems. This does not make me a theist. Try to know the truth about not only religion but also in world. The world or universe cannot just be explained with scientific proofs alone. Did you know about quantum physics I know about Quantum Physics and Quantum Mechanics. We are even trying to build Quantum Resistant Blockchains in crypto |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 7:19pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: You supplied a dumb response. You're more ignorant than I thought Check the question that was asked. See your reply!!! You asked if I see any evidence of orderliness or purpose in the universe. And I replied if you have an ordered and purposeful universe before. You need a template or control for your assumption. So the answer is correct. For example if you say a room is clean and neat, you must have seen a clean and neat room before. Savvy? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 7:17pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: How does this answer the questions being asked? Since you know science has no answers to everything, don't you think it's illogical to conclude about things? What if science comes out today that all you know is a lie What would you do Ok. I agree science has answers to some phenomena. But it doesn't acknowledge the supernatural. Maybe because it doesn't have the knowledge or equipment to tackle it. So do you think science should do more to address the supernatural? If you do, then you have to define 'supernatural'. Because what is supernatural today may be natural in 50 years |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 7:13pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak:
Atheists hold certain beliefs or philosophies about life, ethics, and the universe? Do you agree with it? Atheism means belief in no god. Which translates to no demons, spirits, etc. Atheism doesn't approve any philosophy. Many atheists hold differing philosophies. Maybe you'll have to explain the specific philosophies. And I defo don't know about any ethics. We aint an organization |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 7:10pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: It seems you don't understand the question properly. Let me explain it to you briefly; Scientists have discovered that the universe has just the right things in it, like stars, planets, and gravity, for life to exist. Scientists think it all these happened all by itself over a really, really long time. They called it, "fine tune". Try to comprehend before you rush to respond. Your response is against the scientific explanations. This is pure contradiction of your belief system. 1. Gravity is inimical to human existence. 2. Can you be more specific on 'just the right things'? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 5:00pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
Iamanoited: MIRACLES ARE SUPERNATURAL POWERS AND THEY HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. Any proof? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:29pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: Is it possible that there are aspects of reality that are beyond the scope of current scientific understanding? How do you respond to the idea that atheism itself is a belief system, and how do you justify its claims? What do you mean by 'belief system'? Atheism simply means no belief in a god or supreme being or supernatural. There is no belief system, sire |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:27pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: Is it possible that our limited human understanding and scientific knowledge may not fully explain the mysteries of existence? Does Science claim have answer to all questions? Science hasn't and would never claim knowledge of everything. It only attempts to know. Science tends to improve on itself regularly. But it doesn't acknowledge the supernatural. Lemme explain. In medical science, if a patient presents to me and says, "Oh, I have a big hump on my back, please cut it off" and has no such hump, do I say, "Oh there is no physical evidence of the presence of this hump, however, let me assume there may be a hump since we can't see it physically but spiritually it may be there"? No. Why? Because science(medical science in this case) doesn't care about your spiritual bullshit. I can bundle that patient to the psyche ward and manage him for schizophrenia. That's how we roll. Thank you |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:19pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: Do you see any evidence for purpose or design in the natural world, or is everything the result of blind chance and natural processes? How do you know a designed natural world. Do you have a perfect model u can compare as a control? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:17pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: How do you explain the fine-tuning of the universe for life without invoking a creator? The Universe isn't fine tuned for life. Our body isn't perfect |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:17pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: I'm sorry to disappoint you. I'm not a Christian.
I am so busy right now. I think you really have time You don't need to be a Christian to be a theist sympathizer. You're one step away from being a Christian |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:16pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
gisevak: can you answer the question i asked you? Scientists can't check for supernatural since they don't have the skills or equipments for it. So do you have the skills and equipments for researching the supernatural? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:14pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: Reading this, one wouldn’t know this clown swears by Hebrew mythology and bullshit. That's why I said s/he should say yes or no, and not all those long talk. S/he dey change mouth like kilode. Next thing she'll say that is not what she meant. She's truly a Junkie. That her moniker is a Freudian slip |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:10pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
[quote author=MindHacker9009 post=125673084][/quote]Lol. Why get so touchy? I’m just telling you what I saw in a vision. Or don't you believe me? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:08pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: What reason is there for me to believe it?  No reason. Just a question. Just like if somebody asks if you love fish or meat. Doesn't mean I'll give you either to eat |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Leads To Atheism by jaephoenix(m): 3:07pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: If you're free to say anything about me what hinders me from airing my opinion?
Ọmọ each person is free to express himself so whether you like it or not it's your own cup of coffee!  I say what I say based on facts. Not you. Opinions are different from axioms |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Leads To Atheism by jaephoenix(m): 3:01pm On Sep 09, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: You talk stupidly theese days like saying biafra started from the Federick Foresythe book "Emeka"! Your point? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Leads To Atheism by jaephoenix(m): 10:25am On Sep 09, 2023 |
iamrealdeji: That's what Christianity does to people. If I was Christian and studied philosophy too,I probably would have been atheist if I hadn't known Islam. Bible and Christianity is full of loopholes and lies that would make a reasonable person think there is no God. How can you tell me a woman got pregnant and gave birth to God and son of God at the same time. Now,that God ate,slept,did everything human does,even once got to a tree he wanted to pluck from and didn't know if there were fruits from which he was expected to know if he was God or God lives in him. That same God reached age 33 and he was held like a criminal and he couldn't rescue himself. Until he was crucified and killed,a whole God that created trillions upon trillions of stars in one galaxy out of uncountable galaxies and a star being bigger than the sun which is 1.3million times bigger than the earth can't save himself from people he created? He was in Jesus and can't save himself from those people? If I question it,you would tell me I need holy spirit to understand. Anything that is difficult to understand or not straight forward is fake. Whoever wrote this rubbish in bible should be arrested for blasphemy. Christianity is based on blasphemy. If you claim Prophet Jesus is God's son,can you sacrifice your son to wipe away the sins of some people? Does God need anybody's blood to forgive? God isn't a ritualist, that's blasphemy. The writers of bible stuck the mindset of Idol worship in their brains. Chief Tele of a prominent town in Nigeria here is sent to carry sacrifice that may be human beings to a forest to wipe away the sins of the people of the community because they're Idol worshippers and that's what they believe in. There are many Muslim sociologists,philosophers and scientists that stronger in their Islamic faith because there are so many facts in Quran that correlate with science,also Prophet. Muhammad ﷺ 's hadiths and science and numerous numerical miracles in Quran that would make you realize Islam is the only way and make you 100% sure there is God and that's why Islam is world's fastest growing religion. I don't blame these guys,they would rather stay at home than go to some churches some pastors would collect large part of their hard earned money and they claim it's like that in bible,meaning that business oriented people wrote bible. Now,pastors own Private Jets,Rolls Royces. I've never seen any Imam with Private Jet. These philosophers don't know what to read out of the very many versions of bible. Christians worship the man they idolize which makes it Idol worship and they would still claim Idol worship is bad,Buddha was a good man like Christ and Buddhism was formed and named after him just like Christianity was named after Christ,it's totally man made and Idol worship. Buddha,Ogun,Jesus,Sango,Ganesha,Krishna worshippers have their statues and pictures they pray to because they're idol worshippers,the others admit they're idol worshippers but Christians fail to accept and instead package their faith,that's hypocrisy. Change christians,Jesus was a Prophet of God and not God,he was Muslim because he worshipped one God and never told anybody to call him God,stop reading lies some humans wrote,all major prophets have extraordinary miracles. In fact,Prophet Muhammad ﷺ did more miracles than Prophet Jesus and yet said any body that dares call him God like they did Prophet Jesus is going straight to hell. These are some of his miracles https://islamhashtag.com/15-miracles-of-prophet-muhammad/ Even during the birth of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ,more than 10 great miracles occured that have never been seen. Christians,change!!! God Punished Judas by giving him Jesus'appearance because you can't betray God's messenger and go scott-free. Judas was the one that was arrested and crucified,not Jesus. If Shina Rambo and armed robbers can take form of other people,how can't God who owns all the power do that? Prophet Jesus was never crucified or killed, Allah's great Prophet would never be killed like a chicken like that,God took him to heaven,Prophet Muhammad ﷺ saw Prophet Jesus in heaven when he ascended to heaven to meet God during his Miraj. He even discribed Prophet Jesus' appearance on his return,that's a story for another day. Muslims even like Prophet Jesus more than Christians do,If you live someone,you act and dress like him,If a Muslim is going to mosque,he would put on Jalabia like Prophet Jesus,a Christian would never wear Jalabia to Church. Muslims wash themselves with water and touch their head on the ground to one God and bow to one God like Prophet Jesus because Prophet Jesus was muslim. Muslims grow their beards like Prophet Jesus,christians would shave it,Muslim women wear hijab like Prophet Jesus'mother but a christian woman would never wear hijab to Church trying to look like Prophet Jesus'mother,all they want from Prophet Jesus' is use him to get to Paradise after so many sins. Lazy people that can't serve God by Praying 5 times a day want shortcut,easy way out. Prophet Muhammad ﷺ went to God and collected 5 daily prayers and God sent Angel Gabriel to him when he got to back to earth to teach him properly and make it more defined and organized than the way previous prophets used to pray it. Christians,try to pray it,be humble,stop singing and dancing and clapping to God,put your heads on the floor for God God never told anybody to sing and dance because music is devil's instrument,that's why christian women dance with their boobs and ass shaking,giving men erection,God would never be part of that or have anything to do with devil's instrument. You even worship without washing your body,urinate without washing and still pray?God may accept your prayers because he said it in Suratul Fathia. Even wishes of atheists get granted by God. Everything non-muslims do in this world,they would get the rewards in this world,they may get healings,wealth and all that but not in the afterlife. And yet upon that,Muslims are the richest in history with no much stress because of our powerful Quranic verses. Mensah Musa is the richest man of all time and was Muslim. Prophet Solomon worshipped one God which makes him Muslim. Saudi Royal family are richer than Elon Musk,MBS is richer than Musk,they're muslims. Aliko Dangote is a Muslim,Al-Hassan Dantata was a Muslim. The Golf Arab countries are the richest regions in the world because they're the places Prophet Muhammad ﷺ was born and spent his life. His blessed self was born in Saudi Arabia,Saudi has Aramco,world's richest company. He stepped his blessed feet around Golf Arabian deserts,his blessings went through to neghboring countries like Dubai,Kuwait,Abu Dhabi,Qatar,Bahrain,Oman,etc Your worship style and human worship is totally invalid,you're just wasting your money on pastors instead of you to give directly to people as God instructed in Quran. God sent Prophet Muhammad ﷺ to all you human worshippers,Krishna,Buddha,Ogun,Jesus,Sango,etc worshippers to worship only one God. Repent now and stop implicating Jesus before God by calling him God because in Quran,Jesus will get asked by God "Did you tell them to worship you and your mother? and he would say no and deny christians like bad market. If you say Jesus isn't God but you're still a christian,just convert to Islam and pray five times a day to God because that's what Islam is based on,believing there is only one God and Jesus was just a prophet. God said his punishment is very tough and human worshippers are going to hell 🔥🔥🔥🔥,there reward is in this world and their prayers can only get answered in this world because God does that to create a balance. Even atheists get blessed in this world which is very short. But hereafter,God's punishment is severe to human worshippers. Don't tell me about terrorism and all that. In Islam,If you intentionally kill a human being of any religion,the sin is equal to that of killing the all human beings. All religions have terrorists,Hitler,Napoleon,Josef Stalin,etc were Christians and the biggest terrorists ever. Don't tell me about Prophet Muhammad ﷺ marrying a lady so young,bring a verse that says that in Quran which is the only scripture of Islam. Hadith writers are humans,there are many incorrect accounts of hadiths and even if Prophet Muhammad ﷺ married a young lady,it's Common in those days for men to marry young ladies and those ladies grew way more mature than ladies of now and even prophet didn't have anything with her,he left her to mature enough before anything. Mary had Jesus at age 12. Most christian teenage girls are on family planning already today and already turned to harlots before age 15 because they marry late. The Chrisland girl is just 10 years and from a good Christian home. *Islam is world's fastest growing religion according to google. *Prophet Muhammad ﷺ was named as the most influential and greatest man to ever exist according to google and several christian authors. *Prophet Muhammad can solve all the problems of this world while just drinking a cup of coffee. *Prophet Muhammad's name is mentioned billions of times daily and he's prayed for by billions of people worldwide daily. If you're hating in him,deal with it, someone who is the greatest is the greatest Lol. This is a classic example of pot calling kettle black. I dont even know where to start. I hope OP is just trolling. Its too funny to be serious. Lol  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Leads To Atheism by jaephoenix(m): 10:21am On Sep 09, 2023 |
izonborn098: They kill millions of people in the old testament and later kill his own son to please satan... Wrong! He killed his own son to appease himself. Leave poor old Satan alone  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Leads To Atheism by jaephoenix(m): 10:19am On Sep 09, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Atheism simple means self-worship!
As long as you're truly open minded to reason about faith in God Christianity is the one and only true religion but the activities of false religionists claiming Christians have blurred the senses of people like you from seeing the light. I was a Muslim before i became one of the true Christians: Jehovah's Witnesses If you and i should sit together to reason about faith in God you will be surprised to see hidden treasures in real Christianity not what Arabs infused in the minds of our people only to make them worship their black stone in Mecca!  Another definition pulled out from his rich and ever resourceful ass. All hail the MadMax |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:15am On Sep 09, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Can you name any group of people where you can't find a pedophile?  This is beside the point I was making with EnemyJah |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 018 Who Is An Atheist For Real? by jaephoenix(m): 10:13am On Sep 09, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Were you born an atheist or you chose to be one?
Before you decided do you have things you forbids because of your faith that you now does as you've discarded the idea of a God?
That is what i mean. Nobody is born and brought up without some forms of religiosity we only grow up to update or format it.  Care to rephrase this gibberish? |