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MaxInDHouse:
Were you born an atheist or you chose to be one?

Before you decided do you have things you forbids because of your faith that you now does as you've discarded the idea of a God?

That is what i mean.
Nobody is born and brought up without some forms of religiosity we only grow up to update or format it.

Care to rephrase this gibberish?

Wilgrea7:
The second part of this doesn't make sense.

If I don't believe in the existence of a deity, then my actions are not based on what the unknown hypothetical deity approves or forbids. That doesn't mean I go out and specifically do what said supposed deity forbids.

It means the opinions (positive or negative) of an entity whose existence is unknown to me, has no bearing on the thought process that guides my actions.

I hope I've been able to simplify it enough for you

MadMax engine does not run on logic. You're wasting time

MaxInDHouse:
You hate the truth but that won't stop me from rubbing it in your face!

What truth?

Kobojunkie:
Now you resort to rambling... what trap are you yapping about now.

I made clear from about my 3rd or 4th post to you that subjective data is not meant to be believed or trusted --- consistently pointed out you have to be high on something to expect me to believe or trust in any experience that I never had myself. Now you resort to twisting the conversation to make it seem we were into some argument? Abegi Waka pass me with that nonsense!

No. You would have simply said yes or no when I asked you . I know how you roll. You can change positions in a twinkling of an eye

KnownUnknown:
First you prove that there is no leprechaun sitting on his shoulder.

That's how mental cases start. We have patients in psyche wards telling us physicians that there are higher beings sending them on errands. And that we can't see them. One of them insisted that he'd stand up throughout the night as instructed, and the nigga did! Stood up like a statue.
Now a nigga here on Nairaland is telling me some supernatural can exist and that the burden of proof lies with me, not him. SMH

gisevak:
I have appropriate information to know that you are not sitting beside me physically!!!
Have scientists proven that supernatural phenomena do not exist?
On what basis do you reject supernatural phenomena?
Is it by what you read in books or what you were?

Ok. We're getting warm. So you have no evidence that I'm beside you spiritually. So you don't know. Do you believe that the Flying Spaghetti Monster created the world? And he did it in just 2 minutes?

gisevak:
Before I respond to some of your quotes, I would like to ask you what your philosophical beliefs are. Are you an atheist?

Yup

gisevak:
I think you're here to score cheap points. I don't think you understand my point. I think it is illogical to draw conclusions without verifiable facts and to reject the supernatural. Please read everything I have mentioned and learn. It seems that your idea of  supernatural is tied exclusively to the religious idea. Prove to me that there are no supernatural phenomena.

This is just like a theist saying “prove to me there is no god" which is a bullshit question. He who alleges must provide evidence. And what idea of supernatural is outside religion?
It looks like your scientific knowledge is poor. For you to insinuate that dreams, sleep, gravity etc are supernatural suggests how much knowledge you lack

Kobojunkie:
Now you resort to rambling... what trap are you yapping about now.

I made clear from about my 3rd or 4th post to you that subjective data is not meant to be believed or trusted --- consistently pointed out you have to be high on something to expect me to believe or trust in any experience that I never had myself. Now you resort to twisting the conversation to make it seem we were into some argument? Abegi Waka pass me with that nonsense!

So why was it very difficult for you to come out and say yes or no? What is more difficult? Typing this lengthy reply or simply saying yes or no?
Why scared?

Kobojunkie:
What reason is there for me to believe it?

Lol. I feel your pain at getting caught in your own trap. All these deflections won't work.
Next time, don't get into arguments with me if you cannot reason properly. Ciao

jaephoenix:
This is my own confession too. I swear it happened.
I was in the spirit minding my own business when a hand dragged into into the depths of the ocean. I think Atlantic Ocean by the size. I felt I was gonna drown and was struggling til I felt peace. Then I opened my eyes to a glorious sight. Lucifer himself seated on a sparkling throne with his angels surrounding him. He asked me what I was doing there. Told him I don't know. Then he beckoned to me to follow him. I was initially afraid but was like, whats the worst thing that can happen? Went with him and he showed me the world just like he showed Jesus. He said all this is mine. I rule eternally. He said if I worship him, I'll rule with him. I asked him if I would die again. He said no. I told him I agree. Then his angels gave me clothes of shimmery light(I was butt naked) and I wore it and became dazzling like them.

To be continued….

By the way, you ignored my vision here. Why?

MindHacker9009:
You are the one babbling and just pretending the supernatural does not exist when you've seen women screaming of visions while praying and you think they are just playing.

And right now I'm screaming my lungs off in a vision. I see that you'll die tomorrow. Take heed

Kobojunkie:

Why won't you believe me, Junkie. Be straightforward please.

Kobojunkie:
Believe in subjective data? Are you awake at all? We already had this conversation. I am not being slippery... rather you are being silly.

Right. So you wont believe me. Cool. May I ask why?

MindHacker9009:
Because I had a first hand experience with a strong white garment member was why I have mentioned them, but the truth is that any strong church member is deep into the supernatural unless the person is just naive as all church in Nigeria are from white garment churches or missionary churches who themselves are into to supernatural too like from the video and from the photo of wat if under the first official church that all churches decended from today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq-ijPJt-hs

This is the third time I'm gonna ask you and last time.
What is this first hand experience you've been babbling about ?

MindHacker9009:
I'm not scared but I'm just not naive anymore that people cannot communicate with the supernatural, which makes me to now beleive this confession below:


Here is a confession by a pastor called chidubem okwu who narrated his life story of how he was initiated into occultism by his General Overseer senior friend and mentor. He talked of how he went to the Bar Beach in Lagos one night and slept with a mermaid physically and thereafter the mermaid made the sign of the cross on her head touching her vagina the mermaid left me went to the general overseer and brought out a golden cross and chain from her stomach and wore it on the neck of the general overseer who gave her some money the mermaid thanked him and went back to the sea.
And from then on he too began to operate in powerful “gifts” of “touch and fall”, “look and follow”etc. The only thing the mermaid told him was that he had to renew the power once a month by sleeping with a virgin and married women.

Source:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlcJQtXxX1I

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This is my own confession too. I swear it happened.
I was in the spirit minding my own business when a hand dragged into into the depths of the ocean. I think Atlantic Ocean by the size. I felt I was gonna drown and was struggling til I felt peace. Then I opened my eyes to a glorious sight. Lucifer himself seated on a sparkling throne with his angels surrounding him. He asked me what I was doing there. Told him I don't know. Then he beckoned to me to follow him. I was initially afraid but was like, whats the worst thing that can happen? Went with him and he showed me the world just like he showed Jesus. He said all this is mine. I rule eternally. He said if I worship him, I'll rule with him. I asked him if I would die again. He said no. I told him I agree. Then his angels gave me clothes of shimmery light(I was butt naked) and I wore it and became dazzling like them.

To be continued….

Kobojunkie:
Why do you need me to believe you?

I don't need you to believe me. Just asking if you'll believe. Its a yes or no question. No need to be slippery when you're caught in your own web

LikeAking:
We’re ever you are there must be a shrine or powerful occultic men or women..

Try them and see first…

Again, I say I don't know. If you do, tell them they have a challenger. Shoot me a DM and we'll arrange a meet. I'm in Lagos. Please be real. I have a couple of weirdos here telling me the same shit and they ended up fake.
And when we do this challenge, it'll have to be live, either on Tiktok, Instagram, Facebook etc. And in an open place, so there won't be any tricks. Lemme know the deets of the arrangement if you are serious.
Thank you.

Kobojunkie:
What good would reading it do for you or to you though since it is subjective?

Okay. So if I tell you I swam with mermaids and landed in your glass of water, would you believe me?

MindHacker9009:
Don't blame these adults joor they are still small children, who feel the supernatural does not exist, they have not had an experience yet that will make them to believe. I was like them too before till many years after I was with a jezebel that my eyes were finally opened that the events I was seeing and experiencing were not natural. When I first met this jezebel she told me she goes to a white garment church and that they go to the bar beach to pray, to me I just thought these women with they stories, also she told me they have woleys (not sure about the spelling) now I have realised they are their fortune tellers in their white garment church. If I did not have the experience I had with this jezebel I too will be saying here too that people don't have access to the supernatural.

Whats scary about going to Bar Beach to pray? Pentecostals go to mountains. Some go to thick bushes or jungles. Cele or whoever go to Bar Beach. Why are you scared? Why aren't you scared of the mountain goats?

MindHacker9009:
Okay if you are not in a serious relationship right now and you want to experience it go and befriend a strong white garment female member for some years and then come back and share your experience if it's gibberish.

Ok. Maybe I have to chip in my story a lil bit.
I was raised pentecostal but during my early years, up to secondary school, my parents were 'white garment church' folks. Precisely Cherubim and Seraphim. And whats more? We were regular folks. And I saw regular folks? We had footwear unlike the Cele equivalent, who walked around barefoot, but people don't know the difference. We had sara aka where they cooked some delicious rice and chevron almost every every weekend. And they shared fruits especially banana. Only odd shit I saw was when they start praying and someone sees a 'vision'. And the visionary is always women. And she pops up front screaming about her vision. It partly scared and amused my 7 year mind. And they used to go to mountains and bush clearings (their version of wildernesses) to fast and pray. That was the only 'scary' shit about what garment folks. Oddly enough, I see those features (screaming of visions while praying, and praying in wilderness and mountains) now creeping into pentecostals.
So bro, there's nothing scary about them. Its all in you guys mind. I told my wife I was ex-cherubim and she told me plain she wouldn't have married me. Lol. She's from orthodox extraction (Methodist) and echoes the exact fears you do. Those guys(white garment) are just another theist branch. They don't do 'jazz', or the stupid shit y'all accuse them of. Yes they kill goats of sundays for our meat, but that's all. And the goats aren't sacrificed .
So I would gladly date a white garment lady(if I was single) or have one as side chick(if I wanna do sugar daddy). Thank you

MaxInDHouse:
You gave yourself the tag and defined what it means, i helped broaden your view regarding those who don't believe in the existence of God but you can't put a tag on others who didn't welcome it such is unwarranted!

You broadened my views or you dug into your ever resourceful ass and brought out a definition that only you and your organization believe in? Really?

Aemmyjah:
An atheist
Olodo

So I'm right. Thank You

Kobojunkie:
Share what exactly?

Your 'supernatural' experience?

MindHacker9009:
Don't blame these adults joor they are still small children, who feel the supernatural does not exist, they have not had an experience yet that will make them to believe. I was like them too before till many years after I was with a jezebel that my eyes were finally opened that the events I was seeing and experiencing were not natural. When I first met this jezebel she told me she goes to a white garment church and that they go to the bar beach to pray, to me I just thought these women with they stories, also she told me they have woleys (not sure about the spelling) now I have realised they are their fortune tellers in their white garment church. If I did not have the experience I had with this jezebel I too will be saying here too that people don't have access to the supernatural.

You keep on babbling about your experiences and yet you haven't said anything despite being prompted. The thread is in its 3rd page, you still dey talk gibberish

LikeAking:
If I carry you go shrine you go burn am?

Dem go allow u…

No worry..

I would. And we'll publicize it and add a wager, say #50,000 for wasting my time and for teaching you a lesson that juju things are rubbish

Kobojunkie:
Yes, I have!

Care to share?

Aemmyjah:
Same you that said you'd have joined the cos they are clean and don't kill
Is that true in times of conflict?
Instead of arguing that, he finds fabricated stories of twisted ones

1. I never said Catholics don't kill. I believe u r literate and can read. Read my post carefully without your JW tinted glasses.
2. So they are fabricated? All the stories are lies? Interesting.
Well, MadMax himself admits his organization harbors child mol@sters and defends them by saying everybody does it. So you figure MadMax is truly mad?

Aemmyjah:
Now I see that your sense is very backwards
Very very backwards

Reply the post. Don't deflect

Aemmyjah:

Keep posting na
Keep looking for the deeds done by the 'twisted' ones

… .and they are many. Your organization breeds all sorts of child mol@sters. Why?

MaxInDHouse:
90% of soldiers claiming Christians around the world are Catholics that's why it's always their religious leaders called Chaplains that leads the prayers session during wars!

You can't argue this with anyone go and make your own findings.

I'm not saying there's no child molesters in JWs that's the problem in advance countries and there's no religion or group that's unaffected but as for trained killers: NO! that's totally out of order among us and we are preaching against it incessantly!

Lol. Chaplains praying for soldiers doesn't make the soldiers Catholic. Organizations like the army recognize orthodox religions and thus prefer to call chaplains to pray for soldiers and give them false morales. Doesn't mean the soldiers themselves are Catholics. They may all be protestants for all you know. Lol, you're indeed MadMax

Kobojunkie:
Why in the world would you need to trust subjective data?

Good. Have you experienced any 'supernatural' phenomena?