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magzey:
That's a blatant lies , God is with Nigeria if not we could have been like a war torn country by now

Sorry bro.
So who protects relatively irreligious countries like Nederlands, UK etc that don't pray to Yahweh but are much peaceful than Nigeria?

bonnyhope:
The explanation is that they have put their brains to work than others

Do you understand now?

So what is the use for prayers?

ufotunang:
.....for me I am not against prayer..me too I also pray...but when it comes to development of a country prayers alone cannot do much without applying work or good goverance..it's just like a bad road and you pray to God for this bad road to be rehabilitated and constructedd and done.... after the prayers will God come down from heaven and construct the bad road for you?....it's the still the government or people that will still have to rehabilitate and construct the bad road to be good and good for people to use..that is the work and good goverance I am talking about..God will not come down from heaven and rehabilitate and construct the road after you have prayed to God about the bad road

Lol
Do I have to keep on quoting your buybull for you?
Righteousness exalteth a nation, not hard work. This is according to your Bible. Not me. So unless you feel your bible is lying, you guys have nothing to say

Acidosis:
"Eternal glory."

Now you would need at least 10 years of consistent grooming in the word of God to understand this term.

Translation: I'm talking gibberish and I don't know how to explain this rubbish
I feel you

Acidosis:
What am I suppose to do with this verse? Convert "heal their land" to "silicon valley"?

The verses contradict what you said

BigDawsNet:
No 1, god can be dead I don't really care.. I serve a living God, and his alive before any of us were born.. his yesterday, today and forever..

No 2, I don't need to show you any statistics.. I relocated to the US some years ago and when I got here.. I realise majority of Americans belive in God and they pray in dia own comfort.. they don't go to church because they don't think its necessary or they are always busy.. but they acknowledge the most high.. even tho they don't really pray for request since the government has done it alrdy... they pray for God to keep them alive...

No 3 The king's heart is like a stream of water directed by the LORD ; he guides it wherever he pleases. 1 Good leadership is a channel of water controlled by God; he directs it to whatever ends he chooses... our God is not an evil God.. all power belongs to him and he will never forsake us.

No 4. Prayer without work is dead.. God is not a magician.. you have to have purpose for prayer.. In the scripture.. the bible said, "work & pray" .. the Nigerian government refuse to create more jobs in Nigeria.. and you expect God to do what exactly? God should come down and construct new organisation or manufacturing company for u?... let the government do the right thing.. den pray... and see the result..

You don't study for exam and you praying to pass? Are u whining yourself?.. why don't u study.. Nd back it up with prayer...

1. This 'living god' only seems alive to you and some deluded folks only. No one ever sees or hears him.
2. The population of atheists are spiking daily in the US. More and more people are realizing your god is a nice scam and don't pray. That is why you don't have any stats to present to back your false claim up. The stats from this OP says it all
3. Same Yahweh that hardened Pharaoh's heart so he can have an excuse to murder all the Egyptian first born? Besides if the heart of the King is in Yahweh hand, why can't he direct ordinary Nigeria president to govern without corruption? Its 63 years of prayers and Yahweh is powerless to change a mortal's heart
4. Yahweh actually said pray and it shall be so. Havent you read them verses? Or you need me to quote the several verses he said so? All these work and pray rubbish is contradicting what Jesus said

grandstar:
Here's another

https://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1578074,00.html

copy the entire url and paste it

Thanks

BRATISLAVA:
That's true.

But why all the loratidine etc over something that will clear up on its own? Plus ibuprofen? Does conjunctivitis hurt? Thought it's more of a dirty disease.

If you notice, I added viral conjunctivitis (aka Apollo by laymen) to my differential diagnoses. It presents with eye grittiness which may explain the ibuprofen.
I'm not defending his prescription tho. There were mistakes there.
By the way, hope you know viral conjunctivitis is now prevalent. Take precautions

porthouse7:
I no Dey visit hospital

I know. That's why I told you good luck when you go to your pastor or herbalist with medical conditions like uterine rupture, or if your baby is unconscious or convulsing

porthouse7:
u need it more

I don't have a uterus and I'm physician. So sweetie u need the luck, not me

grandstar:
See below. That is deaths in America alone.

https://www.gilmanbedigian.com/doctors-bad-handwriting-causing-fatal-injuries/

Thanks.
However I clicked on the link about the 7k mortality and it was broken. It led nowhere.
Besides that is not a medical or scientific site, so I take their info with a truckload of salt

LeoDeKing:
So you don't even trust your doctor? Why then did you go to him?

Then a random pharmacist who may not even know the doctor will quickly key into the doctor's plan to commit murder and all after, destroy evidence.

Start treating yourself and avoid doctors. Don't even allow any surgeon to operate on you or any of your relations if the need arises.

The dude is obviously a hater. So I just ignored him

BRATISLAVA:
Because of the eye drops? Could be, but clearly they're having some sort of allergy or anaphylactic symptoms.

Could be allergic, vernal or viral conjuctivitis

FxMasterz:
They don't want you to know the drugs, so that you wouldn't go and buy them for yourself next time you have the same ailment. They must keep collecting your money each time you consult them. They're trained to write like that. The pharmacists are also trained to be able to read it clearly.

I knew you'll apply the poor logical reasoning you apply in religious matters in your daily life.
Those handwritings are learned right from med school. Mine was right from pharmacology classes. Also from ward rounds. You have to keep up with rapid words of the lecturer or consultant. And s/he won't repeat himself for anyone. If you snooze, you lose.
And you as a patient reserve the rights to ask your doc the names and reasons for the drugs you take. Also ask for side effects. We are under obligations to tell you. If the doc declines, you can report or sue him or her

porthouse7:
na craze Dey worry dem, bunch of happy killers, I hate doctors more than police

I hope you go to your pastor or herbalist if you have a ruptured uterus. Good luck

FreeStuffsNG:
Smh. When you don't want the Pharmacist to intervene to correct the errors in your prescription, you better go to Pharmacy school first before you start writing prescriptions with errors. You want to be a drug expert obviously but you can not be one if you are not a Pharmacist.

The medication was compounded by a Pharmacist who knows what you want to achieve in the patient and immediately knows your complaints. Even for off-label use of any medication, the Pharmacist is your last line of defense and the Prescription is his/her property.

You're completely ignorant if you think the Pharmacist doesn't know your problem yet could formulate medication for that your problem. If you don't take advantage of his expert advice, na you sabi o.

On the errors, let me just leave it to the only one you figured. I only brought it up to let OP know why the handwriting is even like that. I am not getting into the petty Prescriber-Pharmacist gbosgbas joor.

Btw, it's not right that OP's prescription is shared on social media like this.

Bro, you may be a pharmacist but a physician is a physician. I know the possible drug-drug interactions even though you may know them more than me. But the point is we use different regimens to handle different clinical scenarios. If I make an error in my prescriptions and the pharmacist calls my attention to it, I make a point in thanking them properly. Sometimes its my regimen and I alone know more of the patient's pathology than you the pharmacy. So you need to learn too. In advanced countries, a pharmacist doesn't tamper with a physician's prescriptions. If you notice an irregularity, alert the physician, or worse, decline in dispensing the drugs. But don't tamper or tell the patient rubbish. Its only in Nigeria you see pharmacists changing prescriptions and causing chaos

Papayaayasager:
They do it on purpose so you takt ir to the pharmacy direct to avoid self medication.

For example:
The first one is chloramphenicol tablet 2days

Tablets? Thats eyedrop

litaninja:
For you and everyone saying this is professional, I'm here to inform you that this is peak unprofessionalism.
First, you are not supposed to prescribe an medicine to a patient without discussion the effects, possible side-effects and dosage with them. So how the f**k are you writing sh*t they can't see in prescriptions?
Try that nonsense in any 1st world country and see the outcome.

I discuss side effects with my patients, especially those including sedation and abdominal pains(which pertain to the index case) and I practice in Nigeria. I also tell them the names of the drugs(they have the rights to know). But I write my own prescriptions just like OP. So take it easy

grandstar:
It is estimated that 7,000 people die yearly due to illegible doctor's writing, so enemyofpeace's question has some validity in it.

Whoa. Can I see the source of the research?

FreeStuffsNG:
The handwriting is clear and legible to the Pharmacist enough that he can interpret and correct errors and intervene if the treatment goals are not clear or going to counter one another leading to wastage of time and resources. It is also necessary for regulatory filing just in case a case comes up

Most professionals do not have great handwriting. I have met few exceptions though and I still marvel at their beautiful handwriting till date.

In this prescription, there are already errors on it and a Pharmacist must intervene. If not, that patient is just wasting his time and money
Most people are in hospitals to manage the side effects of their medications and that's why you need the Pharmacist to see your prescription first and foremost even before getting and/or taking your medications. Prescription errors are not uncommon.

I know he made some errors, but everyone makes errors, pharmacists included. And sometimes we make some prescriptions that pharmacists dont understand the rationale. So if you see 'an error', try and run it by the physician and see if it is an actual priscription error

Enemyofpeace:
Can you read this handwriting? Does anyone understand what is written on the prescription form? Do they write like this deliberately for patients not to understand what they wrote?

Easy peasy.
Chloramphenicol eyedrops 2 drops 3 times daily for 1 week
Loratidine tab 1 tab 2x daily for 5 days
Piriton 1 tab at night for 3 days
Vitamin C 1 tab 3 times daily for 2 weeks
Tetracycline 500mg 3 times daily for 1 week
Ibuprofen tab 400mg 3 times daily for 5 days

My Deductions
1. The ibuprofen was asterixed probably he's afraid the patient is a Peptic Ulcer Disease or gastritis case. So its a tentative drug
2. This is a young doc. Probably less than 5 years. He made 3 prescription errors in the piriton(chlorpheniramine) and loratidine. And he appended tetracycline as tab instead of cap since it is in capsules(as far as I know. I haven't seen any tabs in my practice). He probably added the piriton as a sedative backup but ots still wrong.
3. This is a higher institution settings. I may be wrong here.
4. The patient diagnosis is probably pruritic viral conjunctivitis locally known as 'Apollo'(which is on a rampage now. I have seen 10 cases in this month in Lagos) . He should have used a different oral antibiotic like amoxyclav or cefuroxime instead of tetracycline.

All in all, the handwriting is pretty eligible. I have seen worse

waice6571:
It has been the major anchor of my life.... I may not be able to share my story online but, after a terrible betrayal from a friend and all that went down with it for more than 3 years of sorrows..... there was a total turn around in just 3months...
Thank God for faith and hope that sustained me.

You can have a turnaround without prayers. Happened to me severally when my wallet was hacked with 6m worth of crypto stolen and a platform I was using rug pulled.
Just like people in countries like UK, Netherlands who don't pray, I just manned up and took control of my life. I never prayed to any imaginary sky daddy.
Same with when my pops died.
You don't need prayers. Its useless

Yusufisraelj:
I laugh in Swahili, pray all you want you don't have ethics and morals, nothing changes.

However prayer remains the foundation for anything great. America and great Britain were prayerful countries at some point in time.

Prayerful countries you say?
So what about Saudi Arabia, China, Japan? How did they get great?

waice6571:
What exactly did you want God to for Nigerians during covid that he has not done? People died in their thousands in many advanced countries of the world...... Our government was envying the them because it would have given them perfect opportunity to beg for ventilators and financial aids.

You are missing the mark because you are substituting to responsibilities of your governments to that of God. You are the reason why you are poor not God.
PRAY and WORK is the correct order of faith.

1. In Nigeria(and many other 3rd world countries), we didn't have covid impact on us. Why?
First things first, the life expectancy in Nigeria is 50 years or so. In Italy, its 82, US its 77 and China 78. What it means is they generally outlive us, with better quality of life, because of better healthcare, food, air etc. So they have a higher percentage of elderly folks. And since they have better healthcare, old folks with debilitating diseases like heart, liver and kidney failures live longer. In Nigeria, most of these folks are already dead due to relatively poorer healthcare system. Now what covid did was wipe out all these elderly folks in these countries because those diseases reduce immunity. Since the population here is relatively young, the impact of covid was lessened. Old folks died for sure, but we didn't have the numbers we had like Italy had. Remember italy was severely ravaged then, but their young folks were still there, playing Serie A and shouting in the stadia. Worse still, they had hospices and old people's home where old folks are kept, so it was easy for covid to clear old folks.
The vaxxes did a job of helping the morbidity and mortality, but the virus started mutating and its variants are tormenting Chinese senior citizens . Covid never went away, bro. It just mutated/evolved to a more virulent strain. Back then we had Delta, before it mutated to Alpha and Omicron. And the more mutations it undergoes, the less virulent it is. So that means less troublesome symptoms like cough, breathlessness. But the drawback is it spreads easier now. Everyone now has it. Many have multiple infections in a month but the more infections the less troublesome the symptoms are(if it is the same strain).
Remember December 2021 people had catarrh and other respiratory symptoms which they attributed to the weather. That was the start of Omicron in Nigeria.
So next time people say BS, try and research and come to your own conclusion, and reduce our IPSI levels.
2. Its funny you are twisting what the bible said so it would be out of the line of fire.
Your bible clearly said

Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened Matthew 7:7-8

I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25)

And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14)

(Matthew 17:20 For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.

Not only that it literally said the above, your pastors and members also say the same thing. So wtf are you yammering about?
3. You said Pray and Work is the correct order, right?
What about Work and no Pray? Do you think it yields results?

DAramis:
40 percent of Christian doesn't translate to 40 percent of prayers. Majority of Christians don't pray that long aside Sunday gathering.

On the other hand, majority of Muslims prays 5 times a day including thier offsprings.

My verdict is still same (though my personal opinion )

Are you aware Nigerians are the only country people pray before and after board meetings, surgical procedures, markets etc.
So wtf do u mean?

dominique:
Yes they will do better than us because they are not liars and pretenders lile our people. Most of the Nigerians praying from morning till night are terrible human beings, using religion to mask their evil persona. They deserve God's wrath to the fullest

Well well well. So the same people you folks say are more morally decadent are now better than us? Interesting

DeAnonymousGuy:
We cannot downplay the importance of religion. Personally i feel the world would be in total chaos without religion.

Actually it is the other way round. Religion has brought war and conflict. Christianity gave us The Great Crusades, Huguenot Wars, Witch Trials of Europe and America etc. Islam gave us the Jihadist Wars.
So stuff your religion where the sun dont shine

minasu190:
I don't if this sounds well.
If God is for us, then why are we against ourselves?, no pure love, we are most prayerful country yet we are still in shambles

Still your bible says if god is for us, nobody can be against us(even ourselves)

DeAnonymousGuy:
Christianity as a religion gives room for both prayer and meditation. As each have separate spiritual benefits.

What does prayer do that meditations doesn't?

Daystar7:
You blind? U no see say all of em are head slamming terrorist countries?

Nigeria is 50% christianity

ogascomax:
In times past they were prayerful nations.

Looks like as they prayed less, they got better

waice6571:
Would you blame God for stupidity of your government?
Is it the responsibility of God to build our roads and other infrastructures? Is it the responsibility of God to come and barely and sorghum to feed our teeming population?

There's a place of God and the place of wisdom in the scheme of things.... if you failed to make use of God's provisions to improve your situation in life, then, salvation may be far away from you.

Some parts of Kogi, Benue, Plateau and other middle-belts states in Nigeria has the most fertile land that is enough to feed the entire Sub-Saharan West Africa if properly harnessed...

Is it the of God that we chose to borrow rather than cultivating the land? Is the fault of God that our government is borrowing from IMF, World Bank, Chinese Government, Paris Club and other places available without any infrastructure to show for it.

Is it not unfortunate that a banker in Nigeria will resign from his banking job to go and become a fruit picker in Canada? Is it not funny that a lecturer with PhD certificate in Nigeria is applying to become a truck driver in Canada?...

Summary, if not for the mercies of God, our government wants everyone to die so that they can cash out on our dead bodies.... Remember the days of COVID-19 and their daily fraudulent statistics not forgetting restriction of movements and nationwide palliatives scam.

You will not be right to blame God for the woes of this country... That would be a huge hypocrisy.

Lol. How did Yahweh help Nigeria in Covid?
Besides he said the heart of the king is in his hands. Obviously he doesn't give a fvck