MindHacker9009: Before I would have laughed at this confession below but now I believe it is 100% true as I have found out the hard way that demomic activities are real. I was naive before looking for Jesus Christ by trying different churches not knowing these are the people operating in all such places. Well I thank God Almighty whom I had to filter out from the diffrent God/gods in the Old Testament, that directed me to youtube where I found out that the Jesus Christ I have been looking for is a pagan idol invented by the Roman empire.
Here is a confession by a pastor called chidubem okwu who narrated his life story of how he was initiated into occultism by his General Overseer senior friend and mentor. He talked of how he went to the Bar Beach in Lagos one night and slept with a mermaid physically and thereafter the mermaid made the sign of the cross on her head touching her vagina the mermaid left me went to the general overseer and brought out a golden cross and chain from her stomach and wore it on the neck of the general overseer who gave her some money the mermaid thanked him and went back to the sea. And from then on he too began to operate in powerful “gifts” of “touch and fall”, “look and follow”etc. The only thing the mermaid told him was that he had to renew the power once a month by sleeping with a virgin and married women.
And you believe all this because someone said so? Without a shred of evidence? Whoa! I can as well create a youtube clip of how I fly to the US every night on wings and dine with Elon Musk, Bezos etc. Hope you believe me
MindHacker9009: How do you explain someone that has an evil spirit and the spirit of divination. I never believed this before and it made me to be naive and so I married a jezebel and I learnt serious lesson that there are people with evil spirits everywhere
Can you explain the symptoms of this 'evil spirit'?
Aemmyjah: You said Catholics would not kill and you'd have become one Now you are mentioning Buddha and Hindus as if they have not had history of conflict MaxInDHouse, you are very much needed. Pls come and rescue this guy from what is disturbing him
Aemmyjah: Max, do you have those tools to reset someone brain. Football neutrals are those who are fair minded and do not support or team nor against
Atheist that reject and oppose the existence of a Creator and see religion as a sham is playing neutral between religions? Ur mumu no too much? It is like a hardcore racist playing neutral in an affair between Nigerian and a Kenyan Go and download sense, because you are an atheist does not mean that everyone here are also stupid
Do you JWs have a problem against using dictionaries. I notice you, MadMax and 2 other JWs always get your definitions wrong. The literal definition of “atheist” is “a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or any gods,” according to Merriam-Webster. He or she doesn't reject or oppose the notion of a creator. Learn to use what's left of your destroyed brain
CanadaOrBust: Except, there is such a thing as placebo effect, which further complicates the whole issue - if you believe enough that prayers will heal you, prayers WILL heal you, even if the person praying for you is a criminal scammer! Hence instances where scammers are surprised and confused when they genuinely heal someone! There is more to this our reality than we know!
It doesn't complicate anything. Research on placebos. Lemme give an example. Someone has a headache. A pastor prays for him. Now if he believes the prayer works, he'll feel the headache gone, but the headache still returns hours or days later. We also use placebo effects in our therapy. A patient shows up with symptoms that you feel are not serious, like itchiness of the body(which you think is psychosomatic) , you prescribe something like blood tonic. The patient would feel relief. The relief didn’t come from the blood tonic but the mind. The human mind is a wild place
MaxInDHouse: That's why you need to read actions because it speaks louder than words.
Jesus is the leader as Christ it's his footsteps that Christians must follow {Hebrews 5:7} so can you quote anywhere Jesus used sword to attack or defend himself?
Ọmọ Jesus was speaking in idioms that's why his first century disciples never used swords to either attack or defend themselves after his ascension!
Really? That word is an idiom? Please explain how that verse is an idiomatic expression
CanadaOrBust: Well, you can’t say that because without the prayers the belief won’t be there. Just as throughout history people who sell fake cure-all potions have been confused by testimonies of people genuinely cured of incurable ailments by those same potions!
Lol. Dude, its still the placebo effect. If the fake cure-all 'works', then its an obvious placebo
MaxInDHouse: Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matthew 10:16
Jesus' disciples are sheep in the midst of wolves so they must be WISE as serpents and HARMLESS as dove!
Same bible that said this
Luke 22:36 KJV Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
As you can see, your buybull is full of doublespeaks. Thus why I raised this thread. Look around you. One religion, with one book with thousands of sects/denominations etc. An all knowing god cannot get his shit together and give his subject a book that is reliable. And what's worse? He knew there would be confusions in the book and people would be deceived but it still doesn't stop him from writing a bleeped up book
CanadaOrBust: Except, there is such a thing as placebo effect, which further complicates the whole issue - if you believe enough that prayers will heal you, prayers WILL heal you, even if the person praying for you is a criminal scammer! Hence instances where scammers are surprised and confused when they genuinely heal someone! There is more to this our reality than we know!
Obviously its a placebo effect. Prayers don't do diddly squat
MaxInDHouse: Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa! In a big market you will find different sections: Books, clothes, shoes, jewelries, beauty products, farming tools, animal foods and finally food stuffs. You are like a person who says he has nothing to do with food but is always found in the section of the market where different kinds of foods are sold.
On this forum there are numerous sections yet you who claims there is no God always comes into the section where people talking about God often converge.
Go and check your profile once again and see the section where you're most active yet you're saying to yourself "there is no God"
I believe you can read(hopefully) and write. I said I don't post in threads that does not talk about atheists or atheism. I didn't say I don't post in religious threads. So why do you post in Non-JW threads?
Aemmyjah: The people atheists would blame for all the wars, slavery and role in conflicts are this ones this baby atheist say would not kill. Russia and Ukraine are regarded as twins or sisters. Have you heard what the archbishop of the churches said regarding the wars What about the Crusades, Inquisition, Opium war? The nations that fought in the 2 world wars were predominately Catholic I am also an ex-pentecostal and felt Catholic would be the right place with God's approval but i did an unbiased research - too much blood in their history and a religion that play politics cannot be clean
Are you aware there non-conflict or anti-conflict Christian sects like Jains, Quakers? You think JWs are the only anti-conflicts Christians ? What about pacifist religions like Jains, Hindus, Buddhists etc?
Aemmyjah: An atheist calling himself a neutral in religious matters
I know definitions is a problem for JWs. Maybe they muddle up y'all English language in those Kingdom Halls. The definition of a neutral(in this context) is someone that is not involved in a topic or matter. There are football neutrals, music neutrals. In this case, as an atheist, I'm not involved in any religion, and wouldn't take sides. Thus I'm in a better position to arbitrate disputes between religions. You can't get a Christian to arbitrate in disputes between a Christian and Muslims, or Pentecostal and Catholics. There would be bias if you do that. Y'all JW should use a lil bit of your brains
According to the Bible the one and only proof of a Christian group is their ability to stay away from military action and politics.
As for scandals there is no religion on this planet that can stand out in that.
Jesus never promised that scandals won't be mentioned in the midst of his disciples because he is gathering sinners not righteous {Luke 5:32} so the one and only proof of Christ working with a group is their ability to settle matters amicably without resorting to military action! Matthew 10:16
I really think it is time we started a nation wide campaign to counter the nonsense our people are being fed by religious leaders.
Lol. In Africa? In Nigeria? A country that is 99% religious? A country its religious citizens would hate on or kill someone because that person is of a different denomination or religion? Dont try it! You're better off talking about religion in a faceless forum like Nairaland. Besides, most of them won't believe you, and its even dangerous
Dtruthspeaker: Because the Toyota factory in Japan or china produces the Camry, it is the maker of the Camry? See why I say you are plain craaazy and stupid?
MaxInDHouse: I'm here because of the mention of a title that has a lot to do with me but nothing to do with ATHEISM: "GOD"
Good. I jump into topics about Yahweh cos the Christians call out atheists. Notice I(and most atheists) only comment in few Christian threads. The threads they talk about how they worship, Night watch etc, I dont interfere. Get it?
MaxInDHouse: What about the adage that says: "actions speak louder than words"? That's the edge true believers have above all others. If you someone is your king surely all moróns will take you for your word but true believers will first consider what the supposed king say and closely watch how you concur, whatever makes you undermine or ignore the utterances of the one you call "king" shows you are lying. So i ask you again: What proof do you have that these people BELIEVE (TRUST) in a god?
Honestly with actions, I'd rate JWs lower scores in the 'Christianity ratings'. I'm a neutral here and an atheist(and an ex-pentecostal). The best christians would be Catholics. They are least discriminatory and least likely to hate or kill a non-catholic. Pentecostals are laced with hate, malice, deceptions etc. JWs are the most deceptive. Just like you. You keep telling us you're the best thing since sliced bread but your actions speak differently. With multiple reports of child mol@station and the way you people ignore them, I don't trust you. So if I was a Christian, I'd be catholic or one of these Orthodox denoms. They aren't perfect but they are slightly better
Image123: Like the OP said and like i just said, there are two paths or sources of dreams. Not every dream is significant. The Bible teaches that dreams may come from the spirit or from the physical realm (mind and behaviour).
Ecc 5:3 KJV For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.
LoLz, you most likely don't even believe that there's anything like spiritual realm so make i quit wasting saliva and ink already, lol.
The problem about this spiritual realm thingy is you have nil shred of evidence it exists. You were told about it as a child, grew up believing it, reinforced by others around you, yet no data. And what is worse, every Christian denomination/sect have their own version of this spiritual stuff, each clashing with the other's view, each claiming superiority. Same as religion as a whole. Even the Bible verse you quoted says dreams come through 'multiple businesses' which can be translated to mean absolutely anything. Oh, the beauty of religion
Image123: Most of it doesn't even need understanding in the sense. It's like studying excreta, not ALL need to be studied or understood. There's purpose and time for it. When you do want to study or understand dreams, you look at it either spiritually or psychologically, because they are sourced from either the spirit or the mind/behaviour, not from some laboratory.
Good. So now you say dreams are sourced spiritually, how did u come about this? Do you have evidence? What if i say dreams come from eating eba late at night and expect you to believe me, would you and why not?
MightySparrow: All we read today in the Bible are personal testimonies
My life is the proof.
To me, it strengthens my faith and makes me to encourage others.
Do you have testimonies about God's power? I bet you don't. You have arguments and reasons why your God is incapable. His capabilities ended with the apostles. My own Jesus is real, ready, and constant. Hebrews 13: 8.
1. The stories in the bible have been proven to be just stories: no shred of evidence suggesting they happened. If you have any evidence, do let us know 2. What about your life that constitutes proof of Yahweh? 3. And no, I don't have a god. 4. Now you're quoting the Bible. How about if I quote a Harry Potter book to prove Voldemort was actually real? Or quote Qoran to prove Allah is real? Would you believe me?
Dtruthspeaker: I am saying your machines know more than us so they should do everything from start to finish since they certainly know us more than us and even more than our Maker.
My maker? You mean my parents? Of course the machines and science know more about my body than my pops and moms. Them making me doesn't mean they know how my body works