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SIRTee15:
If this is the best u can come up as evidence. Then u may not have managed lots of cancer pxt. That u even have to Google this up is funny, something that's quite common. Metastatic cancer is no longer death sentence compared to 1-2 decades ago.
One of my patient diagnosed of advanced squamous cell cancer of the mandible has now been told he's cancer free.
He had palliative radiotherapy last yr because they couldn't do surgery- tumour was too advance. Now the oncologist had written that he should be removed from cancer register because the cancer is cleared. I can't count cases like above I've encountered.
My own case is a woman who had fungating advanced cancer and it regressed without any treatment. So convenient it disappeared after meeting a man of God.
Ok let me be lenient. Post me cases of confirmed cancer diagnosis that regressed without treatment. Let's leave metastasis out of it.

1. Bro, I brought scientifically diagnosed cases from medical journals because anyone can claim anything online (myself included). And that example is better than me saying I know so-so and so person who had spontaneous remission after a late prostate cancer that has metastasized to the lung or liver.
2. And yes lots of people get cured of cancers worldwide, not just in nigeria. Thanks to science and not yahweh.
3. So you're saying your index patient never had a drop of chemo or ray of radio? How was the diagnosis of the late cervical CA made?

SIRTee15:
God sees all mankind in heaven. That's your final destination if you follow his will.
It's your choice not to make heaven, he can't drag u to where u don't want to go.

Looks like you don't understand. Ok lemme break it down.
Before we are born, yahweh knows if we are gonna make heaven or not, right? And this(making or losing heaven) happens irrespective of whatever we do on earth: its our destiny, right?
So why watch us get born and give us this notion of 'freewill' when its already predetermined?

SIRTee15:
What's the elephant in the room. Sincerely can't remember.

Ok. Lemme refresh.
1. Who created the concept of death for sin? Yahweh. Is it possible for him to forgive as an omnibenevolent god? Yes. There you go! A god that does not want to forgive the sin of his creations but instead imposes the law that they die or he kills his own son to appease himself for their sins. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS NOT OMBIBENEVOLENT?

2. There is further indictment for Yahweh. He purportedly created humans and the earth, including evil too , so why is he angry at the outcome of his creations?
Besides he is omniscient so knows how Lucifer would deceive and con Adam via the tree of knowledge, yet he went ahead to create both Lucifer and the tree(he even gave the tree luscious fruits and kept it in the middle of the Garden where Adam and Eve would be able to admire it) and got angry when the inevitable happened.
3. You seem not to understand the plot. Yahweh knew all along that man would sin again after even after he destroys us with the flood. So why kill everyone in the first place? Why not kill his son first ab initio instead of the flood, since he is so bloodthirsty.
4. CAN AN OMNISCIENT AND ALL-KNOWING GOD REGRET ON HIS ACTIONS OR BE SURPRISED BY THE ACTIONS OF HIS CREATIONS?
As a rejoinder, if yahweh knows the exact number of people making heaven, why charge christians on the Great Commission to preach the gospel all over the world?

SIRTee15:
He could have used the services of craftsmen willing to work in exchange for wages.
God's divine calling, the animals answered to the call of their creator. Just like Jesus called forth the fishes into Peter's net. Luk 5.4-6

Right, this is getting interesting
So the same vile sodom and gomorrah folks are working for Noah? Okay.
So Yahweh ranched all the animals in the world together? Are you aware all the animals couldn't have fitted into that ark? How did yahweh do that too?

Maynman:
You did not answer any of my questions, you were just contradicting yourself.
From saying your god knows possible choices to saying he knows exact choices yet you have freewill.


If God did not want man to commit the original sin, why did he give man a desire for knowledge, experience, adventure and carnal love?

The guy na master question dodger

SIRTee15:
Check fzmasterx response and my response to mayman. Most questions already answered, no need going on repetition.
Quote the direct word of God here. Can't go back and start searching, too many posts.
God doesn't sit a prophet down and tell him what to write verbatim, maybe with exception of Moses which he spoke with face to face. Numbers 12.8
God send his message in the spirit and the prophet delivers them in expressed languages that can't fully comprehend God's ways and thoughts, but the core message isn't lost which is the actual word of God, not the phrases or sentences used. That's why u read the bible in context.

Whoa. You ignored all the pertinent questions I asked you about yahweh's omniscience and ended with this? You even ignored the rebuttal about late cancers

Ken4Christ:
The Bible contains God's word. Not every content of the Bible is God's word. Even the words Satan spoke are written in the Bible.

There are some places men also wrote their personal opinion. For instance, some of the things Job said during the years of his afflictions were his personal opinions.

Even Apostle said in a verse that what he wrote was his opinion and not an instruction from the Lord.

God didn't dictate the writing of the books of the Bible.

The only passage that are clear instructions from God are the prophetic books and the specific instructions he gave to some of the saints of old.

The creation story was a revelation Moses received from God.

That God rested on the seventh day does not mean he was tired like we humans get tired. Spirits don't get tired.

He just wanted to institute a worship schedule which he did to the children of Israel. That day was chosen by God for them to devote themselves to worship.

Many other contents are historical. And as men are not perfect, you don't expect perfection in their report.

If two of us go to the scene of the same event and we are asked to put down what happened, you can be sure that we will present the story differently.

There are no contradictions in the Bible.

Tell me any contradiction from the book of the prophets. Show me where two different Prophets of old said two different things on the same thing.

It was stated in the bible that every word there is inspired and breathed by Yahweh. And any removal from it(which you are doing) would be met with stiff punishments. Be warned

advocatejare:
Deprive him of the attention, that is what he thrives on. You will see him vanish now

Let him go and meet his unloving parents to show him love and attention at home

Mentally, you're one of the dullest theists on Nairaland. And that's saying something, when you have contenders like Maxindhouse, Olaadegbu, Dtuthspeaker, Elated77

advocatejare:
Stop wasting your time on that boy called Maynman he’s not worth your attention. Deprive him of the attention he craves, his parents failed him, they were not good examples of Godly people to him so he hates God cos of the irresponsible nature of his parents. We can only pity him. Please leave him for now, let him sulk in silence!

But yet you won't let muslims rest

ANTIlSLAM:
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good.

And the wise man shouts aloud "There is no god"

advocatejare:
I have blacklisted you from the list of people that are worth my attention since. You’re too retarded to get my time, get lost! I don’t have time for kids!

The way you sissy chrissies run away from challenges is interesting. But you wanna challenge muslims. But you won't grow balls to challenge atheists

FxMasterz:
As I promised you yesterday, I've decided to expose your lies and deceit in rendering some of these verses out of context. I'll take 10 verses only even though you challenged me to pick only 1.

I'm not here to engage you. Engaging Atheists is a waste of time. They're not seekers of truth. They engage you to tell themselves they're intelligent while exhibiting a high level of folly.

Before I continue, I must let you know that the Bible was written by imperfect men urged on by the Spirit of God.

God uses men to mininster to men. Men are God's channels. Even though men are imperfect, God uses their imperfections to bless others as long as they're doing all they do in honesty and sincerity.

1 Corinthians 13:9-12 established that we know in part and prophesy in part. The perfect would come later but the perfect is not yet here.

When you read the Bible as a canal man, you are reading the imperfect letters of the Word. 2 Corinthians 3:6 says those letters kill. They don't give life.

That's why the first step into the things of God is a spiritual rebirth. When you approach the Bible as a spirit being, the Holy Ghost takes you beyond the limits of imperfect letters that kill. You're ushered into the deep things of God that are not available on the surface. The Spirit of God gives you life through those imperfect channels. God still uses Imperfect men today, and their words are still called 'The Word of God."

When you hear Christians saying they're going to church to listen to the Word of God. They're going to listen to an imperfect man who preaches behind a pulpit. His words may be imperfect. It could contains errors. But he preaches with all sincerity to the best of his knowledge. God uses his imperfect knowledge to bless the hearers.

The Bible itself does not lay any claim to perfection, so this thread of yours is useless.

Now, let me start addressing your issues. The deception in your post is too obvious.

1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6.

I'll be as brief as I can.
In Genesis 1:31, the context was the entire work of creation. He was satisfied to see the physical replica of his thoughts. He achieved what He had in mind. They were as exact as He had intended them to be.

In Genesis 6:6, God was not dissatisfied with His works. That's a blatant lie. Quote the verse if I'm lying. God regretted creating man. That's the verse. Man isn't God's only work. He's just a very minute part of His entire creation. He regretted creating man because man misused his freewill which God had given him. Man reinvented himself. Ecclesiastes 7:29 sums it up:

[/b]"Behold, this only have I found: that God made man perfect; but they have sought out many inventions."[/b]

Only man o. Not His entire works.

2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48

In the Old Testament era, God related with man physically, and at the time, physical temples were the only meeting place with God. That's the context of 2 Chronicles 7. In the new testament, after the death and resurrection of Christ, God started relating with man spiritually. Men became God's Temples. That's the context of Acts 7. The former temple was a mere shadow. The later temple is the real deal.

3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

God dwells in light but to those who are blind like yourself, God dwells in darkness. They can't see God. When the veil is removed off your face, and you begin to see clearly, you'll see God. But as long as Satan's veil of darkness remains upon you, you can't see God.

4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16.

God is seen and heard by those to whom He reveals and manifests Himself. God is invisible but God does manifest. If you seek Him you'll find Him.

5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28

First let me see where the verse says God was tired in that Genesis 2. His work was done or what else did He have to come back later to do? He rested to teach man how to rest not because He was tired Himself. He laid an example for man. Today by that example, we have resting days. We rest even when we're not tired. We have a physical rest and a spiritual rest. If man can rest even when he isn't tired, what makes you think God rested because He was tired? If i decided to rest in my house on Saturday and not go to work, does that mean I'm tired? SMH. Give me the verse that says God was tired. Anything else would be ignored.

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8.

The purpose of these verses is to show us that God cares and is absolutely interested in the affairs of men. How did He know that men were building something in Genesis 11? How did He know that Sodom was perverted in Genesis 18. How did He know all these already before saying He'll come down or go to confirm? Those verses are merely demonstrating God's concerns for man which is one of the core messages of the Bible.

7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12

God knows the hearts of men but He tries the hearts of men in order to prove to man that the man who was tried deserves whatever God does to him.

"By no means! Let God be true though every one were a liar, as it is written, “ That you may be justified in your words, and prevail when you are judged.

God would be proved right when men or anyone judges God's actions. Even the man who is cast to hell would know for sure that he deserves hell. By the trial, everyone knows that God is casting him to hell, not just because of what God thinks about him but by the results he himself has produced.

8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19

God is all powerful but His power is available to man in the measure to which man is Obidient to God. In Judges 4, under the pophethhood of Deborah, an Obidient and faithly woman of God, God destroyed Sisera and his large army of iron chariots. Faith and Obidient are the two important yardsticks for measuring how much of God's power is available to man.


9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14

I don't need to answer this. I'm sure the book you're copying from was written by a Satanist.

You mean if God decided to punish a people, and the people repented and asks to be forgiven, God must go ahead and punish them in order to prove that He doesn't change?

God has never changed. He hates evil and goes all out to punish it after giving the evil doer ample time to repent. He then rolls out severe warnings. If the evil doer repents, He forgives and turns back the intensity of the punishment. That's how He has always been. That's how He is till today.

10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12

In Genesis 9:25, Noah cursing his son makes God partial? Hahahaha, wonders shall never end. In Exodus 20:5, God is partial for commanding the Jews not to worship idols? How foolish can this assertion get?

In Romans 9:11-13, God already knew what Esau was going to do and become. God knew his heart. He knew he'll not serve God. God judged him before hand. And we see that God was right in His judgement by the kind of life Esau eventually lived.

This brings me back to the verse that makes you conclude that God does not know the hearts because He tries the hearts of men. I've responded to that already. This allegation of yours further proves my position that even though God knows man's heart, people like you will accuse God of wrongdoing if God does not prove through trial that the man deserves what God says or does to him.

The Satanist book from which you're copying is a book of lies at its best. I can't find any truth in it. I've just exposed the first 10 lies. The book is merely written to mislead people like you in order to further strengthen the fetters of your captivity so that you can become surer candidates of hell.

This is a very poor attempt to discredit the Bible.

There are indeed human imperfections in the Bible but this first 10 verses of yours don't fall in that category. They were deliberate lies sordidly collated to look like truth.

I really pity your soul.

Why do you chrissies throw the bible under a bus when it falters under scrutiny.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
New International Version
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work
And youre commiting heresy by castigating this word breathed by yahweh.
1. I said Yahweh regretted creating man, not all his creations. If you regret cooking a poor pot of soup, are you satisfied with it? Of course not.
Which brings us to this.
WHY SHOULD AN OMNISCIENT AND ALL-KNOWING GOD REGRET HIS ACTIONS OR BE SURPRISED BY HIS CREATIONS?
Please dont dodge this question like many chrissies do.
2. Jesus flogged thieves out of the temple which he says is his house.

3.
Notice it was stated clearly in those verses yahweh dwells in dark clouds. There was no allusion to unbelief or anything like that.
This is precisely the reason 1 bible can spawn thousands, and more of denominations. Everyone have their own meaning of a particular verse. You see how you twisted this verse that was plain as day into something that is completely off. One can commit murder and have a 100% bible backup. No wonder same bible gave rise to denominations which kill their members. Like Jim Jones of the Guyana disaster, the recent Kenyan massacre and many others.
4. Another nebulous claim from you.
God is seen and heard by those to whom He reveals and manifests Himself. God is invisible but God does manifest.
So why would yahweh reveal himself physically when its a death sentence to humans? Besides this statement of yours completely goes against these quoted verses which are breathes of yahweh.

5.
It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel for ever; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed
Can a being with limitless energy be refreshed?

6.
And the LORD said, “Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave, I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know
So an all knowing god doesn't even know what's going on here?

7.
Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that aprophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God bproveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
This verse is just saying that yahweh is testing their faith in him. It didn't state anywhere that he wants them to know their own decisions changed their 'destiny'

“Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son


Deuteronomy 8:2
New International Version
2 Remember how the Lord your God led you all the way in the wilderness these forty years, to humble and test you in order to know what was in your heart, whether or not you would keep his commands


These 2 also show yahweh does not know the outcome of the isrealite Wilderness journey or whether Abraham would kill isaac. If he knew, why would he ask the dude to do it? He would have told Abraham that he's a faithful servant

8.
Judges 1:19
King James Version
19 And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron
I don't even understand how you are defending this verse. Its clearly stated that yahweh couldnt destroy the iron chariots.

9. This answer further strengthens the notion that yahweh isnt all knowing. CAN AN ALL KNOWING AND OMNISCIENT GOD CHANGE HIS MIND?
Also notice that yahweh actually changed from a vindictive bloodthirsty god in the OT to a caring god in the NT. Can he be said to be an all knowing and unchangeable god? Nope!

10. Oh bro. These aint lies as youve seen. I just showed you that you're wrong

advocatejare:
Many of the so called nairaland atheists are okay with the Quran despite the numerous errors there in but they always attack the Bible despite Allah claiming to have been the one that revealed many books in the Bible that these so called atheist write against. That is to tell you that those atheists are satanists, they like the lies in the Quran but would want to water down the Bible. We shall keep exposing them.

AntiChristians the new atheist

I wasn't an ex-Muslim, so I can't attack them specifically, and I can't quote the qoran as copiously as I can. Being an ex-Christian I can point out lots of issues with the bible my eyes closed because I have read it thoroughly before.
I have issues with religion as a whole, whether chritianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism etc cos they are all built on a faulty premise.

advocatejare:
I can see that you being an Atheist and AntiChristian are friends because you have something in common, you both worship a demon in the name of nature and Allah.

If you are smart and intelligent you will know that the same Allah of Islam claimed to have revealed most of the places you quoted in the Bible: the Torah (first five books of the Old Testament), Psalms and the Gospel.

But foolishness won’t make you realize that you’re making a ridicule of yourself.

I don't worship nature, science or any god. I'm sure you know what atheism is.
I don't care what Allah revealed. I'm talking about Bible gaffes. Allah and Qoran may have gaffes, but that would derail this thread.
Again, no insults please. I know you're full of it, but take it out of your parlance. It doesn't make you more persuasive.
Thank you

advocatejare:
I’m not. I’m responding to the nincompoop that mentioned me on this thread, he’s a Muslim and that’s why I responded to him in his folly. He is AntiChristian.

I wouldn’t have responded to you an atheist. I don’t waste time on you people. Enjoy your belief and delusions, when you will die you’ll see whether you’ve been right or wrong!

Go and tell that to your father at home or any Christian in your family. Thank you

Yet you have time to harass Muslims and respond to their 'delusions' but run away from the 'delusions' of atheists. No problem.
If you noticed I said no insult. If your religion likes throwing insults around, I don't. Thank you

Ken4Christ:
You think that I am as jobless as you.

Your submission requires lots of time and I am yet to get such time.

I have gone through them and it didn't unsettle me one bit.

Let me just make a passing comment on one of them.

You quoted scripture which says that God dwells in darkness and another says he dwells in light.

Let me harmonize these scriptures.

The Bible is made of Contents derived from;

1. Historical facts. In other words, things that took place in the Bible days.

2. Revealed facts. These are things revealed which science or the human senses do not know. For instance, the account of creation is a revelation given to Moses. Moses couldn't have known what happened at creation if God did not reveal it to him.

3. Eye witness account. There are also things written that are eye witness account. It could also be a vision seen by the writer which also doubles as a revelation.

4. There are also few words which are the personal opinion of the writer. For example, some of the things Job said during the days of his afflictions were his personal opinions. They can't be used authoritatively as the word of God.

Concerning the verse which says that God dwells in darkness. This is certainly what the writer saw or the vision revealed when God showed up. The question is, why would God cover himself with darkness. He did that because if he permits people to see the brightness of his glory, they will all go blind.

So, he had to use dark clouds to cover the glory of his brightness.

For example, when Jesus appeared to Saul in the book of Acts, the light that shone from Jesus was brighter than the noonday sun. And Saul became blind instantly.

So, God does not only dwell in light, He is light himself.

But when he sometimes appears in vision or when he appeared to Moses, he covers himself with thick darkness. Notice the phrase, 'THICK DARKNESS'. The darkness has to be thick enough to cover the brightness of the glory of his light, otherwise, the entire camp will go blind.

Just give me some time. I will attend to all the submissions. I am a very busy man.

1. None of the bible verses is eye witness account. They were all written hundreds of years after they supposedly happened.
2. Yahweh appeared to Jacob, Moses etc in all his glory, and not only were they never blind, but they lived, contrary to your Bible claims.
3. These are also examples where Yahweh appeared as shining light, in this case to Ezekiel, and yet dude never got blind

Ezekiel 8:2
Then I looked, and behold, a likeness as the appearance of a man; from His loins and downward there was the appearance of fire, and from His loins and upward the appearance of brightness, like the appearance of glowing metal

Ezekiel 1:27
Then I noticed from the appearance of His loins and upward something like glowing metal that looked like fire all around within it, and from the appearance of His loins and downward I saw something like fire; and there was a radiance around Him

Ezekiel 1:28
rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the surrounding radiance. Such was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell on my face and heard a voice speaking

AntiChristian:
jaephoenix

You can see these so called Christians lack any substance!

Empty ball-less guys

TenQ:
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Let me give you some copy-paste for you to respond to.


 

Contradictions in the Qur’an

by Matt Slick | Dec 12, 2008 | Islam, World Religions

The Qur’an states that it is a perfect book preserved on tablets in heaven (Surah 85:21-22).  If the Qur’an is a perfect book from Allah, then there shouldn’t be any contradictions in it.  Of course, the Muslims will deny that any contradictions exist in the Qur’an, but they do.  Some of the contradictions below could be debated, but some of them are clearly contradictions.

A contradiction occurs when one statement on a subject excludes the possibility of another. 

The first one here is a good example.  In Surah 19:67, it states that man was created out of nothing.  In 15:26, man is created from clay.  Since clay is something, we have a contradiction since “nothing” excludes the possibility of “clay.”  Both cannot be true.

All quotes from the Qur’an, unless otherwise specified, are from Yusuf Ali and can be found at the Qur’an online.

What was man created from: blood, clay, dust, or nothing?

“Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood,” (96:2).

“We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).

“The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was,” (3:59).

“But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?” (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).

“He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Is there or is there not compulsion in religion according to the Qur’an?

“Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things,” (2:256).

“And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage, – that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith,” (9:3).

“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful,” (9:5).

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued,” (9:29).

The first Muslim was Muhammad? Abraham? Jacob? Moses?

“And I [Muhammad] am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam,” (39:12).

“When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: “O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee.” Allah said: “By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me.” When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: “Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe.” (7:143).

“And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; “Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam,” (2:132).

Does Allah forgive or not forgive those who worship false gods?

Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed,” (4:48).  Also 4:116

The people of the Book ask thee to cause a book to descend to them from heaven: Indeed they asked Moses for an even greater (miracle), for they said: “Show us Allah in public,” but they were dazed for their presumption, with thunder and lightning. Yet they worshipped the calf even after clear signs had come to them; even so we forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority,” (4:153).

Are Allah’s decrees changed or not?

“Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers,” (6:34).

“The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfillment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all, (6:115).

None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?” (2:106).

When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),- they say, “Thou art but a forger”: but most of them understand not,” (16:101).

Was Pharaoh killed or not killed by drowning?

“We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: “I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam). (It was said to him): “Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)!  This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!” (10:90-92).

Moses said, “Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!”  So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him,” (17:102-103).

Is wine consumption good or bad?

O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,–of Satan’s handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper,” (5:90).

(Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell forever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?” (47:15).

Truly the Righteous will be in Bliss: On Thrones (of Dignity) will they command a sight (of all things): Thou wilt recognize in their faces the beaming brightness of Bliss. Their thirst will be slaked with Pure Wine sealed,” (83:22-25).




I Still have more !

LOL!

Why are these christians like this? This thread is about your own religion, attend to it before harassing another one

ANTIlSLAM:
You will tell the demon that revealed the contradictions in Quran to Muhammad to revisiting him in grave for the amendments

Again, this is about Bible gaffes, not Qoran's. Be guided

AntiChristian:
Do you need to have anything in common before your holly spirit helps you?

You are a dunce!
Confirmed!

Ask him if he has anything in common with Muslims

xproducer:
op... clearly you and others like you have gone out of your way to attempt to discredit the inerrant, living (Hebrews 4:12-13) word of GOD, in error... GOD is the Judge and HE reigns... nothing and no one can stop HIS purposes... try in futility as y'all may! Very sad...

"But to the wicked God says: “What right have you to declare My statutes, Or take My covenant in your mouth, Seeing you hate instruction And cast My words behind you?" - Psalm 50:16-17

"So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it." - Isaiah 55:11

"To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled." - Titus 1:15 (note Revelation 21:8!!!)


The Parable of the Sower Explained
“Therefore hear the parable of the sower: When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside. But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.” - Matthew 13:18-23


For it is written: “As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.” - Romans 14:11

And another one drops in not just to debate on the subject but to quote from the same material that is being debated about.
Aint chrissies wonderful?

TenQ:
You can debate Atheists on Philosophy or Logic or Science BUT it is a waste of Everything to debate Scriptures or Religion with them.

Don't give your pearls to the Pig!

Just like its a waste a Muslim debating the quoran with you, isn't it?

Chibuezem:
not the present isreal, I'm talking of the isreal of the old testament.

Whats the difference between the 2 israels?

TenQ:
Trolling !
Baiting!!

It doesn't work. Change your tactics!

You could please post evidence of me dodging you as I can't even remember your face.

Are you saying you haven't engaged my moniker before? You wanna swear?

FxMasterz:
Atheists are not worth wasting time on. They ask very foolish questions and are always trying to dribble you. They're never sincere and never straight forward.

They always engage in arguments for the sole purpose of proving some false intelligence. No more no less. They're not interested in truth.
Meanwhile, we don't consider them intelligence enough. So, it's always wise to let them be because foolish questions are always very annoying. I'm going to pick several verses that are out of context for you tomorrow. And that's all I'll do
You're not a truth seeker so I'm not interested in wasting my time with you.

Do you engage Muslims to know the truth?

TenQ:
Weak argument as usual of your type.

Half of the prophets of God in my religion is in his.

Bro, we don't have anything in common as per religion , do we?

That's because they copied their book from yours, while you copied from other sources like Epic of Gilgamesh. Besides I can say atheists have something in common with theists because we were once theists

OLAADEGBU:
Do you agree that man was created from "dust?"

No

OLAADEGBU:
I'm sure even you would prefer that your lawyers, bankers and doctors all believe in God, wouldn't you?

Why would I prefer that?

Aemmyjah:
. Keep asking the same stupid questions when you can't dispute the evidence. As your level of understanding tells you that everything came by accident. Intelligence indeed

Yes. If your sky daddy can come by accident, so can the world

Aemmyjah:
Outside the Bible, common sense shows that there is a Creator. For me, the evidence is in creation, the Bible, our spiritual consciousness (religion), conscience, intelligence, consciousness, prayer, etc. Science tells us that there are laws that guided the material universe. You want us to believe laws have no law giver? They tell us that everything in the natural world is a marvel of design but you want us to accept that these designs have no designer. It is. Ok

Who designed this very intelligent designer? Its too intelligent to just pop into existence

correctguy101:
What a joke. Science doesn't believe?

What kinda talk is science doesn't believe?

Maybe I used the wrong term.
Science has evidence that we didn't pop into existence

correctguy101:
What cynicism... SMH

Using the FSM makes you sound crazy. Read what you wrote yourself.

Yup. I intentionally use it to make the guy look dumb