Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Lady Says Prayer Is A Waste Of Time, No Jesus by jaephoenix(m): 10:45am On Apr 21, 2023 |
 crows2ravens: How can you prove the existence of Aristotle? Or Archimedes? Or Cicero?
You don't know what you're saying. There's a host of people in history that you can't prove their existence by archeological artifacts apart from their writings, we know Jesus's disciples by their writings too. The only ones you can prove are kings and emperors because of preserved tombs and coins. I don't have time to argue with you. Either you believe or not! Don't disturb other people because they don't follow your line of thought.
You guys make cheap arguments to debate established facts. You know nothing about the bible you're attempting to discredit, apart from hearsay by those misleading you. How can you discuss what you don't know? Aristotle etc have been proven to exist. There are painting and bust images of them. There are historical evidence too. Can we say there were contemporary history of Jesus? No. You said you know jesus disciples by their writings? Do you know their writings if you see it? Did you read the part of history that says the story of Jesus was written centuries after it supposedly happened? Is that too hard for you to grasp? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Lady Says Prayer Is A Waste Of Time, No Jesus by jaephoenix(m): 9:57am On Apr 21, 2023 |
crows2ravens: Don't you know the meaning of compiled? Matthew and co. are the eyewitnesses that wrote the gospels. Their works were later combined with those of others to make up the new testament of the bible. Isaiah scrolls had survived thousand years before it was added to a compilation of books called the Bible. These are just few examples. The bible is a compilation of different books written at different times, not just passed down stories. Apparently, you've never read a Bible before, not even out of curiosity to verify your thoughts, and neither have you read about how the bible came into existence. Your arguments show you lack the relevant information. And I won't be the one to inform you, go and find out by yourself. Dont you understand? None of them were first hand or eye witness account. Some were gotten from the Dead Scrolls |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Lady Says Prayer Is A Waste Of Time, No Jesus by jaephoenix(m): 9:43am On Apr 21, 2023 |
DeepSight: You don't seem to have grasped the pith of what I am saying.
I am not putting the Bible forward as a singular work. It is not even a singular work. It is a compilation of many disparate works.
My point is, there are hundreds of writings about Jesus, only four are included in the bible.
Why are all those writings automatically disqualified simply because they are religious. There are too many to discountenance and they are not all in the Bible.
Furthermore, there are books in the Bible that are not just of a religious nature. Several books chronicle events that can be shown to be historical, such as the destruction of Jerusalem. I don't think it makes sense to dismiss everything there on the simple ground that it's religious writing.
I would not do thia even for the Vedas. Look, I would not do it even for writings presumed to be myths suxh as the writings about Troy by Homer. We should research carefully rather than make blanket presumptions.
Mind you, I do not believe the Bible to be innerrant truth, and it is not my creed by any stretch of the imagination nor do I believe in the concept of God it advances, which I consider hideous. Movies about Spiderman show the Statue of Liberty in New York. Does it mean Spiderman is real? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Aren't Truth-seekers by jaephoenix(m): 9:37am On Apr 21, 2023 |
SeniorMan715: You must be a quack Physician  Why do you say so? |
Christianity Etc › Re: This topic has been removed by jaephoenix(m): 9:36am On Apr 21, 2023 |
logicalhumour: Well, me, I'm an actual medical student. After studying Embryology and DNA-related Biochemistry, I realize we'll NEVER be able to comprehend the kind of intelligence that went into what we call "our" DNA today.
A mind blowing differentiation occurs in the process of making a human, starting from Cleavage. You know the size of a cell, and yes, the whole you was once about that size. Starting from when the Morula is formed (please Google my terms if you need to), every tiny "sub-cellular" entity in the zygote acts like they have brains on their own. I can confidently tell you that when forming Zana's children's physiques, these "cells" were able to tell that it was a deprecated version, and chose to go the other way.
I know it seems like you know too much to yourself, but after learning deep Embryology and related topics about the way our cells differentiate during formation, you'll realize that you know nothing! It's not just you, me too. We weren't made to comprehend these things, the farther and deeper you go, the angrier you become: one of the sole reason I've refused to procreate in this life. I might change my mind, but for now it seems to me that I'm running a fö0l's errand.
So, in summary, OP isn't as dvmb as you think. The more you know, the clearer OP gets. Lol. I'm glad I'm now talking with a medic. Bro, I don't need to Google up stuff. I'm a physician of 16 years in the trenches. Agreed, embryology and genetics are branches of science with needs more research. Everything in life is determined by your DNA. In the case of Zana, there was a possible DNA aberration, which led to coding of the different protein. So I don't understand how this makes the OP's case smarter. He and his bunch are busy witchhunting me, reason I left the thread |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 9:26am On Apr 21, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:20am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Every normal person can discern which report is given by men and which was given by God. Yet theyre were all combined and handed to us as the word of god |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:19am On Apr 21, 2023 |
OkCornel: As I’ve mentioned earlier, the truth cannot be limited to any book.
Any difficulty comprehending this? What is this truth? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 9:17am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: You don't know what you are missing until you give your life to Christ. The life is real. It's a better life and a supernatural life. Is that all you have to say? Okay. Lemme tell you advantages of being an atheist over being a Christian. 1. You get all the fine babes. Babes don't look at broke ass christians. We atheists are the bomb. 2. We are money magnets. Just look at the finest houses around. Its owned by atheists. 3. We have supernatural health. We don't even get sick. In fact Christians flock to our homes asking us what we are doing right. I'll update you as we progress |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 9:14am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Resist the devil and he will flee from you - James 4:7.
Who does the resisting? You
Who does Satan flee from? You
God is too big to be contending with the devil.
At the set time, he will be punished and thrown into the Lake of Fire. He's too big to be contending with the devil? Yet he watches on with his popcorn as this same devil(that he created) and he's bigger than oppresses his people |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 9:08am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ever8090: then this Is my proof that God exist... A picture of a priest is proof of yahweh's existence? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 9:07am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ever8090: I am done with you, I better go discus with a chicken or even a cement block than waste my time talking to you.... Your dumb brain is better suited for those subjects. Idiot |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 1:28am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Image123: Speak for yourself riding hood. We know what we have seen, heard and handled. Care to enumerate what you have seen, heard, handled etc? |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 1:25am On Apr 21, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:43am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Janosky:
IMBECILIC Atheists forming medical doctor. 
How were you able to "take a Mickey outta " a spirit being you claimed does not exist?
mickey noun (DRUG) (in screenshot). [ C ] slang. (also Mickey Finn) a drug added to a drink, especially an alcoholic drink, in order to make the person who drinks it unconscious: He must have slipped his wife a mickey.12 Apr 2023 https://dictionary.cambridge.org › ... MICKEY | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary. I knew I'd have to teach you this but no problem, I'll do that for any stupid theist. British, informal. : to make fun of someone. Everyone laughed, but nobody laughed harder than Luna Lovegood. … " Are you taking the mickey?"And yes I can make fun of a non existing being or subject. I'm sure you've seen people diss Spider-man or Harry Potter? Or you don't know them too? 
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:38am On Apr 21, 2023 |
LottiOk:
: lwkm 
So if we give u poison now, u won't die abi? Dey play Abeg no disturb ma guy. He promised me of drinking 99% conc acid on live TV. Don't discourage him |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:37am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: The first Adam knew the instruction God gave him but he chose to disobey God. So, his ignorance of the knowledge of good God and evil does not count.
He was given a clear instruction and he ignored it. Just like you acutely ignored my first questions |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:36am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: God is a just God. It's not his duty to stop Satan. It's our duty to stop him by taking the right decision. Its not Yahweh's duty to stop satan? Never mind. I forgot Satan is his buddy |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:34am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: God gives us many opportunities to repent. Those who go to hell are the ones who rejected them. That isn't the answer to his question. Are you trying to use Ignorance of Obfuscation tactics? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:34am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: 1. True believers are free from the guilt of sin and condemnation. Every other person still see themselves as sinners. But we don't. We are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.
2. The believer has authority to cast out demons. The unbeliever does not. The seven sons of Sceva in the book of Acts tried to cast out demons in the name of Jesus and they were mercilessly beaten.
3. The believer will drink deadly poison and survive it but it will kill the unbeliever.
4. We have peace of mind that money can't buy. The unbeliever does not.
5. We have the capacity to receive the Holy Spirit and speak in other tongues but the unbeliever does not. 1. This cannot be ascertained. Just like saying people with 3 spiritual eyes have spiritually long hands. Since nobody can ascertain them and even christians dispute this topic since nobody can see it, then its not a valid point 2. Have you seen a demon before? Can you pass one on the road and point it out? Guess not! You just end up accusing your fellow human. Thus, sadly this is another invalid point 3. Ummm. I have seen many believers die from drinking poisons. But we can always test this out on you by getting you to drink concentrated arsenic. Ready? 4. Peace of mind is a relative term. And I have seen many Christians have incessant panic attacks without peace while some atheists are very contented with life. 5. I can speak in tongues too. Only problem is you won't understand my gibberish, just like you don't understand the gibberish of your fellow believers |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:23am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Your example does not hold water.
The last Adam, Jesus was subjected to the same temptation the first Adam failed.
That the first Adam failed didn't make God change his principle.
Everyone must be subjected to test. Do they have the same powers? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:20am On Apr 21, 2023 |
orisa37: GOD IS SECRET, A CULT, A CHURCH, A MOSQUE, A COVEN AND A COVENANT. SO GET YOURSELF AN EPHOD. ALWAYS WEAR IT WHENEVER YOU WANT TO TALK TO GOD. BE HUMBLE. YOU ARE NOT TALKING TO A HOOLIGAN. CAST ASIDE SELFISHNESS. CALL MY GOD MY GOD PLEASE DON'T FORSAKE ME. CALL "IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST", IN SOLILOQUY, 40 TIMES. BE REALISTIC AND PRAY FOR ONE THING, ONE PROBLEM, AT A TIME . LIKE SERIOUSLY, SAY AMEN THREE TIMES. BE EXPECTING RESULTS.
FROM ORUNTO27 ORISAORUNTOSPEAKS. GOD IS GRAND ORDER DOMINION. PLEASE DON'T BE ADVERSE TO HIGHEST IN ESTIMABLE SUPREME THEORY-ATHIEST. Bro can I have the contacts of your kush supplier?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:17am On Apr 21, 2023 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=122628246][/quote]How come atheistic countries have less crime rates than theistic ones including predominantly Christian countries |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:14am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Kez11: Honestly that manna tale sounds so hilarious... It baffles me seeing smart and intelligent people believing that gibberish. Religion has a way of disconnecting smart people from their brain, then reconnecting it in non-religious purposes |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:13am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Only a human blood can meet the demand of justice. The value of the blood of animals is not the same as that of human.
You can't borrow a gold watch to a friend and he returns a silver plated watch. They are not the same value.
Man sinned. Another man has to atone for his sin. And that man has to be sinless.
Jesus is the only one qualified to die for mankind. Thank God he did. And he also rose from the dead. So, it wasn't a bad deal.
You rescued others by risking your life and you still made it. It's a win-win situation.
And it's worthy of celebration. This is quite an unbalanced analogy. Who is this blood being sacrificed to? Baal? Mephiboshet? Thor? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:09am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Jesus willingly offered himself as a sacrificial lamb to save the world. You should be glad about that.
If you borrow money from a bank, you can't pay back with banana.
Only blood makes atonement for sin. What or who is he exactly saving the world from? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:08am On Apr 21, 2023 |
teebagy: God is a pure spirit who cannot been seen with d phyiscal eye. Just d way organisms canot b seen without microscope. Only ur spirit can c GOD You don't get my point. I mean, why is Yahweh suddenly shy since the bible days? He aint sending lightnings, manna, hailstorms etc |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 7:57pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
teebagy: Not from himself but from sin. When sin, who do you (purportedly) offend? Satan or Yahweh? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 7:54pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
kingslj: better off than someone you dont know or seen, That is being foolish . They are alive because of the love and provision made available by God ALMIGHTY.
Please dont assume that it is everyone on nairaland that is suffering or not contended with life. Tell me a person that can prove that our universe came about by mistake. You don't get my point. No matter how well off a Christian is, there's always an atheist better than him. Some Christians are also better off than atheists. But check the richest 100 persons and see how many Christians are there |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 7:51pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 7:50pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
Ever8090: do you asked a question or you been blabbing all along? If you don't understand something, humbly ask. Stop exposing your ignorance |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 7:49pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
Ever8090: you have not answered any of my question, until you tell me how you came into existence, you will continue to sound foolish to me. Don't even try to return my question to you back to me. ...how did you come into existence?. You said it was trough your father's sperm, then I asked, how did your father and his sperm came into existence, you stylishly ran away from the question and now you want to systematically return the question to me because, that is a question even atheist has not been able to answer not to talk of a wana-be atheist like you, but I expect you to give it a try anyway If you have a brain, you would have seen I have answered that question. You asked how I came, and I said I came from my moms and pops. Then you ask how my pops came, obviously he came from his own pops. You asked how man came to be and I said I don't know. Is there a problem with that? I'm not a dishonest dolt like you that claim things they don't know about. I then asked you the same question and you're blowing hot air, yet to answer any of my questions, meanwhile have been answering yours |