Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 11:29pm On Apr 01, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: That's a lie. No kid can dream to ask this rubbish.
It was a devil who sold it to you and you bought it because you did not want God in the first place and are looking for how you could be free of Him.
And that is why you have already condemned yourself even before anyone tells you, you are condemned. Lawag3 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 11:29pm On Apr 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: 1. Care to point to the particular portions of the Epic of Gilgamesh that were copied? I would very much like to explore this claim further is why.  There are many copied concepts from the great flood to the Virgin birth. There are only a handful of non-cuneiform references to Gilgamesh. The Flood narrative from the Gilgamesh Epic remains the most overt connection between the Hebrew Bible and the Mesopotamian epic narrative, some hundred years after it was first noted by George Smith. The Flood narrative within the biblical text is not, however, the only point of contact between the two works of ancient literature. The name of the heroic protagonist of the Gilgamesh Epic may be found in a text from the Dead Sea Scrolls known as The Book of Giants.Check out more about it here https://bibleinterp.arizona.edu/articles/influence-gilgamesh-bible |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 11:25pm On Apr 01, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: That is full dustbin sold by devils. Every normal person knows that any new country and news paper which starts up today will still give the same news report as all the other newspapers older than it and they will not be copying from them. So, you are talking absolute nonsense. Reread this trash and ask yourself if it makes sense |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 11:25pm On Apr 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: It's false religions that doesn't want you to think outside what you learned from them but in pure worship we challenge all other schools of thought because we have the absolute truth! 
Our God promised a lot of things but what really baffles me about this God is how His words do come through PERFECTLY.
Surely i could have become an atheist after leaving Islam because i attended so many other religious gatherings and i discovered it's all the same not until i found JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES:
This group has it all if you seriously want to know the truth.
For instance their God promised that no other religion will beat them. When talking about the true God most religionists only relate with existing religions by pointing to what others does instead of telling you why what they're doing is the best. So with that JWs beat all others that's why they confidently walk up to anyone to preach! Isaiah 54:17 The most irrefutable evidence that our God is the one and only true God is what He said in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3, in that prophecy God promised that before He comes to destroy false religions people from all races throughout the earth will come together to study His word, they will put their trust in God's word, use it to teach themselves and it will help them to resolve all their racial disparities among themselves, they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons in their gathering and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!
Today! Today!! Today!!! Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling this globally. They have preached in virtually all the countries of the world including the most racial nations and infused in those that listened to them the love of mankind instead of allowing politics to lead them into hating their neighbours JWs have killed politics within them. Zephaniah 3:9
If not for this group it's really difficult to convince me that a God exists somewhere!  Do you mind stuffing this JW narrative where the sun don't shine? Its getting boring. Even a baby knows you're lying |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 11:23pm On Apr 01, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: The world jumped into existence by chance Please answer the question sir |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 11:03pm On Apr 01, 2023 |
peter0071: your choice , your stand.... my choice my stand... Ok |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 11:02pm On Apr 01, 2023 |
Heroicvic: I'm not dismissing what I learnt I'm just asking questions Asking those questions are gonna land you into dismissing what you learnt |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 11:01pm On Apr 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Obviously you're someone having real pain each time you come across JWs but try to take good care of yourself because your hatred for truth won't lead you nowhere!  Well, I have been posting clips of JWs hating on ex-JW and molesting their own children. You still haven't proven them to be lies apart from saying 'Everyone does it' |
Christianity Etc › Re: Even Atheist Know There Is God They Are Just Angry With Him by jaephoenix(m): 10:57pm On Apr 01, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Again, you lie, for everyone knows that they have a very powerful clampdown on crime reports because it is very bad for business.
And yet the biggest and worsest crimes on earth all come out from your Western countries. Lol. Clampdown on crime reports? Can you name the countries doing these clampdowns and the actual crime reports?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Even Atheist Know There Is God They Are Just Angry With Him by jaephoenix(m): 10:56pm On Apr 01, 2023 |
Image123: Do you find it interesting that there's more crime and hatred the more we get sophisticated at curbing crime? Answer the question, and stop dodging |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 6:15pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: I was raised a Muslim too but then your mind need to be directed to the right questions that will lead to a definite answer:
What comes to mind when your hear the title "GOD"?
Well that title connotes SUPREME BEING which means out of all those living both physical and spiritual there must be one who is supreme.
If you agree with that then the next question:
What do we expect from the one who is supreme?
Note that the supreme being is nobody's family so it makes no sense expecting the supreme being to be partial in giving or justice. The supreme being must be everyone's father {Matthew 6:9} and His hands supposed to satisfy the needs of both the good and bad ones in our midst! Matthew 5:45
So if you find any religion where worshipers are asking for favour regarding what supposed to be distributed evenly among the inhabitants of the earth then know that such a god can't be the supreme for it's partial.
Next is what exactly do we expect from the one who is SUPREME?
Well the supreme being must ensure that love, joy and peace reigns among all His worshipers just as a good ruler will ensure the same thing. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 compare to John 13:34-35
Why this?
It's because the supreme being should be able to set standards that all His worshipers will be united as one {John 17:22} having the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} this is what those who wants to get closer to the supreme being need to see {Matthew 5:14-16} as the fine WORKS (FRUIT) of FAITH in pure worship! Matthew 7:16-18
So this are the attributes of the FRUIT expected of pure worship under the supreme being: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23
As for all other religions that's false the works of flesh won't allow them produce what is expected of the supreme being since the spirit of the true God is not in their midst. So unlike pure worship where the spirit of God is helping imperfect humans to work together and bring out the best performance {James 2:18-26} the flesh will become a hindrance to false religions and they will only produce routine fruit {Matthew 7:16-18} even though they want to do what is right as worshipers of God! Galatians 5:19-21  Is JW sect filled with love, and don't have needs? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 6:13pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: God is regarded as the Supreme being, the Grand Creator andthe highest personality and the one who is responsible for the creation of life and the universe and everything that sustains it. Now, let us leave scripture or pretend there is no scripture Does everything in the natural world including life and earth give proof to an intelligent designer (God) or they came by accident? Which god created the world and what's your evidence |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 6:12pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
peter0071: point is... you cant make definitions on unstable science over a stable belief system of a people. God exist. Believe it or not! And religion (christianity) is stable? Whoa, dude. You're one of the most deluded dudes around. The bible is a lie, and has been scientifically and historically proven not to happen, plus the bible itself is contradictory and puzzling |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 6:09pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic: I'm aware Are you sure you're mentally ready for it? I mean, realizing that everything you've been told since birth was a BIG, FAT, HEALTHY LIE  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 5:55pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic: Can't even wrapped my head around what you said
Can you explain in English please? Ok. Back in the ancient days, probably prehistoric days, man didn't understand how phenomena(lightning, fertility, droughts etc) and structures(mountains, rivers etc) were made, so they decided it must have been made by some all powerful being. They called it many names. Some even created gods for each of them, like Ra, Aphrodite etc. Science improved and found out how these phenomena and structures came up, and most importantly how we came about, though its not very sure about the man came on the scene. Even so, some religions, especially the Abrahamic ones(christianity, Islam, Judaism) still persist and try to stay relevant by insisting their own gods made these happen. But religion is changing, they are starting to accept that the bible lied. For example, Catholics accept the evolution theory, and even the Big Bang(actually their priest theorized it), and in the next century or so, religion would completely change or be phased out |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 5:44pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: There are numerous religions claiming they're worshipers of God. Within those claiming Christians alone there is over 41,000 different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet all claiming they trust (believe) in the book called "Bible"
So your question is really thought provoking but do you honestly like to know the answer or you're just out to condemn all religions?
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses, let's see how we can both figure out the one and only true religion in the world that's filled with deception and lies! JW is filled with deception and lies |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 5:43pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
peter0071: in the same way, science admitted that the red sea was once divided but couldn't explain what and how it happened
in the same way, science admitted that there was once a time that the earth stopped rotating clockwise, but went anticlockwise but couldn't explain the reasons behind it.
science is still growing... so many theories and submissions by Science is always being disproved by others in the future.
science once told you that the earth is flat... the same science later told you that the earth is now spherical Science is growing, I admit. And it always admits its wrong very quickly, unlike religion that says its always right, and you shouldn't use your head. And no, science or history never stated, the red sea was parted, nor the earth once stopped rotating nor went anticlockwise. Where do you get your science news bro? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 5:40pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic: Guess there's no one who can answer the question without referring to their qoran or bible
What if you being a Christian is wrong all these while and the Muslim are right, does it all Christian are all going to hell? Or vice versa
Okay if I'm neutral will I still go to hell ? Which kain wahala be this Again I warn you, bro. You're thinking outside your religious box, and it won't be long before you start thinking the 'unthinkable'. Pun intended  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 5:38pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
peter0071: anyway, opinion is free... you can decide to believe that they are ignorant in their belief... i do believe that they are not ignorant... and they are wise in their belief system. God exist What's your evidence |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 7:47am On Mar 31, 2023 |
peter0071: what does science state? Science doesn't believe we were created |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 7:47am On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic: I'm a Christian and I know the bible, I guess so are you too But all these are introduced after birth
I just recently moved to a Muslim community and I must confess that they're are just as holy as a good Christian
Does it mean all these people are going to hell if it truly exist ? Careful bro. You're one step away from being agnostic or even atheistic  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 7:46am On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic: You don't have a point Evil people enjoy the most Dont mind the guy |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 7:45am On Mar 31, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: 1) Yes! Law and Lawbooks and history books.
2) you can see here that Muslims are very desperate I trying to hang their book to the Bible, that should clearly tell you that the Bible is the One.
3) life on earth has already shown that hell visits evil people. 1. Which law and law books, sir? 2. Actually, Christianity copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh and other ancient scrolls. Islam copied from Christianity 3. You love this your hell narrative. I know lovely cusses await me so lemme gladly accept them before you start muttering them  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 7:42am On Mar 31, 2023 |
Westerhoffe: 1. Jeremiah 23 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ²³ Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off? ²⁴ Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.
Isaiah 45 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁵ I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: ⁶ That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. ⁷ I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. ⁸ Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it. ⁹ Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?
2. All you see around you, including you, are the handiwork of this same GOD, whose existence you're questioning.
3. There is no true religion. There is only a Way of Salvation, which is only found in Jesus Christ the Son of the Living GOD. All religions are either Satan or human inspired. Hence, whoever is made proselyte in them is made to believe theirs only is the right religion. That is why religion will only make you an hypocrite.
4. Yes. There is a place of rest for the souls who are found worthy to return to GOD. And there is a place where defiled souls are banished to, till the day of Judgment.
5. Karma might be termed vengeance. But if GOD did not permit it, you'd see the wicked flourish all their lives. Though, their wickedness we'll be requited of them, but that does not spare their seeds an escape from what their 'fathers' had done. Vengeance might be slow, but it might come. 1. Someone asks for evidence of Yahweh outside the bible, and you instantly procede to quote copiously from the same Bible. Whoa 2. What god are you talking about specifically? Flying Spaghetti Monster? 3. There is no true religion. There is only a Way of Salvation, which is only found in the Noodly Limbs of the Flying Spaghetti Monster . All religions are either Satan or human inspired. Hence, whoever is made proselyte in them is made to believe theirs only is the right religion. That is why religion will only make you an hypocrite. 4. Yes. There is a place of rest for the souls who are found worthy to return to Flying Spaghetti Monster . And there is a place where defiled souls are banished to, till the Pasta King returns. 5. Karma might be termed vengeance. But if Flying Spaghetti Monster did not permit it, you'd see the wicked flourish all their lives. Though, their wickedness we'll be requited of them, but that does not spare their seeds an escape from what their 'fathers' had done. Vengeance might be slow, but it might come. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 7:36am On Mar 31, 2023 |
tommy589: Not that I am religious but sometimes I receive some interesting intervention when I thought it could no longer be done. So, I believe a supreme force is sometimes involve in human affairs
I believe in reincarnation not hell Same way you can receive a supremely disheartening bad luck. Life works either way, bro. Sometimes luck or chance happens |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 7:34am On Mar 31, 2023 |
peter0071: Outside the scripture, even our traditions point out clearly that there is a Being that supercedes all. Taking a look at creations, they are all pointers that there is a creator 1. Those ancient folks believed that deities created natural disasters and fertility. They were ignorant and decided to say a god did it. Now science made us know better 2. Are you saying Eledumare, Chukwu, Thor are the same as Yahweh? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 7:31am On Mar 31, 2023 |
actoor: Yes. Sleeping and waking up is a Miracle and miracle is from God alone. No. Sleeping and waking up aint a miracle. There's a part of the brain that controls circadian rhythm and thus alerts your brain. It is connected to your Reticular Activating System(also in your brain) Also no, there's nothing like supernatural, and of course, nothing like a god |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 7:29am On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic: Is there God ? Apart from the holy book can you prove this? Which is the true religion Muslim or christian? Is there heaven or hell where bad people go? Lastly Nothing like karma 💯 No |
Christianity Etc › Re: Something Strange Is Happening On This Forum by jaephoenix(m): 7:28am On Mar 31, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Something Strange Is Happening On This Forum by jaephoenix(m): 7:24am On Mar 31, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Terrorism (not weapon maker) is condemned by the world so it's the New World that stood out as different from both of them.  What does this sentence mean? Lol. Still trying to muddy the water? I’m better than that. Make a coherent statement, bro |
Christianity Etc › Re: Help: My Girlfriend Has A Spiritual Husband by jaephoenix(m): 7:22am On Mar 31, 2023 |
Ynix: You talk like someone whose God is his belly. If Jesus fasted and prayed, his disciples fasted and prayed after his ascension.
Even Biological Sciences encourages fasting for boosting intelligence and removing toxins from the body and you call it mere starvation.
I wonder where you got your gospel from. I think you are having a delusion yourself.
You are far from the true understanding of the Holy Scriptures Bro, where was this study conducted? Can I have a link? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is well by jaephoenix(m): 7:02am On Mar 31, 2023 |
Righteousness2: Anoiting breaks the yoke. You and your brother should Go to the Lord's CHOSEN. I assure you that yoke will break . Another scammer speaks up |