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Image123:
You have a problem with it?

No. I'm good

OLAADEGBU:
Do the 'bible directives' say any different?

Yes. Read your bible

TenQ:
Thanks.
I am hoping you are truthful on this!

If I get you right, you won't unequivocally dismiss the experiences of people who claimed they saw/interacted with UFOs or experienced NDE with/without OBE!

1. Why?
2. But you don't have ANY compelling EVIDENCES?

Thanks

The simple answer is they dont provide evidences, only hearsays. That's not data.

TenQ:
I usually don't dodge any questions my dear except it is an omission. The only thing you may accuse me of is answering a question with another question when I feel that your answer is sufficient to answering the question.

I've missed you too: how's your day and work?
Stay fit!

Lol. You're a legend in question dodge. Example, I asked you to show me evidence of Yahweh, and how you know he's around, and you have been throwing tantrums thinking it'll dislodge me

jesusjnr2020:
So why is the percentage of HIV-positive gays much higher than that of the heterosexuals?

In other words why are gays more prone to the disease than the heterosexuals?

That's the point.

No sir. Its a lie. Staright folks have no HIV than gays. Simple Google search would straighten you. Lemme help you out, if you wont

TenQ:
I wish you understood just a kindergarten level science and it would have been worth it.

With no apologies dear,
Right now, you are just an ordinary wannabe Atheist!

Good day!

Lol. Stick to the debate, bro. Leave insults.
Answer the question and lets be merry
All these deflections won't work on me

MaxInDHouse:
Everywhere i go people i don't know have all become my family throughout the world simply because of the impact my God have on all His worshipers globally! Isaiah 2:2-4; Zephaniah 3:9 compare to Mark 10:28-30

Don't worry about the quotations it's for those that believe in God's word!



1. Just as you and i think differently so people finds it really difficult to believe that the source of divine wisdom is just one that all of us need to know and trust.

2. If you're cloned today the other copy may have everything in common with you but your love, hatred and jealousy can never match so when you die the other copy can't be you! Ecclesiastes 9:6

3. Your color or sound may change due to the advancement of technology but your love, hatred and jealousy can only change due to the power in the word of God {Hebrews 4:12} unless you have a permanent memory loss!

Lol, Max at his finest ignorance
1. So strangers becoming your family is attestation of yahweh's impact? So that means Brahma etc is also powerful since many monks who aren't related congregate under his name.
2. At the bolded, another gibberish. Read it and ask yourself if it makes sense. And if it makes sense, then rephrase
3. So my soul captures my psyche, emotions etc? I hope you know science can transfer that too

Image123:
Because He's everywhere, you forgot? If He puts His name everywhere or says to call His name everywhere, you'd still complain. Are you not tired of complaining through life?

Ok, since he's everywhere and puts his name everywhere, i guess he stole my money I left in my car. How can I get him to return it?

jesusjnr2020:
'Gay' seems to be the mother of 'HIV'.

No sir. In fact, 90% of HIV cases I have come across are heterosexual. Most are women(since they are more likely to contact it via Langerhans cells in their service) who got it from their philandering hubbies via sex, others blood transfusion etc

Techobeys:
The relation with homosexuality is that we can see that violence is as natural as homosexuality. If people get sent to prison bc of violence then they should be sent to prison for homosexuality too. The fact that you think it’s natural doesn’t make it permissible bc violence is as natural yet not permissible

Is being left handed natural? Or being able to roll the tongue?

triplechoice:
You keep lying all the time and boast you're educated

Where is the evidence he was openly gay and that his wife knew he was gay.

The focus should be on the king and not any other individual you think is pretending somewhere. You want to deflect.



The other time you lied his father forced him to get married and now this.

Please go away with your half education and lies.

Homosexualsl were the first to have anal sex and because of that the word ,adofuro was coined. That's what you claimed on this thread without any evidence. You should hide your face in Shame

1. Here is further proof of Mwanga's sexuality

Mwanga also attempted to reverse the conversion of his kingdom and executed the Christian converts within the court either by beheading or burning. There is an account of the event, “˜Black Martyrs’, written by a British Catholic priest called J.P Thoonen, which quotes a Buganda man called Kiwanuka (see John Blevins’ “When Sodomy Leads to Martyrdom” for a more complete account.) This introduces the parallel, but associated, element of homosexuality into the story of the martyrs: “At that time, the king practised the works of Sodom. Moslems and pagans were prepared to do those things with the king, but the Catholics absolutely refused. For that reason the king began to detest us, and deliberated with the pagans and Moslems about putting us to death, us the Catholics”. So, according to Thoonen, the martyrs refused to sleep with the probably bi-sexual Kabaka Mwanga because they were Christians, not because this kind of sexual practice was particularly unusual among the Baganda at the time.

As mentioned, the story of the Ugandan Martyrs has gained resonance of late due to the passing of the anti-homosexuality bill and the international controversy surrounding its latent and illiberal homophobia. President Museveni, whilst never keen on the legislation, did not let this stop him using the story of the martyrs’ refusal to submit to Mwanga’s own sexual proclivities for his own political gain. The president and his cabinet, along with other dignitaries and, of course, influential members of the Catholic Church in Uganda, attend the main Catholic mass on Martyrs Day, celebrated in the grounds of the Namugongo shrine. During his 2010 speech at the event, Museveni stated: “The African Church is the only one that is still standing against homo-sexuality. The Europeans are finished. If we follow them, we shall end up in Sodom and Gomorrah… I hear there was homosexuality in Mwanga’s palace. This was not part of our culture. I hear he learnt it from the Arabs. But the martyrs refused these falsehoods and went for the truth, which is why we are honouring them today.”

Museveni’s explanation that Mwanga “˜learnt it [homosexuality] from the Arabs’ is a fairly popular one, but Blevins argues that it is unlikely that Mwanga “˜learnt it’ from Muslims because they had little influence on his court. This followed the execution of over 70 Muslim converts under Mwanga’s father, Mutesa, a decade earlier. Like Christianity, Islam was seen as a threat to Mwanga’s political control of his kingdom

https://africanarguments.org/2014/03/from-mwanga-to-museveni-sex-politics-and-religion-in-uganda-by-magnus-taylor/

2. Further evidence of homosexuality in precolonial Africa.
In Lesotho, females engage in what is commonly considered intimate behavior to the Western world: they kiss, sleep together, rubgenitals, participate in cunnilingus, and maintain their relationshipswith other females vigilantly. Since the people of Lesotho believe sexrequires a penis, however, they do not consider their behavior sexual,nor label themselves lesbians. (Lesbianism in Africa, 1)
Armand Marie Corre, a 1870 French general, complained about Senegalese attitudes towards gay sex (too relaxed) and still by 1960 17% of Dakar's men declared to have been with a gor-digen ("man-women". The government eventually clamped down.
Other examples of queer men are the Mugawe of the Meru (Kenya) which married other men at times, Dagara "spiritual gatekeeper" queer men (Burkina Faso) and the Omasenge oracles of the Ovambo (Angola) who all dressed and acted like women in their societies. (Ovambo men)
Some historical mentions of sex among African women are very specific, such as Wilfred's Hambley's 1937 writing on Zanzibar's artificial joysticks used between women.
South Africa's Balobedu still have a custom called "The Rain Queen" which is a title that has been passed on for centuries and such woman, among other things, cannot marry a man but is allowed to marry several women.
Same-sex marriage, especially woman-woman marriage was a frequent occurrence across Africa, such as for Kikuyu (Kenya) women, Igbo women (Nigeria) and Fon women (Benin).
Other examples of queer men are the Mugawe of the Meru (Kenya) which married other men at times, Dagara "spiritual gatekeeper" queer men (Burkina Faso) and the Omasenge oracles of the Ovambo (Angola) who all dressed and acted like women in their societies.
https://twitter.com/AllanCudicio/status/1278007678984499201?t=B8fBXuM_o_Ao4p0xK6olzA&s=19

3. About Adufuro, I'm not yoruba, but you can always ask about it. Heterosexual anal sex was was predated by homosexual anal sex. You can educate yourself by reading up the history of sex(as a whole) cos it looks like your ignorance is turning cancerous

HUMANIIST:
Happy atheist day to all atheist ❤️❤️

I never knew there's an Atheist Day. Had to Google it. Oh well.. That means I shouldn't have been to work yesterday

OLAADEGBU:
The US constitution, for instance, was written based on His Law.

Oh no (face palm)
The same constitution that backs gays, trannies, abortion etc.
Nigga youre clearly tripping

OLAADEGBU:
Jesus is the lawgiver of the land.

What is this one saying? Which land? Are you aware some laws are pro-LGBTQ? Did Jesus give it?
These theists are something else

OLAADEGBU:
Do the 'bible directives' say any different?

So if Nigeria constitution directs that all Christians stop reading the bible and praying, would you oblige?

Wilgrea7:
I by no means consider myself an overall judge on failure or success. I simply reported things as I found them. You've dodged my questions a fair number of times when pressed on these issues, hence my statement.

But nonetheless, it's always a pleasure engaging with you. I hope you're doing great.

Dude is a good dodger. I give it to him. As slippery as a slippery slope fallacy

Wilgrea7:
You seem to have missed my point. Every argument you try to use in favor of your book as some sort of credible evidence, can be used by others in favor of their contradictory book.

A muslim can claim to have known and tested his koran as well. same as a hindu or a sihk. Statements like this rarely do anything to move the discussion forward.

If you point to a verse in the bible that claims Yahweh created humans, a hindu can point to an opposing verse saying brahma did so, and a muslim can do the same in regards to Allah. if you want to point to scripture, which is an unsubstantiated claim, then you must provide some sort of evidence to back it up.

You really are a sweet soul. Taking your time to explain to this dude. He won't understand you, its as simple as that. He's in too deep in the deep end of religion. He's a heartbeat away from shooting you to death if you continue questioning his Yahweh. He's said so severally

MaxInDHouse:
SOUL means CHARACTER!

Your mother is a woman that we can find millions of mothers having the same skin color, height, weight and status exactly like your mom but she can't be replaced in your life not that we can't find other women like her but she is whom she has proved to be to your all your life: Mother!

So there's nothing anyone can use to replace her in your life. That's what a soul means not something that continue existing when her heart stops beating. Ezekiel 18:4

1. How come the definition of soul differs from person to person?
2. How come soul is what is differentiating people? Does it have color or sound?

TenQ:
Thanks for the indirect complement. When I debate Muslims, I use their Qur'an, Tafsirs and Hadiths.
When I debate Atheists, I am compelled to use LOGIC and SCIENCE!
It is only logical since the Bible and the Faith is Fairy tale to you.

Unfortunately, you are not in a position to judge my failure or not.

Peace!

We are not judging you, its science and logic that judges you. Those enitites have rules which you break, so how can you marry them with religion

MaxInDHouse:
GOD simply means SUPREME BEING even if i have never met Buhari one on one his forces are evidence that Buhari exist the evidence that my God exist is the works His Witnesses are actively doing throughout the earth! Isaiah 43:10-12
So if anyone feels that's not evidence enough let such a person prove something else exist when people throughout the earth can feel it's impact!

How are YOU feeling his impact

Dtruthspeaker:
This is you being making a fool of yourself in thinking you can put a trailer's alternator in a Keke marwa just because you think it.

You started off being reasonable, stay reasonable.

The Bible I know because I have tested it and therefore I represent it. I do not know the others nor do I represent them and in recognition of this is why you asked this question. Thus, each party is supposed to make their own case as they see fit, within the Laws of debate.

And you know this but because you already know that I would give answers you can not validly counter, therefore you are already violently agitated and already primed to insult because you already know that already I have shown that you have done a wrong already.

Lol

Wilgrea7:
I'm going to repeat everything you said just so you could see the absurdity in it. This time, I'll replace "Bible" with Koran

This is you giving your opinion (judgment) (where it is wrong in the case of the Koran) and your judgement is not based on Law but on your personal preference (which of course we all know first hand) aka bias. And every biased judgement is invalid.

So you see, you are already wrong in pre-judging a matter even before you heard it.

Now do you see how empty your statement sounds?

Engaging DTruthSpeaker in a logical debate is an excellent exercise in futility. Worse is getting him to understand scientific phenomena, and to make matters worse, he's an extremist. An ignorant religious extremist is disaster. Dude is as smart as a brick wall
And he says he's a lawyer. Like wtf

Dtruthspeaker:
This is you giving your opinion (judgment) (where it is wrong in the case of the Bible) and your judgement is not based on Law but on your personal preference (which of course we all know first hand) aka bias. And every biased judgement is invalid.

So you see, you are already wrong in pre-judging a matter even before you heard it.

Say no to drugs

Wilgrea7:
I've debated TenQ a few times here. He seems like a well learned person, especially when compared to other theists here like thetruthspeaker.

I've noticed he tries to merge scientific knowledge with Christian theology, especially on issues like morality and the existence of his specific God.. although so far he has repeatedly failed to do so.

True he's smarter than DTruthSpeaker, Max, Oladegbu and our regular theists here, but he fails time after time to merge religion with science and logic

Dtruthspeaker:
Men, I am tired of your very stupid questions, you are too stupid continually for me to bear. So please, unless you have a very intelligent thing to say, something which your betters will ask, don't mention me.

Can you answer the question

Dtruthspeaker:
Men, I am tired of your very stupid questions, you are too stupid continually for me to bear. So please, unless you have a very intelligent thing to say, something which your betters will ask, don't mention me.

Lawag3

budaatum:
Never heard of it. Read the [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes]The Emperor's New Clothes[/url] though, many many times from about 5 years old as I had a wonderful copy of Hans Christian Andersen's Complete Fairy Tales and Stories.

Handed it down to my 4 siblings who all read it till it fell apart.

Its another name for the book.
It exactly represents religion. Go through it

Rosemaiden:
Keep that to yourself.

I have experience of what I believe. If you don't have experience, keep that to yourself.

Do you know schizophrenic patients have 'experience' too? Same as patients on hallucinogenic drugs like LSD?
So personal experiences aren't facts.

TenQ:
It is wisdom for you to set up a STRAWMAN and expect me to answer you!?

Thanks for your time!

You don't even know what a strawman is. And to make matters worse, you throw a special pleading fallacy.
I'm not employing a strawman because my question is a direct representation of the issue. The issue is about a disputed entity, and the question is a directly associated with distinct entities

TenQ:
Even though I don't feel responding to you, however you have used a terrible set of STRAWMAN questions. Why?
These are ALL fictitious and known examples.

How about this:
1. Can you unequivocally dismiss ALL UFO sightings and experiences as a Hoax?
Note:
-You've personally never seen a UFO
-No government has shown us any clear pictures of a UFO

Your answers should be YES or NO!

2. Can you unequivocally dismiss ALL NDE as Hoax?
Note:
-You've never experienced one
-Recorded Experiences seem to be slightly different
-some kind of OBE and NDE can be simulated with drugs

Your answers should be YES or NO!

This is closer to religion than your Unicorn and Mars STRAWMAN examples!

You may after stating YES or NO justify your position.

You have an uncanny knack of dodging questions. Just answer my questions and we'll extrapolate from there

Rosemaiden:
I don't have any experience related to the above, so I don't believe them.

Exactly. That's how atheism is. We have no experience or evidence of your god, or any god. So we dont believe they exist

Ken4Christ:
Eternity is real. The stories in the Bible are true. Please, give your life to Christ and avoid the burning hell.

No they arent real. Scientifically and historically