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SeriouslySense:
that's because you are likely very sure of yourself and no answer will convince you. You have not even made any attempt to learn of the evidences, yet you expect to find it at once on nairaland. So it looks like you just want to argue and convince yourself that your are right and that we are wrong.

So what need is there to even try to explain why he really resurrected

Of course its only a deluded christian that would say this. So where do I look for the answer? In a bible that is not historically and scientifically backed, and is filled with contradictions?

TenQ:
Do you know anything about Josephus?

His deposition has shown to be a fake. I have said it in different threads

Gaskiya77:
The resurrection story in the Bible is real not factual.

How do u know

delkuf:
That same document is what is written in the bible.

Lol. Imagine Tinubu's case being carried by only one newspaper in Nigeria

Steep:
What is the evidence of Jesus resurrection?

First of all, it is an established fact of history that Jesus really exist, even the Jewish nation that hated Jesus and Christianity do not deny the fact.
Secondly, Did they kill Jesus? Yes even atheists scholars agree that Jesus was killed.
But however, the bone of contention was his resurrection, the jews claim Jesus body was stolen to make it appear as if he really resurrected but however, the body could not have being stolen by Jesus disciples because his body was well guarded by the authorities.

The early Christians could not have passed through horric persecution rejection and death just to protect a lie, for what benefit?

People do something for one benefit or the order, for what benefit would the christians lie,? On the other hand the price they paid was so high that it defies all reasoning unless perhaps Jesus indeed was raised.
Christianity is not about worldly power, position, money or any other benefit, for what benefit?
Unless on that christ really rose hence their willingliness to die for the truth.

Which history books quoted Jesus?
Correction. The atheist scholars weren't sure Jesus lived. Go and recheck

Inteltower:
close that your mouth

isnt sin evident all around us that emanates from man
so because exposed what sin is you have nothing meaningful but to be against them

your kind loves darkness more than light
Sin is the main problem of all men if you cant acknowledge that i dont have time for you

You're confusing sin with crime.
Is adultery a crime in many countries? No. Is it a sin? Yes.
Learn to think.
Oddly enough, both crimes and sins are more rampant in religious countries like Nigeria, compared to less religious ones like the UK

SeriouslySense:
I know with high certainty, because there are evidences.

But some Christians don't even consider the evidences, therefore his answer, which is also a good answer

Jesus resurrected from the dead. I am very sure

Again, I ask. Where are your evidence? I have asked this question like 4 times on this thread alone, yet no answer

TenQ:
Simple Questions:
Historically were Christians persecuted and tortured for their faith?
What was their faith?

There was a note by an Roman governor about some Christians. He didn't go into details

blazepascal:
everything

Example

Jahlivesforever:
In the next 2000 years, those who will be alive can claim that the fact that Tinubu rigged the 2023 election is one of those myths even when they read the compilation of all the newspaper that are talking about it now.

In such a case like Tinubu's, there would be documented evidence as described in the newspaper. Not in the case of Jesus

mikmash:
Because we believe.

Exactly. You were told and you believed by faith. You don't know for sure

chudez0147:
😂. How old are you ?

Old enough to be your pops

chudez0147:
I can't remember the Bible chapter .

Again I ask, did you write JAMB?

chudez0147:
Some things are not made for our understanding

Another regular theist lie.
How do you know some things aren't meant for our understanding? How do you know we don't understand it, in the first place?

chudez0147:
Yes he resurrected. It was a prophesy

Quote a non biblical source

Jahlivesforever:
How can I show you evidence of how your grand father murdered his wife and was banished from the village?

Those who saw him do the crime, talked about it, and wrote it down. You chose not to accept their testimony because you you know your family reputation was founded on murder.

I ask you, set out to proove those who wrote the crime down.

A lot of myth exist, which I'm sure you're aware. How can you decipher them from true stories?

chudez0147:
Because he resurrected

Did you write JAMB?

Odebayo4010:
Go and read Matthew 27 vs27

Quote a non biblical source

Jahlivesforever:
Am happy you have accepted that many newspapers carried it.

Now you shift to whether they copied what they published or not?

Bro. It was oral tradition.

Before it was written.

Carried by one newspaper. The bible

Jahlivesforever:
And you don't have a personal contact with the supreme , because you are only an animal like every other wide or domestic animal.

Enjoy your gift

Tell me, what is the benefit of this 'personal contact' to you?

Jahlivesforever:
2023 BC
2023 AD

Is that one Bible?

Those dating system was started by Roman monks(who are obviously christians) and wasn't used to depict any birth of Jesus. Maybe you can research on them

phemmyfour:
Evidence exist cos I know you don't believe in written evidence

Where are they

Jahlivesforever:
Before it was written, it was an oral tradition.

I believe the story of your village and how your fore father who was banished from his original village and came seeking for refuge in the place you now called your own town is bullshit.

And any book that recorded the story of your forefather banishment (for giving a baby poison )is also bullshit

Are you aware they may be myths? Some people would tell you their great grand fathers used to hunt lions, elephants with bare hands. Or the Yoruba story that Oduduwa(or someone like that, I'm not Yoruba) descended from heaven from a rope. Of course you should believe them

Jahlivesforever:
I challenge you to set out and do a book to disprove that Jesus rose from the death.

That was how I did my own. I don't believe pastors and preachers and I am not too. They misrepresent God many times.

Do a research and assume that he did not rise.

If you have no time for such, you can as well keep your opinion to yourself because it's not clear and personal opinion.

Lol. Typical theist. You said Jesus lived and resurrected. I tell you to show me evidence. You turn around to tell me to prove there’s no evidence. Lol.
Look, he who alleges must provide proof.

Jahlivesforever:
You just chose to Ignore the personal testimonies of thousands of people across the world.

So I don't see openness in your inquiry.

Same way there are personal testimonies of thousands of Muslims, Buddhists, Hinduists etc all claiming their favorite sky daddy is da bomb

Jahlivesforever:
Brother. Bible simply means a collection of different books. A kind of a library of related subject matter.

In your own words, it's the collection of different newspapers that carried the story.

So what is the trouble?

And it was written many years after they supposedly happened.
Do you know the bible was copied? Check out Epic of Gilgamesh

Akwamkpuruamu:
Remember their were Roman soldiers guarding his grave. How could the fearful disciples who were MIA come back to steal his body under the guard of the Fierce Roman soldiers? How did it happen please?

First, prove Jesus actually lived(outside the Bible)

Franking:
If you believe in Christ then you are a Christian. You are blinded by faith. And what is faith? If Jesus resurrection was real you won't have to believe it, you will simply know it. Science journals publish results of experiments not results of belief systems.

The Jesus story is the greatest scam of all times.

A multi trillion dollar scam that has been continued for centuries

TenQ:
1. Evidence from His immediate followers and disciples
2. Reactions of His immediate followers and disciples in face of persecution
3. Evidence of Christ working in ME (or any other Christian) because the believe in Christ

1. Its written in the Bible, whose authenticity is debated.
2. Ditto
3. Same way a Muslim, Hinduist, Buddhist would say their own god works in them. Which all translates to bullshit

abimic:
If you had watched Legend of the Seeker, you would know some things are meant to happen for the prophecy to be fulfilled.

Jesus predicted his death and resurrection.

The Book of Jonah was written about 760 BC. Almost eight centuries before Jesus was born and Jonah predicted Jesus' death, and his resurrection citing a case study of his.

So there was no way Jesus would not have risen.

We need evidence sir

Jahlivesforever:
It's not true. Jesus is a historical figure. You can still go and verify it today. Besides, your date confeses that Jesus is a historical figure. He was born on our world.

We are in 2023. There has been 2023 before.


So we have 2023 BC and 2023 AD

BC and AD is before Jesus Christ and after Jesus Christ.

Simple history should solve your problem if you are sincere.

We use BCE and CE now for dating after we realized the whole Jesus story was a myth

nero2face:
how did u know ur a male or female ?

It can be ascertained anytime anyday