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Dtruthspeaker:
This is you being making a fool of yourself in thinking you can put a trailer's alternator in a Keke marwa just because you think it.

You started off being reasonable, stay reasonable.

The Bible I know because I have tested it and therefore I represent it. I do not know the others nor do I represent them and in recognition of this is why you asked this question. Thus, each party is supposed to make their own case as they see fit, within the Laws of debate.

And you know this but because you already know that I would give answers you can not validly counter, therefore you are already violently agitated and already primed to insult because you already know that already I have shown that you have done a wrong already.

Lol

Wilgrea7:
I'm going to repeat everything you said just so you could see the absurdity in it. This time, I'll replace "Bible" with Koran

This is you giving your opinion (judgment) (where it is wrong in the case of the Koran) and your judgement is not based on Law but on your personal preference (which of course we all know first hand) aka bias. And every biased judgement is invalid.

So you see, you are already wrong in pre-judging a matter even before you heard it.

Now do you see how empty your statement sounds?

Engaging DTruthSpeaker in a logical debate is an excellent exercise in futility. Worse is getting him to understand scientific phenomena, and to make matters worse, he's an extremist. An ignorant religious extremist is disaster. Dude is as smart as a brick wall
And he says he's a lawyer. Like wtf

Dtruthspeaker:
This is you giving your opinion (judgment) (where it is wrong in the case of the Bible) and your judgement is not based on Law but on your personal preference (which of course we all know first hand) aka bias. And every biased judgement is invalid.

So you see, you are already wrong in pre-judging a matter even before you heard it.

Say no to drugs

Wilgrea7:
I've debated TenQ a few times here. He seems like a well learned person, especially when compared to other theists here like thetruthspeaker.

I've noticed he tries to merge scientific knowledge with Christian theology, especially on issues like morality and the existence of his specific God.. although so far he has repeatedly failed to do so.

True he's smarter than DTruthSpeaker, Max, Oladegbu and our regular theists here, but he fails time after time to merge religion with science and logic

Dtruthspeaker:
Men, I am tired of your very stupid questions, you are too stupid continually for me to bear. So please, unless you have a very intelligent thing to say, something which your betters will ask, don't mention me.

Can you answer the question

Dtruthspeaker:
Men, I am tired of your very stupid questions, you are too stupid continually for me to bear. So please, unless you have a very intelligent thing to say, something which your betters will ask, don't mention me.

Lawag3

budaatum:
Never heard of it. Read the [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes]The Emperor's New Clothes[/url] though, many many times from about 5 years old as I had a wonderful copy of Hans Christian Andersen's Complete Fairy Tales and Stories.

Handed it down to my 4 siblings who all read it till it fell apart.

Its another name for the book.
It exactly represents religion. Go through it

Rosemaiden:
Keep that to yourself.

I have experience of what I believe. If you don't have experience, keep that to yourself.

Do you know schizophrenic patients have 'experience' too? Same as patients on hallucinogenic drugs like LSD?
So personal experiences aren't facts.

TenQ:
It is wisdom for you to set up a STRAWMAN and expect me to answer you!?

Thanks for your time!

You don't even know what a strawman is. And to make matters worse, you throw a special pleading fallacy.
I'm not employing a strawman because my question is a direct representation of the issue. The issue is about a disputed entity, and the question is a directly associated with distinct entities

TenQ:
Even though I don't feel responding to you, however you have used a terrible set of STRAWMAN questions. Why?
These are ALL fictitious and known examples.

How about this:
1. Can you unequivocally dismiss ALL UFO sightings and experiences as a Hoax?
Note:
-You've personally never seen a UFO
-No government has shown us any clear pictures of a UFO

Your answers should be YES or NO!

2. Can you unequivocally dismiss ALL NDE as Hoax?
Note:
-You've never experienced one
-Recorded Experiences seem to be slightly different
-some kind of OBE and NDE can be simulated with drugs

Your answers should be YES or NO!

This is closer to religion than your Unicorn and Mars STRAWMAN examples!

You may after stating YES or NO justify your position.

You have an uncanny knack of dodging questions. Just answer my questions and we'll extrapolate from there

Rosemaiden:
I don't have any experience related to the above, so I don't believe them.

Exactly. That's how atheism is. We have no experience or evidence of your god, or any god. So we dont believe they exist

Ken4Christ:
Eternity is real. The stories in the Bible are true. Please, give your life to Christ and avoid the burning hell.

No they arent real. Scientifically and historically

Starlight252:
Thousands of gods with devoted worshippers, all because of the supposed supremacy these gods portray...

My thought is that these gods has some powers (real or illusioned) which they mask as supremacy...

That power is an illusion

Kentuforchrist:
Bible prophecy is being fulfilled

Judgement day will be very scary

Which prophesy

Dtruthspeaker:
Yes He is.

And He is The God of Israel and Africa and this world, so what is the problem?

Same Israel that kept on rejecting him? Same Israel that is his own people? Someone is lying

DodadaKoKigbe:
No be by praise and worship. Team wey good, good. There are atheists team in Europe that will defeat Super Eagles black and blue.

God does not take sides in football.

I thought god said 'Ask and it shall be given to you'. He wasn't specific on what shall be asked for, was he?

Dtruthspeaker:
You can not exclude evidence which is allowed by the Evidence Act especially when this God knowledge is is a Truth which was seen and experienced by those who were there, in the past, which was handed down to us, hence the Bible cannot be excluded as evidence.

Is the bible used as evidence in court?

budaatum:
I wish I were a theist of the sort you request so I can tell you how impossible it is to prove a thing to blind person who can not see. Great pity.it is indeed.

Still, I hope theists are smarter than to fall for your weak bait, though I wouldn't hold my breathe too much.

Read The Emperor without clothes

Wilgrea7:
Hello everyone,

It's been a while. Hope you all are doing well. I'll get straight to the point.

In just about every religious debate, theists, i.e Christians, Muslims etc, seem to claim not only that a God exists and created us, but that their specific God is the one who is responsible for said creation, and no one else.

I believe it's time to put that claim to the test. So this is very simple.

For the sake of this discussion, I will accept that a "higher power" exists. Now, all the theist needs to do, is to prove that the specific God they worship is indeed the higher power responsible for the universe.

In other words.. I'm not asking you to prove that A God exists.. I'm asking you to prove that YOUR specific God exists, and that it is indeed the creator of the universe, and not someone or something else.

For example, you are to prove that Yahweh or Vishnu is the creator of the universe, as opposed to Allah, or Ra, or Zeus.

Things that do not count as proof

1. Quoting religious scripture (anyone from any faith could do that.. it doesn't prove anything)
2. Saying "i feel it in my heart"
3. Obscure and unambiguous data masked under the term "scientific"

I'll stop here for now


Theists... The floor is yours

There's one nigga I'm currently engaged in this particular topic, TenQ . Dude, uses the bolded to project that god and specifically Yahweh exists. Even though his grasp of science is questionable at best, it still doesn't stop him

triplechoice:
The same people( white Christian colonialists) who erected the monument for the boys were the same people that accuse him, without any evidence, of sleeping with the boys and displaying the lifestyle openly.

Even if it were true he slept with the boys, it still doesn't make sense to describe him as an openly gay man. He was married to several women. Gay men don't marry women.

Why do you prefer the tag ,openly gay , for him Instead of the more correct description bisexual?

Bro, some gay people marry. They don't enjoy the sex with opposite sex. There are many instances where men/women discover their spouses are gay, after years of marriage. In this man's case, even his wives knew he was gay but stuck with him because of the class and power he wields.
It doesn't take a lot to educate oneself these days, but some people like you decide not to

Kobojunkie:
1. Brought evil from where abeg?

2. And how exactly did Satan acquire this free will you easily bestow on him in the world that was supposedly created by God alone?

3. You are kidding, right? God didn't create Evil but because God created Satan, God then had to be blamed for all that Satan created. So, Satan has the ability to create the same as God?

4. Free will will be put to test? Abeg, where una dey get these una ideas from cause none of it comes close to what is in fact stated in scripture?

The way you twist and turn something that is black and white is interesting. The verse clearly stated Yahweh created evil. But somehow, you still say he didn't. I prefer your atheist part to your theist part. At least that part understands English language

KnownUnknown:
How come they never have sky mommies?! Then sky mommy would have an only begotten daughter and that’s the type of goddess I can get behind

You have a point bro. Would change my position

Starlight252:
Most "gods" claim and "act" supremacy. To act supreme, verrisimilitude is needed. Do you catch my drift? All the efforts is perhaps to obtain something the worshippers do not understand...

The Source is too profound to compete with gods.

No, I don't catch your drift

Rosemaiden:
You said it all.

Mrs Said it all

Answer this question.
Do you believe
1. I live in Mars and fly to Earth everyday for work?
2. Do you believe a black unicorns exist?

TenQ:
Empty barrels they say make the loudest noise. They want to peddle a rhetoric of a Christian proving the existence of God while they dodge any attempt to make them prove the contrary.

A true atheist is one who either
1. Consciously reject God
2. Has enough evidence to conclude that God doesn't exist.

The first is possible but the second is impossible for it assumes you have extraordinary complete knowledge of the Universe.
3. Agnostics are at best Jokers!

Answer this question.
Do you believe
1. I live in Mars and fly to Earth everyday for work?
2. Do you believe a black unicorns exist?

Rosemaiden:
Where are they links I dropped? Did my post hit you this hard?

Sorry, I thought u were the guy we were chatting with about the Bible. Apologies

Rosemaiden:
You x-rayed them bro. They'll be cherry picking responses, read biased interpretations into references and take sentences out of context when they're face to face with facts. Afterwards, they'll be claiming smartness based on falsehood. You'll see that in their arguments with fxmasterz here. They're never sincere with themselves. Very dishonest Atheists.

See this one
Like your theist friend, you cannot provide a simple evidence of any Bible event. Instead you keep on dropping half assed links that ultimately prove you wrong

TenQ:
Who decides who does a poor job of using science and logic? YOU!?

If your science had been just a little up it would have been good for you. Your inability to comprehend simple logic with elementary science is at best appalling.
It would have even been better if you were just a little more sincere and honest with the implication of deductions you'd have found yourself in only that you will AVOID implicating consequences of answering a direct questions while you cherry pick what to respond to.

Is LordReed your mentor and pastor in the religion of atheism?
SMH!

When you are ready to respond honestly to questions, call me!
Shior!!

It may sound stupid to you theists, but atheism isn’t based on mentorship or appealing to authority. Everyone is born with a brain. Develop and use it to analyze the world around you.
Back to your post content, I kept on asking you to provide evidence of your Yahweh existence and you keep pushing me to science, which you have a poor grasp.
You even said all the gods in the world is Yahweh, displaying your desperation for acceptance

Starlight252:
Yahweh is not the source of evil [/b]and good since he is not the Origin of Existence. Perhaps he could cause them.
For those who believe he is the Origin of Existence, they claim he is only good yet omniprescent, omniscient and omnipotent. Such contradictions baffles me a lot. Well, that's what faith is -believe...

Yet he boldly said this, without any coercion

[b]Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things
How do you marry the 2 sentences?
Yeah, Faith basically means don't think, leave logic and reasoning alone, and believe what an ancient book and scammy old men says

Bacteriologist:
I find this hard to believe. The Bible says god did not want man to be alone that's why he created a woman.

The institution of marriage is well advocated for many times in the bible. Particularly in the Old testament. And so is child bearing. "Go into the world and multiply."

Have you actually read the bible?

Guessing by his post, none

Templee333:
please try to read and understand

That would be a stressful task on poor DTruthSpeaker's delicate brain. Have mercy

Starlight252:
Evil is whatever is unfavourable in a particular situation... Murder, enslavement, rape, corruption, violence etc are termed as such because of their effects on us.....

Good. Hope you know Yahweh created them all. At least he confessed in Isaiah