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TenQ:
I didn't dodge ANY of your Questions. You were in fact the one who dodged my questions.

1. I called the Creator by His Title as the Uncaused First-Cause of Everything; He is my God. People call Him different names depending on their language and tribe.

2. If you had answered my questions, you would not have asked such a myopic question

3. It is your opinion and you are welcome to it. God is an Immaterial Being called Spirit who is the Uncaused First-Cause of Everything. This is the best description I can give to you.

Now, will you now answer my question?

1. Do you think the law of entropy allows matter to exist forever?
2. Do you think the laws of physics applies before the big bang?
3. Can the laws of Physics and Chemistry exist without matter?

My questions
1. Ok, from your declarations, I guess Eledumare, Chineke, Thor, Allah, Huitzilopochtli, Viracocha etc is your god. Nice. I'll keep that in mind going forward
2. You have been dodging this question. Answer it in its entirety
3. Good. Again, how did you arrive at these appellations and characters?

Now for your questions
1. Entropy increases as life continues. Entropy too has limitations
2. I don't know. I guess you don't
3. No

Lateefadewale:
True. I think he's also a troll. No one can be that stupid on purpose...

I have studied him. I think he's serious, as in seriously stupidly. He can't stop being daft. And the interesting thing is he thinks he's right

FxMasterz:
That's because you don't want to accept you're wrong. Neither have you done anything to prove me wrong as well.

What I know is that you guys have deliberately chosen perdition to yourselves. It's a pity that you would drag your innocent children into your errors. I'll leave you to your fate.

Ok bro. Thanks for your concern.

Techobeys:
Well if you say you know psychology, then you should know that certain perspective of psychology think violence is inborn and can be harnessed for social purposes.

And for insinuating that you’re gay , I’m sorry if you do not like it.

Its psychological theories. Everyone has an element of violence, and have a trigger threshold. But by and large, no one accepts violence

Isobug:
Sure..... Only fools say in their hearts, there is no God

Which god precisely

Kayouzka:
Perhaps they don't accept the Christian and Muslim version of God

But surely the subconscious mind don't lie and each of our subconscious mind knows that there's God just that, God is not superficial and judgemental the real God do not judge. Now, if we ask what is the ultimate being? I will say that it our awareness, without awareness there is no existence and the mind cannot comprehend this being because he is not a being, every concept of God be it Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc, sorry to say, is idolation if not the idolation of objects or a thing it the idolation of the mind because the mind can't know God. (Check Buddhism the Godless religion and the difference from olodumare and orisha in IFA)
Then what is God? "I KNOW but if you ask me I do not know" same as you all.

thealleyesistheeyeofgod.

Just one question….
How often do you kush?

TenQ:
1. How do I know?
-Everything that is physical has an origin!
-Everything that is Physical has an end
-Physical things cannot create themselves.
2. The Uncaused First-Cause of Everything is He who created Everything and He is the one I call my God.

3. My God is NOT physical and hence doesn't have a beginning or an end. This is why He is called The Uncaused First-Cause of Everything aka God!



1. Do you think the law of entropy allows matter to exist forever?
2. Do you think the laws of physics applies before the big bang?

You dodged one question.
1.How do you know your favorite sky daddy was the actual creator? Remember there are thousands of creators
2.Why do you demarcate your sky daddy from the laws of physics
3. Since you cannot prove your sky daddy exists, can you explain his properties and how did you arrive at such?

FxMasterz:
Wrong!

Well, you've done nothing to prove us wrong, bro

Techobeys:
With due respect sir, you don’t know about the human psyche more than me. What you know is human body and not psyche so kindly retract you statement.

Violence is natural, in psychoanalysis, everything is just violence and a doctor and a thief are channeling their violence differently.

So what you saying is not reasonable. The fact that society accept one thing does not make it rational.

Do you understand that you insulting me and calling my brain dim is also violence? Bc Is this continues, it’ll culminate to the level of physical violence. Verbal violence are as destructive as physical ones.

Gay is can be viewed as a disease if you think kleptomania is also a disease. The fact that society accepts one and hates the other does not make it rational.

Kindly, study these things more rationally pls. I hope you know that you saying you’re not gay doesn’t actually mean you’re not one.

1. I dont know the human psyche, only the body? Pray sir, are you a psychiatrist, psychologist or neuroscientist? Youre saying a physician doesn't understand psychiatry? Wtf? Are you for real?
2. This is the definition of violence
The intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, that either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment or deprivation
And there is no mention of verbal aspect of it. I don't understand what you mean by thief and doctor expressing their violence differently. Please shed more light.
3. What is rational about stealing or kleptomania? Are they accepted by society? No.
4. You insinuated I'm gay with this…
So if you think none of these vices should be accepted, why should homosexuality be accepted over violence. [b]You need to study beyond your biases and desires to sleep with men. [/b]Violence is as natural as homosexuality, if you’ll fight for one to be accepted, then fight for the other too otherwise stop this nonsense pls.

… and I dont like it

triplechoice:
What you copied directly from the article written by the gay rights activist, Bisi Alimi, are gay propoganda; false narratives. None of it supports your wild claims that in the past Africa was a hotbed of homosexuality and that we were also immersed in it.

In the first place, the Yoruba word, adofuro, only describes anal sex and not homosexuality. Homosexuals are not the only ones to engage anal sex. Some men who aren't gays also have anal sex with either a male or female partner. The author of the article has placed the word,homosexual, in quotes because he is not certain if the word , adofuro, actually describes that. He Just gave his own subjective interpretation of it.

Secondly, the fact we had few effeminate men in the northern part of Nigeria who could marry is still not enough for your generalisation. There's no evidence whatsoever of such men living together with any man as "husband and wife" similar to the culture of homosexuality currently practiced in the Western world.The men were open to have sex with anybody, married and unmarried men ,and not cohabiting with anyone.

Furthermore, the claim that king Mwaga 11 was openly gay is one of those false narratives meant to deceive the gullible public. The King never at anytime declared he was gay. There's no evidence he flaunted that lifestyle . None of his subjects confirmed he was having sex with any man.

So, where did the rumor that he was openly gay emanate from?

It came from the false accusation placed on him by white Christian colonialists . He was accused , without any evidence, of sleeping with some young men whom he had actually executed for converting to Christianity. The King put up a strong resistance against colonial rule and Christianity, and for that , they set him up in order to remove him and have their way.

It was a case of giving a dog a bad name in order to hang it. The information being withheld from the public is the fact that the king was married to sixteen different women who produced many children for him. Why then would anyone in their right senses describe such a man as openly gay is something very difficult to understand. Even if it was true he slept with other men, that still doesn't make him homosexual. He was married to women.

https://theafricanroyalfamilies.com/


Finally, artworks depicting men having sex with other men doesn't confirm anything. Artworks are produced for a number of reasons which are usually not known except by the person who actually produced them. If we don't know the actual reason for which an artwork was created, we can't just speculate using our personal experiences or from our own view point, and then try to force what we arrived at on others as evidence of something.

In certain parts of Africa, especially in sub Saharan Africa, it's believed that male members of some secret cults engaged in anal sex with other men either for acquiring mystical powers or as part of initiatory rites into such societies. So, it's possible those art depictions represents such beliefs or something else we don't even know.

I'm not against homosexuals. Why should I? I don't subscribe to any religious text that instruct its readers to condemn them. What I'm against are the misinformation , half truths and outright lies being dished out concerning the issue.

It's insulting to our collective intelligence as Africans to sit down and watch, without reacting, while some outsiders, in conjunction with our own people, are trying desperately to rewrite our own history.



King Mwaga 11 was the first prominent African to come out as gay? Oh!

Exactly the same tactics being used by some individuals and Christian groups; Jesus was a black man, he was from Africa, infact the Bible was written by the Yorubas, there's a word for the devil in Yoruba and blah blah blah.


Not everyone is fooled.

Below is where you directly copied from.

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/09/being-gay-african-history-homosexuality-christianity

1. Oh yes, Africa was on bed with homosexuality. Back then it was accepted. Adufuro means anal sex but which sexual orientation started it before heterosexuals? Homosexuals. That's why that word was coined. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudoko_dako
2. There's a copious amount of history of effeminate African men getting married to men. You can Google it and blow your mind. In fact lemme help you out with a few examples.
The vocabulary used to describe same-sex relations in traditional languages, predating colonialism, is further proof of the existence of such relations in precolonial Africa. To name but a few, the Shangaan of southern Africa referred to same-sex relations as “inkotshane” (male-wife); Basotho women in present-day Lesotho engage in socially sanctioned erotic relationships called “motsoalle” (special friend) and in the Wolof language, spoken in Senegal, homosexual men are known as “gor-digen” (men-women).

But to be sure, the context and experiences of such relationships did not necessarily mirror homosexual relations as understood in the West, nor were they necessarily consistent with what we now describe as a gay or queer identity.

Same-sex relationships in Africa were far more complex than what the champions of the “un-African” myth would have us believe. Apart from erotic same-sex desire, in precolonial Africa, several other activities were involved in same-sex (or what the colonialists branded “unnatural”) sexuality. For example, the Ndebele and Shona in Zimbabwe, the Azande in Sudan and Congo, the Nupe in Nigeria and the Tutsi in Rwanda and Burundi all engaged in same-sex acts for spiritual rearmament — i.e., as a source of fresh power for their territories. It was also used for ritual purposes. Among various communities in South Africa, sex education among adolescent peers allowed them to experiment through acts such as “thigh sex” (“hlobonga” among the Zulu, “ukumetsha” among the Xhosa and “gangisa” among the Shangaan).

3. Im not saying some of the homosexual intimacy wasn't for any other purpose. Of course they were thought to give power. But in the end, its still homo sex, whether for power, initiation or pleasure.
Til now some female cults in nigeria initiate their members with sex orgies. I guess its the White Men that taught them that, right?
4. Mwanga 2 had wives to comply with his father's wishes, but it didn't stop him from engaging in homosexuality. There are African sites(not American or European) that labelled him as such. Its well known.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://theafricanroyalfamilies.com/2022/06/04/kabaka-king-mwanga-ii-of-buganda-gay-bisexual-or-queer/&ved=2ahUKEwip1NyZ2O_9AhUGgv0HHdYcDv8QFnoECGgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0H1QrHzWl8LJnGEjzpJWr1

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/king-mwanga-ii-of-buganda-the-19th-century-ugandan-king-who-was-gay

TenQ:
My God controls you and yet He doesn't exist!?

Is this not a self contradiction?

So you agree Flying Spaghetti Monster controls him like a puppet

FxMasterz:
Those who would be damned would be damned. There's no need to clarify issues to someone who is obstinately clinging to perdition.

Translation
These damned atheists are just too smart for me

AntiChristian:
This is not the questions I asked!
Or does holy spirit guide people to answer questions with another question?

You're wasting your time with OP. That dude is a robot that doesn't think. He can't answer your question, only posts whatever his pastor tells him

Michael548:
Oga you said that they have always existed even before any creation....so in what form did they exist?

Dude I dont know. You can't say time began the moment sundials were made. Or gravity began when gravimeters were made

TenQ:
Don't mind the fuuuls who thinks in their hearts that there is no God.

It is impossible for the CREATOR to be Wrong or be Evil in whatever He chooses to do with His creations.
It's just like if the Engineers who made Sophia the AI Robot decided to decommission and dismantle it; no matter how Sophia feel about it, it doesn't matter. The Engineers can choose to make Sophia's battery run down, or disconnect the battery, or activate a self formatting software in her ROM, or decide to dismantle it piece by piece.

IT DOESN'T MATTER!


A few days ago, the USA wiped off the memory and data of their REAPER drone damaged by the Russian Fighter Plane and allowed it to crash. Have they done EVIL to their Drone?


Indeed only a fuuul say in his heart that there is no God.

Abegi, don't mind them

1. How do you know man
A. was created?
B. was created by your favorite sky daddy?

2. If you insist man was created by your favorite sky daddy, who created him(your sky daddy).
If you insist your sky daddy just popped out of nothing, then why can't man and the world pop out of nothing, just like your sky daddy

Starlight252:
My thoughts.

What we call good or evil is simply an expression of our emotions and existence. To the Source of Creation (in whatever perspective you see it), every notion, idea or thought is a manifestation of that which conceives or embodies it i.e the creation. This manifestation is what we call evil or good due to how it relates to us... This is why we have various religions, cultures, habits, biological traits, ideologies etc that are may be similiar or conflicted depending on the worth we place on them. This "worth" i.e perspectives, is what makes us classify them as "good" or "bad" for us...

Perspective is different from the ultimate reality... If traced down to the bare essentials, nothing is good; nothing is bad. There is only that which is good for us and that which is bad for us -as determined by our perspectives...

This perspectives are manifested in matters regarding the, races, geographical locations, belief systems, biological affairs, relationship, culture etc.


My thoughts.

What is evil?

efelico:
God cannot change. He is the same yesterday, today and forevermore. If the bible was to be written in this present age. I am sure some writer will attribute COVID death to be from God. Attributing evil to God has always being a misconception from man. God is light and in Him there is no darkness.

1. This is what you typed with your own hands
You cannot describe the character of God from the old testament scriptures alone or the life of any prophet.Evil happened but should not be attributed to God.
When the bible says God is light and in him there is no darkness that's tell us He cannot do evil. In the scripture both good and evil where attributed to God but we see that corrected in the life of Christ. Jesus never did evil because it was not the nature of God. Anything Jesus did not do, cannot do the same is applicable to God.
So are you saying if something was corrected, it wasn't changed?
What did u have in O'Level English?

2. Actually, many chrissies like you attributed Covid as a punishment from Yahweh. So take it up with them

herlecks:
Worship, fellowship, friendship, was the original plan. Why did Jesus have to bring eternal life ?

You see why you failed JAMB?
Lemme repeat my question.
What was Yahweh's original plan for man? To have only Adam and Eve, or for them to recreate?

TenQ:
I agree with you.

But, Are you affirming that you are UNDER the control of my God?

Yes. And he's under control of Flying Spaghetti Monster, the god creator

phorget:
Can this OP explain Genesis 6 vs 6 for me please. If God doesn't make mistake then why would he regret creating man?

Or why the Yahweh of Old Testament is more bloodthirsty than the one of New Testament? Did he give his life to Christ?

OLAADEGBU:
“I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.” 1 Timothy 2:8

So are you saying Matthew 6:5 is wrong?

sonmvayina:
There is Good in evil

And there is evil in good..

I don't do kush

FxMasterz:
There's a general opinion that God exists. You're one of the negligible few who have a contrary opinion. The onus lies on you to prove to us that we are wrong.

You have committed at least 4 fallacies with this post. When you said general opinion god exists, what god are you referring to? Remember about 6000 years ago people were worshipping trees, rocks etc as god. Do they qualify too? And yet they can't prove such rocks have powers, just like you can't prove yours.
And again, he who alleges must prove

OgaNightmare:
Brains that have been infested with jargons of Jewish Mystical characters that were borrowed from other cultures

No need engaging such brains

Michael548:
Oga that question is not for me...it is for you.
Even when there was no heaven and earth and stars or even the whole universe, what form was 'time' existing?
You were the one that said time is 'absolute', that it does not need a reference whatsoever.
So Oga explain your English.

That should tell you these concepts like time, gravity existed before we 'discovered' them. Simple. What man did was invent their measuring instruments

marsup:
They can, I have encountered a lot of them, some even call themselves pastors. We just have to pray for God's direction.

Ever heard of cold and hot reading?

TenQ:
No problem!
I'm just concerned that YOU have done so much evil in your life unaware you are being CONTROLLED by remote control (like under intoxication).

Please up doing your evil!

If I'm being controlled, then its yahweh. Remember he created evil, so why is he pissed if I commit it?

advocatejare:
Ok, I like good news, so you can bring it on

Thank you sir

orisa37:
NOT god BUT GOD.
GRAND ORDER DOMINION. GOOGLE FOR IT.

SATAN, OGA DEVIL, IS GOD'S CHIEF ENGINEER IN HEAVEN.

1. @ the bolded, where did you get it? Or is it a product of kush?
2. This is the definition of god
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/god#:~:text=God%20%3A%20the%20supreme%20or%20ultimate,that%20God%20created%20the%20universe%20%E2%80%A6
No mention of any grand order rubbish
3. God, god or goD, there's no difference

herlecks:
God did not create man to die, he would have lived forever if he had taken from the tree of life after his fall, that's the reason why they were driven out of Eden. It says, "in the day ye eat thereof ye shall die." Death was never in God's plan for man.

Are you aware its impossible for any mortal or animal to live forever?
By the way, what was Yahweh's original plan for man? To have only Adam and Eve, or for them to recreate?

Michael548:
You are confusing time in itself with different ways of measuring time. You must know that time in itself is a form of measurement which can be measured in any format and is not limited to clocks and watches. Now how can there be a form of measurement or time without any reference at all? So if time as always existed without any reference, Then in what form did it exist?

Before Galileo 'discovered' gravity, what form was it in?

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the Fool going to Hellfire!

Lawag3