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Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 7:40pm On Mar 12, 2023
Lawag3:
Just read this

THE TESTIMONY OF SECULAR HISTORY

Sacred history in the New Testament documents has shown us ample evidence of the historicity of Christ�s death and resurrection. Not surprisingly, secular history has far less concerning the traveling preacher from an obscure Empire outpost. However, even secular history is not silent concerning Christ.

Flavius Josephus

Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,--a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. he was (the) Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.
The Jewish Talmud
The Talmud is a holy book of tradition and commentary in Jewish eyes. it has been collected in huge volumes, which anyone interested can see. In the copy published in 1943 in Amsterdam, one can read on page 42.
Jesus was crucified one day before the Passover. We warned Him for 40 days that He would be killed because He was a magician and planned to deceive Israel with His delusions. Whoever wished to do so was asked to defend him, and when none did, He was crucified on the eve of the Passover. Does anyone dare to defend Him? Was He not a stirrer up of evil? It is said in the prophets, Deuteronomy chapter 13, verse 8-9, "You shalt not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; but you shall surely kill him. . . ."
Roman and Greek Historians
The death of Christ on the cross in confirmed by early historians, heathen and Jewish.
Tacitus, the historian who was a heathen, wrote in the year A.D. 55, detailing passages about the crucifixion of Christ and his sufferings. Furthermore, the Roman historians Pliny the Younger and Seutonius, along with non-Roman historians Thallus, Phlegon, and the satirist Lucian of Samsota, refer to the crucifixion of Jesus in their writings. (Martin Hengel�s book, Crucifixion in the Ancient World, gives more details.)
The Greek historian, Lucien, who lived around A.D. 100, was an outstanding writer. he told of the death of Christ and the growing group of Christians. He was an Epicurean who could not understand the faith of Christians and their readiness to die for Christ. In his writings he ridiculed the Christians� belief in the immortality of the soul and their longing for heaven. He looked on them as a deceived people clinging to uncertainties after death rather than living for the present. One of the most significant allusions to the subject of Christ in his writings is this: "The Christians continue to worship that great man who was crucified in Palestine because he brought a new religion to the world."

So Jesus was a real person he wasn't fiction.
Did you read my rebuttals on these scholars earlier? Many of them were found to fakes, some copied from others.
The catch in their testimony is this. They said there was a 3 hour worldwide eclipse(which was recorded in the bible. Now how come such an eclipse wasnt captured elsewhere in contemporary history?
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 7:05pm On Mar 12, 2023
Lawag3:
Their fates specifically tells them to go out to people like you if you love you and doing it is not wrong is it?
Just like some muslims say their qoran specifically tells them to kill infidels like christians. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 7:04pm On Mar 12, 2023
Lawag3:
Like I do? How do you know I force people to accept Christ? Seems like you had an over religious parents being over religious without Christ is dangerous and most over religious parents end up chasing their children from God.

Christ told us to hate sin and love people this includes sinners so any Christian that hates and seeks to kill homosexuals are doing their own work not God's work

Having different sexuality is Not wrong according to many human laws but to God it's an abomination
Just like Muslims say their extremists aren't real muslims.
Your views are minority. An average Nigerian christian would gladly murder a homo, if allowed
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 7:01pm On Mar 12, 2023
Lawag3:
I never said God needs the baby in a better place you love misinterpreting what I say. Death is part of human life unfortunately babies die too when they die, they are not old enough to face judgement, they are still too young to know good and evil so they can't go to hell. I already told you that I would love to go to that place I have been preparing myself trying to live a holy life by Gods grace I will get there.
So, yahweh did good by slaughtering those babies?
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 6:59pm On Mar 12, 2023
Lawag3:
There are places to seek redress for their grievances not the streets.
So you now decide where people show their grievances? They have to seek validation from you?
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 6:58pm On Mar 12, 2023
Lawag3:
Yes they did and I can show you if you are interested? grin
Please show us legit shit, not that rubbish you dropped earlier. I don't have time to waste on these your 'evidences'
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 6:57pm On Mar 12, 2023
elated177:
Jae, your psychotic mind has made it impossible for you to be coherent. Is it not part of why you still keep mentioning my moniker all over the place?

When I asked for your identity so that I could ascertain your mental state before striking you down with some dose of thunder and lightning, what was your response? Did you not disappoint? Yet you are still maligning the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God and the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. Don't you have shame? Well, of course, a psychotic mind does not recognize shame.

To be high on air is part of being elated. It has no adverse effects. No disadvantages. Nothing trumps it. Nothing can measure up to it. You should try it. But, then, you are incapable of such. Your demon infested soul makes you incapable of such. Low-vibration soullish being like you.




Again, jae:

Who are you calling a nutcase. Jae, barring the fact that you may be even remotely related to me, I can assure you, jae, that someone as supernaturally blessed and gifted like elated177 has never existed in your lineage, not even in the past 1000 years, and will never exist in your lineage in the next 1000 years, unless, of course, we are or become related in the future, no matter how little.

If you doubt me, present the best and most supernaturally gifted, blessed or talented living person in your lineage. If the person turns out to be better than me, you have earned the right to insult me any how you like. You can also come forward if you believe you are worthy.

I, elated177, am the human masterpiece of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, the one and only true God. I say it unapologetically. I say it with all confidence and boldness. If you are in doubt, come forward and contradict me if you can. If you believe you are better than me or more gifted than me, come and prove it and gain my respect and, probably, the right to insult me for as much and for as long as you like. Finito.

So, are you willing to take up the challenge. Do you think I came here, a faceless forum, to play kpankpangolo? My confidence comes from experiential knowledge, jae. I no dey make mouth.

Jae, you or your chosen person shouldn't forget to introduce yourself when you come.

You haven't earned the right to insult me.
Again, I cant remember Yahweh reaching for the passports of his victims before murdering them. So why are you doing it. Simply press strike button. Even jazz men dey jazz people without even knowing their names. Just shout incantations over their monikers
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 6:53pm On Mar 12, 2023
Image123:
You don't have to be thick, given the number of hours you have been forced to study. Homosexuality can refer to the concept or agenda or activities. Using LGBT, LGBTQ, gay etc. is synonymous to buttress your discussion and definition. The topic/thread is about how homosexuality hurts. Your accomplice Reed was defending the lie that there's no hurt or threat, that's why i showed the clear threat. It's a threat from homosexuality not necessarily by homos. i see your brain is thick and don't expect you to understand. The reply is for readers, not you.
Mr. Thin Brain, you specifically said LGBTQ was threatening governments, and you cannot provide evidence to back up your idiotic and ignorant post. Go suck a dicck
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholic Church Is Evil! Majority Of Atheists Are Former Catholics. by jaephoenix(m): 12:58am On Mar 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Come to think if you look around and remember your experience,you would see that the one or 2 very wicked men and women you know are Catholics and ibo or ibo and Catholic.

Check it out, wicked Ibo tenants, who refuse to pay rent or bills, Catholic.

Wife beater, Ibo and Catholic.

Those who steal brother's property and throw out wife and property, Ibo, Catholic

Wicked lecturer, Catholic
I thought your bigotry ended with gays, catholics and atheists. Didn't know you updated your hate to include Igbos too. Nice to know grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholic Church Is Evil! Majority Of Atheists Are Former Catholics. by jaephoenix(m): 12:54am On Mar 12, 2023
tctrills:
Lol I see you are on fire. Accusing everyone today. At least don't be a false witness.
That's the least of his problems. He has his own version of the bible that supports him
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholic Church Is Evil! Majority Of Atheists Are Former Catholics. by jaephoenix(m): 12:52am On Mar 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Says the fool who lost more than 31 times whenever he tried arguing against me.

So here you are lying.


Meaning, your parents and grandparents were Catholics and we know ibo people and their children are dominantly Catholics and you went to Catholic school and you know a lot about Catholic church



Oya deny it na! Fool.
Where did you get this info? Wait. I know. From your ass.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholic Church Is Evil! Majority Of Atheists Are Former Catholics. by jaephoenix(m): 12:50am On Mar 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
You are the disgraced one who everyone knows loves lies again disgracing himself today, because nothing I said here is a lie and every reasonable person can see that I only presented an observation as proved by the devils who provoked this observation.

Hmm! Obviously you yourself are Catholic and are just trying to defend yourselves since you realeyes that I am exposing you devils. Thus confirming that you never really had anything to say but to come here and rant like the devil you are.
Lawag3
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholic Church Is Evil! Majority Of Atheists Are Former Catholics. by jaephoenix(m): 12:49am On Mar 12, 2023
Workch:
he mentioned me, I have never been a catholic in my life. I intentionally ignored his mention because he's a fool who's not worth my time.
Beware, he'll attack you and call you a liar. Just like he did to LordReed
Christianity EtcRe: If Jesus Christ Was God, Why Did He Find Fault With Some Old Testament Laws? by jaephoenix(m): 12:42am On Mar 12, 2023
MightySparrow:
That is what I understand by atheist. Is it another word for Muslim?
I realize chrissies like burying their heads in the sand, with their asses sticking. They are not interested in knowledge, only what their bible tells them about the world. If you don't know the definition of atheist, how the fvck are you gonna understand my point. This is what a few seconds of google can solve, but no, he'd rather believe the bullshit he's been taught
Christianity EtcRe: ************************** by jaephoenix(m): 12:19am On Mar 12, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Has anyone seen this juju mirror before:
Nollywood movies do have juju mirrors in them. But some time back a lady told me she started a charity and it led her to visit a place in the south and she saw this juju mirror and someone in Europe was called and the person appeared in the mirror and that this led her to quickly stop the charity work. Has anyone here seen this juju mirror live before?
Its a load of bullshit, just like peeps spewing cash, dudes losing their dicks after a touch (though this can be a psychiatric condition) etc
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 11:57pm On Mar 11, 2023
Lawag3:
I didn't doge anything I wanted to quote from secular historians anyway did you know that ancient Roman historians wrote about Jesus.
Who?
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 11:57pm On Mar 11, 2023
Lawag3:
We can't. we love you all that's why we are on the street many Christian you see on the street preaching have something else they can do but they leave their businesses and jobs just to make sure you are saved that you escaped hell they don't want you to suffer eternal pain . In the bible Jesus tells believers if you love your neighbor you'll tell them about me . Christian are on the streets for a good reason, they want your salvation. Its like a neighbor warning the other of a coming danger . Is that wrong.

What are the homosexuals on the street for? I think they are seeking validation for their relationships.

I don't think I will be happy in heaven knowing I could have saved my friend from hell.
They are on the streets the same way any professional body or individuals, takes to the streets: Rights to peaceful protests. Remember they have been facing many form of assaults from you chrissies.
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 10:58pm On Mar 11, 2023
Lawag3:
Death isn't the better place . I would want to go to that better place I have been preparing for it. many Christian do all it takes to go there we leave our former life of sin, comfort and we kill lust we try to live a life of holiness all in preparation for a spot in that place . True we all want our babies in our arms like who wouldn't, but if the baby dies we console ourselves knowing that the baby is in a better place. Know this there is life after death.
I dont like drivel.
I asked you why your yahweh is busy killing innocent babies. You told me he wants them in a better place. I asked if you want your kids or yourself in this better place. And you started telling me about this.
Do you think those babies yahweh murdered went to this better place? Going by your notion that we are born sinful, dont you think those babies are headed for hell?
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 10:52pm On Mar 11, 2023
Lawag3:
She's in a place where she can't be silenced. This is where people who advocate for the gay rights should be. They should leave the streets.
I don't understand. Where should gay rights activists be?
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 9:09pm On Mar 11, 2023
elated177:
You acted like you didn't see what I said earlier, only for you to ask me to strike you with lightning.

Look at what I said:









Are you also going to disappoint like you did in the past?
Lol. Disappoint you when? Are you high on air?
You said you are supernaturally powerful, and I simply ask, no, beg you to strike me dead, and end all these back and forth, but you're here running your psychotic mouth since yesterday. Im patiently waiting for my lightning, bro grin
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 9:07pm On Mar 11, 2023
Image123:
That's why i said you are more ignorant than i imagined. i was referring to the LGBTQ agenda all the time, not to your specific irrelevant gay friends.
Lol.
You said LGBTQ threatened governments. I asked you to show me where. You pulled up a post where the US was threatening Uganda. I asked you how LGBTQ became a whole US Government, you now came back that you were referring to the LGBTQ agenda.
I believe you are literate(though these days I doubt you are). Again I ask, is the LGBTQ the same as US Government?
Christianity EtcRe: If Jesus Christ Was God, Why Did He Find Fault With Some Old Testament Laws? by jaephoenix(m): 9:00pm On Mar 11, 2023
MightySparrow:
You claimed to be an atheist. That is your identity to me.

What you call yourself is what you are to me.

An Atheist. A person who does not have regard for God

We don't have any commonplace to argue anything.
Is that the definition of an atheist? Are you sure? I’m sure you are connected to the internet. Why not check it out? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: If Jesus Christ Was God, Why Did He Find Fault With Some Old Testament Laws? by jaephoenix(m): 8:58pm On Mar 11, 2023
Lawag3:
I don't know all I know physical bodies can't survive on a spiritual world. Because physical bodies put a limit on the amazing abilities of a spiritual bodies
Are you saying there are spiritually bodies inside physical bodies? lipsrsealed
Christianity EtcRe: If Jesus Christ Was God, Why Did He Find Fault With Some Old Testament Laws? by jaephoenix(m): 8:53pm On Mar 11, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
As usual you do not have any counter.
You have your own version of reality. So what do you want me to discuss with you?
Christianity EtcRe: If Jesus Christ Was God, Why Did He Find Fault With Some Old Testament Laws? by jaephoenix(m): 8:51pm On Mar 11, 2023
MightySparrow:
Sorry I don't discuss with atheists. I only discuss with people who believe in God.
Yet youre discussing with a Muslim(who doesn't believe in yahweh) , and feeling good. Are you afraid of getting thrashed? Dont worry. I'll be gentle on you grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:48pm On Mar 11, 2023
FRANCISTOWN:
Since the beginning of this thread, I've noticed a pattern in the way you respond to posts. You do not even bother to understand the post, you just go ahead to reply. I'm sorry I once thought you didn't understand simple english sentences, now I know better. There is something called "Aphasia" , I guess it will be good for you to find a treatment to that. Till then, I won't banter words with you any further
Are you just interfacing DTruthSpeaker? Why do you think we don't discourse with him? grin
Dude is a cruise. I don't engage him logically. He'll be dodging and trying to dumb down the discourse, with illogical posts and a healthy dose of insults, til youre frustrated. And of course, he'll declare himself winner of the debate.
Its a psychological weapon. He knows he's not capable of arguing cerebrally, thus muddies the waters
Ignore him, or when you feel like, argue with him illogically and gaslight him grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:42pm On Mar 11, 2023
Aemmyjah:
So, if you see a house that is damaged, the architect is to blame Right?
Depends. If the architect did a poor job, lets say, poorly designed floors, foundations etc, and the house is damaged. Then yes, he has a blame
Christianity EtcRe: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 7:40pm On Mar 11, 2023
FRANCISTOWN:
Look at a blind man or a crippled, you want to tell us that's the work of an omnipotent, Omnibenevolent, omniscienct and intelligent design? A software engineer checks the entire source code of a software to ensure there is no defect, if after production a malware is detected. They take the software down and improve on it or release an upgrade(This is how an intelligent design works)
He doesn't know that the human undergo a lot of genetic/chromosomal changes in utero til s/he is born. Some of these changes are can result on fatal errors(like a badly formed heart) and the baby dies. In the early pregnancy, this dead fetus is known as a miscarriage and the woman bleeds with passage of clots(pieces of the fetus). Sometimes these errors are non-fatal like a non-fatal error in a software, and the fetus continues growing but sometimes they die at birth or when born, they errors are now evidenced, like Patent Ductus Arteriosus(commonly called hole-in-the-heart babies), deficiency in the brain whereby the ventricles are enlarged(hydrocephalus). Some are even born with cancers called teratomas.
And these babies manage to live with the aid of medical science. Same medical science maligned by religionists for not believing in a creator. So if they believe man was created, then science is trying to correct the errors of the dumb ass creator

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