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Lawag3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-VSGG_9sws

There are more but just start with this one

Right. Sorry for the late response. I'm quite busy
1. The first 'evidence' talked about James(Jacob) brother of Jesus.
Well, it has been found to be a fake(like many evidences of your Jesus). Read these excerpts from different sources. You can do your own independent researches

a.
The inscription, reading “James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus” has been authenticated by two eminent paleographers (specialists in dating, interpreting and authenticating inscriptions): André Lemaire of the Sorbonne and Ada Yardeni of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. In 2003, however, the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) appointed a committee of scholars to study the “brother of Jesus” inscription and report its findings. The committee concluded that the inscription was a forgery.

b.
In 2003, The Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) argued that the inscriptions were forged at a much later date.[5] In December 2004, Oded Golan was charged with 44 counts of forgery, fraud, and deception, including forgery of the Ossuary inscription

2. Piece of heel bone of a ?20 year old man found with nails stuck there.

a.
Now isn't it odd that all we can find of this particular skeleton is just his heel bone. The rest of his bones were hacked off. People don't just decompose and leave only their heel bones. In this case, just the heel was seen, the rest of the feet which includes the toes, phalanges were gone, leaving part of the calcaneum(heel bone). That screams fake.

b. This is an excerpt from an archaeological article
… It is therefore an odd fact that archaeological evidence of this punishment — crosses, for example, or perforated skeletons — has never been found anywhere in the world, with one exception: this one

c. The inscription said Yehohanan, son of Hagakol. Doesn't exactly sound like Jesus, does it?

d. Another excerpt proving that even if it was real, it wasnt Jesus …
The position of the stake was evidence of a crucifixion technique that had not previously been known, according to museum curator David Mevorah. In the image of crucifixion made famous by Christian iconography, Jesus is pictured with both feet nailed to the front of the vertical beam of the cross. But this man’s feet had been affixed to the sides of the beam with nails hammered separately through each heel.



e.
That bone was from a 20 year old man. According to your Bible, Jesus died around 33 years, a good 13 years late

f. Now the clincher, if the bones of Jesus was found, that means he died, like every other mortal, and his body decomposes. So how is he a god? And didn't yall tell us in the Bible he ascended?
Remember you just told me some posts ago that Jesus was the only god whose tomb was not found
So whose bones was in that ossuary youre proudly displaying as evidence of Jesus existence?

3. A stone bearing Pontius Pilate found somewhere. Lol.
This is like saying that since New York exists then Spiderman really does exist. Nuff said
No need to expantiate on this

4. The earthquake around the time Jesus died.

This is what I got…

In terms of the earthquake data alone, Williams and his team acknowledge that the seismic activity associated with the crucifixion could refer to “an earthquake that occurred sometime before or after the crucifixion and was in effect ‘borrowed’ by the author of the Gospel of Matthew, and a local earthquake between 26 and 36 A.D. that was sufficiently energetic to deform the sediments of Ein Gedi but not energetic enough to produce a still extant and extra-biblical historical record.” “If the last possibility is true, this would mean that the report of an earthquake in the Gospel of Matthew is a type of allegory,” they write
Meaning its conjectural, and not a proven evidence.

5. An edict prohibiting tomb robberies. This is like number 3 above. The edict could have been for robbery of some tombs, and not necessarily Jesus's

6. Graffito depicting a man Alexamenos worshipping his god, an ass-headed man.
Again, I got this…

No clear consensus has been reached on when the image was made. Dates ranging from the late 1st to the late 3rd century have been suggested, with the beginning of the 3rd century thought to be the most likely.
It may be related to Jesus, or not!

7. This talked about historians talking about jesus.
One was Josephus. Now this is a known fake, which I talked about.
A new article just beats this dead horse deader still. Hat tip to Vridar and Peter Kirby. Honestly. The evidence that the Testimonium Flavianum (or TF) is entirely a late Christian forgery is now as overwhelming as such evidence could ever get.
Read more of it here.
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/7437

Next up is Pliny the Younger, and this is about his letters…
Neither Pliny nor Trajan mentions the crime that Christians were supposed to have committed, except for being a Christian; and other historical sources do not provide a simple answer to what that crime could be, but most likely due to the stubborn refusal of Christians to worship Roman gods; making them appear as objecting to Roman rule.

As you can see, he talked about Christians, and not Jesus. Its just like somebody telling you Islam is real or Mohammed is a prophet because Muslims were jailed.
Does it make sense?

Next up was Origen, a Christian theologer. What the Bleep do you expect a Christian theologer to say about Jesus?
To say he didn't exist?


See, I didn’t become an atheist by chance. I really did go through all the evidences pro and con about religion(and christianity specifically) and they were all anecdotal.

So bring on the next evidences you have, but please read through them. You just wasted my time
Thank you

elated177:
You are wasting your time. I will continue to propagate the truth of YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. Homosexuality is an abomination. I will never stop preaching against it.

I never told you to stop preaching against it. If you like open a church, mount speakers and be hating on homosexuality. Your headache, your business.
What we are saying is treat them as you would treat a regular person (which was what directed in your holy book, in the first place). Don't assault or kill them. Simple
You have comprehension skills. Where am I promoting homosexuality?
By the way, you and your yahweh are as useful as p in psychology.
Tell him to send lightning after me, fagggot

elated177:
You must think your condescending attitude gives you some kind of edge over others. It only shows how empty you truly are, jae.



Who are you calling a nutcase. Jae, barring the fact that you may be even remotely related to me, I can assure you, jae, that someone as supernaturally blessed and gifted like elated177 has never existed in your lineage, not even in the past 1000 years, and will never exist in your lineage in the next 1000 years, unless, of course, we are or become related in the future, no matter how little.

If you doubt me, present the best and most supernaturally gifted, blessed or talented living person in your lineage. If the person turns out to be better than me, you have earned the right to insult me any how you like. You can also come forward if you believe you are worthy.


Finally, if you think I am a homosexual because I am vehemently opposing it, all you need to do is catch me doing it. Yes, all you need to do is catch me sticking my penis into another man's smelling butthole, jae. Nkita rachaa gi anya there.

Jae, abstain from faggotry. It is an abominable filth.

Lol.
Such an intelligent dude yet he doesn't understand basic science
You were angry cos I called you gay without seeing you practicing it, yet you call me gay in your next breath(without even knowing who I am or if I'm gay)
Ara ka nma na okorobia

Lawag3:
Unfortunately that's how sin works it brings God's anger on everyone.

1. So killing innocent babies is ok, if their parents are sinful?
2. Being an all merciful god why didn't he deal with the Pharaoh without involving the innocent babies?
Think carefully

Lawag3:
Nope he didn't he only did It after pharoah proved to be very stubborn.

In the bolded it says pharaoh's heart is unyielding he refused to let them go anytime God hardened pharaoh's heart the bible says it but as you can see his heart was already unyielding.

I believe you can read and write. Yahweh clearly stated told Moses he'll harden the pharaoh's heart before moses stepped out to confront the pharaoh to let them leave

Lawag3:
I never said homosexuals were to be shot

What were you suggesting?

Image123:
You are more ignorant than i expected.

Good. Show me the clip where LGBTQ is threatening governments

MightySparrow:
How?

Dó you mean the correction contains more errors that the original question?

The stories in the bible are lies and contradictions to each other

MightySparrow:
Tell me more joor

The bible has been found to be full of lies

TenQ:
Really!?

Even though, both Muslims and Christians believe in MIRACLES

Do you in your life think that the Creator will say that men's reproductive fluids come from their backbone while the females reproductive fluids come from their rib cage?

Do you think that it is remotely possible that the Creator of everything will think that the Sun sets in a pool of murky waters?

Please, respond to these

Dude, I'm not a theist.
Christianity has its own daft points. Islam aint the only dafties atound. Remember the bible said sun stood still for days, man was made from mud/sand, donkeys and snakes talk, folks hang out inside fishes, bushes burn without actually burning etc. All the regular stuff I find in Snow White and the Seven Dwarves

budaatum:
Pity you spoil an informative thread with your own opinion.

I personally can't wait till they find a vaccine for stupidity and ignorance (though they actually have already, just that many refuse to take it).

Bro, the stupidity is so awesome

MrPresident1:
https://news.mit.edu/2020/rna-vaccines-explained-covid-19-1211
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/how-mrna-technology-could-change-world/618431/

If MRNA vaccines are safe, why where they never used to develop cures for HIV, CANCER and DIABETES all this while?

Why did big Pharma, an arm of the Babylonian system, have to wait till Covid 19 broke out, when they knew that MRNA vaccines were safe all along, since the 1970s?

Over 30million human beings have died from HIV/AIDS, Malaria is the leading killer in Africa, Cancer is like a certain death sentence, Diabetes is a waster, and MRNA vaccines were safe all along, yet they were never developed to cure these diseases?

And MRNA is so easy to edit to tailor to cure any illness or disease, very very easy and quick to edit, dead easy!

Yet until Covid broke out, they never used this safe method to help, heal, cure, or save people.

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Why are theists so dense in science?
Is it that this dude hasn't heard of mRNA vaxxes? These were around years before Covid
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/21898-mrna-vaccines

MrPresident1:
Covid 19 is the sign of the son of man in heaven Matthew 24:30, heaven is the leading ruling nations of the earth, and the heaven of this present world is the confederacy of Edom; including Israelis, America, British, France, Italiano, NATO etc.,

The most concerning covid variants are coming from the ‘east’ e.g. China virus from China, Delta variant from India etc., we will soon have the Iran variant, Laos variant, Vietnamese variant etc. Revelation 16:12; the Euphrates has been dried up to allow the ‘easterners to penetrate Babylon.

Its really difficult to argue science with theists. Which one is India and China variants?

MrPresident1:
Both stem cell technology and MRNA technology have been around since the 1970s, yet they were never used to create cures for diseases and wasting conditions.

Then in 2019/2020, a ‘novel’ (misnomer, nothing new under the sun) corona virus disease breaks out in the world. Corona viruses are responsible for mild common cold are some of the weakest viruses ever known https://coronavirusexplained.ukri.org/en/article/cad0003/ Coronaviruses (CoVs) are a family of viruses that cause respiratory and intestinal illnesses in humans and animals. They usually cause mild colds in people…

This ‘novel’ corona virus with its novel disease, or covid-19, with 99% curability is the reason many of us now know about MRNA vaccines and stem cell research. They never used this knowledge/technology to get rid of HIV or cancer or diabetes, but suddenly it is the magic bullet cure for a disease that has 99% curability. Why has Big Pharma, an arm of the Babylonian system, never used MRNA and Stem cells to cure disease, prior to Covid 19?

A diagnosis of cancer means almost certain death, but human lives has a measure in Esau/Babylonian currency. Profiting from human misery; Human lives for sale; trading in the souls of men. All for profit!

Sheer wickedness. Sheer evil.

Your time is up!

If you don't know something, kindly ask questions
1. Good percentage of covid patients are young and the coronavirus can run its course without problems. The reason world is concerned about Covid is the effect on the elderly who have diseases like chronic kidney diseases, diabetes. These reduce the immune system and make the senior citizen susceptible, and can die from Covid
2. HIV has proven difficult to cure because the viruses go to what we call 'sanctuary sites' like lymphatic nodes and thus many drugs can't access it there.
3. There are many types of cancer, so getting a particular cure for all is a pipe dream. We can reduce the incidence
4. Diabetes is a multisystemic disease and stem cell is gradually trying to help but religious fruitcakes like you are crying out against stem cell technology

MightySparrow:
Who instituted the Quran?

Who instituted mutt'ah? Why is it that some Muslims claim that only shia practice it.


Who abrogated it.
Islam is a joke my friend

Same as christianity

SIRTee15:
Those kids were young men according to Jewish scriptures. They were not some pre teens without knowledge of what they were doing.

All Onan had to do if he wasn't interested in rasing kids they weren't his own was to say NO. He didn't, he wanted the pleasure but not the responsibility. That's was a wicked thing.
No one will kill him if he refused. Judah noticed the trend and refused to pass the lady on to his 3rd child as per tradition- nothing happened to him.
Judah could have man up and perform the deed himself but stylishly sent her away- God didn't kill him.

The verse is all about taking responsibility that comes with pleasure, God hates it the opposite- a warning to men who denies responsibility for pregnancy they create and force the woman to have an abortion.

Are you aware Yahweh hardened someone's heart so he can kill the man's children and punish him?

TenQ:
Thank God for an Arab like Christian Prince, so many mistranslations of the Qur'an have been exposed. Muslims by nature are too sentimental about the RELIGION that the TRUTH is thrown OVERBOARD.

Without LIES, Islam as a Religion CRUMBLES. The Decking of lies is in multiple stairs of skyscraper!

There's more deceit in the bible

MightySparrow:
Do mind the ignoramus, he wants to claim he knows the Bible more than Christians. I watch his mentors, Zakir Naik and Shabby Ally dishing out nonsense to continue in Islamic deception.


His 72 houris are waiting for him by the river of rum in Al - Jaanah.

Unfortunately your Bible isnt much better

Lawag3:
Do spirit have chromosomes. Chromosomes are characteristics of physical bodies not spiritual bodies.

What do spiritual bodies have

Dtruthspeaker:
You are lying yansh man yansh licker! you have not yet passed 30. And I already can see it that for a long time your days are full of sorrows and frustrations and failures as I have cursed you the last time which is why you have finally gone mad and even though your words are correctly placed, they are exactly words a mad person who went to school would say. You are now mad because you have been turned to a frustrated fool! Nothing you do would work, and so shall it be until you die a very slow painful death.

Lawag3

Dtruthspeaker:
Ibo fool, I see say you dey d down, come make I set your existence.

You no go get pikin at all. The pikin dem talk say be your own go be your Papa own! And d bastard go dey vex you as tay you go kill am. Den you don turn vagabond be dat.

Lawag3

Dtruthspeaker:
Mad ibo man, you never reach 30 o but e no go better for you. By 32, you go down finish patapata.

Even if you do yahoo yahoo, e no go work. Police go arrest you and you go still come out worse than dustbin rat for Sahara desert.

Lawag3

Livingfaithhh:
Sin is sin even if the whole world supports the sin. God's Standard doesn't change. Masturbation is a sin.

Is masturbation by married couple sin?

guysbewise:
UK National Health Services urges men to masturbate after study says it can help ward off cancer. This is the national Health service of the country that brought the Bible to Nigeria. Christianity has messed up the minds of some people. If a man does not have a girlf friend or a wife then the only way for a normal man is to masturbate.
Source: https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/health/nhs-urges-men-to-masturbate-after-study-says-it-can-help-ward-off-cancer-845949

Judaism is not against sex but Christianity hates sex. Jesus said if any man [married or unmarried] looks at a woman [this can be a man's wife] lustfully that man has committed adultery but Judaism the foundation of Christianity is not against sex.
The New Testament is a creation of the Roman empire that's why it does not follow the standards of God in Judaism and following New Testament without knowledge of Judaism will just mess up a person's mind.

Having sex regularly can reduce incidence of prostate cancer

Banilla:
Masturbation also causes kidney failure.

… and cancer too

Lawag3:
Read that part of the bible again he only hardened his heart after Pharaoh refuse to let them go after the first three plagues.

After the last plague and his son died he got scared and let them go but he regretted it and still went after the Israelites which lead to his death.

Two reasons God hardened pharaoh's heart was
1 he was proving to be strong headed

2 The Israelites needed signs that God really sent Moses so he showed them those signs using pharoah.

No bro. He hardened his heart ab initio before the plagues, using that as an opportunity to murder all the babies. You need to read your bible properly
Oh, what a merciful and benevolent god

7 Then the Lord said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. 2 You are to say everything I command you, and your brother Aaron is to tell Pharaoh to let the Israelites go out of his country. 3 But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in Egypt, 4 he will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will bring out my divisions, my people the Israelites. 5 And the Egyptians will know that I am the Lord when I stretch out my hand against Egypt and bring the Israelites out of it.”

6 Moses and Aaron did just as the Lord commanded them. 7 Moses was eighty years old and Aaron eighty-three when they spoke to Pharaoh.

Aaron’s Staff Becomes a Snake
8 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, 9 “When Pharaoh says to you, ‘Perform a miracle,’ then say to Aaron, ‘Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh,’ and it will become a snake.”

10 So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and did just as the Lord commanded. Aaron threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a snake. 11 Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts: 12 Each one threw down his staff and it became a snake. But Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs. 13 Yet Pharaoh’s heart became hard and he would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.

The Plague of Blood
14 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Pharaoh’s heart is unyielding; he refuses to let the people go. 15 Go to Pharaoh in the morning as he goes out to the river. Confront him on the bank of the Nile, and take in your hand the staff that was changed into a snake. 16 Then say to him, ‘The Lord, the God of the Hebrews, has sent me to say to you: Let my people go, so that they may worship me in the wilderness. But until now you have not listened. 17 This is what the Lord says: By this you will know that I am the Lord: With the staff that is in my hand I will strike the water of the Nile, and it will be changed into blood. 18 The fish in the Nile will die, and the river will stink; the Egyptians will not be able to drink its water.’”

19 The Lord said to Moses, “Tell Aaron, ‘Take your staff and stretch out your hand over the waters of Egypt—over the streams and canals, over the ponds and all the reservoirs—and they will turn to blood.’ Blood will be everywhere in Egypt, even in vessels[a] of wood and stone.”

20 Moses and Aaron did just as the Lord had commanded. He raised his staff in the presence of Pharaoh and his officials and struck the water of the Nile, and all the water was changed into blood. 21 The fish in the Nile died, and the river smelled so bad that the Egyptians could not drink its water. Blood was everywhere in Egypt.

Lawag3:
Mohammed never said he is the way, he even said I don't know the way, that he doesn't even know where is going to. Ask the Muslims

I read a saying from Buddha, he said all this practice I bring to you doesn't assure you of salvation.

Jesus's grave is the only grave of a major religious leader that is empty.

Whoa. I never knew you believe the qoran. So I guess you also believe that Jesus was just a prophet and Mohammed was higher than him

Dtruthspeaker:
And I just showed you have no thing.

Ok

Dtruthspeaker:
Your insanity is returning. Since when did preparation to Curse if an event occurs become a curse itself?

Lawag3

Lawag3:
Before he drowned the world and destroy cities he gives them time to repent. sin has repercussions that could be avoided only when you repent. Noah repeatedly warned the people of the destruction that was to come they ignore him. God promise to spare Sodom and Gomorrah is he found Five righteous men the only one he found was Lot.

Take Nineveh for example God wanted to destroy them for their sins but the whole city repented,God forgave them Jonah became angry because he was hoping for God to destroy them.

What about the babies and children

Dtruthspeaker:
Here is your last support and defence for the murderers known as Isis,



Love also said Judge righteously and slay not the innocent. Exodus 23/7/ Leviticus 19:15

Isis disobeyed both, therefore, they did not follow the Bible and therefore they are devils worthy to be stoned to death

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Lawag3

Dtruthspeaker:
And does it affect me?

It is you cursed evil generation who are suffering all these plagues that is why all the foolish amongst you have turned to atheism and instead of your lives to get better it is even getting worse. And then you all wail, hollering like chickens in the poultry.

And the 2 of you are ex Catholics yet you both can not marry. You are too evil for each other to be joined,. and it is good that you are not joined else one or both of you would die like this people and even over a rubbish issue

https://www.nairaland.com/7603038/man-strangles-pregnant-wife-death#121592211

That is why you men don't want to marry because you know your wives will stab you for your shit or you are going to kill her for hers, but it is most likely her who is going to kill you first.

Lawag3