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acewines:
Ok

But as big as that place is plus the empty lands at the back, I think they should expand or employ more

What if it's something serious, anyways I think the op needs to find an alternative to the medication

You can write your governor at Alausa, or better still mobilize and march there en masse to plead with him to expand the hopsital. They wont listen to us.
About the OP's case, he should get another brand of dexamethasone like Dectancyl or Dexonal. Those are foreign(I think European) brands. Dexamethasone is safe.Full stop

acewines:
This is not about overcrowding or something

Had an accident and I was bleeding from my right ear, I went to GH gbagada and I given a card with 2months appointment date, as it wasn't that serious like b4 I waited for the time to come, I went back there and I was given another 1month and I asked,she said the ENT isn't available for now, 1 month came, she gave the 3rd date,tho 2weeks. I left the 2 weeks came I went to the place I was asked to stay, some minutes later she came in and said they have reached the number of people (18) that the specialist could see for the day out of annoyance,I told her how I've been posted severally, she gave a nonchalant comment, I threw the card over the canter to where she sat and stormed out, I left the hospital,5mins later my phone rang and I answered, only for the person to tell me to come back that she has written my name there.. I didn't answer her but to apologize for my actions earlier and I haven't gone to any hospital to check on my ear.. still hearing a little bit of noise inside it

When I'm chanced will visit the military hospital for yaba

Its the same thing we're saying, overcrowding. If the capacities were enlarged and more doctors employed,do you think there would be crowds and postponements(like you had)? In advanced countries, you'll easily see doctors, but you pay through your nose.
I think why they called you back was that the ENT specialist heard about your postponements and decided to take your case out of pity. These specialists usually do rounds after the clinic, so they have to leave that clinic early

DearGorgeous:
Bros, I am happy I didn't take that antibiotic, abeg. And I'm grateful for the Pharmacist that advised me.

Whatever rocks your boat.
The antibiotic wasn't dangerous, you are too gullible

LagBlogger:
It is not funny because some doctors are incompetent and yes pharmacists know drugs better than doctors.

All drugs have side effects but their side effects varies. Some are mild while others are strong.

Avoid drugs with strong side effects because the doctor will not be able to save you nor will he accept blame when the worst happens.

Don't give people medical advise you are not qualified to give because it is life we are talking about here not merely an ailment.

The same way we have incompetent docs is the same way we have incompetent pharmacies. Like in this OP's case, the pharmacist is incompetent because s/he said dexamethasone is banned when it was actually the brand Xasten that was banned/substandard.
YES we know the side effects of drugs before prescriptions and we anticipate them,in fact,we use the side effect as therapeutic use. If I have a hypertensive with poor sleep, that has catarrh, I would prefer chlorpheniramine to loratidine as an anticatarrh because of it is has a more sedative effect

Ken4Christ:
You are of your father, the devil who is the father of lies. But he is a defeated foe. And you will join him in the Lake of fire unless you repent.

Lol. The usual garbage I get from christians when they are stumped or run out of ideas.
Have a nice day, bro

mignone:
Same way they discouraged us from using chloroquine for malaria, instead they introduced a athemeter nonsense so people will have to keep coming back to buy meds.

Another ignorant Nigerian gladly displaying ignorance.
Chloroquine was discouraged because y'all Nigerians abused the hell out of it, causing the malaria to be resistant to it. It became almost useless. Now even the artemether lumefantrine combination is not effective because you guys have still abused the hell out of it.
Patients just meet me 'Doctor i want to treat malaria, I have treated it for 2 years' or they say 'Doctor, mosquitoes bit me yesterday, I want to treat malaria'.Even after advising them not to take antimalarials, they still ignore me and take it. Same issue we see for antibiotics.
Are you now blaming WHO for your stupidity?

DearGorgeous:
Op listen to the Pharmacist. I've had similar personal experience in the past. The doctor recommended a drug for me to buy at the hospital's pharmacy (a Federal Government Hospital for that matter).

May God bless that pharmacist. She advised me not to buy the recommended drug. I asked why? She told me it causes kidney failure and liver problems. She said it'll surely cure what I was taking it for, but a bigger problem will arise later. She advised that I google the side effects of the drug when I get home. Seeing her deep care and sincerity, I opted for the alternative drug she introduced to me right at the counter. And I was perfectly ok after taking them.

And through to her words, the side effects were very scary. It's an antibiotic. You can't take it before or after meal. You take it while eating. If you disobey, you face the repercussion immediately. I named it Satanic Drug!

Lol. This is seriously funny. A pharmacist told you not to take a drug because it causes kidney failure, and you disobeyed your doctor? Please you should have asked that pharmacist which drugs doesn't have organ failure as a side effect?
The truth is all drugs are poison. And that includes the pills, herbs, agbo etc. Anything that alters the body physiology is a drug. The paracetamol y'all abuse causes liver failure. The ibuprofen/ibucap/diclofenac causes kidney failure. Does it mean if you take it according to doc prescription you'll have organ failure? No! First thing, the doc won't prescribe it if you already have an organ failure, and if he does, it is for short period and he has weighed the pros outweighs the cons.

acewines:
I hate anything government hospital

I bought one drugs there according to the doctor's prescription and they covered the name with paper, after it got finished, I removed it only to see that it's tramadol...

My guy was stooling blood,na so general hospital for gbagada tell am to come back in 2 months time that that's when the specialist will be around.. now judge the matter

Hospitals cover drug names because Nigerians abuse drugs seriously, as in crazy abuse. So they are right, though patient has the right to know the name of the drug s/he is taking.
General and Teaching Hospitals are overbooked. If you have an urgent case, no need going there, just go to a private hospital. In this case your bro was stooling blood, he should have been admitted depending on the severity, but even at that, they are overcrowded. Even today, I sent an emergency case to GH Gbagada, and they bounced them. Same as LUTH and LASUTH. No space

oka4ugoo:
Doctors from government hospital . Just visit that doctor's private clinic tomorrow and you will be surprised that he will recommend for ur daddy a better different drugs.

You better go back to that pharmacist and ask him or her to give you a better alternative drug because as far as am concern the one you bought na original fake drug.

Aside from surgical operations, I believe pharmacists more than I believe doctors when it comes to drugs that's why with just ur lab result you can visit professional pharmacists (not chemists oo) for drug

This right here is a typical Nigerian, very ignorant but proud in his ignorance.
You want a pharmacist to prescribe a med for a diagnosis s/he didn't make. Really? The pharmacist that doesn't know the disease disease pathology and complications?
In one fell swoop, you casted all the government doctors into the trash can, but you're forgetting private practice doctors refer patients to government hospitals which include tertiary health institutions like Teaching and Specialist Hospitals. These hospitals are where you have the best professors in the medical field. But somehow, you prefer a pharmacist's prescription to theirs. Or if you have tetanus infection, multiple myeloma etc, you'll rush to a pharmacist?
And no, you aren't better off with visiting a pharmacist with lab tests because lab tests does not give the complete picture of a disease. You need a doctor to examine and take history. Some lab tests are plain useless, example is Widal test. Now this test has been abandoned a long time ago but roadside labs still swindle ignorant folks like you to do it, and they tell you your titer is high and prescribe drugs for you that you have typhoid fever. Lol
Til now, I still get patients sending me test results like Widal and Malaria parasite test, asking me to prescribe drugs for them. I ignore most of them. Some I take history from them.
About the OP's case, here's what I know.
Dexamethazone is very much a safe drug. We use it in a range of disease like allergies, shock, premature labor etc. What is the issue here is the brand of dexamethazone here which is Xasten. NAFDAC found out Xasten, Destrax, Dexacure etc contain substandard amount of the dexamethazone. Meaning the dexamethazone is not up to 0.5mg in each tab. So, the doctor is right by telling you to get dexamethazone. He doesn't know the actual brand youre buying. The pharmacist is wrong(or maybe you misunderstood him/her) in saying dexamethazone is banned or fake. She should have told the doctor the particular brand is substandard and not tell him dexamethazone is not safe.

Ken4Christ:
Christ is still the reference point for both dating systems. Jesus is Lord. No one can contest it.

No he isnt, unfortunately. Remove your head from the sand

Ken4Christ:
Jericho was part of the land given to the children of Israel. So, they had fight to possess it.

Yeah, and kill everyone in it, right?

Ken4Christ:
The reference you are citing are God's judgment on ungodly people.

He is a God of love and also a God of judgment.

The destruction of the Amalekite was in revenge of what they did to the children of Israel. Read the full story.

Isreal fought three kinds of battles

1. To take over the land God gave to them.
2. To defend themselves against hostile nations.
3. To avenge those who attacked them.

I specifically said Jericho, but you dodged it. What sin did the Jericho folks commit?
By the way as a god of love, the only way he can show love to the heathens was to kill them? What stops him from sending preachers/prophets to Jericho?

Ken4Christ:
Is that what is your identify card. The world does not recognize that reference of date.

The World does recognize it. It's unfortunate youre not making any attempt to educate yourself because you're afraid of the truth.
By the way, whats on my id is 19xx, not CE or BCE. If there is anything else on yours, show it here

Ken4Christ:
The children of Israel of old only fought those who fought them. They don't go looking for people to fight or killing people at will.

They fight in revenge.

But Jesus has changed all that. This is why Muslims are taking us for granted. They know we are peaceful.

Stop quoting baseless history. Let's focus on what is happening now.

Obviously there are many Christians that don't even know the bible and yet engage atheists. Looks like this is one of the scenarios.
A number of cases of mass killings of people, apparently at God’s behest, are recorded in the Old Testament:

1. The Flood (Genesis 6-
2. The cities of the plain, including Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 18-19)
3. The Egyptian firstborn sons during the Passover (Exodus 11-12)
4. The Canaanites under Moses and Joshua (Numbers 21:2-3; Deuteronomy 20:17; Joshua 6:17, 21)
5. The Amalekites annihilated by Saul (1 Samuel 15)

The first three examples are similar in that there was no human agent involved – in each case it was God, or an angel of God, who carried out the mass killings directly. The mass killing of the Canaanites is the first of two cases in which the text claims that God’s people, the nation of Israel, were commanded by Him to attack other nations. Also remember the story of Jericho. Did the people of Jericho trouble or attack the Israelites? No. They were just going about their business. Next thing, yahweh ordered the Israelites to slaughter everybody, including babies. An all loving god
Focus on what is happening now? Okay.
We have christian terrorists which I pointed out to you in a link, but I can bet you didn't open that link. You're afraid of the truth.
I also told you about christians that torture and kill children, believing them to be the cause of their problems. But you ignored that.
Islam is as bloodthirsty as Christians.

Ken4Christ:
You are lying to your teeth. Oya, tell me your birthday with reference to CE.

Its unfortunate you don't know all these things. Even when I corrected you, instead of checking if I'm wrong, you started calling me a liar. Here, cure your ignorance…

https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/BCE#:~:text=Britannica%20Dictionary%20definition%20of%20BCE,550%20B.C.E.

So my birthday is 19xx CE

Mystery9:
Did we Christians tell anyone that Jesus was born on December 25th. Stop saying nonsense, go and learn.

His point is your Jesus was a fake

Ken4Christ:
What is there to learn about Islam when history is before us. How did Islam spread to Nigeria and West Africa? Was it not through jihad.

And they just resumed the jihad.

Even several verses in the Quran instructs them to kill.

If the Muslims are not in support of the killings, how many of those who have killed have been arrested and prosecuted?

Where are the killers of Deborah?

Kano state Court discharged five people who murdered a woman in the market for blasphemy.

What other evidence do you need.

And stop making reference to baseless history.

The witnesses of what is happening right before our eyes attest to the truth that they enjoy killing none Muslims at the slightest provocation.

I was in Kano when countless hundreds of Christians were murdered in 1991 just to protest that they don't want Reinhard Bonkke of blessed memories to preach.

My four years study in ABU was marred with crises virtually every year of my study.

Please say something else.

Jesus is the only hope of salvation for mankind.

If you reject him, you will be cast into hell.

And from hell to the lake of fire for the rest of your life.

The choice is yours.

Again you keep dodging talk about the Crusades, which caused killed millions. But you can gladly talk about Jihad. Aren't you seeing your hypocrisy?
The Crusaders killed millions that refused to take christianity, over 200 years. I'm sure you know this but you're hiding it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/topics/middle-ages/crusades

You also forgot your Yahweh ordered the death of heathens and unbelievers.

Luke 19:27
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me

Psalms 106:34-43
34 They did not kill the heathen, as the Lord had commanded them to do,

Many other bible verses where he instructed heathens to be killed without even preaching to them.
So, he's equally a bloodthirsty god as Allah

Ken4Christ:
You can't state your birthday without making reference to Jesus.

When you say I was born 1990 for example, you are saying that you were born 1,990 years after the birth of Jesus.

History is either BC or AD. Jesus is Lord.

No sir. History isn't referenced according to Jesus these days. We use BCE, (Before The Common Era) and CE (Common Era).
You're like a regular theist

MaxInDHouse:
Actually there are atheists who believe in God.

Find out what Jesus called CHRIST taught then you can convince any right thinking person that there are CHRIST-ian TERRORISTS!

Good morning sir. How did the child mol@station go?

Ken4Christ:
It's the genuine Muslim who kills and terrorize people. They are indoctrinated to do so. Their founder laid the foundation.

Islam spread through wars known as jihad. But Christianity spreads just through the preaching of the gospel even in the midst of persecutions.

Take away sword from Islam, it will disappear in less than 20 years.

Most of their adherents are held against their will. They have seen the truth but are afraid of converting because of persecution.

1. Typical theist. Obviously you haven't about The Crusade. This lasted from 1095 until 1291 CE. The aim was to capture the sacred places in the Holy Land from the Muslims who lived there, so it was intended as a war to right wrongs done against Christianity. The first Crusade was started by Pope Urban II in 1095.https://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/war/religious/holywar.shtml#:~:text=The%20great%20series%20of%20western,Pope%20Urban%20II%20in%201095.

2. Again its obvious you haven't interacted or read about Muslims. They claim the terrorists aren't real Muslims. Same way you claim the Christian terrorists aren't real christians. Live with it.

Ken4Christ:
No one has been able to refute those claims even the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. The fact that historical records revolves around Jesus is proof positive that the world has accepted that the claims are true.

Even you also have accepted that they are true. Each time you fill your birthday, it makes reference to Jesus and you have invariably submitted to his lordship. You have no birthday without Jesus.

Lol. Refute the claims? He who alleges must provide proof
You said Jesus rose from the dead but its only written in the Bible and no other historical books. The onus lies on you to provide evidence. Archaeologists haven't seen any empty grave of Jesus.
Please how is my birthdays remotely connected to your jesus? Have you been smoking that stuff again?

Aemmyjah:
This guy brain needs washing with hypo


1. A false website obviously setup by an apostate to malign Jehovah's Witnesses and decieve the gullible like Apeman jaephoenix... A fraud kingpin from a good home You need to visit a blacksmith to reset your Brain

2. Another fake site... We presented all the facts the ARC needed but people still distort that event till today. Well, fools are trying all they can to malign the name and reputation of the only peaceable and loving and most united organization on Earth. Not everyone likes good thing and that is why they will not say anything about other organizations


3. This guy is a fool. What has those people got to do with Jehovah's Witnesses? Three people were arrested for fraud. So? Small time, any terrorist that is arrested will be linked to us... A very bad fool is this guy... There is no link to even support his witch-hunt junkie

4. Mumu guy... Lies are for you na. Lies does to you are people of shallow understanding what bait does to fishes.... You are free to fabricate any stories you want...

So it was fake news that JW settled the victim, or what?
Or was it fake news that the JW Member committed suicide when police came to arrest him for his crimes?

MaxInDHouse:
The court case happen in your head shey?
In what state in Nigeria?
Which of the courts?
What is the name of the JW?
And what is the name of his congregation?
Ọmọ you're just playing a clown!

When last did you fake JWs mol@st a child?

MaxInDHouse:
Stop lying against the nicest people on planet earth!

Lol. I expected this. Morning, bro

Ken4Christ:
The evidence that Jesus is alive is overwhelming. He appeared to his disciples and to over 500 witnesses.

He also changed my life. What other evidence do you need?

1. Again, all the story about about your Jesus was found only in your Bible, and nowhere else. No history book bore his life and resurrection. What does that tell you?

2. Same way Zeus, Allah, Brahma etc 'changed' the lives of their believers. This scam isnt synonymous with Christianity alone but every religion

Ken4Christ:
There are no Christians who are terrorists unless those who just claim to be one. No genuinely born again Christians will terrorize anyone.

Same exact thing Muslims say. Lemme rephrase….
There are no Muslims who are terrorists unless those who just claim to be one. No genuine Muslim will terrorize anyone.

Does the above statement sound familiar?

MaxInDHouse:
Good!

So how far about the case?
What happened in court?

He was convicted. Your elders couldn't gather enough cash to bribe the victim aka settle out of court. Sorry

MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi you sabi pass sabinus!
So they made it a compulsion for anyone to swear in the name of the God he or she believes but then they don't believe in any.
What a contradiction!

Did you read about the part I mentioned Psychological Pressure?

This is the definition

excessive or stressful demands, imagined or real, made on an individual to think, feel, or act in particular ways

Its a way of saying 'whatever rocks your boat, but tell us the truth'

Aemmyjah:
If you go to the market and you see someone run suddenly
Another person does same
Then you run and scream, 'run oo'
You'll see people run especially the market women
They will be the ones persuading others to run cos THEY HAVE SEEN ROBBERS ROBBING PEOPLE AND USING GUNS

That's why you can't take their claims seriously especially the older women. You simply have to investigate
The Bible itself says that the naive person believes every word
You're very naive

So you think your elders that pay millions of dollars in settlement (a settlement they asked for, and not the accuser) were innocent, right?
Why didn't they tell the accusers to go ahead and continue the court case if they were innocent?

Aemmyjah:
Fools plenty for NL
You just want to make this forum uncomfortable for us with your lies cos you're unable to contribute anything meaningful and Max does not want to give you that 'drop of water' as the torment was too much

Lol. What a strong defense of MadMax and his crimes. So we were 'tormenting' him with the truth, right?
Hint: Never try to join the legal organization, you suck at it

@maxindhouse and @ammyjah
Your organization is a cesspit of a potpourri of crimes. I just took my time to sieve through the evidence everywhere. From rape, pedophilia, money laundering etc.

1. Money laundering
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/108089/watchtower-way-laundering-money

Minister of State for Niger Delta Affairs, Festus Keyamo, has described suspected fraud kingpin, Jerry Ikogho, as a brother and friend from a good home. Ikogho is a known JW member.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/108089/watchtower-way-laundering-money

2. Aiding and abetting crimes
The royal commission uncovered a vast cache of files compiled by Jehovah’s Witnesses members over more than 60 years. These files documented allegations and confessions of the abuse of more than 1,800 children by more than 1,000 alleged perpetrators in Australia.
The royal commission found no evidence the Australian branch office had ever alerted authorities about any of the alleged abuse documented in these files.

http://jwemployees.bravehost.com/NewsReports/2054.html

3. Ponzi schemes
$700,000,000.00 were seized all over Europe. The four listed defendants and others were arrested. In August 2008, reportedly, Ulrich Chmiel and his two sons were convicted on PONZI-SCHEME type fraud charges. Reportedly, Ulrich Chmiel and Oliver Braun were each sentenced to 81 months in prison. Alexander Chmiel, age 31, reportedly was sentenced to 60 months in prison, but all or part that term may have been suspended. Christian Chmiel, age 27, reportedly was sentenced to two years in prison, but he too may have received only probation. Reportedly, even after the above convictions, three employees, including a female, who continued to operate AKZENTA AK, and who continued to defraud clients were arrested and prosecuted in 2008-09.

By 2011, 15,000 clients had filed claims against the in-bankruptcy firm -- totaling nearly $150,000,000.00.

One can only wonder how many MILLIONS of dollars the schemers donated to the WatchTower Society in order to establish and maintain their "credibility" with victims and potential victims. Those donated MILLIONS should have been the target of any "claw back" actions every bit as much as the money paid back to early investors to establish and maintain the credibility of the Ponzi scheme. Both payouts served the same Ponzi scheme function.


4. Pedophilia
The four are being prosecuted by the Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General for the following charges:

Jose Serrano, 69, is alleged to have molested six young girls in 2011. He admitted to these crimes and to a life-long struggle with deviant impulses. He has been charged with aggravated indecent assault, indecent assault, and endangering the welfare of children.
Jesse Hill, 52, is alleged to have used his milling business to attract young boys from his Jehovah’s Witness congregation, with promises of alcohol, marijuana, and pornography to his property for parties in the 1990s. Hill would later expose himself to the children, grope them and force them to perform MouthAction. The investigation revealed at least 10 victims of the abuse. Hill has been charged with rape, involuntary deviant sexual intercourse, indecent assault, and corruption of minors.
Robert Ostrander, 56, is alleged to have sexually abused at least two minors. He has been charged with indecent assault, endangering welfare of children, and corruption of minors.
Eric Eleam, 61, was alleged to have sexually abused a child and used sexual molestation as a form of discipline for that child. He has been charged with rape, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, aggravated indecent assault, and endangering the welfare of a child. When agents attempted to take him into custody, police say[b] he retreated into his bathroom and killed himself.[/b]


At this point, I just decided to give it a rest. MadMax and his crew are a bunch of criminals. The last sex offender Eric Eleam even committed suicide which even confirms his culpability.
So MadMax abeg talk another lie, your talk holds no water

MaxInDHouse:
No matter what they say as long as they're unable to find such in their community they supposed to sense that something is wrong somewhere.
Throughout the world today a religion is known for terrorism and it's not just the News but what is happening here in Nigeria so they can't deny it but News from afar that you can't verify within your community whereas members of this same group are within your community without a single person caught in the act!

And in the oversea countries where we believe they have the best system these people claim JWs were caught in the act yet instead of sending them to prison they're demanding for money!

I remember when many people were accusing Michael Jackson of child molestation the man never mind and after going to court they will ask him to pay because the cases are shady and his managers will advise him to pay so as to continue his career. But the day Michael died all those people came shedding tears and confessing that everything was lies just to extort money from the kindhearted man!

So let them continue crying up and down as long as they're saying there's no evidence of God's existence simply because they can't see him then their cries over what people say about God's organization is unjustified if they can't see a JW in their neighbourhood caught in such act!

At the bolded, stop lying, bro. Its you guys that go behind to seek for settlement. Lawyers who have battled the Jehovah’s Witnesses in the US and UK have said the JW organisation has a global problem with both child abuse and the way it responds to victims. The organisation drags cases out until the last possible moment, then settles to avoid a courtroom examination of its practices. If they were innocent, they would have allowed the case to go to court. But because of the excess crime, your heads secretly settle and ask to pay money.