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ComeToJesus:
Omo! This comment is platinum standard. I laughed like wetin.

Bull's eye.

Having said that, there's always a God-shaped hole in every human that only God can fill. You come to a point that career and status doesn't really cut it for you any longer. You begin to long for the supernatural. At that point, it's no longer what mansions or cars or money any longer. It is the divine nudging for the Immanent.

Many successful and rich people are atheists or agnostics. From Elon Musk to Bill Gates etc. No god shaped rubbish anywhere

blueAgent:
Crap, it's obvious you don't read much.

Go and read about the history of human rights and you will find that Bible was the greatest inspiration.

Google about it magna carta

Like I predicted, you didn't even read my link. But you expect me to read yours?
Anyway, Magna Carta was used to commit crimes, and no, human rights didn’t get its origins from the Bible. It was started by Monsieur René Cassin, and he didn't involve the Bible. The Bible actually allowed slavery. Remember it told Israelites to kill babies and take captives as slaves. It even told slaves how to obey their masters. Nowhere did it castigate slavery

blueAgent:
So where do morals come from, if not from religeon?

Morals didn’t come from religion. Early humans used collaborative foraging to develop a new kind of cooperative reasoning that led them to treat others as equally deserving partners—that is, not just with sympathy but also with a sense of fairness. You can read up more if you are so inclined, though I don't think you would.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-origins-of-human-morality/

Aemmyjah:
Pained liar
Why not check the internet
Search the seven wonders of the world

I'm not refuting that Taj is a wonder and I agree it has a Maker. It did not just appear by itself unlike a fool that thinks the universe came by itself

1. This is a link explaining the Wonders and if they're still around
https://www.studyiq.com/articles/seven-wonders-of-the-world/
2. We're not debating about the origins of Taj Mahal, you slippery eel. I alluded to it because you said the Wonders of the world are no longer around

Aemmyjah:
Logic and facts gives reason to believe that there is an intelligence behind the designs in nature

Hellfire is a religious beliefs that is not in the Bible

Go and sleep

So where is the fact backing up your creation story? I need just one

tctrills:
No scientist do not need toix science with religion. Saying scientist ignore the bible is just like saying economist ignore the bible. The bible is neither a science or economic textbook. Each has its place.

Lemme break it down.
All branches of science ignore the input of the Bible. Examples…
Anthropology. It doesn't believe we were created from dust by a Supreme being. It accepts we evolved from other species.
Biology. It believes man is evolving from a different specie, and is still evolving(thus my topic)
Paleontology is studying the prehistoric life that existed prior to, and sometimes including, the start of the Holocene epoch. It includes the study of fossils to classify organisms and study their interactions with each other and their environments.
Etc etc
None of them is chasing after the Bible stories to study how he came about. None of them is going to check where the garden of Eden was. And definitely none of them would insert the Bible stories (or any religious stories) into the origin of man. Why? They have all been found to be lies and don't add up. The great flood don't add up. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah has no historical backup. Some of the stories have been found to be lies.
I can go on, but unless this is a new thread, I'll have to stop

tctrills:
Ok your opinion

Its not my opinion but facts. That is why scientists ignore the bible or other Holy books.
If you're so obliged I can drop the verses here. Or better still, open a thread about it so more theists can critique it.

Aemmyjah:
Apes cannot use the internet

Lol. Is that all you can say? After your ignorance is exposed?

Aemmyjah:
Lol
What nonsense screenshot

You dropped false screenshot to prove there was no article about Nimrod
I dropped my screenshot about him

Now you lie he's just a city. A city becoming king and hunting animals?
You get problem bros

Why not ask Wiki

I followed your exact instructions, homie. You told me to go to BBC and type in those 2 words. And that was the hits I got. So don't blame me, blame your ignorance.
Also from your own screenshot, it's depicted Nimrod as a city not as a hunter
Your mental retardation is getting plain for all to see

Aemmyjah:
Check BBC
CHECK the internet if you really want to know
Google about Nimrod and stop asking stupid question

If I had seen such, would I be asking you. Also notice I actually checked BBC (as evidenced by my screenshot)

tctrills:
The bible

I'm not interested in what the Bible has to say about creation, or any topic, for that matter. Why? It contains debatable issues, condones misogyny, slaving, incest etc. Plus it lies and an unscientific . Worse still, its not backed by any shred of historical or archaeological data. So its not reliable.

tctrills:
But we did not come from apes so they can't be our cousins.
Unless you mean cousin in the sense that we share similarities.
One could even argue that there are very little differences between all marmals in general.

I posted links from scientists explaining how we came from the Great Ape. Where did it state we didn't come from apes?

Aemmyjah:
Again, hellfire is not a Bible teaching
People don't burn in hell

Hell is English
Hades is the Greek Word for hell
Shoel is the Hebrew word

They are have the same symbolic meaning as the common grave of mankind. Maybe your hellfire was a darwinian doctrine

I know they don't exist. Same as your heaven or god. But your fellow theist coined it and believe it.
I don't care either way. You're going to hell

Aemmyjah:
Liar
You know what I'm talking about when I mentioned that some are no longer existing and I mentioned that only the pyramids are surviving

The ones like the hanging gardens, Temple of artemis and the likes. Will you say they never existed?
Those are the SEVEN wonders of the world

Ignorant ape calling himself a doctor. Fatal doc

This is what you typed with your ignorant fingers

There are seven wonders of the world, maybe eight
Only the Egyptian pyramid is surviving

And I corrected you that they are pretty much around. And you went off in a tangent!
See being ignorant is one thing. Being arrogantly ignorant is another

tctrills:
So your point?

There's not much difference between apes and us. They're our distant cousins in the Great Ape family

Aemmyjah:
See this ape
Read the accounts and articles again and don't be a Fool
He had a city named after himself and you're behaving like a child
Are you sure you're not 4 year old?

Can you give me the links where they stated Nimrod had a city named after him?

tctrills:
Science does not believe man is an ape. The Group called primate is also know as great ape. Please get your facts right. Still, what is the difference between man and ape?

Yes , science believe we're apes.
Look at the taxonomy of humans in the screenshot

tctrills:
Clearly, you don't know the difference and you openly said men are apes which no scientist would agree with. So why don't you carefully read your links to see if you would finally understand the difference between man and ape.
You don't even need to be intelligent to observe that there is a striking difference between the image of an ape and that of man. Even a 3 years old knows that are different. So really, what is your point.

We descended from the Great Apes, not ape. Get my information right. If you understand taxonomy(or you read my links) it clearly stated humans and other primates make up the descendants of the Great Apes. So yes, scientists believe we are apes. I wonder why you say such things after perusing the articles. There's also the Lesser Apes, which are significantly different from the Greater Apes. So scientifically, apes are not a singular animals. Its a group, which includes humans

tctrills:
So not only did we evolve from apes but we are actually apes.
Again you are yet to mention the difference between humans and apes.
Oh sorry, there is no difference you actually think you are an ape. I get.

From those links(if you actually did read them) you can pick up the differences.

tctrills:
Lol, I knew you would go there but when you know the difference between man and ape we can discuss.
I guess you watch planet of the apes and you now think that it's real life.
As one who believe that humans evolved from apes, did they not teach you that the difference between man and ape is over 6 million years?
So clearly, you don't even understand evolution.
Please list very small differences between man and ape, that is if there is any. It seems you believe that Haman beings are basically apes.

Lets go.
Humans are actually apes.
We all descended from a family of Great Apes, millions of years ago.
https://australian.museum/learn/science/human-evolution/humans-are-apes-great-apes/

We gradually lost our tails and other appendages and gained some too, all thanks to evolution. Also dietary and environmental changes gave rise to loss of organs like appendices, and the above mentioned tails. We also share certain genes too
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality

Due to the close genetic relationship between humans and the other great apes, certain animal rights organizations, such as the Great Ape Project, argue that nonhuman great apes are persons and should be given basic human rights. Twenty-nine countries have instituted research bans to protect great apes from any kind of scientific testing.

I could go on but these are apparently rudimentary knowledge but yet its almost unknown in these parts. People know the Bible and koran more than science. I didn't even apply my medical knowledge in imbibing these.

tctrills:
This is a serious discussion so forget the humor. If you can't tell the difference between a man and an ape then why this discussion.

Your command of English is obviously poor. Humor in this context doesn't necessarily mean comedy. It means engage me.
There is very little that differentiate us from apes. I betting your knowledge of anatomy and biology is good, before engaging in this argument. If not, I might as well stop. No use debating with another DTruthSpeaker, Maximus or Aemyjah

Dtruthspeaker:
The Law of hearsay evidence does not care who likes it and your insulting me just proves you have NO THING!

People resort to insults when they can not argue. Loser!

And I guess scientists use hearsays in their researches, right?

Dtruthspeaker:
Hear say evidence ape. Hearsay evidence. I do not accept hearsay evidence. I have already told you that hearsay evidence is no evidence. So you have NO THING ape !

Bro, those are government publications, scientific journals and international news outlet, and you say they're hearsay?
Lol
Bro, you're a wonderfully dumb theist. I think you just surpassed MadMax in the dumb world. They should create a dumb world and make you the king.
All hail King DTruthSpeaker

tctrills:
If you don't know, then we shouldn't even be having this discussion.
I advise you use Google or better, Chatgpt and in 5 mins, you would learn those differences.

Just humor me. Can you list the differences?

Dtruthspeaker:
It is a guaranteed. People talk, doctors, nurses, parents, relatives, therefore in the end, if it was true, we would certainly hear about it.

There is no fire without smoke and this one does not even have any steam. So you have no thing.

And of course I saw those pics which you forget is a fabrication. A creation and production of MGM movies, Warner Bros, DreamWorks, A Steven Spielberg production. It is all fabrication and theatricals and props exactly how they created zombies and vampires.

Only mad people believe movies.

I know there are many stupidly ignorant folks like you on Nairaland. So I'll post some links for y'all to read up. No need to post pictures
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3263034/
The above is from a scientific research website

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tribuneindia.com/news/science-technology/baby-born-with-12-cm-long-human-tail-in-brazil-scientists-release-pictures-334725

The above is from a well known national site

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213576621003195
This is a research journal
There are many sites if you really wanna help reduce your ignorance. Its amazing an adult can be this ignorant in 2022

Aemmyjah:
Lol
See pot calling kettle black
There are seven wonders of the world, maybe eight
Only the Egyptian pyramid is surviving
Because we have not seen the rest is enough reason to make us believe they never existed right?
How much more a gigantic ark built of wood over 4000 years ago?
Your brain needs to be tested by a blacksmith?

All the wonders of the world are very much around. From Taj Mahal, to Jesus the Redeemer, to Leaning Tower etc. Stop all these lies. You'll burn in hell. Don't say I didn’t warn you

Aemmyjah:
Since, it is a waste of time to you
Lemme be the first person to save my time by not showing you how it is being fulfilled. Think about the name - REVELATION

You have eyes but you are mentally blind
Not as if you want to know it's fulfillment
Bible tells Aemmy not to give what is holy to swine (pigs) cos they will turn back and trample on you

… and he turns tail and flees

tctrills:
You are not really making a point? Because man and apes share genetics then God is misleading? How does that make any sense to you.
What's wrong with God making lesser animals that share genes with man? How is that even an argument?
God created man in his image and created lesser animals that share genetics with man simple.
While there are lots of similarities between us and apes, the differences are as light and day.
We have the ability to become like God. No other animal has that ability.

What ability makes us godlike

tctrills:
Why does the whale look like the fish? Even in evolution, you would learn that the whale evolved from land animals not the fish. Yet it looks more like the fish than a land animal.
Again there are as much differences as there are similarities between man and the chimp.
Yes God looks like a man. We were created in his image. I don't think the ape looks like a man. There are so much differences. But when it comes to man and God, we look the same.At least that's what the bible says.

What's the difference between an ape and man?

DeusXmachina:
Then your God is a very misleading god, isn't he?

Not only did he create humans to share 99% of their genetic makeup with the other great apes, he went forth to plant the fossils of numerous human-ape like beings that preceded humanity, almost as though we shared a lineage.
For a set of special creations made from earth in his image, he sure did make us really remarkably similar to the great apes, mammals and other life on the planet, and planted a lot of misleading evidence in the genetic and fossil record, and our physiology.
Heck he even made sure to give humanity the same evolutionary flaws as all other land animals.

Dude is a theist. Logic aint their strong points

MaxInDHouse:
Clap for yourself!

Clap, clap, clap

Dtruthspeaker:
Your presentation is void because it is not True. No one in Nigeria has ever seen a baby born with a tail or even heard of one.

And of course we have never seen a person growing a tail at all and we all call you mad when you say you have a tail. (Ngwa man go cut am use am as human-tail meat)

There are many babies born with tails. We usually excise them because of societal and religious discrimination. Your ignorance stinks to high heavens. Besides you think if baby is born with a tail, its parents would be displaying it everywhere. Just like hermaphrodite babies. The parent hides the genitals and tell the world any sex they wish. When the baby grows us, s/he decides what s/he wanna be