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Aemmyjah:
Foolish stats is what you're dropping here
Like your nonsense atheists and evolutionist, you drop theories you can't prove or even genuine

Go and count the one atheist Stalin, atheist Putinz atheist Khmer of Cambodia has killed

1. Like your regular response to my facts, you have no rebuttal, just insults. Those numbers were gotten from your Bible. If you need the verses, let me know. For you to doubt it means you don't know your Bible, which is typical you
2. Out of all three people you mentioned, only Stalin was an atheist(though he had religious background) and he wasn't a mass murderer. Khmer was a Buddhist while Putin is a Russian Orthodox christian, both are mass murderers . You conveniently forgot about Hitler, the biggest mass murderer the world has known, who is a known German Pentecostal.
Try and learn some basic knowledge before engaging me.

Nawttiboi007:
With the example u juz gave, sorry to tell you this, you’re practically off point.

Nairalanders just show how poor our educational system is.
It was boldly written that the hospital tried to refer them to other hospitals but the patient relatives declined because of financial reasons, til they agreed on one option, which they(patient's relatives) finally agreed to go.
Some people are funny

Aemmyjah:
Show me where he said it
It was foretold that the miracle his disciples did in the first century will cease and they did?
The ones you been seeing is scam and to deceive people to think they have God's power. Faith healing is not a sign of true Christianity
These miracle workers are unlike Jesus. Amassing Wealth, promoting politics and conflicts and egoistic. They even seem to be higher than Jesus himself and they are far from humble. They talk like they can bring down government... You're the one allowing scammers to deceive you and you are making wrong conclusion

Psalm 107:20 ESV / 25
He sent out his word and healed them, and delivered them from their destruction

James 5:14-16 ESV / 31
Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working

Matthew 19:26
But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible

Psalm 147:3 ESV / 64
He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds

1 Peter 2:24 ESV / 72
He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed

Proverbs 3:7-8
Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil. It will be healing to your flesh and refreshment to your bones

Exodus 23:25 ESV / 151
You shall serve the Lord your God, and he will bless your bread and your water, and I will take sickness away from among you

Exodus 15:26 ESV / 185
Saying, “If you will diligently listen to the voice of the Lord your God, and do that which is right in his eyes, and give ear to his commandments and keep all his statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you that I put on the Egyptians, for I am the Lord, your healer

Jeremiah 33:6 ESV / 216
Behold, I will bring to it health and healing, and I will heal them and reveal to them abundance of prosperity and security

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God is Love.

Yeah, so love-filled he kills children that dissed Elijah, newborn babies, burning the sons of Moses’ brother Aaron’s to death for doing what all teenagers do—playing with fire, even killing Israelites for complaining.
Awww. God is truly love

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You can tell anyone you want to tell, Jesus said so.

No, tell them yourself. If I do, he'll not believe me even though its the truth

Dtruthspeaker:
Of course if not you would be dead. But coming here to ask about the Bible which you have denied should not be part of your living.

Bro, we're having a debate. You mean I should not debate on what I know of?

Aemmyjah:
I heard of it
That's why I said it is not TRUE Christianity cos true Christianity has nothing to do with wars or politics. Jesus disowns them

Look at this

Matthew 7:15-23

15. Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.

16 By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they?

17 Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit.

19 Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

20 Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men.

21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.

22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’

23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’

So Jesus foretold that many will misrepresent him and even do wonders and powerful works using his name but he will denounce them as criminals. It is not just looking at any tree (religious group that look or claim to follow Christ), look at their works too. Some of them produce rotten fruits and are no worse than those who don't know God like the Crusades you talked about. Jesus never asked him disciples to fight but be peacemakers and flee if persecuted. If Jesus Christ were alive, would he have led any Crusades. Remember that the two world wars were fought by 'christian' nations. Catholics kill Catholics and protestant kill protestant. They all preach love by mouth (appearing ripe from afar) but their fruitage (works) makes the entire tree rotten


Look at this one too

1 John 3:10-12

10. The children of God and the children of the Devil are evident by this fact: Whoever does not practice righteousness does not originate with God, nor does the one who does not love his brother.
11 For this is the message that you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another;
12 not like Cain, who originated with the wicked one and slaughtered his brother. And for what reason did he slaughter him? Because his own works were wicked, but those of his brother were righteous...

Those that fought the crusades are still involved in wars today like that in Russia and Ukraine, they were involved in the genocide I'm Rwanda but claim to worship God when they are in fact, children of the devil by mouth. They don't practice righteousness, they condone and approve it. See what churches are doing about homosexuality and morals...
In Jesus day, the Pharisees and Sadducees claimed to worship God but they persecuted and killed his son, Jesus Christ even though they knew who he was. Jesus earlier denounced them as children of the devil as John 8:44 says...

In Russia and Ukraine, Muslims are killing Muslims, 'christian'killing 'christian', atheists killing atheists.
In those two nations are one unique group of people, as Isaiah foretold (also written in the UN wall), they will not fight against nation, they will not take up swords to harm one another but are turning their swords (violent instincts) into plowshares (useful behavior that benefits themselves and others) and spears to pruning hooks... What does that mean? You are not even safe as an atheist from fellow atheists during conflict but I am cos I am in that group. The problem is that people who denounce Christendom cos of wars still denounce us for not killing others in the spirit of patriotism, politics and ethnicity.

That group, is you wanna know are the JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES


I'll advise you to allow them study with your family if you want to be a proud family head especially as children these days are quickly blown away with the immoral, violent, materialistic, egoistic wind blowing mankind today. Everything is free. Better resource are in our website... They are humans and not apes. Unlike dad, they must come to understand that they are here for a purpose, their existence is not by accident and they can find meaning in life

Lol.
You guys surely must be the salt of the earth
Guess what? You're dead wrong!
Lots of atrocities have been committed by your group, and guess what's even worse, you guys and your elders try to hide it, while presenting yourself as sparkling (just like you did). Verified accounts of children getting molested and your elders keeping those molesters away from public scrutiny, even going as far as warning the victims and their families not to complain to authorities, and ostracizing them if they do. Do you think such molesters would stop if they are protected?
Now if there's something I hate, that is hypocrisy. You guys are so hypocritical it makes me sick. I'd rather join other groups that agree they are not saints than join one that paint themselves saintly but their hearts are no irreligious.
Then this no-blood transfusion doctrine. This one affects me because I have seen many patients die from this (oddly enough, they are all women and children). Your bloodless surgery treatment is glaringly not for all cases. Its not for
A) Patient bleeding from huge lacerations from major bleeders like popliteal and femoral vessels, sustained from road traffic accidents
B) Women who have post partum hemorrhage bleeding uncontrollably from a torn uterus
C) Babies with severe jaundice who need exchange blood transfusion
D) People with blood disorders that require fractionated blood
Etc etc
All the above are life threatening and require blood.
But your organization tells you blood alternatives like haemacel etc work, but they don't tell you it doesn't work in all the conditions, like those ones I posted up there.

So take your JW narrative and stuff it where the sun don't shine.

Aemmyjah:
In addition to what I skipped, I see some hospital say 'We care but God heals'. Ben Carson was a christian I think but whether we are cured or not, whether we are healed in a hospital bed or traditional or by surgery or we even die during sickness, it does not discredit God. He's allowed us to try every possible means available for healing ourselves but in his own due time, as he has promised, he will bring an end to all forms of sickness and pain.

Yet, there are some sickness and pain that hospital cannot heal or cure but we have to manage and many are life-threatening and discouraging as well bringing all kinds of anxieties. These are ones that hospital cannot heal or therapy can help. At that point, we draw close to our Father for strength to deal with such healness and comfort... Even if I'm sick, I beg him for strength to go through it and for quick recovery and I thank him as always

But in his book, he promised healing to his people. I'm yet to see any christian getting any miracles in hospitals. Only place I see such is on social media and tv, where they cannot be verified
So are you saying your god lied about healing and good health?

Aemmyjah:
1. Things that men thought would be impossible years ago is now done now
Who would have believe that men could 'fly' to another part of the globe within days or hours. No one could have thought that we could fly like the birds. Though we can't fly naturally but we are able to transport ourselves to another part of the world by air
Who would have thought that I can stay in one place and talk to another person in another part of the Earth without any wire connection and he will be listening at the same time. We can even talk to astronaut who are in space
Many years ago, people did not believe that we could store memory on something smaller than a matchbox but look at what we have accomplished today
Could you have convinced a man 2000 years ago that he could watch a live event taking place in another part of the Earth?

You are the one looking at things with a biased, shortsighted view without considering the whole. Infact, many says that nothing is impossible with science but improbable... I'm sure that you've head of cryonics, people do not bury their dead but keep them in the machine so that when science are able to invent something to 'resurrect the dead, they could resurrect such ones too'... You may do research on cryonics. What about teleportation and the rest? Yet, man's ability is limited and prone to error
If man can do this by wisdom and power, is it wrong to believe that God cannot do great things that seem impossible like making a donkey speak (he's the one that made them), another super spirit creature tried making a snake speak or made it appear to speak to the woman. It is impossible that a man can even kill 1000 children with a jaw bone and not get tired from swinging, how much more killing 1000 powerful men with a jawbone. The Bible says it was because Samson was empowered with holy spirit. That same powerful spirit is God's active force and the same force God used in creating the universe and doing miracles. The problem is now you reason

2. Then your existence is meaningless. You are like animals that live for the moment, grasping the pleasures for the moment and these pleasures do not last, you won't enjoy them forever and they can be taken away. If so, you are alone, without hope as well.
Because you have avoided the scam in religion does not make ALL religion a scam. Just as one cannot say there is no printing and minting company in Nigeria cos of prevalence of fake money. That's why I asked atheists, is atheism the answer? No meaningful answer.

My illustration of boat on highway was that just as a boat was made to transport in water as the Maker made, anyone who used it otherwise will only frustrate himself at the long run. Similarly, we can't enjoy a meaningful life without knowing WHY we are here, WHO made us and WHAT to do to find meaning in life and WHERE we are going. It is like finding yourself in a bus without knowing how you got in, where you are going and the reason for travel. Some don't bother to ask questions, they just want to travel until wherever their destination leads them. Knowledge of God fills our mind with awe, we know we are not alone, we have a reliable guide, someone who can comfort us, tell us how we came, why we are here, why we suffer, what the future holds, the meaning of life.
The future atheists predict is always bleak

1. See how you're turning round and round, and getting yourself twisted because you're now caught out. Some chats ago, you said you didn't believe I can fly with wings to UK, that it isn't humanly possible . Now that I quoted the Bible, you have done a volte face and now saying scientists can do many things. But you forgot to tell me scientists can do many things when I told you I flew. Lol
What makes you think god didn’t give me the wings to fly to the UK?
Why doesn't your god heal that your glaucoma patient? Or you don't have 'The life of god' in you again?
Of course, Samson's enemies were all standing in a queue waiting their turn to be slaughtered just like cow. None of them thought of running away
2. Bro, I found meaning in my existence. I heal people through scientific means. And I love the job. My own idea of the meaning of life doesn't have to tally with yours. Live in your lane and I'll live in mine.
Bro, you guys still use the bible, dont you? If you can prove to me the bible is legit, I'll trust it, but in the meantime, you haven't given a shred of evidence of its credibility.
So going by your analogy, any other person that doesn't fill his heart with your god lives a meaningless life? So that includes non-JW christians , Muslims, Buddhists etc. So basically 99% of the world live meaningless lives? Okay
By the way I can comfort myself. Same way atheists in other countries console themselves . I was an atheist when my dad died, when all my siblings were crying, I was chilled. They were mumbling about meeting my dad in the afterlife bullshit. I just smiled.

Dtruthspeaker:
If you have checked it out and you find it false then you should not be here asking.

You can live your life while we live ours.

I have been living my life good, bro.

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To judge or destroy the creatures alive then.

Then he's quite a loving god, init?

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Not as dicey as judge. It's not primarily a human's job anyway.

Cool. So you accept its no christian's job to judge another. So tell that to your buddies here, DTruthSpeaker, Maximus etc

Steep:
There are principled of God that even the irreligious apply without knowing God so they don't need to know God before they apply his principle.

Lol. So are you now accepting good morals can exist and be practiced by irreligious and atheistic folks? Don't allow your fellow christians to hear this

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The flood was not an attempt to eliminate sin, the first coming of Jesus is an attempt to save the world from sin. The events after the second coming of Jesus Christ will put an end to sin.

What was the aim of the flood?
And since god is omniscient, he obviously knows those guys were gonna sin, but went ahead to create them, so he can drown 'em all.
What a good and loving father he is

Aemmyjah:
Lol
True Christianity was and is and will never be a State religion
This one you see today is Christendom and not Christianity
Besides, Christianity NEVER spread by conquest

Obviously you have never heard of the Crusades, the Huguenot conflicts, the Witch trials of Salem and Europe etc etc
Bro, Christianity is bloody. No doubt

Dtruthspeaker:
Yet you said you were S.U. and yet you do not know what is in the Bible. Since you did not want to know then, then you are not entitled to know now.

Why do you think I became an atheist? Its because I've checked all those things and found out they're all false and fake

Dtruthspeaker:
See an ex church goer who never read nor understood the Bible he carried up and down and chanted, yet you thought you were Christian whereas, you were an atheists in hiding as I have always said you atheists are!

If you had read the Bible you would have seen where God helped them and they won and when He cast them away and they were destroyed. How you did not understand this is just proof of how long you have been unwell.

You keep on dodging, bro. What is the latest intent of the good Lord towards Israel? Is it stick or twist?

Dtruthspeaker:
What is your business with God's plans after all you belong to satan? Like anyone tells their enemies their plans.

Well, telling me won't hurt anyone. After all, the I am the I am knows that I, the devil's own son, can't harm either you nor him

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"Judge" itself is a dicey word. I'll say you can't totally condemn, but to some extent you can guess by their fruits if a person or denomination practice true Christianity.

'Guess' is a dicey word too, don't you think?

Dtruthspeaker:
Why must you talk when you do not have any intelligent thing to say?

Well, sir, engaging you is always an exercise in futility, because you keep on changing posts, confusing yourself

MaxInDHouse:
This is your comment:



Please how is this a call for clarification?

What does the sentence 'What the fvck are you talking about ' mean?

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People who keep/follow/obey God's Word. It's not really our job or yours though so we might not do excellently well in the knowing.

Exactly. Every Christian, from JW to Cherubim, claims to be the real deal and claims the rest are pretenders. So you can't judge

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John 8:31
BBE Then Jesus said to the Jews who had faith in him, If you keep my word, then you are truly my disciples;

So how do you know a true Christian? I hope you know different denominations have different concepts of what a true Christian entails, irrespective of whats in your bible

LordReed:
That's because that phrase is not used. If anyone uses it I will ask them the same question, who is a "true atheist"?
There is nothing to study about atheism that can help you with that. Atheism asks only 1 question, do you believe in god(s), if your answer is yes then you are not an atheist, that is all. There's nothing to study about such a simple question and answer.

Usually when someone uses that kind of phrase they are preparing to gatekeep whatever they are talking about. Like you always seem to do.

At this point, I think max needs to up his haloperidol dosage. He keeps gaslighting himself

MaxInDHouse:
Oh that's LordReed. One of my ungrateful Bible students!

He has learned so much from me but he won't admit publicly. Whenever you're chatting with him he will continue asking thought provoking questions but after discovering that you've provided enough evidence regarding what you told him LordReed will end it all with his usual ~ Bwahahahahaha and smileys
Please try to follow his comments secretly while he's discussing with someone else, that's when you will realize that LordReed has gotten something from the discussion you had with him but he won't admit openly because he has lots of admirers here looking up to him as an intelligent person.
Most times i come across his comments with other religionists i praise JEHOVAH because even though LordReed will not give the glory to God yet through his comments misinformed churchgoers will know that they're missing something vital due to the false religions they're following!

Lol.
Youre a comedian

Aemmyjah:
And what kind of christian do Nigerians have?
True Christians or people who claim to follow bible yet don't know what they are doing?

Does it matter? China, Czech etc have lesser amounts of christians compared to Nigeria. Never mind whether they're true or false christians

MaxInDHouse:
Leave that for the OP to judge.
This is the hypocrisy i found in atheism, you guys often complain about bullying in religion but now someone asked a question and i expressed my opinion only for you to jump in as if you're his spokesperson.
Then where is the difference between you and those bullies in religion?

So asking you to clarify is now bullying? Are you for real?
By the way, don't you jump in to other peoples' debate, Mr. Max? Did anyone call you a bully?

Steep:
having more christians by name in Nigeria will not reduce the suffering rather do Nigerians accept God's ways of life?

Actually, Nigerians are even better religiously. Many more irreligious countries exist who are much better than Nigeria. Yet they didn't accept your god's ways

Dtruthspeaker:
Just like you father Satan you already know what God has Said, so you can not feign lack of knowledge.

Ah, the gaslighting begins in full force

Dtruthspeaker:
Satan's son, you already know that you are talking rubbish for you already know that God has changed Plans and has made a different move now! But as the evil that you are, you must always speak evilly.

Really, he changed plans? And intimated only his earthly scribe DTruthSpeaker? Interesting. So what's the details of his heavenly plans, sire?

Dtruthspeaker:
Sure! But now The Protector warned them that He Himself will destroy them when they mess up, is that difficult to understand?

Obviously you have never read the Bible therefore, you were not even a church goer. Which means you are a Muslim or so. So you attack us because you hate us and of course jealous of us!

Lol. Bro, I was an ex-christian. Precisely Pentecostal. Then also an ex-Scripture Union.
Then was an ex Christian Union back in school.
The Bible said Israel would be raped etc etc. But the problem is yall christians are confused. When Israel is raped, y'all tell us god said it. Then when they win a war, y'all tell us god is protecting them based on his promise. I'm not hoodwinked by such inconsistency. Only cretards are

Dtruthspeaker:
You people really never read the Bible else you would have seen that Moses spelt it all out very precisely and clearly all that shall happen to them which we have now seen did happened to them.

They were overrran and overcome by enemies as Moses Said.

They were taken into captivity as Moses Said,

They were nearly wiped out asoses Said.

Can you give us the relevant verses and the associated prophecies? Please no gaslighting