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Workch:
Why are you still committing the fallacy

Theists have no idea what fallacies are. Isn't that their bane?

MaxInDHouse:
What about your own religion ATHEISM?
Aren't you people also FANATICS?

I know you didn't complete kindergarten but he wrote 'christian sect' not religion.
By the way Workch you forgot these JW pests

Aemmyjah:
Where did I describe the bible as a scientific guide?

Who presented the fact that the Bible explained rain and shape of Earth, and went ahead to say the Bible is ahead of scientists?

Aemmyjah:
We were endowed with wisdom to explore our environment
Job did not give all the details about rain formation which you have failed to dispute

Every businessman can CHOOSE whatever he wants his secretary to write. So keep your grudge to yourself

Oh now we've moved from 'The Bible is a scientific guide' to 'they didn't give all the details' in a short space of time
Easy bro, you'll soon turn atheist at this speed

Aemmyjah:
Joshua who wrote that verse just presented what he saw from his angle. He did not know or record how the phenomenon could have taken place.
Today too, we sometimes see notice strange phenomenon regarding the physical universe and we call or invite scientists or people with knowledge regarding that field to explain how that could have happened. Joshua just wrote what he saw. There are many factors that could have taken place for that incident to happen

I thought y'all said the Bible was divinely inspired. What stops the good Lord from explaining to Joshua some basic geography, since he himself explained geography to some guys in the bible, like the guys that talked about 'rain formation' and 'earth shape'

Aemmyjah:
There were many things that people will have taught were impossible to do by humans but we now do so now
Humans are still learning about creation
We only know less than 1% about creation
Yet, mortal man thinks his small knowledge has made him wiser than the Creator himself

So we know 1% about creation and somehow, you the theist know 100% about it?
Theist Logic at its finest

Aemmyjah:
Read this verses with understanding and not like a fool
Were you ever taught figures of speech?
You weren't

Oh whoa. So we're now into figures of speech
So how did you know the verses it stated that the Earth was suspended weren't figures of speech
Theist Logic at its finest

Aemmyjah:
Mention one fulfilled prophecy in the Bible.
You don't know anything in the Bible
Go and read Darwin's nook

You're asking me, an atheist to mention a fulfilled prophesy in the Bible? You think I haven't checked and came up empty? Why do you think I'm an atheist? By the way, isn't it your job as a 'true christian' to show me the light, instead of sending me on wild goose chases

Buskynwa:
Bros tbh you mumu ooo
Do make u born pikin so d mumu no go too much for them

Imagine if MadMax was a woman and he conceived with Dliespeaker. The offspring would be a benchmark for mental retardation of the highest order

Aemmyjah:
You pointed that the bible is just fiction
And I gave you something to consider if it is fiction or not?
The Bible description of the Earth hanging and without visible support is fraudulent right?

It's hard to imagine a ball or anything hanging in space, how much more our planet Earth. How did Job know?
His contemporaries said the Earth was hanging in some creatures or on some oceans or something else. They believed the Earth had some rigid support. If the Great Aristotle had read Job words, he would have laugh at it as stupid and unreasonable. So the Bible is no mere fiction. You too should consider the evidence for yourself and not what the internet tells you or because it suits your beliefs

Awwwww. Poor you. Looks like I know the Bible verses better than you, bro

Aemmyjah:
The bible is not a science book
But what it says regarding scientific matters is always ahead of time?
We know that scientific theories changes from time to time. What was fact 500 years ago can become obsolete theory today.
The bible says something regarding the position of the Earth about 3500 years ago. It says that the Earth is hanging on nothing or having no visible support. That was not the common view and you know what the great aristotle taught regarding that. Only in Newton's day was is established that the Earth is hanging by means of gravitational forces. How did Job know?

Actually, it is the opposite we see in the Bible. Its filled with geographical gaffes

Psalm 104:5
He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever

The Earth obviously has no foundations

1 Samuel 2:8
“He raises the poor from the dust,
He lifts the needy from the ash heap
To make them sit with nobles,
And inherit a seat of honor;
For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s,
And He set the world on them
… and the earth has no pillars, kind sire
Obviously your geography is as tattered as your biology.
Prolly you were in the kingdom hall when they were teaching the nice stuff.
Apologies

paxonel:
see you next week

Thank you bro? Til then

Dtruthspeaker:
I did not bother writing Physics and I did not ask about the exploration of the moon.

Aha!
I knew something was amiss.
Dear Dliespeaker please take time out to read on the importance of moon exploration. Not just the moon but other planetary bodies. Might help a wee bit. And if had a B2 in biology, you should have an idea about evolution. But if you dubbed to get the B2, I understand

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you insult because you can not argue.

Only one physics because Lie and deceit too plenty.

That is why I don't say P.N Okeke here but Ababio C4 and modern biology A2.

I notice you didn't post your physics result but anyone that managed a B4 in physics shouldn't be asking about the importance of exploring the moon

Dtruthspeaker:
So when you change location eg from Benin to Warri, so from Warri you can learn about Benin's weather system and how Benin was formed and evolved?

Does this make sense?

I don't know. I aint the one that got F9 in all the science subjects and then decided to do law

Aemmyjah:
I completely disagree with you on your last words
Atheism has removed his senses and power of reasoning

They foolishly thought they could tackle from all angles when you mentioned about trust and medicine
I felt somehow but I knew Max was a smart guy
He knows where he's leading them to
At the end, it is the usual embarassment they will bring upon themselves

Lol

paxonel:
I didn't say the bible is evidence. I said the bible says something is evidence and that thing is faith
you can see faith everywhere.
Christianity is everywhere
but you are convince that faith is everywhere, atleast you have met Christians everywhere?
And coming to NL religion section is never a waste of time because you will surely see Christians there, more Christians who by far outnumbered atheists?

That's the evidence!

Because, if something is not real you will never have more people pushing into it for over 20 centuries now.
And all your efforts today trying to discredit a movement and it belief that has existed over 20 centuries ago will be like "chasing wild geese"
well!
Try and know it, it will be better

Lets try this logic…
Logic-according-to-Lord-Paxonel 101


I didn't say the Koran is evidence. I said the Koran says something is evidence and that thing is faith
you can see faith everywhere.
Islam is everywhere
but you are convince that faith is everywhere, atleast you have met Muslims everywhere?
And coming to NL religion section is never a waste of time because you will surely see Moslems there, more Moslems who by far outnumbered atheists?

That's the evidence!

Because, if something is not real you will never have more people pushing into it for over 20 centuries now.
And all your efforts today trying to discredit a movement and it belief that has existed over 20 centuries ago will be like.
There!
Hope you guys enjoyed today's class. See you next week

MaxInDHouse:
Communication deceit!
Telephone discovered ~ 1876
First moon landing ~ 1969

So tell me how come the benefits got here before moon landing!

I wanted to ignore this like I ignored your drivel about trusting physicians but something in me told me there may be other crassly ignorant folks like you roving the earth. So here goes…
1. Going to the Moon will provide scientists with information about new views of early Earth, how the Earth-Moon system and the solar system formed and evolved, and the role of asteroid impacts on the earth.
2. Also the Moon presents numerous exciting engineering challenges.
3. It is an excellent place to test technologies, flight capabilities, life support systems, and exploration techniques .
4. We will also learn how to best employ robots to support human tasks, explore remote locations, and gather information in potentially hazardous regions. Looking farther down the road, the Moon is also a great location for launching rockets
Etc etc

Abdulgaffar22:
The problem of the macroevolution of animal form is unsolved because neo-Darwinian theory has not incorporated the logic of development into its models (Transformation rules, T1 and T3 in Lewontin’s 1974 schema).

Crick challenged me with the statement that nothing can be said about evolution until we understand how organisms are put together. Why do we need to know, as Crick said, “how organisms are put together” to understand evolution ? If we think of A and B as representing animal taxa, their differences in form would constitute a macroevolutionary transformation. But these are the adult forms. They are constructed by developmental pathways, and it is those pathways which evolution must modify. Thus, Crick’s challenge to Dover – i.e., that Dover needed to know “how organisms are put together” – means that animal evolution lies analytically downstream of understanding the details of animal development. Putting development into a black box, as neoDarwinism did, puts evolution in there as well: not understood

Before I tackle you, where did u copy this junk from?

Dtruthspeaker:
Or it did not work but it was a case of a person getting better even when he did not take any medicine

People get better even without drugs. But in this case, there is a clinical trial meaning the volunteers actually took the drug.

Dtruthspeaker:
And we see that the doctors keep changing and changing their drugs like they are using them for experiment. Why does the first one not work eh? (Rhetoric)

Drugs are changed for different reasons. From poor clinical response to drug reactions. I don't wanna go further, but this is beyond and irrelevant to this topic

Dtruthspeaker:
Or no dosing at all which means the drug did not work.

Then you would blow grammar in the case where the person gets healed without taking the drug.



Trusting the physician means trusting his commandments.

No dosing means you didn't take the drugs. So how are you gonna be healed if you don't take the drugs. Whether you trust the physician or not is irrelevant if you don't take the pills
Check into a mental hospital and have a mental state evaluation. You're even fruitier than MadMax

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you are blowing grammar in the cases it did not work.

Facepalm
If only you have taken a few seconds to check what those means, you'll have cured yourself some ignorance.
Those two diagnoses happen in patients that have psychiatric illnesses. They complain of symptoms they don't have. These complaints may be knowingly or unknowingly.
So in this case, they take a doc's prescribed drugs and still complain of not getting better even though they don't have the symptoms.
I really have concerns about your mental state. Are you always this bleeped up in real life?

Dtruthspeaker:
And we see that many do not come back



Babies already trust.

What has your statement gotta do with trust? Comatose patients die because of raised intracranial pressure and not lack of trust on the physician.
Please how and where do babies trust? They are incapable of self awareness, never mind trusting

Aemmyjah:
We against the world
Premium churchgoers, every other religion, atheists, agnostics and the rest
Max is my brother as I always said. My beloved brother.
Also Janosky and Cornelboy

Well, mention yours. Here in this forum, you have none and you have several.
None that has unity of mind and hope as you. Do you even have hope? What is the basis of your hope?
You have several cos your alliance is to attack one unique group

In one sentence, you noted that I have no alliance and also i have several.
By the way, you just listed 75% of all the Nairaland fruitcakes up there. I'm sure MadMax is the leader of the Nairaland branch of JW, right

Workch:
that guy is hilarious, he doesn't know that double-blinded placebo is a step towards establishing the efficacy of a drug.

The physician and the patient won't know what they are taking, the scientists won't know the outcome. Nobody will know anything and it works.

Hes a dumb guy

Yep. Double blinded placebo is an important aspect of pharmacological clinical trials. Any drug we prescribe always go those. You can lose your license by prescribing drugs or vaccines that don't pass through those trials

Aemmyjah:
Lemme stamp this comment with a big BRAVO

… and his sidekick arrives just in time

triplechoice:
What of those who are receiving treatment while in coma ,how do they get to trust the physician they're not even aware of?

What of babies too? How does a baby know what it means to trust

Youre going far. What about psychotic patients that are physically restrained and on intravenous injections prescribed by the psychiatrist? Do they need to trust or abide by the doctors' regimen?
MadMax is at his finest this morning

MaxInDHouse:
Oya tell me the BENEFITS derived from going to the Moon!

Facepalm

MaxInDHouse:
Why not go against the prescription of the physician and see if the baby gets well?

Ọmọ you must BELIEVE (TRUST) the physician by applying his prescriptions (commandments) otherwise the drug will only kill your baby!

What do you mean 'going against the physician'. Unless you mean underdosing or overdosing, of which either way, you'll have problems. Trusting the physician isn't the same as trusting the drugs
You really have lost the plot bro. Its either you catch cruise in these mindless rebuttals or you truly are a nutcase

MaxInDHouse:
Don't mix things up now!

Prayer connotes Consultation just as you must consult the physician who will now prescribe the drugs and you must BELIEVE (TRUST) the physician otherwise you will never get the benefits of the drug!

… and if you take the prescribed meds from the physician, you'll get better whether you believe the drugs would work or not. Unless you're a hypochondriac or have Manchaussen's

MaxInDHouse:
You know nothing about SCIENCE!

You mentioned ANTIBIOTICS (MEDICINES) and said it works whether you believe or not but real SCIENTISTS will tell you that you MUST BELIEVE (TRUST) in medicines before it could work!

Manufacturing and prescribing medicine for a patient can't save the sick person unless the patient first BELIEVE (TRUST) in what you gave him/her that he/she could recover fast from his illness.

If the patient should BELIEVE (TRUST) in a fake drug it will never work just as your trust in false religions won't work too. So for anything to work first of all it must be ORIGINAL and the user must BELIEVE (TRUST) in the doctor's prescription.

So what is BELIEVE?
Believe is the act of trusting in someone or something that if you do exactly as you are told you will get the benefits. But when you fall into the wrong hands (false religions or fake doctors) your belief or trust will surely not save you because it has been MISPLACED.


May you have PEACE!

How can you say patients need to believe in antibiotics before it works on them? Do they control the bioavailability, pharmacokinetics or pharmacodynamics? Do you need to believe the food you eat would nourish your body before it does its jobs?
Even if its placebo effects, it has its limits.
How do you manage to keep a straight face when you type these bollocks you dump on Nairaland? Next thing Aemyjah would chime in and start defending you