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Maynman:
A pot of soup can be cooked by more than 20 people.
Then we need to ask, who created the pot? Who created the ingredients, who taught them how to cook? who created the fire they used?etc

… and who created the cook/s?

PoliteActivist:
Take your pick. As long as you accept that a pot of soup cannot cook itself by accident. That our reality, as we perceive it, does not work that way

Lets just assume its your favourite cook. How do we know its him/her/they/it that cooked it, and what was the ingredients

Thanksful:
How many of them can you name that didn't fail immediately after masturbating?

Lol. I have examples.

kingxsamz:
So what if you had an accident and had your legs amputated, would your legs grow back if you prayed?

Now that's a question theists don't answer. They usually dodge this

shortgun:
Everything written in that "old book" thousands of years ago is what your scientists are "discovering" today.
Just as it's written in the Bible "a fool says in his heart there's no God"

It's funny how you lots claim there's no God when you have limited knowledge about the world and how it works......you are yet to even explore 80% of the oceans for instance.
Do you draw conclusion based on limited knowledge about something?
A rational being will ponder over the numerous scientifically unexplainable events happening in the world and conclude that God exists!

Same way the Aztecs pondered and arrived at the conclusion that Huītzilōpōchtli is the owner of the skies and sends lightning. Now hundreds of years later, folks in Nigeria still think that stuff they can't understand was made by some gods.
Your education was a waste of time and money

Malocity:
I got healed from severe pains I had on my spinal cord. Without medicine or massage.

As a result of an accident I had. When it happened as we fell, I sat on the ground thereby causing an impact on my spinal cord.

With this Sir/Madam I can say that Miracles are REAL.

1. How long did the pains last?
2. Did have any problems standing or walking?
Hope you know the bone at the back isn't your spinal cord. Get your facts right

nans24:
Don't mind the confused depressed fellow. In his mind he thinks he is intelligent.

Funny thing with this mentally disturbed people who call themselves atheists or agnostics is you don't see them attacking traditionalists like the oba of benin who believes and worships a particular deity in his palace despite his education.

Is the oba stupid for believing that a spirit world exists and he must worship and serve a particular deity in that spirit world? Is he stupid in thinking that the deity he worships can perform certain miracles for him such as protect him from attacks or heal him from certain ailments? How about the rites and sacrifices that he and his priests perform, are they stupid in thinking that those rites appease a particular deity that he worships.

You won't see this mentally deranged atheist or agnostics attacking the oba for his beliefs or a juju man for believing in a spirit world with deities..make them try am naa...weda the spirit no go give them correct spiritual slap that will affect them and their generation...its people who identify themselves as followers of Christ they prefer to attack because they know God is love and he is patient and long-suffering towards sinners and unbelievers, so they open their mouth to talk anyhow about him. Let them continue in their delusion. Their grace period will soon end.

1. If juju does exist, many African countries wouldn't have been subdued and defeated by the whiteman who used only muskets(ancient guns). Despite the sheer number of those African armies and their witch doctors, the relatively fewer Whitemen invaded, killed and captured them, including the juju carvings. To those our ancestors those carvings were our gods and possessed great powers. To the white man, it was some good sculpture with nice designs. So those 'great and powerful' juju were carted away in dirty stinky cartons grin So much for powerful voodoo. Same scenario repeated itself in many African and African originated countries like Nigeria, South Africa, Haiti etc. Your Benin bronze head that was carved and revered by the ancient Edo Kingdom(revered til now to be the headquarters of witchcraft in Nigeria grin) were amongst artifacts stolen. This same Edo youre wanking yourself sore. Their God is useless
2. If actually juju exist, their owners would have been filthy rich. I mean all they have to do is teleport to CBN or many bank vaults, steal the money and get out. But nothing of such happens
3. James Randi, an ex-magician set up a challenge for any supernatural practitioner including pastors, shamans, psychics etc. Show us your power and cart away 1mil usd. Simple. Til he died, nobody showed up. Upon living in the US which is the hotbed of Pentecostal miracle workers, none dared come forward. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge
There was a similar challenge by a Nigerian atheist for 2m naira on Twitter but nobody showed up. Instead people were telling him to go to hinterlands. But its a challenge, he doesn't need to go anywhere. People go to shows like Nigeria got Talents etc and showcase what they got, the show doesn't go around looking for artistes or gymnasts. Even at that, the young man visited such hinterlands but came up empty. The problem about going to those juju priest shrines is that those venues are rigged out to perform the 'magic'
4. If you notice, with the ubiquity of cameras , yet no video exists of any pastor healing amputees. Nope. All you see are healed sickle cell, infertility etc, stuff we can't verify. Amputees are on the streets, with many of them in orthopedic hospitals in Igbobi, Enugu etc
5. If juju is valid, Africa would have won many sporting events. This world cup finals would have been played by African. But despite every juju they do, they end up not getting near the semi finals.
6. I have had 2 personal challenges with dudes here who claim to have supernatural powers. One said he heals the sick and a pastor, RoyalDiadems. Turns out he's a fake. He even threatened me with madness. I begged him to go ahead. Til now he disappeared and hasnt replied any of my prompts. Another is a supposed juju priest. I told him to make me mad or curse me. Same outcome, fake
So bro, no, I don't believe in those nonsense. But if you got proof, do let me know

shortgun:
Stop arguing about things you don't have complete knowledge of...... people will perceive you as being stupid.

Actually, you're the one sounding stupid, bro

shortgun:
Everything written in that "old book" thousands of years ago is what your scientists are "discovering" today.
Just as it's written in the Bible "a fool says in his heart there's no God"

It's funny how you lots claim there's no God when you have limited knowledge about the world and how it works......you are yet to even explore 80% of the oceans for instance.
Do you draw conclusion based on limited knowledge about something?
A rational being will ponder over the numerous scientifically unexplainable events happening in the world and conclude that God exists!

And lemme guess, you have successfully explored all the oceans and land and arrived at the conclusion that there's god? Wonderful

Lighthouse50:
Trash. JESUS Said do not give what is holy to dogs or give your precious pearl to swine. Who will show you evidence? When ungodly men see Godly men doing wonders, the defecate in their pants and are curious to know how. If you want to get more confused, go to medical doctors and ask the wonders they experience from true christians. Many miracles has reversed conditions doctors and demonic science called irreversible.

Trash. I'm a physician and haven't noticed any miracles. I don't know what people told you. What i have experienced is people praying for sick people and nothing happening. And the prayers are worse by this time during Sunday evenings. This is the time many hospitals are flooded with prayer warriors and they end up pissing the nurses with the visits

Tboy222:


Guy you are absolutely right, been masturbating since 2001 , no job, no wife, no degree, intense hatred from family members and at work, stagnancy, work like a cow, men it's crazy, I later found out on Joseph okechukwu the former nollywood actor turned producer YouTube page, that was when I knew that masturbation was the source of my woes,
It got so bad ieven accuse my mom of diverting my glory to my junior brother who is now a chartered accountant in the Netherlands men it is absolutely crazy I won't even lie, how can I get in touch with you.

Many rich and successful men and women masturbate. You're just lazy. Hustle up bro and stop blaming stuff for your poverty

Realbuzzing:
So since you left the habit
How have you been doing?

Lol. These theists are just funny. They absolutely have no use for logical reasoning

PoliteActivist:
Great! Just don't go a step further and state there is no God.
Problem is those who keep demanding conclusive proofs when there are no conclusive proofs in our reality. All we have are assumptions and circumstantial proofs - which leads right back to a designer. Things are too well orchestrated and too just right to have been chance!

Which particular 'designer'? There's at least 1000 of them

MaxInDHouse:
Can you remind me of the person who ordered APES to go out preaching or teaching?

So you can't preach or teach with confidence because nobody sent or ordered ATHEISM to do so, we know you can't preach as your gods are silver and gold, things that could be sold in the market, that's what makes you feel like talking:

Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not: They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not: They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat. They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. Psalms 115:4-8

That's why your Suprematist leaders are trying to hijack institutions like schools or government to impose their philosophy on people!

Okay. I wonder why I'm bothering to argue with you on logic and science

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing about you is how you failed to grasp that the word SCIENTISTS differs from ATHEISTS and that there are many SCIENTISTS who believe in CREATION.
So if ATHEISTS are trying to dominate that faculty with human philosophy it doesn't make all scientists athiests neither does it make them all advocates of evolution!

Even those christian scientists would tell you we evolved from apes. Ask them

Dtruthspeaker:
Go to the police station or court you would see how something like this happened and only one credible person saw the whole thing even though other people were present.

Something as eventful and traumatizing as a man dropping and dying on the street?
Okay sir. No wahala

Dtruthspeaker:
And that is what I am telling and proving to you. Speculation is not evidence nor is it Truth or even proof of Truth exactly as me conjuring and speculation all kinds of connections just to stick you with a charge of murder.

Speculation and conjectures is inadmissible evidence.

Alright sir

Dtruthspeaker:
Even in this obvious one Dr, you still chose to lie? Who has not bought a fridge, Tv, car, generator that did not see One manufacturers manual in it where it contains one? Do you find a Honda's manual in a Toyota Camry or Samsung manual in a Nokia?

Dr no dey show say you be fool!

Boy, even in this everyday things atheists are blind and do not see, No Wonder.

Dont be a fool
Many phones don't even come with manuals.
And I believed you are a lawyer, yet you don't know what a third party is? Some small companies make manuals for bigger ones. These days big companies outsource some jobs

MaxInDHouse:
This is the best phrase you've typed so far!

So each person chooses whatever makes them feel a sense of satisfaction, you detests the Bible because you don't want any restraint while others chose God's word because they want to relate peacefully with their neighbours!

If you choose to be an APE with the opinion that your ancestors evolved from nowhere it's OK, others may love to be humans with the opinion that they are descendants of Adam and Eve!

Am I forcing you to believe evolution? Have you ever seen atheists carrying tracts and harassing people on the roads? Or seen us waking up neighbors by 4am in the pretense of prayers? Or spraying saliva on fellow passengers in the guise of preaching? Have you seen any atheists wearing t-shirts bearing 'Atheism is the Way' or 'Your god is trash'. No we don't. You won't even know we're atheists til you interact with us, and even at that, some of us don't want to identify as one because of harassments, persecutions or assaults
So stay on your lane, we'll stay on ours

MaxInDHouse:
APES made it but humans are using it right?

Your brain need a reset!

The scientists that made it recognize we're apes and aren't arguing about it. Thats my point
You're the one that needs a brain transplant

MaxInDHouse:
There names please!

H. Erectus, H.Habilis

Aemmyjah:
The title of this thread is actually misleading
Science has not removed imperfection, old age and suffering
Many people are dying and in poverty
Science has made weapons that can destroy all living forms within seconds
Our very existence is at risk
Science now predict doom for all mankind
Yet, someone think that science is the answer to our problems

Very misleading post

At this point, you need to see a psychiatrist. Seriously, you have lost it

Aemmyjah:
You are still speculating
You're free to keep speculating as long as your stupid speculations won't acknowledge a Creator
The Bible says that some people thought their righteousness were higher than God's
People today feel they are wiser than God
You're holding a grudge with him

I'm way ahead of you
I believe or know or accept convincingly that life and the universe has a designer or Creator or God
Until you come to your senses, I'm a million miles ahead of you so keep speculating

Ok, keep on with your belief

Aemmyjah:
So we that have intelligent means of communication in form of language have cords perfectly linked to our brain. Did that linkage or connection happen by chance or as a result of design
Besides, I don't agree with your claims about chimps unless you have proof. I mean genuine proofs and not mere speculation

There's no intelligent design there. There's not much difference between us and those animals.
Here, read this
https://www.sciencealert.com/monkeys-brains-not-their-vocal-cords-stop-them-from-speaking-like-us
I know you'll be scared of reading it so I took ss

Aemmyjah:
Lol
You can quote from the scriptures but you can't quote from the Epic
It's like you have problems with your line of reasoning
The book you condemned as myth is what you say it was actually copied from another book
You think like an Ape

You want me to copy paste from the Epic to prove my point? Bros, if you don't want to check out the Epic of Gilgamesh or other ancient books, its your loss. Continue believing whatever rocks your boat

Aemmyjah:
Stupid liar
God never said anyone should eat dung
I proved it to you from those same verses which you read like a child
You're holding grudge with your Maker
Continue

Lol. For the last time, I cannot begrudge someone that I assume doesn't exist. Can you begrudge Thor?

Aemmyjah:
Read Daniel
Read Matthew 24
Read Luke 21
Read Revelation 6

Again, as a reminder, apes don't comprehend revelation or prophecies

1. But apes made the phone and internet you're using to type trash

2. I took my precious time to go through Matthew 24(even though I know you never go through my links for fear of the truth)

soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Unknown
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Can you tell me where the prophecy is here? Wars and conflicts are normal human occurrences. There are many wars being fought currently as we speak, apart from the Russia Ukraine war. And wars didn’t start today. Worse wars have been fought years ago and I'm sure the Christians then assumed it was the end of time

Aemmyjah:
Parrot and chimps
Which of them was created and which evolved?
Do you know of any languageless group of humans?

None was created
Language simply means communication. There are means animals communicate. Some by vocal means, signs, actions etc

Aemmyjah:
Which fossils of cavemen?!
I don't disagree with that or dinos just as I don't disagree with that of mammoth
The lie is that life and living forms came as a product of evolution. I think differently as they can't show interlinking classes to prove or any of the Apeman they lie about with their fake, reconstructed pictures

Below are the different parts of ancient humans which we evolved from
As you can see, these mandibles, calvaria etc are not from modern man, and are definitely not chimps. So evidence of cavemen or prehistoric men abound
Again, evolution didn’t tell us how live came to be. Are you dyslexic or just lack simple comprehension skills. This is the fourth time in this thread I'm saying it

Aemmyjah:
He himself said he's an Ape and of Ape family
He does not want to accept common reasoning and sense
He wants to be wise and accept SPECULATION that Man came from animals. Parrots can talk but their speech is not intelligent. Chimpanzee has every organs just as humans that help us speak but they cannot do that. How will they explain that? Besides, there is no record of any languageless group or tribe of people that ever lived to prove their evil theory

Which common reasoning? That I came from dust? Or women came from a single rib? Or donkeys now rap music? Just like Shrek. If the Bible is true, I might as well believe the donkey in shrek actually talks, or the snake in Lion King is real

Dtruthspeaker:
That is even why the Bible is True. There can only be one source. Exactly as a car, phone, fridge tv etc has only one manufacturers manual. And we go to that one manual for everything.

Any other source must come under and after that single source which is what is already proven.

All other valid reports acknowledge the Truth that they are less than the Bible and they rather point to the Bible.

This definitely tells us the Bible's report is True.

You keep displaying crass ignorance or lack of logic anytime you open your mouth. Who says gadgets have only one manual? Some have different manuals. Some manuals you can download online, some manuals are made by third parties etc
By the way, how does this relate to creation?
Which valid report points to the Bible?

Aemmyjah:
I wonder ooo
I was in cart witnessing yesterday and a guy I once preached to approach
He was arguing about conscience
That animals also have conscience, they have morals and a sense of right and wrong. He keeps saying all I said was wrong
I asked him what conscience is,he says he does not know
I asked him if man has morals, he says he cannot conclude on that

Anything I say is wrong and when I ask for his opinion,he does not know or he is still doing research. How will you say I'm wrong when you don't know the basis of our discussion
Same guy said he's praying to God for Revelation. He does not know Bible but he wants God to reveal things to him
Tomorrow, we'll meet to discuss about the soul and spirit. I was really happy doing research overnight but I was anxious too. How will I start the conversation? He's actually a very very indecisive person

Yes, animals have morals, intelligence and conscience. They're not all about kill and eat. And morals is relative. What is morally right years ago may not be today. What is moral in Islam may be immoral in Christianity. What is moral is Nigeria, may not be in Sweden. What's moral for me as a kid, may not be as an adult. Morality also change as we advance