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MaxInDHouse:
Either of the two!

I hope I live up to a ripe old age

God2man2again:
@ Op, Kindly make research on YouTube about a message by Dr .D.K OLUKOYA when MFM Wuye Abuja was dedicated. Meticulously search for The Title of this message
DR.D K OLUKOYA||GENERATIONAL FAMILY DELIVERANCE (FIGHT FOR YOUR FAMILY)|| MFM WUYE ABUJA CHURCH.
This message was posted on YouTube 7 months ago.

Nevertheless Curse came as a result of iniquity, God started it in Genesis 3:14.
Then it went down to so many generations, it doesn't matter whether you are black or white.

What is a curse?
According to Google, it is a solemn utterance intended to invoke a supernatural power to inflict harm or punishment on someone or something.

Synonyms are malediction, evil eye, imprecation, voodoo, hoodoo, anthema, excommunication, hex, cess, jinx, malison, ban.
Blasphemous word.
Strong language
Swear word
Oath and so on.

Also, apart from God Curses are also invoked as a result.of man's inhumanity to man.
The cruel behavior that people show to each other.

Recently on Facebook, a lady called Deborah or so scammed a woman of a large sum of money and the woman put a curse on her if she doesn't return the money, the lady eventually returned the money and became born again, she is born again now. She is now an evangelist.

If you think I am deceiving you, kindly go to Facebook search and search for Evang Deborah, stroll down, you will see her real story her Facebook page.

In the Bible,(read Genesis chapter 49)
Reuben slept with his father's wife and his father cursed him,
Genesis 49:4" Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father's bed; then thou defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch"

The curse of thou shalt not excel is on Reuben.

The problem with Africa is that the root or the foundation of African is riddled with serious idolatry.
Too bad, God hates idolatry with perfect hatred. God is a jealous God.
Thou shalt have no other God before me.

Africans worshipped many Idols, the white men have their own issues with idols.

Mathematics is needed now.

Are you a Mathematician? Please come!

There is something called family tree.

For you to be born, you need 2 parents, 4 grand parents, 8 great grand parents, 16 people- 2nd great grandparents,
32 -3rd great grandparents,
64- 4th great grandparents
128- 5th great grandparents
256- 6th great grandparents
512 people- 7th great grandparents

For you to be born today over the last 10 generations, you have 4,000 ancestors.

You may say, it doesn't matter, it is a lie but come to think of it, you go to a Doctor and you a diagnosed with a particular ailment, the Doctor would ask, if it has happened to any member of your family.
Why is the Doctor asking?

Diseases are hereditary. They are in the blood line, they are in the family tree.

Once someone has done something evil that deserved a curse, it will affect the family tree.

That's why MFM is the only Church that can pray surgical prayers to stop these curses, however, it is not automatic, it takes time. Other churches can also do it but you can be sure MFM has it.

God decides the time to remove the curse but you must keep praying because you never know what is going on your family tree.

So many examples of curses on humanities.

Thou shalt not excel.
Thou shalt not marry.
Thou shalt not live long.
Thou shalt not graduate.
Thou shalt not be well.
Thou shalt not be rich.
Thou shalt not be educated.
Thou shalt not have children.
Thou shalt not go Scot free.
Thou shalt not travel out of Nigeria.
Thou shalt not be born again.
Thou shalt not believe in God.
Thou shalt serve idols.
Thou shalt not marry a good wife or husband.

If you don't break these curses, there will be problem.

If the curse can affect the family, the family is a nucleus of the nation, it will affect the nation.
The nation will not make it. Nigeria is a case study.

Humanities need help.

You can decide to be somebody that will rewrite or change your family history or somebody that will follow the evil pattern of your family history.

If you go down.many will go down but if you decide to be an inspiration to this generation,.many will be inspired to rise up.

May God help us all in Jesus. Mighty name. Amen.

After taking my time to read through your unabashed advertisement and promotion of MFM(I hope that nigga pays you well), I have these questions
1. Somehow, in your haste to promote your favorite church, you still didn't talk about the OP's question which simply asked why 'generational curses' are not exhibited in the Western World or rather still, the rest of the world(outside Africa)
2. About the Deborah story, did it occur to you that she could have returned the money because of guilty conscience or fear of the curse, and not the supposed action of the 'curse'?
3. We ask patients about the hereditary cause of some diseases like hypertension and diabetes because they are present in genes, and these genes code proteins which interfere with body processes. These have been backed by science. Has your 'generational curse' been mapped in human genes? No. So please don't involve science when you wanna talk trash.
Thank You sir

Dtruthspeaker:
Why did you dodge my question and try to switch the burden of proof? I thought you were trying to be peaceful and apologetic. So your intention to apologize was fake!

Well, it is crazy of me to expect that you were decent.

Its crazy of me to expect hygiene from a smelly anus

MightySparrow:
Just read through the Bible yourself. See instances of pronouncement of curses like on Reuben Jericho, Esau etc. In general read about the life of Israel as it meanders through history.

Come to Yorubaland a d see the effects of Alaafin Abiodun Aole upon Yorubaland.

I need evidence. All those instances you gave me are all hearsays and anecdotes

MaxInDHouse:
Great!
So what hope do you in person have regarding the future?

Hope for the future? You mean when I'm dead or alive?

MaxInDHouse:
Wow!
You're sound today?
I hope you will always be like this, asking from the heart.

Those fetuses and babies were destroyed by the order from my God when Jesus of Nazareth hasn't established the preaching and teaching campaign for God's Kingdom.

So from the day Jesus commissioned that work all worshipers of my God mustn't join forces to raise weapons again because we're now hoping to see them become like us preachers and teachers of God's word with the prospect of living forever!

Please what keeps you going happily i will like to know why you've not committed suicide despite the world condition!

Same reason millions of atheists haven't been committing suicide, bro

MaxInDHouse:
The difference is i'm one of the preachers of the GOOD NEWS about God's Kingdom helping people around me to be hopeful of a better promising future for mankind, many have become peace lovers and well meaning citizens due to this fine WORKS!

So until i expire i've got a job to do that's keeping me busy and joyous as i'm seeing many responding positively to the Good News of God's Kingdom.

Please what about you?
What keeps you going happily?
Would you mind sharing it with me

So how do you know the fetuses wasted by your god aren't going to be 'preaching good news'?

Ken4Christ:
Daniel 12:10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and NONE OF THE WICKED SHALL UNDERSTAND; but the wise shall understand

This verse simply says the wicked doesn't understand. And the wise does understand. Now what exactly are they understanding?

Ken4Christ:
Yes, I still maintain my claim. They are no longer under God's cover. But sometimes, mercy prevails over judgment.

Yeah, good old mercy and grace . The same mercy christians claim atheists enjoy when we get good health, prosperity etc. But when we encounter calamity, they tell us its the wrath of god. Y'all are a bunch of clowns. You n your inept god

Ken4Christ:
I am not speaking from both sides. It's the truth. The present day Jews are not saved because they rejected Christ. So, God's attention is presently on the church of the Gentiles.

The mercy the Jews receives occasionally is for Abraham's sake.

So how do we know when the lord shows them grace occasionally? There's no indicator anywhere

Ken4Christ:
Yes, his attention is currently on the church of the Gentiles. But occasionally, he shows them mercy for Abraham's sake. If you don't like that, go and hug a transformer.

Yeah, I am Abraham Lincoln. If you don't believe that, hug Kainji Dam

MaxInDHouse:
Whether you're a baby, youth or old man you will die in this system of things so what is the difference?

Cool. Since we'll all die anyways why don't you enter a railway track and die there? After all, what's the difference?

MaxInDHouse:
OK you believe in history, who is the first human to build a ship?

I don't know. Earliest history was that of Pesse canoe. Earliest people thought to build a ship were Egyptians or Phoenicians.
What next

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH is doing it everyday but only the wise can SEE it!

Yeah, its called the invisible miracles

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word all humans are like waste products after Adam so only those that align themselves with His righteousness will be preserved when He is ready to cleanse the earth.
So whether babies or old man they're all waste products so far they don't want to live by God's standard!

I now understand why you guys r@pe children and hide it. Making more sense. I'm learning about JWs everyday

MaxInDHouse:
Do atheists believe in history or you're just in for fruitless arguments against history?

Ọmọ you've got to prove to me that you believe in history before i can take anything you say or post serious o!

Who doesn't believe in legit and correct history? Even if I don't believe it, it doesn't change the facts that such historical events happened.
So what do you want to tell me?

MaxInDHouse:
They are WASTE PRODUCTS as long as there won't be parents to raise them to responsible adults.

Youre calling babies waste products? I wish you were wasted as a fetus. Would have saved us hours of cretarded arguments here

MaxInDHouse:
Says you!

I have posted evidence here on 2 occasions. One of them was with an argument with your fellow cretard Ammyjah and I even showed him the copied sections. He didn't reply me. So please ask him to show you the thread so you can cure your ignorance

MaxInDHouse:
Did the Bible mention any other virgin birth apart from Jesus of Nazareth? NO!
Muslims can't talk without mentioning Hebrew prophets who are all Israelites as in writers of the Bible books so you're misconstrueing the whole thing. But it's understandable after all you're an atheist descendant of APES so i just have to manage you with that thing in your skull!

Get a grip bro!
I said the bible copied many concepts like virgin birth, great flood, Egypt maltreating israel and the red sea etc

MaxInDHouse:
No one told you He is all loving because He hates evil deeds so He won't tolerate it for the love of His faithful, loyal and obedient citizens just like any reasonable King will always do!

I'm talking about him murdering children ,babies and unborn fetuses. What evil deed did they commit?

MaxInDHouse:
Go and ask them to tell you the names of the prophets mentioned in their book perhaps you will know why they MUST acknowledge the Bible!

If quoting your prophets is an acknowledgement, then the bible acknowledged the Epic of Gilgamesh and other ancient scrolls severally, since it copied concepts like the virgin birth etc from them

MaxInDHouse:
What do you expect a King who is all powerful to do with miscreants that will not allow him do what is going to benefit his obedient and loyal citizens?

So he's not an all loving god, then

MaxInDHouse:
Don't forget that the Qu'ran acknowledged the Bible first!
So that means students of the Qu'ran are also studying the Bible not your hummurabi code!

You have started your drifting.
Where did they acknowledge the bible?

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa what you supposed to ask is
"if the one that says 'in the beginning' has more evidence, why won't you believe him?"

Whats his evidence?

MaxInDHouse:
Good!

So if you don't care what they believe yet they are SCIENTISTS then why disturb yourself with those who never cared about your science and studies?

Someone created a post and I along with you are responding to his post. So how am I disturbing myself about cretards like you? Have I told you to stop being a JW? Isnt it you guys that would use any opportunity to force feed us your JW narrative?
You well so?

MaxInDHouse:
Remember what i told you about LordReed.

He will jump into meaningful discussions just to criticize the Bible but after knocking him out intelligently he will go and use what you taught him elsewhere!

Today he has learned another lesson:

No law erupt from the ideas of man is credible enough in the eyes of his fellow man that's why most nations are always reviewing their constitution but then they will go back to the Bible to borrow a leaf!

Let him explain why his Hummurabi code died and was buried while the Bible keeps gaining influence throughout the inhabited earth!

Same way the qoran is gaining influence, even much more influence as its getting more spread the bible. That doesn't validate either religion

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH has proved to be what He calls Himself "He causes to become" how do you convince right thinking humans that these are humans like us?

Imagine getting to a gigantic building and while you're all gazing with amazement different individuals are coming up to explain how this building came to be, they're all talking but they can't say anything about the owner or architect and then one came forward and say:

"in the beginning"

Do you think any sane human should continue listening to those guessing?

And what if the one that says 'in the beginning' has no proof that he was actually in the beginning, would you believe him?

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't get the import of that phrase then it simply means something is wrong with you because that phrase is giving you a starting point where you can begin to make sense out of everything you can see but if you don't want to reason with the phrase you will forever continue to argue with your neighbours where there is nothing to make you come to any agreement. That's what is happening to atheists today!

Bro, scientists can believe whatever they want, though more than half of them are atheists. And I won't go around convincing them

Ken4Christ:
God in his infinite mercy still gives them divine backing occasionally because of the covenant he made with Abraham. But he is not fully committed to them in this dispensation until he is done with this church age.

Lol. Its either you guys think we are stupid or daft. First you said god isn't interested in them since they rejected him then the next sentence you say he shows 'infinite mercy
I insist christians are clowns
Lol

Ken4Christ:
You are not a student of the Bible.

God is only committed to his covenant with the Jews when they keep the ways. He personally hand them over to destruction whenever they violate the law given to them.

To make things worse, they rejected the Messiah God sent to them.

So, they are not under divine cover after the resurrection of Christ. This explains why they are easily vulnerable to attack.

But he will redeem them in the future after the reign of the anti Christ and judge all the nations that came against them.

But its guys like you that said why israel is currently prevailing over its neighboring enemies is because god is with them. Why talk from both sides of your mouth?

LordReed:
LoLz! Did you even read any of the verses you quoted cos they don't match what you are saying.

He pulls out random bible verses that has no connotations to his points. I have pointed that out to him severally but either he doesn't care or he's a confirmed fruitcake.

MaxInDHouse:
Go and convince all scientists that the phrase "in the beginning" is a lie so there was never a beginning!

'in the beginning' is just a phrase. Why would someone say a meaningless phrase is a lie. Not everyone is on antipsychotics like you, sir