Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:32am On Dec 18, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: You cannot debate with me because your assertions do not reach nor pass The Laws and Tests of Truth!
Speculation and conjecture is not Evidence not to talk of it being admissible evidence.
Imagine me speculating and conjuring all kinds of connections that you the one who killed Abacha because you are a doctor, is that acceptable? Would you not tell me to prove beyond reasonable doubt and if I fail you would sue me? You just veered off tangent. We're talking about speculations on how we got to this earth. There are many theories. Evolution is a means of explaining how there's diversity in life. Evolution is not a religion. Neither is it a law. Its just a scientific tool, like gravity etc. I have said it several times but you and Aemyjah somehow twist my words. Science is using experiments to determine how we got here. None of us were here before and so no reliable data. Your story book aka Bible tells a story that has so many holes and outright lies that its not accepted. If you want me to expound on the lies and contradictions, do tell me. They are so many, but I'll concentrate on those ones bothering on creation alone and leave the rest of the lies. Do you now get it? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:24am On Dec 18, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: How many times have you been in the market and a bike knocked down someone but only one person saw the event and the rest used the evidence of the circumstances to reasonably agree with the seer that what he saw was True?
When the police came did they not point out that only one particular person saw "the whole thing"?
You really do not have any valid thing to say you are just seeking opportunity to abuse and insult me because I destroy your Lies. No sire. I have seen no such events. If you have, please do share details |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Atheists And The People Of The World Attack Christians! by jaephoenix(m): 9:57am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: We do! That is why we ask him "what is the problem?" Which means he is given an opportunity to present his case in return that he shall get a just and fair trial which lands on a right judgement based on Truth and reasonability.
Do you have an open mind?
The word "my stand" already suggests a closed mind, so as you asked, " how does anyone reason with a person who has a closed mind?
No one can but after this, we all have the matter of Law which everyone is supposed to respect which says that 'it is his right to hold a stand". Thus, in the end everyone is supposed live peacefully in their respective stands.
But atheists always invade the Christian land.
Religion means "a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion."
Thus, everyone has a right to present their attempt of explaining the world around us which of course is subject to reasonable and practical query to see who has the best and most Truthful presentation.
And we see that this pope who accepted evolution is one who has departed from the Christian principles, therefore, he speaks for himself but not for Christians.
As it is impossible for typhoid fever to change into a lion so is evolution a lie. The evolution proponents are just using the Truth to present their Lie, because they see and know that people are generally lazy and laid back that when they immediately see A Truth in a presentation, they think therefore that the whole presentation is True. Whereas a Lie or 2 may have been planted in it. But since they will not check it, then they miss it.
I will and must check out every presentation to see if the whole is True!
"A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies". Alfred Lord Tennyson
Anyway, this is not the topic of discussion. 1. You don't have an open mind. You're stuck in your rut and can't see past your your religion tinted glasses 2. Typhoid fever is not a bacteria. Your ignorance of anything scientific or logical is again, very legendary |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:44am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: He himself said he's an Ape and of Ape family He does not want to accept common reasoning and sense He wants to be wise and accept SPECULATION that Man came from animals. Parrots can talk but their speech is not intelligent. Chimpanzee has every organs just as humans that help us speak but they cannot do that. How will they explain that? Besides, there is no record of any languageless group or tribe of people that ever lived to prove their evil theory Lol. Animals have vocal and non-vocal means of communication. Chimps have vocal cords too which is poorly linked to their brain |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:38am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: Nature sides with Truth
And nature has already shown us that animals do not give birth to humans.
So this is just a case of fallacy by using the Truth we know to lie and cover things we do not see. I can't even debate with you. Your ignorance of science and scientific methods is amazing and legendary  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:37am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Well, there are no secular source outside the bible Apart for pictural illustration that scientists lie to us to make us believe evolution, can you give us evidence our the first humans or the Apeman we see
Which one makes sense? We came from a parent stock (humans) or from animals? I may not have secular source will not make me think they never existed. Even if there is, you will not accept as long as anything about them were mentioned in the Bible, the Koran mention them but you don't accept religious book so the basis of your question requires no answer Scientists lie to us?  Cool. So where did the fossils of the dinos and cave men come from? Oh I forgot MadMax(or you, I can't remember ) said his sculptor made those fossils. Wonderful revelations  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:34am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Spiderman is a comic character about a fictional person I've not seen such book or read it so I won't speculate much. The author acknowledge it as a comic
Those who read the Bible says everything in it is inspired of God. The most convincing evidence of the Bible as God's word is the prophecies. Many have been fulfilled, some are being fulfill today and some are yet to be fulfilled. What is predicted today was written about 2000 years ago? Stupid Atheist who say the Bible is myth and when they see these prophecies, they say that the writer deliberately wrote that only after they have been fulfilled and they start to argue the dates of many writings. Is all that accusations making sense over a mythical book? I'm sure you've not seen the prophecies. Did you know that the Bible, about 2600 years ago foretold the fall of babylon including the name of its conquerer and how he will conquer, the rise and fall of medopersia, the rise and fall of Greece, the rise and fall of Rome. It did not say Rome will fall but that it will disintegrate and one of it's smallest and insignificant empire will defeat three bigger empires to become world empire (Great Britain) and that it will not stand solely as a world empire but with another nation (USA) which we call the Anglo-american empire. Secular history says that Great Britain was small but defeated Netherlands, Spain and France to become world power, only confirming what Bible said The Bible mentions how Anglo-american empire will fall, world conditions during the time and the attitude of people today. What the Bible says will shock you but like your fellow Atheists, you won't believe cos you're suffering from blindness of heart and mind. If it were Nostradamus or someone else, you'll have been awed and review his book over and over again Can we see the prophecies, please?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:32am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Bwahahahahaha Schooling me? With FACTS or SPECULATIONS? Show me where God asked anyone to eat dung I showed you verses. Also showed you your yhwh hardened the poor old Pharaoh's heart, so he can kill more of the Egyptians  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:30am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: You're free to run as a crybaby like your agnostic friend did Who brought up the issue that earth was flat? You've seen your shame and foolishness. You try to support the Quran and Epic. What has an atheist got to do with such books! They reject ALL religious book. Crybaby,go and eat breakfast and sleep
Who is wrong mentioning that the Earth was flat? You! That there may have been books older than the Bible does not overrule the authenticity of the Bible You lie too much Go and sleep
I know the earth is round or circular or geoid or spherical or elliptical or whatever term you like. The Bible did not say it was hemisphere or a cone or rhombus. You're under great torment. When you want to argue, it's not bad but when you see sincere Bible students, just respect yourself. Mr Apeman who is still speculating about how he came to be. Why should you trust speculations? I knew you didn't bother to click any of those links because you're scared of the truth  Lemme help you. If you did read, you'll find out specifically what the Bible copied from the Epic. So does that still make your Bible divinely inspired?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:27am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: That is even why the Bible is True. There can only be one source. Exactly as a car, phone, fridge tv etc has only one manufacturers manual. And we go to that one manual for everything.
Any other source must come under and after that single source which is what is already proven.
All other valid reports acknowledge the Truth that they are less than the Bible and they rather point to the Bible.
This definitely tells us the Bible's report is True. I see you have a severe case of dissonance. Let me help you out. Someone fell from a skyscraper and was mangled on the street below. The street had a crowd of people but somehow only one person saw the dead person. Would you believe it? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Atheists And The People Of The World Attack Christians! by jaephoenix(m): 9:19am On Dec 17, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Was having a conversation with Jaephoenix He acknowledged this evening that 'we are still speculating how man came to be'
The keyword there for me is 'speculating' If they are still speculating, how is their evolution theory a fact?! Why are they abusing someone that does not agree he's an ape? What's the basis of speculations? What if all the speculations are later proved wrong just as it indeed is wrong from foundation?
I give my own fact that someone is responsible for the universe and life. That is logical and reasonable and backed up by the Bible. You say I'm wrong that ORGANIC EVOLUTION is fact but you're still speculating. Low key madness is worrying all these people. They just keep selecting speculations so they won't acknowledge a creator or feel accountable to him to pursue selfish desires Obviously you don't even understand evolution. Evolution does not explain how life came on earth. It only explains how life diversified. Do you understand? And to think you claim to be a biologist! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:31pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Old Apeman was holding grudge with his Maker He lied, very terrible lie that God said his people should eat dung I exposed his lie and he's not talking again He has seen his foolishness and he won't acknowledge it He quoted Ezekiel and I Kings. He thinks the Bible is for ape minded people How can I begrudge an invisible being? I don't have a mental issue bro I have been schooling you on your Bible here, so Park well |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:29pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Lol Comparing spiderman comic with the Bible
You're suffering from a disease called My'brain'is'very'faulty'diosis Both are mythical creations backed by fictional books with great followership |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:28pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Our common ancestor is Adam and Eve We did not come from apes. Science proves that especially when it comes to reproduction. You have sex with like person and give birth with like person. Have you seen a woman in your hospital give birth to another kind of animal entirely?
It makes sense to believe that we come from a human parents than we are from random, unintelligent evolution of animals Only a fool will say all life form including humans simply began from a bacteria. You're free to speculate but don't force your stupid speculations on me Can you quote a source that says we came from Adam and Eve(outside your storybook)? I mean just one source? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:27pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Oga I'm grateful for science and technology With science, I can do things faster and more efficiently I can call I can get info without going to a library The clothes i wear is due to help from science. Science affect our everyday life
I don't and will never agree that science is the answer to man's problem or it defeats God or is making the world safer and better. I'm not an ape and don't reason like one. My brain is in my head not my pocket. We examine things from all angles Bro I never said science is the solution to man's problems. It has solved some of man's problems . It may have contributed to its problem in the process of solving problems. And its trying to rectify those problems. Can you tell me one problem your yhwh has solved? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:23pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: 1. Your illustrations is null as it is very unfitting. Try and learn how to illustrate things. Lemme you help you. The creation of the universe may have taken place millions or billions years ago. When was the epic written? When was the Bible written? Which one is more detailed and does not contradict itself and also specific in giving names of specific people, places and dates? These questions are not for apes but intelligent humans? Have you even considered the Epic, interacting with you is now boring like talking to a foolish person. You're very picky in disputing the Bible as you don't even have sense. According to your illustration, did the Genesis writer agree with what the Epic says
2. That the earth is circular as I show you according to the Bible or that the earth is flat as you said? 1. Do you want us to discuss about the Bible contradictions and falsehood? That's a whole new thread, bro!  But if you insist, I'll do that By the way, the Epic was written way before the Bible. The Epic of Gilgamesh pre-dates the bible by around a thousand years. Meaning it was written down a thousand years before even the first verse of the bible was ever written down. https://medium.com/@ruthmartin_67587/genesis-1-11-and-the-epic-of-gilgamesh-f6c80146c599 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_GilgameshFrom the above you can deduce the copied portions of the Epic 2. I'm done with this circle/sphere/geoid argument. Since you said your Bible is scientific, then it should get its knowledge right. And what's more, its divine. So it shouldn't be wrong about anything |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:15pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Bwahahahahaha You are still speculating? Then why were you dogmatic on your SPECULATIONS and call it fact? Why did you tackle others who did not agree with your SPECULATIONS
Well, you're free to speculate till you expire but lemme give you concrete fact as to how men came to be. Read Revelation 4:11 and Nehemiah 9:6
When did I say Quran is scam? Pls don't lie against me I've not read it before I don't know how to read it It's been years since I saw one What do you even know about the Quran Now, you've gone ATHEISM to attacking a religious book by using another religious book as reference. Do you now see that the wisest Atheists is as foolish as a goat suffering from madness? Hes still quoting his storybook. Just like someone arguing Spiderman is real and goes ahead to quote Marvel comic written by Stan Lee. Lol  You may not say Islam is a scam but you have insinuated several times when you say your organization is the only true one  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:12pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: During experiments back in my school days we do BUY any animal and after killing it use it's body for EXPERIMENT. Can you legally buy a human and kill for experiment?
We kill, buy, sell and eat meet LEGALLY, can you think of such anywhere?
We use animal skin for furnitures and shoes, please can you think of such about human skin?
We take over any conducive environment and drive away animals anytime, anywhere and any moment we find such place, can animals do the same for man?
I can go on and on my friend, that's why the Bible said:
Then God said: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth" Genesis 1:26
Ọmọ SCIENTISTS have agreed that's why they can't change what God has spoken!  Lol. Youre indeed Mad Max  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:11pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Evolution has not accurate fact. It is not proven as FACT according to scientific method
Why the Bible is actually different is three things 1 Distribution 2 Translation 3 Survival
If I agree with you on what you said about distribution, what about translation? Is that not another factor to the Bible being the best seller of all time? Did I prevent the translation of the Koran or as if there are no translation of it
You have no point Sorry bro. If evolution is no proven fact, it won't gain more popular acceptance everyday. Even some religious organizations have come to accept it, not just scientists. Its no use discrediting it on Nairaland, bro I have told you why the Bible is still around. Its the religion of the world powers. Roman spread it right from the time of Constantine. Now America. Just like English is the most common and widespread language. This is because the world power of the US use English. When the Romans were in charge, many books were in Latin, including the Bible. The anatomical books we used in anatomy were all translated from Latin because they were initially written in them. Even many muscles retain their Latin names like brachialis, gastrocnemus etc |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:04pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Making noise like peacock Is evolution compatible with religion today How evolution describe the origin of life is not what the Bible says Can evolution tell us why we are here and how to get meaning in life and how to conduct ourselves to enjoy life? Yet, they say science is epic and making the world a better place. They've tried but they are heading mankind to DOOM. That is not an exciting prospect for me If not for vaccines, you would have been dead a long time ago. So if you are not grateful for anything scientific, at least be grateful for that. I don't want to point out the successes of science (including the source of the phone youre using to spew this trash) but lets leave it at that |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:01pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Lol Where did I say I don't believe it How does the word 'believe' comes into classification of animals? Sense de worry you walahi You don't believe we came from the Great Ape. No be so? Abi u wan deny? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 9:00pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: 1. When two persons give a report of a particular event as different period of times,it is a fool that will conclude that the second person copied the story for himself. Like I said, your problem is that you don't have good sense. Have you read and compared the Bible account and that of the Epic before you draw conclusion... I don't reason like an ape as you do cos I am not an ape like you are and I don't agree that my family or any of my ancestors were apes as you believe so we have different levels of thinking.
2. Second proof of faulty sense from a man who believe he is an ape yet says he's a doctor killing all his patients. Anyone can describe an event as he sees it. It could be an herdsman or a fisherman or a child and there are people who are specialised in a particular field like biology, geography, mathematics, etc that can explain what may have caused that thing to happen or the possibility that could have led to such events. Their findings does not overrule what the narrator says simply because he's not a specialist in such field. Doctor Jaephoenix with birdbrain
3. A circle is actually like a figure or shape while sphere is generally used to describe objects in circular shape. A ball is a sphere but the basic shape is circular. From the Bible, Isaiah 40:22 denotes that the Hebrew meaning of the word used to describe circle is still the same as sphere. You may google it. You are really tormented that the Bible did not support your lies that it said the earth was flat. Dr Lying Jaephoenix aka intelligent apemam claim the Bible said the Earth was flat. Seeing the evidence that he has proved himself as nasty liar, he says the earth is not actually circular or spherical. The basic meaning is still the same. You can shift the goalposts and carry it to your bedroom. No one will chase you 1. When 2 books give similar accounts of a singular event, it means the later book copied. Example, Mr. X wrote that he saw a red frog(which nobody else has seen before or after Mr. X says he sees it). Now if 10 years later, a certain Mr. Y says he saw a red frog, we can confer that he copied from Mr. X because no one has seen red frogs. Thats how your Bible copied the story of the great flood and other stories, from Epic of Gilgamesh. Not only that story, it copied the virgin birth and some others from Egyptian mythology like Horus 2. Stop dodging. If the Bible was a scientific book like it claimed, it should get simple shapes and events correct |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 8:45pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: If scientists like, let them place man with plants or microorganisms. They're free to do that but Who made man? Why are we here? Where do we come from? Where are we going? What does the future holds? Scientist are prophesying doom for mankind and they invest mostly on weapons of massive destruction. What kind of demon is really driving them?! Yet they tell us the world is getting better Thankfully, the One who made me tells me that the whole world will be a paradise. Scientists have all the time to do what they want until the Great Scientist come and kick them aware and renew the Earth.
For example, I can make moinmoin but someone may choose to group me among snacks like chinchin. Whether you call moinmoin a snack or whatever is up to you. But the person who put it in the group did not make it. He just did so based on some similarities and differences. Is scientist like, let them say Man is Ape or Man is Vegetable or Man is an Insect. That one no concern me. Carolus Linnaeus is not the one that Made me, Taxonomist did not make me. Anyhow they want t classify humans does not change who we really are especially to the one who Made Man And we have told you we don't know how man came to be. We are still speculating. But you insist you know but you don't have any evidence whatsoever. Your only evidence is a book copied from ancient books with multitude of mistakes and falsehoods. Same with other religions. How can you trust such a book? The same way you take Quoran and it her Holy story books as scams, is the same way we behold yours, and the rest Look, science says it doesn't know how we came here, but knows a tool called evolution that explains how we changed. There's no shame in saying "I don't know, but can we check this and this" instead of saying "Oh yes I know, this book says its like this" and the said book turns out to be a monumental scam |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 8:38pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Does that not display his foolishness Classification of living organisms is not static. It has really helped but there are still changes in the classification of organisms, some have been placed in another different class or order or kingdom. The main thing is not based on where or how we're classified, the question is this, Who made Man? Since you don't even believe in the classification of species, does it make any sense indulging you in this argument? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 8:33pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: Hahahaha See how ridiculous you can be 'You lost a BIBLE debate to an atheist...' It is like a woman who hates animals arguing with a zoologist and because the concept of the aspect of that zoology is too wonderful for her to comprehend for her petty mind, she says she has won... Do you know our storybook has changed lives? Many who were violent, drunk, wife beaters, thieves, criminals and all sorts have studied the Bible and turn a new leaf, they have come to see that their lives now have a purpose. They have a sense of meaning in life. If you can mention how evolutionary book have helped just one individual become a better person, I will be an atheist forever. Just one of how evolution has changed someone Life for the better. See how the world is turning to, people don't have fear of God and religion are approving conducts that God hates. When the fear of God is dead amongst mankind, you will see that Atheists and their wisdom are the biggest curse on mankind
Go and read about how Bible is translated. God allowed Pharoah heart to be hardened. He was a proud and wicked king and see himself as a god. Apeman Lol. I made a statement. You countered it. I brought virtually all translations of your favorite story book to back up my claim which was that your yhwh hardened poor Pharaoh's heart. And til now, you haven't brought any version or translation backing you up. Still spewing trash and trying unsuccessfully to sound knowledgeable but you're getting continuously schooled in the Bible by an atheist. By the way, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus all claim their favorite story books have made them better people. So your claim that bible is special because it makes people to change, is just plain bollocks. Again, and for the last time, evolution is not a religion. Its just an aspect of science that explains how we changed as humans, and also how the world changes. Its neither a religious book or a sect. Its just like some cretard arguing gravity should change human behavior. Does that make sense to you? If by now a 'biologist' doesn't understand what evolution is, then I can't help him or her. Just return your cert |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 8:10pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: The Bible has answered your question:
Man was created in God's image! Genesis 1:26
While all other creatures were made for man's pleasure to beautify and make his surrounding meaningful. All scientists knew and agreed with this before athiests came arguing blindly over it but whether you agree or not nothing is going to change an APE to human because God created all creatures according to their kind {Genesis 1:24} but as for humans He created in his own image!  Scientists agreed the animals were made for man's pleasure? How? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 8:09pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: You see why I always tell you that you don't have sense. It is not an insult. Go and ask a Blacksmith to work on your head I have heard of the Epic of Gilgamesh and other books who were older or contemporaries of the Bible. I ask Atheists 'So what?' Does the book discredit the Bible, mention one or two things you know about such books
Now look, there are three events that is found in almost all religious books and legends and myth all over the world though there appear to be contradictory One is the creation of the universe Second is that Man was originally living in perfection and Paradise Third is the global flood
Now,if there is an event. Some persons give an account about it earlier and you write yours later. Does that necessarily mean that those who may have written it FIRST or earlier were more accurate than you are or that you copied from them?! The Bible is inspired. If the Bible is truly inspired from God, it should be accessible to all mankind irrespective of language barrier or whatever. The Bible is the world's most translated book, the world's most distributed book and it changes life and it has survived despite attacks and bans and deaths. The Epic of Gilgamesh or the akkadian or sumerian books... Many are either lost,the language too hard to comprehend or many portion of its writing torn and lost... Well, that is religious literature for you and we don't expect them to last... The Bible began to be written 3500 years ago and it remains the bestseller for centuries. Evidence of divine authorship or human literature? The word of God endures forever...
As for the book of Joshua, he was writing based on how things appeared from his standpoint at the time. People at the time who saw or read such account must have understood unlike we today that know much about geography as people then will not really understand things like rotation of the earth and movement of light... A human being and not an ape that calls himself a doctor will understand that God is the one that created the earth and he could do as he pleases though Joshua may not have been aware of that fact but it was God who did it.. Jehovah can manipulate the movement of the earth so that the sun and the moon would seem motionless to an earthly observer. Or he can let the movement of the earth and the moon remain undisturbed while refracting the rays from the sun and the moon in such a way that the light from these two luminaries continues to shine... If you don't understand the power of the One who made the universe, you will still not understand or accept that but it is your own problem. There are things that apes will never understand
The Bible mentions the shape of the earth. Why not go online and read the commentary of the Hebrew meaning of Isaiah 40:22. It uses the exact context word as sphere. I know what you would have said it the Bible said it was another shape entirely. I read the same verse with other Atheists and their argument was that it was not only the writer of the Bible that must have believed the earth was spherical. Your stupid excuse is that it is still not correct. The earth is flat then. Apeman 1. So you agree the Epic was before the bible and both books gave report of the same stories. So what does that tell you?  Yup. The Bible copied from it. Same way the Qoran copied too. Even the Epic was copied too. The reason the Bible became bestseller was cos it was the religion of World powers like Roman and American empires. If Muslim countries ruled the world, the Quran woulda been best seller too. Does it make it legit? No. So stop your fallacious statement and focus 2. Now you're saying the book of Joshua was written by non-geographers but the next moment, you'll still hail the Bible as a piece of scientific text. Are you now seeing your error? If you say yhwh twisted the solar rays etc etc, no problem. We're used to gibberish from the bible. But don't come telling us the bible supports science. Cos it doesn't 3. Sphere and circle are not the same, sir. Simple |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 7:55pm On Dec 16, 2022 |
orisa37: "The Consequence(Importance) of The CURSE on ADAM AND EVE, i.e. 1, to till the ground , 2, live on his sweats and 3, EVE to be responsible wholly only to her Husband, Consequently leads to the Development of SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY ". "GOD is Everything. For Everything in HEAVEN and on Earth is GOD'S and it is to Him, we must return Everything". "GOD is SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY ". QED !!!
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To: maxinDHouse(m) & jaephoenix. when buhari goes to biden to watch football match in Biden's house, buhari is impatient of something. N1000:$1. Proof…. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Dangers Of Sleeping With A Married Man Or Woman by jaephoenix(m): 4:04am On Dec 16, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: Girls die when they sleep with a man who is not their husband and that is when they become evil and pursuing after Satan. 1 Timothy 5 has everything
But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.
Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith. Same as Proverbs 2:16-19.
And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.
For some are already turned aside after Satan.
God cuts them off completely and they there after become devils. Thus any girl or woman who sleeps around is a devil prowling and seeking to destroy men as Proverbs 2 warns
16To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words;
17 Which forsaketh the guide of her youth, and forgetteth the covenant of her God.
18 For her house inclineth unto death, and her paths unto the dead.
19 None that go unto her return again, neither take they hold of the paths of life.
And only they that listen to God and Obey Him, escape from her evil hands and voice and sweet perfume and unclothedness. @ the bolded, with this logic, about three quarter of girls aged 18 to 50 would have been dropping like flies, but they aint. But that's not your concern. Logic isn't exactly your strong point. Youre indeed legendary, oh great DTruthSpeaker  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Help! How Do I Deal With this Demonic Boy by jaephoenix(m): 3:48am On Dec 16, 2022 |
redeff06: Please how do I deal with a boy that is using Astral projection to monitor my life and disturb my thoughts all the time? I used to see his spirit following me and talking to my head all the time, even in the night. He has been doing this for up to 4 years now... This has caused stagnation to me, because he always oppose my thoughts. The boy has vowed never to leave me alone. I don't know how to stop him. I have tried praying against him but he still will not leave me alone. The boy's name is "Arodu Damilola". He is from Ikare Akoko, Ondo state.
Please any one who can help me pray against him, so that the power he is using to astral-project into my life will be destroyed and I will not see him again in my life. Symptoms: Visual and auditory hallucinations. Delusions of persecution. Lack of insight Diagnosis: Schizophrenia Differential diagnosis: Drug induced hallucinations especially LSD and meth, and/or psychosis Prognosis: Very poor Problem is they're gonna drag him to a church or mosque and worsen his case Mental health is really a problem in Africa |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 3:25am On Dec 16, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: SCIENCE belongs to humans in general not some APES that turned speakers all of a sudden. Science is to be understood gradually and that's God's plan!  Actually, the people that classified us as Great Apes are the scientists, and you said science is to be 'understood gradually' ands its part of gods plan for us. So does God want us understand science like the scientists want us to? I mean, y'all said god created science, meaning he signed off on the idea that we are all apes  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, With Science And Money, the Curses On Adam And Eve becomes Inconsequential by jaephoenix(m): 3:18am On Dec 16, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: The Genesis record as well as other books of the bible were written in simple words that even the common, uneducated man can understand. If that apeman has problems with understanding certain words and description of shapes written in the Bible. That is is own problem. There are millions that understood it. They were Humans and not apes
He argued that bible mention sunrise and sunset but science proves that sun does not rise or set... The Bible writer was writing from his view here on earth. Even in this modern world, I've not seen anyone, not even a scientist say 'earthrise' and 'earthset'. He's shooting himself
He said Bible says earth is flat He sees where Bible mentions that earth is a circle If they ask his child to draw the earth, what shape will it take? Now, he's having problem about the shape of the earth cos he does not want to agree with the Bible. His view will not change anything about the Bible, it was written several centuries before he was born and it will remain for several centuries when he becomes dust. His views and argument are very irrelevant 1. The bible was clear on that one, unfortunately. It clearly stated that the sun stood still. Joshua 10:13 New International Version So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day I didn’t write the Bible. You lot said its divinely inspired, so deal with it 2. About the shape of the earth, being a divinely inspired book and a verifiable and certifiable scientific book(like you lauding it the other day) the Bible should have at least gotten the shape of the earth correct. We're not telling to draw it, we are talking about verbal description. 3. About how old the Bible is, that's irrelevant. Google Epic of Gilgamesh. It was around way before your story book and would be years after you're worm food. Still doesn't confer any credibility or divinity to it. Stop commiting childish fallacies when being schooled in the Bible by an atheist |