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tctrills:
I Agree with you that Jesus Christ is God but definitely not the same person as his father. Being one could mean a few different things.
The Father is not Jehovah.

tctrills:
Jehovah is the son but yes he is the Everlasting Father.
The problem with you guys is that you choose the verses to believe in and those to disbelieve. Your bible called Jesus Christ the Everlasting Father and it also called him the Son of God so why are you acting confused?

tctrills:
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

tctrills:
Bro if you have a problem with attention or understand, leave the discussion for MaxInDHouse. Now in case you did not understand, Jesus Christ is the only Jehovah. Jehovah is his name. His father is not Jehovah. Do you understand now. Please if you are having comprehension problems Just follow the thread without commenting.

FxMasterz:
Please go and sit down. I have no discourse to make with you.

Exodus 6:3 & Acts 3:13,God Almighty says Jesus is his servant. Oga , delete am from your Bible.

Oga, go and challenge your fellow Trinitarians, the Amplified Bible translators, Genesis 16:7.
Nah dem make you vex.
Kpele.

FxMasterz:
1Timothy 3:16
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

There's only one God. All other gods worshiped by men are demons and fallen angels.

What you typed up there is grossly heretic. If we worship Gods as you depicted, then, we're pagans.

The fullness of the Godhead is contained in Christ Jesus.

Colossians 2:9
"For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body."

FxMasterz:
The I AM of the old testament is the Jesus Christ of the new. There's only one God manifested in three personalities.

Ephesians 4:5-6
"For there's only one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all."

What do you think Jesus meant when He said "I and my Father are one."?

FxMasterz:
The I AM of the old testament is the Jesus Christ of the new. There's only one God manifested in three personalities.

tctrills:
So according to JW correction of the bible,
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was a demigod.
And Isaiah 9.6 should read, the mighty demigod.
You religion is a foolish bend of Greek mythology and a little bit of the bible.
Do you realize that demigods are used in Greek mythology not in Christianity?

tctrills:
From your arguments, it's clear that you believe in many Gods only that you call one Almighty. Very little difference between you and me at that except that you sound exactly like the ancient Greeks. This was their position.

tctrills:
Jesus was a demigod according to JW. Not written in my Bible. Meanwhile you elder brother thinks Moses is deity.

John 1:1 Emphatic Diaglott Bible.
John 1:1 Good Speed Bible.
John 1:1 Coptic Sahidic Bible,1400 years older than your KJV.

The truth is bitter.

tctrills:
You and your younger brother should iron out your differences and stick to the same position. Was Moses also a Godlike deity?

tctrills:
And for you, the JW bible correction goes thus.
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was a godlike deity?
You guys have so corrupted Christianity that your version is no different from Greek mythology.
I still wonder why you feel the need to correct the bible and why you feel we should believe you mythology over Christianity

tctrills:
You claim to be Jehovah witnesses but clearly you have no idea who Jehovah is. Jesus Christ told the Jews that he is Lord of the Sabbath yet you still don't know that he is Jehovah.
He told them that he is I Am yet you argue. He is the very God of Israel. That is why David called him 'My Lord'. [/b]He is the Lord God of the old testament not his Father. He said, I came to my own by my own knew me not. Israel was his own. He was their God.

[b]
Who gave your Lord the command: Sit at my right hand?"
Acts 2:34 is in your Bible?

Acts 3:13 is in your Bible?

Nobody has ever given any command to Jehovah whereas, Jesus obeys his God's command, "sit at my right hand".

You don't know your Bible but you are obsessed with making noise.

tctrills:
No, not everyone just Christ. Learn to pay attention.
And thanks for the verse you quoted. Even the verse you quoted tells you that you belong to Christ. He is your Lord and God just as Thomas declared.

tctrills:
No, not everyone just Christ. Learn to pay attention.

tctrills:
Jesus Christ was Jehovah from day one. He is the Jehovah in the old testament. You claim to be his witness but you don't know who you witness?

1 Corinthians 3:23
"And You belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God"

According to tctrill's doctrine:
Tctrill's and and everyone is Jehovah of his old Testament.

MaxInDHouse:
If Adam was created in God's image does that make Adam Jehovah? Genesis 1:26

Well the Bible called Adam God's Son too {Luke 3:38} perhaps he has grown up to become Jehovah!

OLAADEGBU:
"Questions for Jehovah’s Witnesses"

Several questions worth consideration, especially while talking to Jehovah's witnesses.

See more at: http://ow.ly/MCgM50N2FGh

How much does Nairaland pay you to generate traffic by opening multiple threads to recycle the same questions?

The threads he opened for kumuyi business centers and gotquestions no dey move him market.

Attention seeker

MaxInDHouse:
This is why you're semi-atheist always saying you're catching fun when you can't prove anything right!

Jesus and Moses were Gods but the one and only true God they both worshiped is the one we JWs worship.

That's why Jesus said:

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." John 20:17

Ọmọ Jesus' Father is my father, his God is my God!

tctrills:
Please talk to him, your boy is very confused. You called Jesus Christ a God and not you say he is not a God anymore? You are more confused than him looooool

tctrills:
Only an idiot would shout My Lord and my God in exclamation. Stop this fake guess. It is a sin to use 5mthe Lord's name in vain. The Lord's name is not an exclamation mark. We all know it's disrespectful hence we don't use our father's names as exclamation. An apostle of Jesus Christ is not an idiot.

tctrills:
Oga are you discussing with me or are you here to discuss catholic doctrine. Your bible called Jesus Christ God in both testament but according to you, he was not really God. Should we believe you or the bible? It's not about the Catholic beliefs it's about the bible teachings

You will make a claim while your fellow Trinitarians will knock out your claim.

In the old Testament, your Jesus was an angel.
Genesis 16:7 is another evidence of your fellow Trinitarians disprove your claim.

tctrills:
Oga, I have not quoted a single catholic doctrine but I have quoted the bible so calm down. Paul and Peter never preached against Jesus Christ being God. In fact Thomas declared Jesus Christ as his Lord and God.

When you shout "oh My God! ", Exclamation mark of surprise, @ John 20:28.
That's not a reference to God at all.
Oga,Stop deceiving yourself.
Open any translation of John 20:28 & take note of the exclamation mark (!) there.

Las las ,John wrote chapter 20 verse 31 to DISAGREE with your claim.

tctrills:
So your version of bible calls worship homage I see. I guess wherever you see worship in your bible, you replace with homage or is it only in the convenient places.

tctrills:
Oga you don't have any point here. And you are just trying to be funny. So you point is that Jesus Christ is God only to angels right?
You are the one using the Catholic Jerusalem Bible and you are trying to force it on me. Lool

tctrills:
Matthew 14:33

And those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, “You are certainly God’s Son!”

Matthew 2:2

“Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”

tctrills:
Hebrews 1:6

And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says,
“And let all the angels of God worship Him.

Philippians 2:10

so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth"

tctrills:
You think Jesus Christ is a Nigerian with false titles. Oga he is not. He is the very beginning and the end.

Equality has never been our discussion. God would not give you a false title. He is not dishonest.

John 17:7 & Matthew 28:18 yet Jesus can't give himself any power or title.

Somebody is deceiving himself on this thread

Either you are LYING or your mentors at Nicene were LYING.

tctrills:
You are bringing up very irrelevant arguments. No one is placing anyone on any pedestal. I am only teaching you that they are both God j just as they are both Savoir and both of them are the beginning and the end. They are both our Father and so on and so forth.

Tctrill said: No one is placing anyone on any pedestal. I am only teaching you that they are both God"
Tctrill says "they are both God" on the same
pedestal. Tctrill's teaching.
Oga, you are not honest

tctrills:
The argument was never about seniority in heaven. Please stop losing concentration. I am only teaching you that your bible tells that Jesus Christ is God. Is his father senior to him? Yes
But if you don't believe the bible, it's up to you.
Question for you.. what did Jesus Christ call himself the beginning and the end? Are there 2 beginnings and ends

tctrills:
Oga your argument makes no sense. Even if they are not equal, how that mean that Jesus is not God. Please explain your logic. So if your house is bigger than my house does it mean mine is not a house? John 1. 1

God is NOT a House, your analogy faulty.
God will NOT, NEVER worship his son.
His son is NOT Almighty God.
Jesus converted Paul.
1 Corinthians 11:1-3 & 1 Corinthians 8:6, did Paul worship Jesus you worship?

The ONLY Theos (God) is ONLY the Father, Jesus Christ said that, John 17:3.
Emphasis.... ONLY stands ALONE.
Paul the apostle repeated that,1 Corinthians 8:6.
The God (ho Theos) of gods (theoi), Deuteronomy 10:17, his sons are theoi (gods), says Jesus , John10:34-36. Is Jesus his son? Jesus is a god ,theoi.

tctrills:
You seem confused, why would a God worship his son. What is your point exactly. I was not the one that crowned Jesus Christ a God.
?

Tctrill said "both are God".
Oga, you have admitted both are NOT equal.
Oga,you worship 2 unequal Beings
Therefore, Jesus is NOT his God.
More so,The ONE true God is Superior over Jesus, John 17:3.

tctrills:
You are bringing up irrelevant things. If Jesus Christ worshipped his father how does that show he is not God? I ask you again oga was it not written in your bible that Jesus Christ is God?

Also, Revelation 1.6
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen
The verse never said Jesus Christ worshipped anyone. Or can't you read. Please read before you quote.

Revelation 1:6 & 3:12 PROVEN that the Seniority is in heaven you are here deluding yourself.

Please read the screenshot of Revelation 1:6 "His God and Father (his Senior, Elder)."
@ @Revelation 3:12 Jesus said "my God"?
Both verses, John the apostle confirmed Jesus is a Worshipper of God, his Father (his Senior, Elder).

tctrills:
Do we have 2 saviours?

tctrills:
Do we have 2 beginning and end..

tctrills:
Do we have 2 Father's (Jesus Christ is the Everlasting Father and I bet you his father is also and Everlasting Father..

tctrills:
Yet you fail to understand that Jesus Christ is God like his father.