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Emusan:
That's nice!

But Jehovah Is also A GOD?

Emusan:
Jesus is The Lord of Lords
King of Kings.

Emusan:
Jesus is God of gods

sagenaija:
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If you honestly think this is the answer to the question I asked then you really need help.

sagenaija:
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When you run from answering questions directly it should occur to you somewhere in your head that you are being cunning.

When it is clear from that portion that the speaker identified himself you had to run to "elsewhere" in the book of Revelation to explain it because you want to impose your dogma on the portion of Scripture.

You run to concordance, etc to try and convince others yet basic means of scriptural interpretation has escaped you here.

Why are you guys so deliberately evasive and disingenuous? Vincit omnia veritas.

Emusan:
So Jesus is not The Alpha and the Omega

Nothing wey this followers of the lying 8 old men in Warwick won't say just because the seed of their father the Devil is in them.

Emusan:
So you agree both JWs and Trinity mentors inserted word into God's Word :

That's why Watchtower has to revenge by inserting their own fraud into God's Word

That's wonderful.
Irrelevant nonsense.

Emusan:
Where does the word "ALL OTHERS" appeared in those verses your lying brother put forth is the question
It's accurate yet your god and his active force forgot to inspire Paul to insert it in the original Greek not until the gods in Warwick remember him to do so

Emusan mumu , Luke was inspired to write God at Acts 12:22 & Acts 28:6,yet your Trinity mentors placed "a god" there.
Your comprehension skills very dull.

Emusan:
Anyway, you proof to us that Watchtower commited fraud by inserting into NWT what was not in the original manuscripts.

Emusan:
So Jesus was not in eternity with God.

So where was Jesus before HEAVEN was created? All created being needs space to occupy

By the way, you lost Micah 5:2 in your NWT?

Emusan:
The same common sense should have told you TWO THINGS can't be created at the same time IN THE BEGINNING.

Gen 1:1 says "IN THE BEGINNING, God created The heavens and the earth"

This is the best place God would have talked about Jesus being the first Created but yet It was HEAVENS and the EARTH that was created IN THE BEGINNING.
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Emusan:
Of course, every good Bible students know what Jesus meant by saying that except people like you.
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Emusan:
No! The Bible say heaven and earth were created IN THE BEGINNING not Jesus.

Emusan:
In fact, that very Prov 8:22 says Wisdom was POSSESSED by Jehovah before "His WORKS of OLD"

Isn't Jesus supposed to be PART of the WORKS?

DEFINITELY the wisdom predates creation and not part of creations (works)

1Corinthians 1:24,The wisdom is the person @ Proverbs 8:22,30 called the Craftsman.
Craftsman is ALWAYS a person in your Bible?
Yes.

Proverbs 8:22, Genesis 14:19,22 God the Hebrew word (Qanah) is CREATE (screenshot evidence).

Your Trinity mentors chosed "Possess" to obscure the truth @ Proverbs 8:22, the same manner they LIED that BEGINNING is Originator @ Revelation 3:14.
Is Originator at Mark13:19, Genesis 49:3, Genesis 1:1 & Proverbs 8:22?
Dishonest slaves of Trinity GIBBERISH

Emusan:
Change is different from FALSE!

Or better put it this way, Jehovah made FALSE PROPHECIES about animal sacrifice. Let's see how it sounds to you



If someone made FALSE prophecy, isn't that person A FALSE PROPHET?

Your skull is too full of dust



So in other words, Watchtower prophecies have CHANGED



@immaculatesense notice the choise of word used @underlined

@underlined is the keep.... If you call it mistakes

1. Was Jehovah change of prophecy a mistake as you cited above?

2. Was Samuel false prophecy a mistake?

Emusan:
They removed the name yet you know about it today, how come?

Is there sense in that?

Emusan:
But the same people coined the name in which you even identify your organization with now.
So your gullibility is raised to power 10
See ignoramus in display.

Emusan:
Go and read about FORMULATION OF THE WORD JEHOVAH, so that you'll know the difference between TRANSLITERATION and FORMULATION

But they formulated the divine name you know today as Jehovah

When I say you people are olodo and ignorance to the Word of God you'll think it's a joke.

Just imagine Jesus was "COINED TOO"

See ignoramus on display.
No be only formulation,na EMUSANLATION.

Is Jesus a Hebrew name of God's son?
You throw tantrums denying the use of letter "J" for God's name,yet you dey use am sing hymns inside your business centers and una dey call all the letter "J names wey plenty inside una Bible..


Hypocrites

immaculatesense:
I am waiting ooo...start listing the names of my gods of men that u know me with...oya start...
I av mentioned Charles Taze Russell...
Mention ur own u know me with...u dat u only know me as Christian...can u even guess my denomination or like u call it ORGANIZATION?...Try if u can

immaculatesense:
Conflicting doctorine?
False prophets?
When JW made several prophecies about about Jesus coming. is that not false prophesy whereby making your ORGANIZATION an assembly of FALSE PROPHETS...
Don't u tink so...FALSE PROPHETS MAKE FALSE PROPHECIES abi


SEALED

immaculatesense:
Lol...lame excuse
Tell me what SCHOOL the twelve disciples went to or Jesus sent them to?
Don't u go to school today?
Tell me what sound address system Jesus used to preach to people?
Don't u use sound address system in ur Hall today?


UNFOUNDED EXCUSES

Emusan:
I asked just simple question, you couldn't address it yet you can't see through that your delusion

Anyway, here is my simple question again!

what does the term "a god" mean?

sagenaija:
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Who is the Alpha and the Omega in Revelation 22:13-16?

sagenaija:
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Using your doctrinal position, if Archangel Michael were to cry to Jehovah would that mean he was no longer a god?

Emusan:
In his last paragraph, he said "Moses was God to Pharaoh"

Do you believe Jesus was God to JWs?

immaculatesense:
They THOUGHT...we Christians are still thinking today too...he may come today or not...we are always read.

immaculatesense:
But JW set date...exact date...but they failed...
Not ONCE
Not TWICE
BUT SIX TIMES...

FAILURE AT IT PEAK...FALSE PROPHETS ORGANIZATION

SEALED

johnw47:
oh duh lost fraud jw janosky

@bold, moses wasn't God and God never made moses God
God made moses like God/seem like God, to pharaoh

Exo 7:1 And the LORD said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh,

Exo 7:1 Then the LORD said to Moses, “Pay close attention to this. I will make you seem like God to Pharaoh

you false jw's love to twist God's word to support your lies and stories

moses was just a man, a man close to God
Jesus was and is the Word of God from eternity

the Word/Jesus made man/moses

The Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is far far far Superior to moses and to any man



you say moses was "God", and then @underline, you say
moses was "a god", you r a very confused twister
and dishonest as hell:

Confused John W dullard no understand turenchi.

Shey your Trinity mentors say "Jesus was God in essence( = divine,a god, divinity).
NOT God his Father in person"

Exodus 4:16,This Ordeh, did Jehovah make Aaron God?
Psalm 82:6 are his sons gods? Is Jesus his son?


1 Corinthians 8:4-5,Psalms 8:5,Psalm 82:6,Do you need to be told that gods in heaven (His sons) are superior to men (gods) on Earth?


The 2 screenshots PROVEN John W very dull

achorladey:
NO GET SENSE PEDDLER AND one whose SHAMELESSNESS is SEALED had to ask WHO OWNS the ORGANIZATION or those AROUND HIM?

I will repeat again where in Psalms 89:7 says word for word and in context that Jehovah owns that COUNCIL and those AROUND him. This is locked already
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OLAADEGBU:
"The Watchtower, Armageddon, and the Twentieth Century"

The Watchtower Organization has a history of false predictions and this is a huge one.

See more at http://ow.ly/kXAO50JSeFo

In screenshots, the same manner your gods of men ,kumuyi et al have ALL made false prophecies.

2010 prophecy of your gods of men:
"Nigeria will be among the World Powers by the year 2020."


Your reverted men who drank tea with 3 deities.
Oga you want more?

OLAADEGBU Weds hypocrisy.

achorladey:
NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER whose SHAMELESSNESS is SEALED, show me Jehovah’s organization in psalms 89:7?


Here is your NWT again





Let REPHRASE by putting that ORGANIZATION you are forcing into the scripture


God is held in awe in the ORGANIZATION of holy ones;+ He is grand and awe-inspiring to all who are around him.+

Simple question which NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER and the SHAMELESSNESS one will twist while answering below is

Is that ORGANIZATION or COUNCIL called JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION or JEHOVAH'S COUNCIL?

A. Yes

B. No.

Does that council or organisation word for word and in context as captured in psalms 88:7 refers to a religious group called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES aka JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION of which WATCHTOWER represents as cooked and hammered into your SKULL by your religious leaders.

I want to see how you go run and hide this time.

Emusan:
No where the word "ALL OTHERS" appear in any of the cited verses Prov 8:22, John 1:1, Col 1:15-16, Prov 8:30.

So where did you see that?

johnw47:
job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at


false jw mad max

you say Jesus was God like moses was God

well of course God never made moses God
but God made moses "like God" to pharaoh or "seem like God" to pharoah

Exo 7:1  And the LORD said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh,

Exo 7:1  Then the LORD said to Moses, “Pay close attention to this. I will make you seem like God to Pharaoh


you frauds don't know God's word and teach your lies all over the place:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Only one person was with God in the beginning {Proverbs 8:22; John 1:1} but all others came through the handiwork of the firstborn of all creations! Colossians 1:15-16 compare to Proverbs 8:30

So those elders are angels closer to God than the rest! Luke 1:19

achorladey:
Show me word for word where it is called JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION? In the council of Holy ones = Jehovah’s organization = NO GET SENSE PEDDLING = SHAMELESSNESS.

Those Bible verses don cast about using it to PROPAGATE your Jehovah’s organization.

Watchtower is NOT Jehovah’s organization. Their is nothing like Jehovah’s organization in the BIBLE. Na the invention of your founding fathers which you have come to accept hook line and sinker.




The screenshots are evidence of your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING on nairaland.

In all the years you spent in school, from kindergarten class to tertiary institution, did Achorladey EVER SEE & READ EVERY ENGLISH WORD IN ALL HIS TEXTBOOKS?

Achorladey WEY MUMU WELL WELL ,DOES EVERY ENGLISH WORD IN YOUR BIBLE HAVE SYNONYMS?

Achorladey MUMU does EVERY English & Greek words in your Bible have Synonyms?

Achorladey wey MUMU, @ Psalm 89:7,What is the SYNONYM for COUNCIL, ASSEMBLY?

Psalms 89:7,Na only one Person dey do assembly?
These 4 screenshots stands as evidence of Achorladey MUMU.

Oga,Please carry your MUMU go offline.

Nonsense ! .

OLAADEGBU:
"Col. 1:15, 'firstborn of all creation' " She how Jehovah’s Witnesses interpret the word “firstborn” here to mean “first-created” because it is consistent with their theological presupposition that Jesus is a created thing at http://ow.ly/TGQl50JSeGx

Colossians 1:15= Genesis 49:3.

OLAADEGBU deceiving himself,why is Reuben PREEMINENT?
Colossians 1:15 no let Trinitarians remove from the holy scriptures,them twist the meaning forgetting say Reuben is the beginning of the procreation by Jacob.

OLAADEGBU, I challenge you to name any first born without a Father in your Bible?
If you like borrow use kumuyi own Bible to answer the challenge posed to you.

achorladey:
Oga your question was, Is watchtower a person?

Watchtower is a person at LAW? I don't care whether we are talking about court of law or not.

achorladey:
Achorladey: 10:47pm,12 the July 2022.
Now back to the Bible. Is Psalms 89:7 and Acts 15:1-4 talking about a religious group or organisation that came to the scene +/- 140years ago in context and word for word?

Answer ooooo Mr NO GET SENSE and MUMU PEDDLER on nairaland.

achorladey:9:54PM,11th July 2022.
Wait and see him jump from pillar to post to defend ORGANIZATION that don't exist.

Acts 15:1-14 & Psalms 89:7, does Jehovah's
ORGANIZATION exist?


Achorladey Desperado LYING IN PUBLIC, continue to PEDDLE YOUR MUMU EXPOSED BY YOUR BIBLE

His family is the basic example of organization.
Yet, as Achorladey MUMU WELL WELL, JEHOVAH God won't have any, for him deluded mind.
The screenshots here na evidence the internet done record.
Tomorrow Achorladey come here,pack your Crew and LIE LIE again....

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achorladey:
Watchtower is a person at LAW. You don't know that abi Mr NO GET SENSE PEDDLER and whose SHAMELESSNESS is a SEALED case. When your erring religious leaders or erring members are summoned to the COURT what are some of the the names on the SUMMON PAPERS?

We go know if indeed WATCHTOWER na person or not.

You need lectures on organization or campany laws abi MR NO GET SENSE PEDDLER

Mikee19:
You don't get the folly of this sort of thinking. If can't help you maybe I'll help someone else...



So much error contained in very little sentences!

1) The apostles were inspired to carry out their duties of teaching scripture, your GB are not. Not even close. Absolutely no basis for comparison whatsoever!

2) The apostles gave scripture! Your GB CANNOT give scripture, but only interpretation. If e sure for them, if they're really comparable to the apostles, let them try it too. They cannot, yet you say you believe (with no basis) that they serve as your apostles today, when they are in no class and are no match for the actual apostles! See anybody can give wrong interpretation! Therefore you're right in admitting that by this stance you DO NOT know whether they're right or wrong:




Isn't this grand!

But lemme demonstrate your two-faced, double-tongued hypocritical way of thinking:

achorladey:
The above response definitely looks like a NO GET SENSE PEDDLER and one whose SHAMELESSNESS is SEALED.

Do you see me type, say or call christendom God's organisation? Do you? The many problems of NO GET SENSE PEDDLER. Deal with your FOLLY peddling.


Your O GET SENSE PEDDLING can and will never show me in context word for word how Acts 15: 1-4 or Psalms 89:7 states Jesus or Jehovah commissioned Watchtower. Na hook you dey so. This your Bible verse you like to advance to propagate your Jehovah’s witnesses organization teaching don CAST

achorladey:
Your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING and sealed SHAMELESSNESS did not see where I said word for word where WTBTS was commissioned by Jesus

achorladey:
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I only need the Bible verse cited here to show more that you are a confirm NO GET SENSE PEDDLER and your SHAMELESSNESS is a SEALED CASE



Show in context in this particular verse word for word where Jesus commissioned the watchtower as God's organisation?[/s]


[s]All those dictionary meaning and SYNODS your founding fathers rejected is what you and your religious leaders are now EMBRACING now

What you were using to call other Christian denominations false Christians is now what Jehovah and Jesus used to set up your religious organisation as true Christians. [/s]

[s]A complete case of NO GET SENSE PEDDLING as a result of [b]trying to parrot what your religious leaders asked you to swallow hook line and sinker. [/s]
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