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sagenaija:
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So Janosky, as a god (Since from your permutation you are as much a god as Jesus)

sagenaija:
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can you say like Jesus did that you and the Father are one?

Emusan:
It just so unfortunate that you can be so proud in ignorance!

Had it been you know the meaning of what you quoted it'd have been better for you we'll you're JaNosenses for a reason.

You better cure your delusion with this screenshot below

Ellicott says Rev 22:13 is applied to OUR LORD and strong declaration of His DIVINITY....

I'm sure JaNosenses agreed with Ellicott on this

Emusan:
Olodo.... despite you read "WILL" in that verse you can still call it OPINION...



The Father and the Son ARE ALWAYS in agreement.

What happened in Luke 22:42 is to demonstrate the Son's humanity.



When you don't even have a single strand of sense

Psalm 110:1 " Jehovah said to my Lord: 'Sit at my right hand until"
Ephesians 1:20-21 & Psalm 110:1, which humanity is in heaven when Jesus obey the command in heaven ?

@ Psalm 110:1 & Ephesians 1:20-21, which humanity is in heaven?
Trinitarians TWISTING holy scriptures.
Which OPINION/WILL did Emusan write in the holy Bible?

Preciousgirl:
See: Acts 26:23
...that the Christ would suffer, THAT HE WOULD BE THE FIRST � TO RISE FROM THE DEAD �, and would proclaim light to the Jewish people and to the Gentiles.”

....THAT IN ALL THINGS CHRIST JESUS MAY HAVE THE PREEMINENCE ���

Preciousgirl:
The dead deliberately exegete Colossians 1 :15 as Christ being God's first creation; that's blasphemy. The Christ is the Creator Himself (Colossians 1:16).
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Your Trinity mentors "deliberately exegete Colossians 1 :15", TWISTING the holy Bible by saying " first born OVER ALL creation" which the king James Bible disagreed.
KJV: "First born of every creature".
Is the first born of every child still a child?
Yes.
Therefore Jesus the first born of every creature is ALWAYS a creature.
1 Corinthians 8:6, Colossians 1:16 & Hebrew1:2, God His Father is the Creator.
Nicene Creed: "I believe in Jesus Christ....Born of the Father before all ages"

Preciousgirl:
What then is the true meaning of 'firstborn' in Colossians 1:15?
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Preciousgirl:
Jesus wasn't the first creation, Jesus is the Creator!

sagenaija:
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If I get you right, you Janosky can claim to be a god. Would that be correct?

sagenaija:
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Janosky and partner-in-(fill in the blanks),
Let's see who sticks with the Scripture.
The Jews who heard Jesus say those words were smarter than you guys. They understood clearly what Jesus meant by what he said.

Let's read from that John 10:30 to verse 33:
I and the Father are one.” Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

Do you accept the truth as stated in scripture or do you still want to remain stubborn loyal slaves to JW's GB? Would you stick to the scripture or choose to engage in gynastic reinterpretation of clear scriptural verses? Let's see who is playing Ludo with the Bible.

Oga, Biblehub (screenshots proof) your fellow Trinity worshippers FAULTED your claim.
Your Trinity mentors TAMPERED with John 10:33 to suit their delusion for falsehood.
John 10:33 correct rendition: "claim to be a god."
Like John 10:33, like John 1:1 " the Word was a god"

Psalm 82:1,6 , God calls his sons, gods.
One son is a god, collectively all His sons are gods,
Let us examine the content and context of John 10:34-36.
According to John 10:34-36 & Revelation2:18 (in heaven), the question is Jesus Christ the son of God?
Yes.
John 10:33, the son , Jesus is a god.

Shikena !
Gaskiya !

Kobojunkie:
As clearly indicated in the beginning parts of verse 4, the entire poem which is Isaiah 14 vs 4 - 21 speaks of the King of Babylon who fell from glory by his death.

Actually, a very lovely poem to read.

And at the end of the poem, God goes further to remind the reader of the fact that this message is indeed addressed to Babylon and no others.
Why folks who claim to believe in God choose instead to believe the delusions of men over the Word of God is beyond me.

MaxInDHouse:
Please don't TEACH them!
OLAADEGBU, Emusan, Johnw47 only does three things on this forum, it's whether telling Deeperlife News, Stylishly asking questions regarding what Kumuyi don't know or attacking Jehovah's Witnesses. You can see him use any of the accounts to chat with people about faith apart from those three things.

That's why i reserve my comment let them find out the answer to the two questions!

Steep:
The difference is, Jesus is the bright and morning star but Satan is just morning star.

OLAADEGBU:
Why are both Jesus and Satan referred to as the morning star?

Find out what the Bible says here: https://www.gotquestions.org/morning-star.html #morningstar #GotQuestions

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid that article is what you call bullsheet born of the doctrines of men.

As for the question, in all of scripture, Jesus Christ is the only one who is the morning star. Every other reference made was of men who thought themselves of great glory only to be felled by God Himself.

Kobojunkie:
My concern is for Churchians who blindly pay tax/tithe in the Name of God not realizing they doom themselves as in sin against God.

johnw47:
another difference between Christians and fraud jw's

with Christians it's mostly all about Jesus

with fraud jw's it's mostly all about their organization and the people in it

sagenaija:
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Again, you avoid the issue that is being pointed out to you and run off at a tangent to some unrelated things.
In John 10:30 Jesus said, "I and the Father are One.”
Focus on this statement of Jesus. What does it tell you? In your own words simply tell us what you think that statement means. Is that too hard for you to do? Or do you prefer to sound complicated and sophisticated to make yourself feel good about the knowledge you think you have?
For once avoid all the attacks and tell us what that statement is saying.

sagenaija:
Trying to do damage control? You need to try harder.
Is it really so difficult for you guys to simply exegete one verse?
If like you started off with "both are in agreement" (I'm not suggesting that that is the correct interpretation of that verse) then what is the point of "one needs to always bend to the opinion of the other"? If they are in agreement in the first place which other opinion is one bending to? Do you see why I say that you guys end up tying yourselves in knots? Being in agreement means having the same opinion. That does not call for one bending to "another" opinion. [/b]Attempt another answer. This time focus on the verse. What is it saying? What clear message can you see from it?

Emusan:
You have to put equal sign because you know more than your god
Does your Ellicott and Geneva Bible equate it?

Anyways, Rev 22:13-15 is about Jesus Christ

Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the ending, the first and the last.

If it pains you and your father the Devil much you can hit head on the wall.

The word of God is yeah and Amen

Emusan LIAR

Emusan Mumu Slaves of Trinity delusion.
Revelation 22:13 Ellicott Commentary
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
(13) I am Alpha . . .—Here (as in Revelation 21:6) we should render, I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. (See Note as above, and comp. John 1:1; Isaiah 44:6.)

Emusan:
That's because their not that intelligent.

How can you say: "Both are in agreement" then go further to contradict yourself by saying "even though one need to always bend to the opinion of the other"! Luke 22:42

That @underlined is so funny that can make one ask, how can this come from a supposed educated self acclaimed intelligence officer?

Luke 22:42
New International Version
“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done"

Luke 22:42, did Jesus Christ bend to the opinion of his Father?
Yes.

Luke 22:42, did Jesus Christ agree with the opinion of his Father?


Matthew7:23, according to Jesus Christ,Can Saga and the LIENUS receive Sense?
Confused Trinity slaves throwing tantrums.

sagenaija:
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At the end of the day, your words betray you.
You rant about how you are the best of people and organization but what you spew out of your mouths shows something else.

I am not asking about the relationship between the humanity of Christ and the Father or any of the other issues you bring up to cloud the main issue. All I asked is to tell us what John 10:30 means when Jesus said, "I and the Father are One.”

It is easy to see that you are stuck when your translation doesn't change words for you and when you are confronted with a direct challenge to your dogma. You still end up on a merry-go-round because you can't reconcile the truth of that verse with your dogma. The next immediate fallback for you guys then becomes name-calling and attacks.

Your first attempt failed woefully because you cannot claim it means they are in agreement and still talk about a different opinion. You can't confuse clear-minded people with your convoluted use of words. That's why I said you should try again. Unfortunately, your second attempt truly exposed you. You simply don't want to accept what that verse is clearly saying. You then end up explaining other conjured-up verses you bring up rather than the one in question. You've only complicated things for yourself. But we know that you are stubborn so you'll still fight on.

Oga, you are so in love with your tantrums & your delusion you have no love for the holy Bible.
John 10:30= John 17:21-22, Na so Jesus talk am.
But Trinity slaves prefer their delusion.

Emusan:
I only ask simple question but see how this deluded JaNosenses is ranting up and down.

Why did the Angel didn't accept the worship from John since it's Jehovah word?

The answer you want is in Revelation 22:9 but Emusan loves Trinity Delusion more than the Bible .
"But he said, “No, don’t worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this book. Worship only God!”

Revelation 22:9 is Jehovah's word transmitted through the angel @Revelation 22:1-15.

Emusan LIENUS REFUSES to RECEIVE SENSE.

johnw47:
[s][s]Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

Yehovah says: "I am the first, and I am the last"
Isa 44:6  Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.



revelation chapter 22 verse 7 onward is about the second coming of Christ
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Rev 22:7  Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 

Rev 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
 

He, the One which has been speaking these things say's "surely I come quickly", and john affirms that Jesus is He, the One who has been speaking these things:
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Rev 22:20  He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 
Rev 22:21  The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.


lost fraud jw janosky, you are already lost so these next verses won't stop you from doing the twist once more on God's word:

Rev 22:18  For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 
Rev 22:19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.



rev 4:8, Father comes invisibly in Jesus is not the topic
it's who is speaking which is the topic, and you are doing
a pathetic job at denying Jesus words:

1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father

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Emusan:
None of the scripture here ever say Jehovah gave COMMAND to Jesus

Lying liar! When will you out your father the Devil to shame for once over this your numerous lies?



Oponu oniro oshi.

Rev 22 Jesus called Himself "Alpha and Omega, the first and the last"

I know your father the Devil is still angry with that statement.

Throughout the Revelation Jesus is the ONLY one saying HE IS COMING, in fact your lying organization agreed that Jesus had COME not Jehovah


So Alpha and Omega Is different from FIRST AND THE LAST

Oma se oooo, yet the deluded JaNosenses will be parading himself up and down on this forum as a Greek and Hebrew scholar.

But the same Protos and eschatos was used in Rev 22:13

Oni ro ole.



The lying liar JaNosenses like his father the Devil.

sagenaija:
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Janosky would like us to take John 7:16 on its face value. The question to you then is do you believe John 10:30? When Jesus said, "I and the Father are One.”
John 10:30 do you believe it? Do you accept that he is as much Jehovah as the Father? Do you accept that from that statement they are one in essence and nature? Or are you going to look for how to reinterpret this to make it fit into your dogma? Will you use the same way you used in interpreting the John7:16 passage to interpret this one?

You should be able to see how you guys tie yourselves up in knots when you refuse to be straightforward.

they may be one as we are one"

Oga, Do you accept that he (Jesus) & the disciples is as much Jehovah as the Father?
Do you accept that from that statement of Jesus @ John 17:22,they are one in essence and nature?

Trinity delusion robbed your Sense.
Your claim on John 10:30 is not true.
More so, screenshot John 10:33 and 1Corinthians 8:4-5 PROVEN Jesus is a god. (Psalm 82:6 confirm)
Your Trinity mentors DUBIOUSLY put big letter G @ John 10:33.
Dubious lots.
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Emusan:
Deluded JaNosenses

So why didn't the Angel accept the worship from John since it's Jehovah word and not another person?
Always spewing nonsense.

Revelation 22:10 & Revelation 3:12,Acts 3:13, according to your Bible,,i both Jesus and that angel servants of the God of Abraham?
Yes.

Mr LIENUS @Revelation 22:10 & Revelation 3:12 & Acts 3:13, whom do both of them Worship?

Emusan LIENUS

Emusan:
But you lied the other time that there's ONLY one archangel

See JaNosenses, there's no amount of your lies that can cover up your delusion on this forum.

So actually, THERE ARE MANY archangels that means Jesus can't be an Angel.

Another doctrine in the drain

Emusan:
Does Arch mean CHIEF or not?

Does princes mean ANGELS or not?

Until you answer these questions

But at least I've help you with the above.



No one argue if Michael isn't an archangel but it's you who refused to acknowledge that Michael isn't ONE OF THE CHIEF(ARCH) PRINCES (ANGELS) ;


Does your NWT use the same WORD throughout their translation?

But it's very simple only if you can answer these simple questions

Does ARCH mean CHIEF or not?
Does Princes mean ANGELS or not?

I've been asking you more than three times now, why are you avoiding these questions?

because you know your ignorance will be exposed.



Cry me a river!

Who is talking about Trinity here?

So far, you're the one going back and forth on simple question.

Emusan delusion nauseating

New King James Version Genesis 4:19 & Daniel 10:13, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior.
In screenshots Strong's h259 , the password to cure Emusan delusion.

"Then Lamech took for himself two wives: the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah"

Daniel 10:13
But the Prince of the Kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days, but, lo, Michael, one of the chief (arch) princes (Angels)"

Daniel 10:13 & Genesis 4:19, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior,Head.

Is "First" attributed to Jesus Christ @ Hebrews 1:5 & Colossians 1:15.

Is Daniel 10:13,12:1 cross reference to Jesus Christ by your Trinity mentors?
YES!

Biblehub references "ONE" as First, Senior,"Head over ALL powers and principalities."

Yet,Emusan continues to emit GIBBERISH.

Emusan:
Does Arch mean CHIEF or not?

Does princes mean ANGELS or not?

Until you answer these questions

But at least I've help you with the above.



No one argue if Michael isn't an archangel but it's you who refused to acknowledge that Michael isn't ONE OF THE CHIEF(ARCH) PRINCES (ANGELS)



Does your NWT use the same WORD throughout their translation?

But it's very simple only if you can answer these simple questions

Does ARCH mean CHIEF or not?
Does Princes mean ANGELS or not?

I've been asking you more than three times now, why are you avoiding these questions?

because you know your ignorance will be exposed.



Cry me a river!

Who is talking about Trinity here?

So far, you're the one going back and forth on simple question.

Emusan delusion nauseating

New King James Version Genesis 4:19 & Daniel 10:13, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior.
In screenshots Strong's h259 , the password to cure Emusan delusion.

"Then Lamech took for himself two wives: the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah"

Daniel 10:13
But the Prince of the Kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days, but, lo, Michael, one of the chief (arch) princes (Angels)"

Daniel 10:13 & Genesis 4:19, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior.

Is "First" attributed to Jesus Christ @ Hebrews 1:5 & Colossians 1:15.

Is Daniel 10:13,12:1 cross reference to Jesus Christ by your Trinity mentors?
YES!

Biblehub references "ONE" as First, Senior to ALL powers and principalities.
Yet,Emusan continues to emit GIBBERISH.

Emusan:
Does Arch mean CHIEF or not?

Does princes mean ANGELS or not?

Until you answer these questions

But at least I've help you with the above.



No one argue if Michael isn't an archangel but it's you who refused to acknowledge that Michael isn't ONE OF THE CHIEF(ARCH) PRINCES (ANGELS)



Does your NWT use the same WORD throughout their translation?

But it's very simple only if you can answer these simple questions

Does ARCH mean CHIEF or not?
Does Princes mean ANGELS or not?

I've been asking you more than three times now, why are you avoiding these questions?

because you know your ignorance will be exposed.



Cry me a river!

Who is talking about Trinity here?

So far, you're the one going back and forth on simple question.

Emusan delusion nauseating

New King James Version Genesis 4:19 & Daniel 10:13, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior.
In screenshots Strong's h259 , the password to cure Emusan delusion.

"Then Lamech took for himself two wives: the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah"

Daniel 10:13
But the Prince of the Kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days, but, lo, Michael, one of the chief (arch) princes (Angels)"

Daniel 10:13 & Genesis 4:19, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior.

Is "First" attributed to Jesus Christ @ Hebrews 1:5 & Colossians 1:15.

Is Daniel 10:13,12:1 cross reference to Jesus Christ by your Trinity mentors?
YES!

achorladey:
NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER read your post very well and carry your SHAMELESSNESS comot for my mentions stop manipulating my SCREENSHOT into your.......





And returned replying with your READ and QUOTE . Awon NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER

sagenaija:
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Are you saying that God Jehovah asked him to say that on his behalf? So he couldn't be clearer but will require Janosky to help us understand his mind to show us that Jesus didn't actually say that of himself but was only a mouthpiece for God. When Jesus said "These are the words of the Son of God....." in Rev. 2:18 he didn't actually mean that those are his personal words, according to Janosky, he was speaking on behalf of God. Note that in the same chapter he mentions "my Father". Elsewhere he talks about "my God". But according to Janosky, he chose not to be clear in Rev. 22. It would require the " spiritual insight" of Janosky to explain it to use. It will require this deep to explain to us that when Jesus said ”I Jesus" he didn't really mean himself but was pointing to someone else.

You can see where your sense has taken you. I guess you are excited about your spiritual insight. Congratulations!