Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 10:13pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
achorladey: [s] I only need the Bible verse cited here to show more that you are a confirm NO GET SENSE PEDDLER and your SHAMELESSNESS is a SEALED CASE
Show in context in this particular verse word for word where Jesus commissioned the watchtower as God's organisation?
Achorladey continue in your folly.
All those dictionary meaning and SYNODS your founding fathers rejected is what you and your religious leaders are now EMBRACING now.
What you were using to call other Christian denominations false Christians is now what Jehovah and Jesus used to set up your religious organisation as true Christians.
A complete case of NO GET SENSE PEDDLING as a result of trying to parrot what your religious leaders asked you to swallow hook line and sinker. [/s] |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 10:03pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Emusan: That's not what make anybody God!
God is the creator and sustainer of the universe
Stop the ignoramus.
Now it's GOD Jehovah made Moses not A GOD again 
Confused JWs . Emusan calm down & study the definition here & receive Sense. Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more Search for a word divine1 /dɪˈvʌɪn/ Learn to pronounce See definitions in: All Religion · Dated Logic adjective 1. of or like God or a god. "heroes with divine powers." --__-------------------------------------------------------------- Two questions for Emusan: @ Pharoah's palace, Did Moses had divine powers? @ the Red Sea, did Moses display divine powers?
Moses was like God, Moses was a god. Aaron was a god, Exodus 4:16
Emusan: To even link the content of John 1:1 to Jesus earthly mission says more on how empty you are about scripture.
John 1:1 is about ETERNAL existing of the WORD
"In the Beginning WAS the Word, and the Word was WITH GOD, and God was the Word"
To says Jesus was ONCE God shows you like knowledge of that verse which even your organization dare not to interpret that way. . Empty tantrums won't help you. Deuteronomy 10:17, Jehovah is the God (ho Theos of John 1:1) of gods, (Psalm 82:6)His Sons. John 10:34-36, is Jesus His Son? John 10:33,(screenshots)is Jesus a god? Yes & YES, definitely ! Eve proceeded from Adam. Jesus proceeded (a god) from God his Father (ho Theos the God). Latin Bible is very PLAIN about this truth. Case closed.
Emusan: Stop this public display of shame! John was not there when The Word was With God in eternity before creation and that was past event.
So if you're to right something of the past you'll use present tenses bah
Oma se oooo
I know majority of JWs lack basic understanding of English. Revelation 3:14 & Mark 13:19 "the beginning of Creation which God created". @ Revelation 3:14, that beginning, that first born is Jesus Christ. John 17:7,24, God gave him EVERYTHING (life and glory) before the creation of the world.
Trinity delusion committed robbery with your Sense 
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:32pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
infini771: open your eyes Read the screenshot of John 1:1 and study Acts 12:22-23, note what is similar in both verses & RECEIVE SENSE, your eyes MUST open if you really want it to.
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:29pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
achorladey: Word for word Mr NO GET SENSE PEDDLER and the SHAMELESSNESS one  Isaiah 43:10,21 & Acts 15:14-17 Jehovah calls His chosen people by His name. Jehovah's witnesses. Word for word Acts 3:13 & Isaiah 43:10,21, Achorladey go & delete them from your Bible & have peace. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:19pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
infini771: No , they are not Talk is very cheap. You can't use your Bible to refute anything I have posted on this thread. You go just wound yourself  |
Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:15pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Emusan: Lol....see mumu question!
Were you not the one who says Ellicott KNOWS GREEK.
You know they don't agree with Ellicott but you still say Ellicott knows GREEK
You have lost it JaNosenses Ordeh !!!!! The important question: Why is the same ghost giving your fellow 3 deities worshippers (In the screenshot )"the word was a god" rendition of John 1:1 , different from your own & Ellicott's?
Emusan dullard 
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 8:58pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
achorladey: Wait and see him jump from pillar to post to defend ORGANIZATION that don't exist. Achorladey why this stupidity online? Psalms 89:7 "God is greatly feared in the council of the holy ones, more awe-inspiring than all who surround Him".
Council: A group of people meeting. Organization: A group of People meeting.."
Acts 15:1-14 (NIV) is the Council in Jerusalem members of Jehovah's organization?
Them dey go Synod in Christendom but come online to argue against Jehovah's Organization. The four screenshots are confirmed evidences.
Achorladey & his Crew, please carry your stupidity and delusion offline.
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 7:57pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre: They problem with you guys is that you resort to name calling whenever there's a theological disagreement. You copy pasted Strong's concordance and it was written "In" Then you went dig out one ancient commentary to prove your point, written by a scholar of Christendom (according to your people), but when that same commentary propagates Trinity doctrine, you call it false Janosky this your tactics no dey work again, I remember when you screenshot a commentary of over 200years old to prove that Jesus is archangel Michael . Why do you give exposure to your laziness for learning?
Geneva Bible is older than the KJV that the English monarch used to deceive the English speaking world with false doctrines.
Do you know that Jesus Christ is archangel Michael teaching was popular in Christendom before the advent of the KJV?
Please take your delusion offline .
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 7:49pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Emusan: [s]Just see this worshipper of lying 8 old men  [/s] From the horse mouth "Person (Ellicott)wey sabi GREEK" Yet the JaNosenses never accept Ellicott whole translation but the only part that suit his myopic mind, mumu hypocrite! In the words of Ellicott your fellow 3 deities worshipper, "John 17:20-23, the Union of the Father, Son and the believer as one is made perfect in love.
John 17:20-23 & Ellicott evidence debunk the mumu claim all Trinitarians attached to John 10:30. Further proof,Emusan is a LIENUS.

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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 7:40pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Emusan: That's how they roll . Especially that JaNosenses
Before you know jumping from Geneva Bible to Jerusalem Bible to Greek interlinear bla bla bla
But the same Geneva Bible he was using to claim Jesus is Michael also says Jesus is God  Sifia pains of a LIAR 
Mr LIENUS, Isaiah 6:8 Geneva Bible &common sense should have helped you realize Your claim is FALSE. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 7:35pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 7:18pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre: God's only channel of communication, but will not waste time to use Vine Expository Dictionary of the NT and defend some of their doctrines. Remember Vine na Christendom scholar. Crucifixion in Antiquity was written by a Reverend, but the won't hesitate to qoute half of it to support torture stake But I wonder why God's only channel no fit get their own commentary them dey do copy and paste. What sort of stupidity is this? What is the source texts of Vine Scholar and the Reverend? Na that same Bible wey you dey use them see am?
Abeg shift! 
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 11:46pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 11:44pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 11:34pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan: But the same Michael is ONE of THE CHIEF princes"
What's the difference between Arc and Chief? Emusan why? Is archbishop a Bishop? Is archbishop the Head,Boss of other Bishops?
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 11:32pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 11:27pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
achorladey: For example
Between January 1 1986 and March 15 1986 see the spiritual paradise enjoyed  Thanks very much. Achorladey PROVEN that Jehovah's servants REMOVED over 36,000 unrepentant ones from the Christian congregation of Jehovah's servants.
Jehovah REMOVED the rebellious sons of korah, heaven did not fall.
Likewise, Jesus lost Judas Iscariot named by Jesus in John 17:12 as the one He lost; the “son of perdition"
Oga, continue wailing . |
Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 11:03pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: When Jesus said: "I and the Father are one.” John 10:30 what does that mean?
And when he said: "I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. John 17:22 what does that mean?
Well let me assist you, the WATCHTOWER said it means UNION as in oneness in thought like ORGANIZED. But please tell me what you think about it!  Ellicott the Trinitarian scholar (screenshot) reset that kiddo mumu. He go copy rubbish for apostate forum dey expose his foolishness. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 10:59pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Courz: Hahahahahahahahahahaha. This Janosky na big fool o! See him shifting goal post. From IBSA is not Bible Students to IBSA are not linked to JWs to IBSA Charity is not IBSA forgetting that IBSA is registered as a Charity in the UK. Ha!! FooL! These JWs are Cursed!
Let's see which goal post you will shift to again.
Any claims of IBSA not connected to JWs is meant to be a Smokescreen statement by Watchtower to deceive you JWs. They are Freemasons remember? Freemasons use smokescreen statements. Go and read about the Deceit of Freemasons jare You dullard! Use your Brain! The opposite is the Reality! What you should focus on is what they say where these corporations are registered. Go to websites having the registration of these corporations and read what they say there. What they say to you JWs is Always different from what they say to the Public! They are running a Scam with IBSA You Fool! You ought to know this by now!
Mad Janosky with a Maggot infested brain, look at another website exposing your delusion! Union of International Associations (UIA) says IBSA work for Jehovah's witnesses and Jw. org website is listed as a Contact detail. What say you, O Janosky with a Maggot infested brain! 
Use Mathematics and deny this one let me see. Find this website in the first pic below and click on the links that are provided as Contacts of IBSA and see where IBSA and Jw links take you. Fool!  10:47pm On Jul 05 Janosky:
Ordeh!!!
Bible Student channel online (with Freemason symbols cross & crown) is NOT IBSA or Jehovah's witnesses" ---------_--------__--------_-------------------------------------- Courz,PATHOLOGICAL LIAR, is your Bible Student channel online & Internationalbiblestudents.com ( both with Freemason symbols) link their website to JW.ORG? Capital NO !!!!!!
In your Screenshot,Is IBSA Charity link to JW.ORG? Capital YES !!
Bible Student channel online & Internationalbiblestudents.com ( both with Freemason symbols) is NOT JWs IBSA Charity in Great Britain.
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Courz PATHOLOGICAL LIAR, YOUR CURSE FALL ON YOUR DELUDED HEAD IN JESUS NAME,AMEN !!!!!!
Courz PATHOLOGICAL LIAR !!!!
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 10:26pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 10:20pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
achorladey: And Jesus never commissioned a religion where 41,000 different sects will be claiming they're all his followers yet having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines
MaxInDHouse the below goes to you......
Shows us 1 verse sorry 1/4 of a verse of the scripture where Jesus commissioned the religious organization you belong word for word.  Isaiah 43:10,21 & Acts 15:14-17 Jehovah calls His chosen people by His name. Jehovah's witnesses. Acts 3:13 & Isaiah 43:10,21,is Jesus Christ a Jehovah's witness? Yes! If Acts 3:13 & Isaiah 43:10,21 pain you,comot am from your bible. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 10:13pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:52pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 9:42pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan: We know who is living in his folly here 
That's what I'm saying, that means Moses is an Angel since he was sent by God.
John the Baptist is an Angel since he too was sent by God 
Your John 7:16 lie no hold water again.
That's how the deluded JWs will be jumping from different verse to another without making sense.
God sent His Son! Geneva Bible is now your favorite Bible Hypocrite
I understand you completely Mr Gebbrish typer the great JaNosenses.
Provide where Bible explicitly says Jesus is angel Micheal, is that too hard for you Watchtower brainwashed?  Oga, continue in your folly. Or go argue with your Trinity mentors who confirm Jesus Christ is archangel Michael. The same ghost is leading you and them.
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 9:35pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You can read Exodus 7:1 in any version of your choice but let me quote from the ones i have here:
Jehovah then said to Moses: “See, I have made you like God to Pharʹaoh, and Aaron your own brother will become your prophet. NWT
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, i have made thee a god to Pharaoh and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. KJV
And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Holy Bible
Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet. NIV
And the Lord said to Moses, “See, I make you as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet. RSV
Moses was God to Pharaoh the greatest king on this planet at the time!  Brother Max, well done. The exposure JWs have given them on this thread will help them realize they go to church to warm up the bench and dance away precious time for Bible study.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 9:28pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Jokerman: My brother.... Michael is not the only Archangel... Gabriel is an Archangel.... Lucifer was a Cherub.... now angels are classed...
Messengers Warriors Thrones
Arch messenger- Gabriel
Arch Warrior- Michael
Arch Cherub- Lucifer (before the fall)
The Son of God, is not the same as Archangel Michael... Archangel no get plural. Only Jesus Christ leads other angels, e dey your bible , Matthew 25:31 & 2 Thess1:8-9. I asked you 4 questions, you no fit answer. Y?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 9:23pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan: You keep displaying your ignoramus the more!
God sent Moses to pharaoh that means Moses is an Angel 
Is it today you have been screenshoting?
The same Geneva Bible says Jesus is God. Do you take it? Hypocrite, you can cherry pick the part that suits you, you're not the first who'll do that, your father the Devil started it  Oga, continue in your folly. Greek 32 aggelous (screenshot) your Trinity mentors are teaching you Angel mean Messenger (human or a spirit entity ),someone sent by God with a message to deliver. Was Moses, Jesus sent by God?
Isaiah 6:8 in Geneva Bible, did God send himself at John 3:16? Your false claim is NOT in Geneva Bible.
I refuse to assume responsibility for your FOOLISHNESS,Mr LIENUS.
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:08pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre: Go and check the original Greek of that passage the correct word is "in" not "union". "Union" is a paraphrase not a translation Away from that how is that passage connected with ORGANIZATION? LIAR continue in your folly. in ἐν (en) Preposition Strong's 1722: In, on, among.People wey know Greek confirm "Union" is accurate and acceptable at John 17:20-13. Ordeh!!
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 8:53pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
AgirlsNightmAre: [b]They've bought a lot of stocks in the United States including numerous shares and corporations. But will tell the rank and files to avoid materialism and practice self-denial. [/b]Poverty is being glorified, while the wear expensive suites and live in comfort at bethel. Leaving your well paying job or withdrawing from college is seen as a big feat which must be taken so that you can devote your whole life to proclaim the false Goodnews of 1914 and Other sheep with no mediator, who only observe but do not partake of the Lord's evening meal. I tire for this people........ LIAR, continue deceiving yourself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 8:43pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 8:35pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Jokerman: .
▪︎Daniel 12:1 "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book".
Since Michael is the great Prince that stands for the children of Israel, then he must be Jesus Christ himself. Daniel 12:1 & Daniel 10:13, your Trinity mentors confirm Jesus Christ is archangel Michael since 1599 (look up the screenshot of Daniel 12:1) long before the advent of the KJV. They brought the KJV to suppress Geneva Bible,pls go & find out.The history is not hidden.  Jokerman: .
▪︎1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Since Jesus is coming with the voice of the Archangel, and the Bible only mentions one Archangel, Michael, then Jesus must be the same personality as Michael. Yes. Jokerman: . What does Archangel mean? It means a chief or leading angel.. Now is Jesus Christ the son of God an angel himself? Hebrew language (spoken by Jesus) bene Elohim meaning Angel,son of God. Go find out.  Oga, is Jesus Christ bene Elohim? Capital YES ! Jokerman: . REASONS WHY JESUS IS NOT ANGEL MICHAEL NOR IS HE AN ANGEL AT ALL
1. Jesus himself specifically differentiates Himself from angels Mark 13:32, KJV: But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
The son has greater authority than all angels. Jesus Christ spoke Hebrew and Greek. In Hebrew Jesus is bene Elohim (Angel,son of God), John 1:49. In Greek, Jesus Christ is aggelous (Angel, Messenger),John 7:16. Oga, your bible says your claim is FALSE. No vex.  Your Bible also confirm Jesus have greater authority than other angels he leads, Matt25:31, 1 Thess4:16,2 Thess1:8-9, Rev 12:7-9. Dan 12:1. Jokerman: .
2. The Apostles also differentiated Jesus Christ from Angels ▪︎ St Peter: 1 Peter 3: 21-22 ........................ It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at God’s right hand—with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.
▪︎ St Paul: Hebrews 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Lalasticlala Mynd44 Did 1 Peter 3: 21-22 Matt25:31 & 1 Thess4:16 confirm Jesus leadership and authority over other bene Elohim (angels)? Nothing unusual about that.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 8:03pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Jokerman: Some school of thought argue that the son (Jesus Christ) is an angel, telling you that Jesus is the same person as Archangel Michael.
Where do they get this misconstrued idea from?? Let's take a peek from their verses of argument.
Lalasticlala Mynd44 John 7:16, Jesus Christ confirm he is aggelous (Greek32:Angel/Messenger screenshots). Oga ,pls answer 4 questions.. Genesis 3:15 & Revelation 12:7-9,who is the serpent? Genesis 3:15, Revelation 12:7-9 & 1 John 3:8, who defeats the serpent? Matthew 25:31,2 Thess1:8-9, is Jesus leading other angels to victory as Archangel Michael lead other angels @ Daniel 12:1? Before the advent of the KJV , did your Trinity mentors confirm Jesus is Archangel Michael?Why do you call your Bible's truth, the words of Jesus, "a school of thought"? So disrespectful. Abeg ,go and learn !
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