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AllenforGOD:
in the begining of creation jesus was there,he also was with God,and he also is GOD

Janosky:
In very strong terms I reject Freshboi DUBIOUS ACTION (in screenshot shot) of using Janosky moniker for FORGERY the same DUBIOUS ACTION of your Trinity mentors @1John 5:7.

If your claim were genuine,why use Janosky moniker to post your GIBBERISH?
This Boi,Stay in your lane.
End of discussion.

freshboi88:
Man wants to run with his tail within his legs.

You agree with me that they didn't see The Father, so who did they see?...you say angel. But scripture said they saw God of Israel. Even your own new world translation says God of Israel.

Eyaaah, it dey pain to know u r defending a lie from hell's pit

freshboi88:
I know it's hard for you....the truth stirring at you right in the face

Emusan:
This JaNosenses lying liar!

Jesus is Almighty and your God, let it continue to give you severe painment.

Emusan:
The JaNosenses is now fighting with his conscience
This is what happened when you're an hypocrite. You'll rush to Ellicott, Barnes, Clake, Jubilee Bible, Jerusalem Bible, e.t.c to cherry pick and validation of your stupidity but whenever they disagree with you, you start running around quoting other sources.

Emusan:
That's why I do tell you, stop quoting this people because you and them are not in the same page.
You're a confused ignoramus person.

So if some says, Revelation 1:8 it's about Jehovah and went further to say there's something CALLED TRINITY, are you saying two of you are on the same page?

Definitely it's your deluded brain that misunderstood their point.

Emusan:
At least, you're the one who supports the insertion of the word "OTHER" that changes the scripture. The word that was never found in the original manuscripts

sagenaija:
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Janosky running away again from the real issue. He thinks that diverting attention away from the main issue makes him win an argument.

sagenaija:
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Do you believe in one God with a capital 'G' and another with a small 'g'?
Are you finding it hard to answer?

johnw47:
[s]Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool

with your name calling and false accusations it's clearly you that is throwing tantrums
but of course you false jw's cannot ever stop lying:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

lost fraud jw janosky, you sure are dum[/s]

johnw47:
you have no understanding at all, your screenshot shows that you false jw's use the same greek word (proskuneo) to mean "worship" when it's not referring to Jesus, and then change it to mean "obeisance" when it is referring to "Jesus"

johnw47:
you are such deceivers and deniers of the Lord Jesus Christ:

1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father


you false jw's think that Jesus is just a Jehovah's witness as you people
falsely claim to be

johnw47:
Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, begotten before time began,

johnw47:
the Word/Jesus became a man and died for the salvation of the world,
He certainly does deserve worship along with His Father who sent Him:

johnw47:
Mat 2:11  And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him

^^ falling down on the stable floor before the baby Jesus is much more than "obeisance"
it is "Worship'

Mat 14:33  Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God. 

Mat 28:9  And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.

^^ on their elbows and knees holding His feet is much more than "obeisance"
it is "Worship/adoreation"

Mat 28:17  And when they saw him, they worshipped him

obeisance: a gesture expressing respect, such as a bow

Worship: prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to, adore)

and falling to their knees they did him homage" (as in the two screenshots, NOT worship.)

John W con artist, the Catholic Church whose leaders invented Trinity have rejected your FAKE translations.
Go and read EVERY of your quote in the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible and cure your delusion.
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MaxInDHouse:
JWs say Jesus is one of the angels they say NO but now he wants to prove that people saw God in the Old Testament when it's written that no man has ever seen God at any time.

He's just suffering from the delusion his pastors infused in his head with TRINITY but he wants to enforce TRINITY that's why he's been dancing round the circus when actually he knows next to nothing!

freshboi88:
Quoting irrelevant scriptures.....

Janosky can you quote anywhere in scripture where the people or a single person sees an angel of the lord and says I saw the God of Israel?

If you can show me, I go hail you....

Janosky can you tell me where exactly, make lie kill you there

freshboi88:
Hahahaha.......who did Moses see now....U say nah percieved dem perceive God. Janosky say nah. Angel dem see.....

See confusion among JW......una too lie. Fake people

freshboi88:
So, Moses and Aaron saw the God of Israel who is Jehovah. But they didn't see the Father, rather they saw the one who reveals him (Jesus)

NWT John 1:
18 No man has seen God at any time;+ the only-begotten god+ who is at the Father’s side*+ is the one who has explained Him.+

They saw the one who explains the Father, that is why they where able to give a description.

Simply put the person they saw is the God of Israel (Jesus)

freshboi88:
Who did Moses see now...is that one hard to answer?

freshboi88:
You are helping make my point that no one has seen Jehovah, which i initially quoted.

You are not making any sense....can you just answer the question...


Who did Moses and Aaron see when they said they saw the God of Israel?

freshboi88:
So it's God's qualities that Moses and Aaron his brother were able to perceived not God's face in a literal sense!

So going by your quote above @bolded ?

If they only perceive God's qualities and didn't see, even doh your Bible says Saw God and not percieved God. How were they able to describe him.

NWT Exodus 24:9

Moses and Aaron, Naʹdab and A·biʹhu, and 70 of the elders of Israel went up, 10 and they saw the God of Israel.k Under his feet was what seemed like a sapphire pavement, and it was as pure as the heavens themselves.l 11 He did not harm the distinguished men of Israel,m and they saw a vision of the true God and ate and drank.

Can one give a description of what one percieved and doesn't see.....


MaxinDHouse your lie ehn dey smell wotowoto

sagenaija:
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Janosky prefers his belief in two gods. In one God with a capital 'G' and another with a small 'g'. Yet he rails others for their beliefs. He doesn't know he has to his eyes to his very faulty position.

OLAADEGBU:
Contradictions in Watchtower Literature
by Matt Slick | Apr 30, 2008 | Jehovah's Witnesses, World Religions

The Watchtower says it is God's only true organization: "Only this organization functions for Jehovah's purpose and to his praise. To it alone God's Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book," (Watchtower, July 1, 1973, p. 402). watchtower It claims to speak for God, yet it has produced numerous contradictory statements. Can you trust an organization that contradicts itself about so many things? No, you cannot. It is not God's organization.

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Peter's & the disciples contradictory statements are in your Bible, Matthew 26:31-35,69-75.

Prophet Nathan's contradictory statements is in your Bible,2 Samuel 7:1-4.

Do you want more?
Like Peter like Nathan like Jehovah's organization both of them belong to.

Kumuyi slave can NOT talk about his master changing doctrines like women wrapper.
Him say na "paradigm shift"
OLAADEGBU super glued to HYPOCRISY.

OLAADEGBU:
Col. 1:16-17, " . . . all [other] things were created by him . . . " and the Jehovah's Witnesses" See how the Jehovah's Witness organization has altered the biblical text to suit to its theology at http://ow.ly/Lnkj50JXNLK

OLAADEGBU:
Heb. 1:6, "Let the angels do obeisance to him."

The problem with this verse in the JW Bible is with the word "obeisance." Discover why at http://ow.ly/N9Rm50JXNPt

https://www.bibliacatolica.com.br › ...
Hebrews, 1:6New Jerusalem Bible
"6. Again, when he brings the First-born into the world, he says: Let all the angels of God pay him homage"

Kumuyi slave is NOT wise.

sagenaija:
Is it a lie that Jesus is clearly the Alpha and the Omega? Is he the First and the Last?

sagenaija:
Jesus the creator of all things is God:

sagenaija:
He also says, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end.”
Hebrews 1:10‭, ‬12
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sagenaija:
Janosky, instead of darting up and down why not answer the above? You guys believe in more than one God but make a cry about something else. Instead of sorting out the mess your GB has created for you.

sagenaija:
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Again, Janosky, is it a lie that Jesus is THE SON of God according to the book of Hebrews and Revelation? When the article 'the' is used what does that mean, scholar Janosky?

2.
Jesus is Jehovah the God of Israel"

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freshboi88:
Pls JW in the house can you enlighten me on something.

Please if John 1:8 says

New International Version
No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known

Now let's go to Exodus 24: 9-10

9Then Moses, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel climbed up the mountain. 10There they saw the God of Israel. Under his feet there seemed to be a surface of brilliant blue lapis lazuli, as clear as the sky itself. 11And though these nobles of Israel gazed upon God, he did not destroy them. In fact, they ate a covenant meal, eating and drinking in his presence!

Now, JW if you believe John 1:8, who did Moses and Aaron see?

hahahahaha.......watch how they will go and copy long watch tower epistles of doom.

Maynnmann:
Yaldaboath worshippers in the watchtower.

sagenaija:
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You are dishonest when you ignore context. You don't care about the truth when choose to dart up and down without focus.
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sagenaija:
You want to use screenshots to confuse issues but someone has pointed out your deception.
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sagenaija:
Jesus is not just a son. He is the Son of God. [/b]He is unique. When the article 'the' is used what does that mean, scholar Janosky?

Jesus is clearly the Alpha and the Omega.
He is the First and the Last. These constitute part of his uniqueness.
Rev. 22, therefore, agrees with Isaiah that [b]Jesus is Jehovah the God of Israel [/b] whom Isaiah also attributes these titles to.

Sagenaija post:
"Jesus is not just a son. He is the Son of God.
Jesus is Jehovah the God of Israel"
Confused Trinitarians with their delusion.
He forgot Jesus is the 2nd Person in their delusion.

sagenaija:
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
Revelation 22:16 NIV

He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.
Revelation 22:20 NIV

sagenaija:
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“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Revelation 22:12‭-‬13 NIV

Did you see the words in verse 13:" Alpha and Omega ","the First and the Last" PROVEN that "Protos (first) & Eschatos (last) different from Alpha and Omega?
The screenshot of your Trinity mentors, wear goggles check am well well.
Your Trinity mentors confirm their disagreement with your claims on Revelation 22:12-13.
Jewish Rabbi's say Revelation 22:12-13 refers to God Almighty but Sagenaija dey push your 2nd deity to Almighty status.
Oga,Check the first screenshot your Trinity mentors debunk your claim on Revelation 1:8, the same thing JWs have been telling you on this thread.

sagenaija:
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To which of angels. To which of the angels. To which of the angels.

Do you see how you missed that?

Oga,Do you see how you missed that Job 1:6?
Job 1:6
"And the day came and the Sons of God came to stand before LORD JEHOVAH, and Satan came also in their midst to stand before LORD JEHOVAH"

Oga, you have the choice to accept Job1:6 (in screenshot) as inspired scripture or reject it to cherry pick Hebrews 1:5 expression Paul copied from 2 Samuel 7:14 & Psalms 2:7 (screenshot).
Job 1:6 is in every Bible translation of your Trinity mentors.

sagenaija:
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
Revelation 1:17‭-‬18 NIV

sagenaija:
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For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father”? Or again, “I will be his Father, and he will be my Son”?
Hebrews 1:5 NIV

Going by Sagenaija logic,is King Solomon the only son of God?
Oga, everyone of God's son is a god, Psalms 82:6 & Job 1:6 ,biblehub .

Your cherry picking Hebrews 1:5 doesn't change anything about Psalms 82:6(quote of Jesus Christ@ John 10:34-36) regarding the sonship status of angels or Jesus Christ even your Nicene Creed invented by your Trinity mentors confirm that.

AdventHero:
There is no greater authority for building a solid belief in the mystery of the Godhead than the Bible. That Jesus is God is a great mystery that can not be explained away by human logic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRI09PM-lv8 https://fb.watch/era6N-j1V6/

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky

how you love to mock the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit
calling them all sorts of names like: "the 3 dogheads"
and you call the Holy Spirit: "the ole demon ghost"

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.


and how you people love to lie, even with knowing that God hates it
God hates lies/a false witness, so you people lie even the more
you false jw's are are of course liars/false witnesses

Pro 6:16  These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 
Pro 6:17  A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 
Pro 6:18  An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 
Pro 6:19  A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire

Emusan:
Like I do say, when it suits you hypocrite, you agreed but when it doesn't you disagree.
Look at the @underlined the idiotic JaNosenses now claimed Ellicott is CONFLICT

JaNosenses the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil

This mumu LIENUS

Who did Ellicott Commentary say is Almighty at Revelation 1:8 & 2 Corinthians 6:18?
Is Jesus "Almighty" at Revelation 1'8?
Ellicott says No !!!!

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
( The beginning and the ending.—These words are of doubtful authority; they are in all probability taken from Revelation 22:13, and interpolated here. The description of the verse applies, with little doubt, to our Lord, and the words are a strong declaration of His divinity.
The Almighty.—The word thus rendered is, with one exception (2Corinthians 6:18), peculiar to this book in the New Testament
2 Corinthians 6:18= 2 Samuel 7:14.
Jehovah God Almighty @2Corinthians 6:18 & 2Samuel 7:14 is the Alpha and Omega.
Shikena !

sagenaija:
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Keep piling up your blasphemy on top of the other.
Your brainwash has turned you into a Nairaland court jester.
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sagenaija:
Very soon you'll tell us that you are an Alpha and Omega. You'll also tell us that you are the one coming soon with rewards.

johnw47:
Act 3:13  The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.

Joh 20:17  Jesus said, Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

Joh 9:4  As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work.


lost fraud jw janosky

what has these verses you referred to got to do with Christians being mostly about Christ, while you false jw's are mostly about your org. and the people in it

you false jw's post scripture all the time which has nothing to do with what is being said, u such deceivers, aren't you
and your voices have you continually confused:

Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus."

I challenge John W fraud:
Which servant of Jehovah in Acts 3:13, John 9:4 & 20:17 is worshipping your 3 deities?

Kumuyi slave dey carry him frustration come social media