₦airaland Forum

jaephoenix:
Oh I know a lot. Lot more than you care about. I know they are a filthy lot. Very dishonest. My hospital is currently embroiled in a lawsuit with one of them and I interact with some online here. And I don't wanna be associated with you guys

Courz:
JWs are extremists because they are in a Cult. Any denomination that preaches that they are the One true religion so as to force members to remain in there without some freedom to change your mind is a Cult. Any denomination I go that gives me this Culty vibe, I won't go there again. You can't Leave JW all to end up with another Cult again. Its just like leaving JW to go and join Mormon.

MightySparrow:
I understand you perfectly. The PIMOs are your members who are by your assessment not known by your Jehovah. This position may be wrong. Is your GB or you are the ones making the assessment? Definitely not. So the PIMOs are mingling with better truths elsewhere. You can condemn then, shun them, disfellowship them from your Kingdom Hall. That definitely does not mean that God has disfellowshipped them. They are at peace with their God and serving without any fear or guilt. All the guilt, care, condemnation are only with your organization.
This people are at peace and are rejoicing in their newfound truths [/b] the same way you are happy in abandoning Islamic truth.

So, do not worry yourself. And if you want to help your lost sheep, start from this OP.

Peace.

Courz:
The rest of Christianity have been maintaining their doctrines for thousands of years. All of them believe in the Kingdom of heaven. The Bible has remained the same. No changes
. We cannot say the same for your religion. Charles Taze Russell brought his own doctrine. Rutherford came and changed everything. The next person brought their own. Your Governing body are being replaced with new ones and those ones will bring their own doctrine. Which is why you can now keep beards. Between you and other Christians, who will be taken to be confused? Your Cult are the confused ones. Do you even know your present beliefs now with all these changes? Can you catch up? Many times we show you what your beliefs are, you deny them until we show you from your publications, you then run away like a disgraced fool!

You JWS are a disgrace! Here you are talking about conflicting doctrines when you JWs have a very bad record. Remember, when you people banned organ transplants, just imagine how many JWs died because of that. Pure Human Sacrifice! The punishment that is waiting for your Watchtower from Almighty God and Jesus is doing press up for shedding blood of Millions of JWS. Hypocrites. A surprise is waiting for you JWs From Jesus on judgement day. Jesus has not yet deemed you JWs Worthy yet, you are already boasting and making claims that disgrace you.

MightySparrow:
What is this one saying again?

Courz:
Every single Jehovah's Witness has doubts in their doctrines and their Way of doing things. Every single one.

Even Mad MaxinDhouse has his doubts but because of shame he won't admit it since he has used All his strength to promote this Cult. All it takes is for him to keep mixing with ExJWs they call Apostates as he is doing right now. If he keeps this up, he will join us soon. Many of his fellow JWs started this way and they ended up with us. The hold Watchtower has on most JWs is not that strong at this time. Little by little, they will join us. All those empty Kingdom halls, Assembly Halls and Bethel branches being sold didn't become empty for nothing. All those JWs that left started like Mad MaxinDhouse. Mad MaxinDhouse is already showing signs of cracks in his Faith. Soon, he will join us.

Courz awon WEREY dey para

He claims to know other people's thoughts.

Courz para mode,

MightySparrow:
Mal.3.6 - For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Jas.1.17 - Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Heb.13.8 - Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
All scriptures testify that God does not change: He does not grow older or younger, He does not grow weaker or stronger; He does not stop being merciful and compassionate, He has not stopped answering prayers

MightySparrow:
One errant organization thinks, they think for God. Who appointed you for that nonsense?!

MaxInDHouse:
Do believers in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob still pour animal blood on altars today?

That WEREY must present evidence of his animal sacrifice for his sin atonement.lets check something


Matthew 10:6 preaching to only the lost sheep of the house of Israel preaching to the most distant part of the earth in Acts 1:8 no dey him Bible.


That WEREY can never have peace.

Kingsnairaland:
God made water the same trinity waters is liquid water it solid ice water it gas water form

Kingsnairaland:
No where that shows father came into existence lol

God have always been there from eternity
God the father the Son the holy spirit

Have always been there have always existed

Kingsnairaland:
When Jesus died and rose up
he fulfilled his mission and went to the throne in heaven

From that point he became the greatest

Then from that point the father was so happy to live inside Jesus.

I told you learn English to find out which is higher

Greatest or greater

Kingsnairaland:
Lame question
When Bible said already

He is at the right hand
And right hand means the highest position
Which only God can stay

So Jesus is God almighty

pinkylovely:
I totally agree with you. Personally, I've figured that all denominations have core beliefs that are meant to convince their members that by being in their denomination, they're on the right track.

E.g Like the Church of Christ. I've attended church services there before.

However, I just love to be liberal with a lot of these things. I just only feel like the Jws are extremist when it comes to issues like this. I mean, a member can't decide to move to a different Christian denomination without being labelled as 'the one who left Jehovah'.

Plus the extreme discrimination of other denominations.

DemonSlayer:
My sister, I've never been a JW, but I understand your pain. Although our situations differ, I've had a similar journey out of faith, and I know how sad and draining it is to hide your authentic self and the questions that come with it. It’s exhausting to act a part in a community whose beliefs and values your heart is struggling to accept. I remember the turmoil—wishing my mind didn’t ask so many questions or pick things apart. People often act as if one just wakes up one morning with dead faith, but they don’t see the struggle to keep it alive, trying to address the questions that challenge it.

I’ve left (though not from JW), so I guess I’m a POMO and have become the black—or lost—sheep. I know my life would have been much easier if I’d stayed with the herd, but I’m more fulfilled living authentically, and I’m at peace.

I don’t wish for your journey to have the same destination as mine, but wherever it leads, don’t panic—you’ll be alright. And remember, you’re not strange for having doubts. Doubts are a sign of a healthy mind, capable of critical thinking. They’re something to be celebrated, not shamed. If you decide to step away, you’re not alone; there are millions of us like you, many of us doubling and tripling the freedom and joy in our hearts. If you decide to stay, it helps to find people you can share with authentically—like you’re already doing with this post—people who have gone through a similar phase and endured. Faith can be a powerful thing when it’s true, mature, and measured. Still, it’s okay to be the black sheep.

I wish you the best on your journey, and I hope wherever it leads is magnitudes better than where you started.

By the way, I was just wondering the other day—I haven’t seen any JW door-to-door evangelism or stands on the wayside in years! What happened? I kinda miss you guys.

DemonSlayer:
My sister, I've never been a JW, but I understand your pain. Although our situations differ, I've had a similar journey out of faith, and I know how sad and draining it is to hide your authentic self and the questions that come with it. It’s exhausting to act a part in a community whose beliefs and values your heart is struggling to accept. I remember the turmoil—wishing my mind didn’t ask so many questions or pick things apart. People often act as if one just wakes up one morning with dead faith, but they don’t see the struggle to keep it alive, trying to address the questions that challenge it.

I’ve left (though not from JW), so I guess I’m a POMO and have become the black—or lost—sheep. I know my life would have been much easier if I’d stayed with the herd, but I’m more fulfilled living authentically, and I’m at peace.

I don’t wish for your journey to have the same destination as mine, but wherever it leads, don’t panic—you’ll be alright. And remember, you’re not strange for having doubts. Doubts are a sign of a healthy mind, capable of critical thinking. They’re something to be celebrated, not shamed. If you decide to step away, you’re not alone; there are millions of us like you, many of us doubling and tripling the freedom and joy in our hearts. If you decide to stay, it helps to find people you can share with authentically—like you’re already doing with this post—people who have gone through a similar phase and endured. Faith can be a powerful thing when it’s true, mature, and measured. Still, it’s okay to be the black sheep.

I wish you the best on your journey, and I hope wherever it leads is magnitudes better than where you started.

By the way, I was just wondering the other day—I haven’t seen any JW door-to-door evangelism or stands on the wayside in years! What happened? I kinda miss you guys.

Sirmwill:
Jesus never , as in NEVER preached any denomination or any church.
He never commanded that you must go to a church or be identified with a particular denomination.

Instead he Preached the Kingdom of God and it's Righteousness.
A longer version of it is in Matthew and a Summarized version is in Luke 6 from around verse 20.

This exact things that Jesus commanded are directly not done by most denominations you know.

Infact, Jesus once prophesied that in the last days, people would no longer go to temples(churches) to worship God. Instead, they would worship God in truth and Spirit

Courz:
If you and Janosky continue doing this, you both will join us. [/b]Many of your members are in EXJW Reddit and other forums trying their best to campaign and promote Watchtower to the wrong people and guess what happened to them? They joined us. It may take years but you both will join us. Keep doing what you are doing.

jaephoenix:
I knew you'd be here.
So answer this. Why cant folks in your organization ask questions without being maligned?

MightySparrow:
Truth is bitter ọrẹ. In the kingdom of God not only JWs' will be there. When did JW start under Rutherford? Now your organization has discarded C T. Russell because of 'church' influence on his doctrine meaning the devotees under him are not under Jehovah's radar, gone forever.

Denomination doesn't matter, many more are springing up everyday with their variants and variations. So many irrelevant things have been built into Christian faith over the years. Only a liberal mind can separate the chaff from the real things.

They are so many of us on this platform that if we mentioned our churches, they are not known and even the founders. How many churches in Ghana, Kenya, Germany, South Korea do you want to criticize?
Those are irrelevant and beyond being tagged insincere.

Just stick with your organization and do your best bearing in mind that things change. So many adjustments have been done to your doctrines.
I remember being told by an RCCG's adherent, how the founder didn't allow offerings, forbad building cathedrals, telling his members that the end would come possibly before his death. We are still here. JWs are still telling us about Armageddon, in fact, my brother still mentioned it last week, the same way he did over thirty years ago.


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Brother, be zealous in your evangelism and mellow down on denominational criticism.

Peace.

1
Your Trinitarian gods of men made adjustments on their doctrines on tithes and offerings , they made adjustments & building cathedrals

Yet, you opened threads and posts bashing JW's.
Old age done dey give you sense small small.

2.
Bros, pls advice yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
Do JWs invite them before rushing into our posts?
They will cry tire because i will always expose them as evildoers hiding under God's organization!

pinkylovely:
Exactly. Every denomination/religion believes they're on the right track. Their members are mostly always convinced that they're on the right track.

1.
The problem with the JW denomination is, they never accept they have flaws yet would go ahead to criticize other denominations and label them 'Babylon the Great'.

I personally don't have issues with people holding on to their own 'truth', 2
but the moment there's the constant criticism against people of other denominations, it becomes annoying.

3.
E.g Years back, any brother who kept beards was regarded as a spiritually weak brother, oe who's interested in doing things of the world. You'll always hear 'em Jws say 'you're behaving like the wordly people'.

They'll heavily criticize denominations whose male members keep beards. Fast forward to today, brothers are now allowed to keep beards. So now, what really differentiates them from the 'wordly people'?

Religion is a problem.

1.
JW's have never claimed to be perfect.
You know that nau.

2.
Sparrow,Courz and their Crew opened multiple threads and posts WAILING about JW's as if we owe them their life force.


3. It's not an issue
Jehovah God is the Unchangeable Changer.
His people forbade pigs in the Mosaic Law but Peter received an adjustment of that teaching.
Today,bacon is a tasty delicacy.

Jesus was sent to preach to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
After his resurrection, the preaching work was to spread to the most distant part of the world.

MightySparrow:
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Dear friend, I have been consistent on this issue of 'truth'. Truth is not static. You take the truth according to the facts available to you. That is why we have personal truth, community truth, and verifiable truth (scientific) .

Nah now you know?

1 Corinthians 13:9, your own Bible says "our knowledge is not perfect."
Oga,Come and open thread WAILING about JW's.

MightySparrow:
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The more facts available to the PIMO, the more conviction they have to jettison the earlier truth the way you jettisoned the 'truth' of Islam. As for me, it is my personal truth that I can never accept a Jehovah who cannot heal. I have experience His healing and cannot deny it.

MightySparrow:
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What is keeping the PIMO in is shunning
. I remember talking to a Muslim friend about Jesus in my university days. He was convinced, but from kwara state, he told me that it was too risky for him to get out of Islam. I have, however met other ones who are bold as you were to come out of Islam.

MightySparrow:
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So they (PIMO) have the crisis of conscience.

PIMOs are not limited to Jehovah's Witnesses. They are everywhere.

MaxInDHouse:
Whether pimo or not we are all still professing God exist it's you who have no business being here!

Is this thread about atheism?
Bro, no mind that Amebo tatafo seeking for attention.

Any thread about JW's,we go chook mouth when and where necessary.

If our posts pain you, JW's owe no one any apologies.
To stop seeing our posts,Pls, go hug transformer tight.

GothamCities:
"For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool."

This is a direct Word that captures their actions so well, particularly janosky. Thanks for the Word!

johnw47:
most dum false accuser and liar and lost fraud jw janosky

you are so confused you don't understand much of what is said, do you

1. God's Son Jesus Christ is a messanger of God
2. some angelic beings are messengers of God
3. some human beings are messangers of God
4. messangers of God are both divine and human, oh dummy

Kingsnairaland:
The only way you can understand it is by answering that question I ask you

If not you will keep moving in a circle

You like to read only one part because you should have added where Jesus said
I and my father are one

NNTR:
I am sure you know that the Godhead is not restricted to the Trinitarian limit, so with that said, please for the moment, put on one side your new found love of Catholic New Jerusalem Bible at Psalms 45:6 & Hebrews 1:8, and now to the best of your understanding and considerable knowledge, dignify me please the sum of what God and/or god means in the context of Hebrews 1:8-9? (i.e. leave no stone unturned)

Thank you in advance for your humble, honest, mature and sincere answer

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Kingsnairaland:
Jesus is the truth and life itself

Jesus and the father are one

Kingsnairaland:
If you see Jesus you have seen the father
Because God the father is inside Jesus

Kingsnairaland:
Just like your soul and spirit is inside you

Glory

Soul is not inside man.

Not in any Bible, not in your Bible.

Ken4Christ:
What is your problem. Haven't you read that the fullnes of the Almighty God dwells in Jesus?

Jesus is the full expression of God in human flesh.

So, it awkward trying to separate him from the Father. They are separate persons but they function as one because none of them have their personal agenda.

Jesus only does what he sees his Father do. And the Holy Spirit of only speaks what he hears Jesus say.

kingsnairaland:
Now that we've established that, guess what? If Jesus is both the servant and the lord, guess what? Then He is also the one that was sent and the one that sent Himself. Glory! Yes. God can send Himself. I don't see why people find that so weird.

kingsnairaland:
Because this is not the first time God has done it. Psalm 104:30 (New King James Version) says, "You send forth Your Spirit, they are created; And You renew the face of the earth."

In Psalm 104:30, God sent His Holy Spirit, which is His Spirit, and accomplished what He wanted. And the Holy Spirit is God Himself; He is the Spirit of God Himself.

kingsnairaland:
Psalm 107:20 (New International Version) says, "He sent out his word and healed them; he rescued them from the grave." King James Bible says, "He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions."

So, John 1:1 tells us who the Word is that delivered us from the grave. The Word is Jesus Himself.

kingsnairaland:
But why did Jesus describe Himself as a servant? Why did Jesus describe Himself as someone that was sent? John 13:13-16 (New King James Version) says, "You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you."

It's simple. He tells you in between the two verses that I originally gave you. For I have given you an example that you should do as I have done to you. And what example was this? But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

And who are we supposed to serve exactly? And whosoever of you will be the chiefest shall be servant of all. That's right. If you want to be the greatest among all the disciples, you have to be the servant of all. Not just the servant, but one that serves.

That is the example that He gave us. For even the Son of Man came not to be ministered unto but to minister and to give His life a ransom for many.

The Father is greater than I. He's not talking about a different person. Or is He talking about a lower state?

Answer
That statement is there to show us the example that He left us.

And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be brought down, and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted

Glory
Bread Of Christ Power Church
Pastor Kingsley
Nigeria..

Kingsnairaland:
But how do we know this? It's below in Philippians 2:6-8 (King James Bible), which says, "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

But made himself of no reputation and took upon the form of a servant and was made in the likeness of man. The servant is not greater than his lord. Neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

"Thought it not robbery to be equal with God"

Oga,is that Trinitarian rendition conflicting with the teaching of Jesus @ John 14:28 & @ 1 Corinthians 11:3?
Oga,use the holy scriptures judge for yourself.

The question is would Jesus grasp equality which doesn't exist on earth @ John 14:28 & also which doesn't exist @ 1 Corinthians 11:3 in the spiritual realm?

Go to Bill Mounce Philippians 2:6 Greek interlinear bible & verify the truth.