"But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."
The verse above clearly prophesies about the Messiah, Jesus Christ and clearly states that His going forth is from EVERLASTING. That is to say, He is from eternity past. He has no beginning. Some translations translated the word 'owlams' as ancient times instead of Everlasting. However, META AI clarifies that the term 'Ancient Times" as used by some translators shouldn't be seen as a time calculated within the time of earth but that it means that Christ had been existing before time was created. I have attached a screenshot from Meta AI for your perusal.
I have also attached a screenshot from the original Hebrew Interlinear rendering of the verse. The Hebrew word OWLAMS actually means Everlasting. Jesus is from Everlasting. From eternity past. He had no beginning. The only person who has no beginning is God. Hence if Both God and the Messiah have no beginning, then God is the one who manifested Himself as the Messiah. This will make you understand why Jesus said "Before Abraham was, I am" - John 8:58.
No matter the scripture you may want to quote as a Jehovah Witness or as any other worshipper of some false gods, it does not negate the fact that Jesus was from Everlasting as stated in this scripture. Jesus is not Angel Michael. Jehovah Witnesses are peddlers of demonic doctrines. This verse further establishes the truth about the Trinity.
If you have not embraced Jesus, I admonish you to come to Jesus today. Do not listen to the lies of satan. Religion cannot save you. Only God can save you by Himself. And this God is He who manifested Himself to man through Jesus Christ the Savior. His hands are stretched forth today, "No one gets unto the Father except through Him" John 14:6. And be rest assured, anyone that comes to Him, He will in no wise cast out. John 6:37.
No one can save you from God's wrath which is coming upon this sinful world. Only God can, and He will do it through Jesus - the One who is from Everlasting to Everlasting.
Is that what the Hebrew text of Micah 5:2 said?
Which Hebrew man read Micah 5,:2 and came to the Trinitarian misinterpretation of that verse?
What is the meaning of the Hebrew word "Origin" @ Micah 5:2?
Meta A.I is not the Hebrew language text. Just continue TWISTING the holy scriptures and deceiving yourself. Martin Luther left the Catholic Church because among other issues,he found out from the scriptures that Jesus is archangel Michael. This belief was very popular among fervent Bible students in his era.
Your Trinitarian Bibles translations already knew that Jesus is the angel of Genesis 16:7.
johnw47: ecc_7:6 For as the crackl ing of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
lost blasphemer of The Holy Spirit, fraud jw janosky
God's word shows that The Holy Spirit spoke to philip and peter and john and all the apostles, to name some
Act 8:29 Then the Spirit said to Philip, "Go up and join this chariot."
John LYING miscreant,is Acts 8:26-29 in your Bible? The angel in verse 26 is the spirit who spoke to Philip in verse 29.
The conversation began in verse 26, John W stop LYING and deceiving yourself.
johnw47: Act 10:19 While Peter was reflecting on the vision, the Spirit said to him, "Behold, three men are looking for you.
Oga start studying Acts chapter 10 from verses 3-19. The angel in verse 3 is the same spirit in verse 19.
John LYING miscreant.
johnw47: Rev 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven, saying, "Write, 'Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on!'" "Yes," says the Spirit, "so that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow with them."
Revelation 1:1 God Jehovah gave the message to Jesus Christ who gave an angel to pass the message to John the apostle. The spirit speaking to John in chapter 14:13 is an angel. Angels were speaking from verses 3 in Revelation chapter 14.
John LYING miscreant.
johnw47: Joh 16:13 "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
[/quote]Greek John 16:13 lexicon, there is no "He" in that verse. Your English translators put "He" there because Paraclete is masculine gender in Greek language Oga, go and rest.
Stop LYING and deceiving yourself.
johnw47: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Confused John W LYING miscreant confused by Trinitarians.
Courz: b Your fellow JW Sister died even after being given Hemopure. She reacted badly to it and Died! Why?
. Baseless allegations. Oga,in which hospital? In which city? Where?
The evil agenda & propaganda of your WAILING WAILERS can not prevail.
Courz: Is that not proving the below statement to be true? When something is a Temporary solution as the screenshot puts it, is that a perfect solution?.
Courz you sacrifice your brain to IBERIBEISM.
ALL medications are temporary solutions for health challenges. When you have malaria you must go back to the medications you have been using before. If you get liver, can you swear that you never used any medication in 2024?
Courz: Your screenshot mentioned that Hemopure has not yet being approved by the FDA in the U.S. It is still undergoing Clinical trials. Do you know what that means? I don't think you do since you reason like an Illiterate that Watchtower wants you to be with their No University education Doctrine.
Courz Ozuo pro max. Courz You sacrifice your brain to IBERIBEISM.
Would HEMOPURE be sold or given to Courz a NOVICE & IBERIBEIST without any known medical professional training and expertise?
Courz MUMU WAILER inseparable from IBERIBEISM. What a dunce!!!
Courz: Mumu Janosky with your maggot infested brain, why did you remove this part below from your earlier screenshot that shows that Hemopure is not a perfect substitute for Blood? Why did you remove it? Look at the screenshot! It even says It is risky! and mentioned all the risks involved. You are blind to that abi?
Courz MUMU WAILING WAILER,is your preferred mode of medical treatment (BT) free from risks?
Is that Panadol you consume every day free from risks?
Courz You sacrifice your brain to IBERIBEISM. Know nothing dunce forming woke.
Courz: They are already beginning to face Lawsuits meaning more is to come. Some Lawsuits have already been made against your Governing body for Allowing Child Sexual abuse. Don't underestimate the judgement from God. You cannot mock God and go freely without consequences. You see the way the governments of the world are beginning to set their eyes on your Cult, it won't end. It will continue and progress to more serious allegations. The judgement from God waiting for your JW Leaders is serious because not only are they responsible for so many deaths, they have also led millions of JWS astray to become Goats instead of Jesus's Sheep who will inherit the Kingdom and rule with him.
I feel sorry for you because your ending is going to be very bad and you won't be able to do anything about it because it will be too late.
Real life Example of the Dangers of being a MUMU WAILING WAILER clinging tight to IBERIBEISM.- Courz off course!
Courz: These are the disadvantages of Alternatives to Blood Transfusion that Jehovah's Witness Leaders hide from them. They are quick and Eager to mention disadvantages of Blood Transfusion but they hid the ones for Alternatives so that Jehovah's Witnesses can continue dying as Sacrifices to Satan.
Courz read the screenshot evidence by Cleveland Clinic: "HEMOPURE save the life of a patient with Severe hemorrhage."
MightySparrow: The critics are your brothers who carried bags to peddle lies as you are doing now.
Why don't you face him?
Those critics are your crew members - disillusioned WAILING WAILERS peddling FALSE claims and narratives for their self serving myopic interests.
Go to Biblehub your Trinitarians website and check each of those alleged omissions and confirm it doesn't exists in the oldest Greek manuscripts.
Use the internet to discover the fact about Bible translations and Greek manuscripts. Oga, for once provide evidence of your intellectual and cognitive prowess.
The content of the Jehovah's witnesses's translation popularly known as the New Word Translation is actually doctored to pass across the message of the Governing Body of JW.Org rather than God's. The intent is to subtly deceive the teeming, unsuspecting, lazy devotees who take the doctrines of the organization line,hook, and sinker without any freedom to read any other books, since only the Governing Body is the only people who can understand the Bible The translators identity of the book have been shrouded in secrecy as well as their proficiency in the knowledge of Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek languages are not certified. The man behind the translation has only one thing in mind: to promote the teachings of the organization. The Jehovah's witnesses would tell you the identity of the translators are not necessary nor their knowledge of the original scripts. If the organization manipulates the word of God, how faithful is the organization?
The content of the Jehovah's witnesses's translation popularly known as the New Word Translation is actually to pass across the message of it's Author, Jehovah God.
Has Sparrow ever opened any thread to bash his mentors for their forgery of 1 John 5:7?
Sparrow & his crew are WAILING WAILERS desperate to bash JW's for his own self serving myopic interests.
His gods of men are selling their deities in a bottle for protection of their members (screenshot evidence). Did Sparrow open any thread to bash & criticize that satanic practice of his leaders & mentors? How many bottles for protection did Paul sell to believers?
Sparrow is inseparable from hypocrisy and IBERIBEISM.
The content of the Jehovah's witnesses's translation popularly known as the New Word Translation is actually doctored to pass across the message of the Governing Body of JW.Org rather than God's. The intent is to subtly deceive the teeming, unsuspecting, lazy devotees who take the doctrines of the organization line,hook, and sinker without any freedom to read any other books, since only the Governing Body is the only people who can understand the Bible The translators identity of the book have been shrouded in secrecy as well as their proficiency in the knowledge of Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek languages are not certified. The man behind the translation has only one thing in mind: to promote the teachings of the organization. The Jehovah's witnesses would tell you the identity of the translators are not necessary nor their knowledge of the original scripts. If the organization manipulates the word of God, how faithful is the organization?
The content of the Jehovah's witnesses's translation popularly known as the New Word Translation is actually to pass across the message of it's Author, Jehovah God.
Has Sparrow ever opened any thread to bash his mentors for their forgery of 1 John 5:7?
Sparrow & his crew are WAILING WAILERS desperate to bash JW's for self serving myopic interests.
His gods of men are selling their deities in a bottle for protection of their members (screenshot evidence). Did Sparrow open any thread to bash & criticize that satanic practice of his leaders & mentors? How many bottles for protection did Paul sell to believers?
Sparrow is inseparable from hypocrisy and IBERIBEISM.
When someone's theology is wrong his thinking will be wrong, his values will be wrong, his expectations will be wrong, his actions will be wrong, he becomes a wrong person altogether.
When Sparrow's theology is wrong his thinking will be wrong, his values will be wrong, his expectations will be wrong, his actions will be wrong, he becomes a wrong person altogether.
Sparrow,Congrats on the blatant exposure of your folly and IBERIBEISM. LYING miscreant wey no dey do research.
MightySparrow: The Bible of the Jehovah's Witnesses is not a translation nor a commentary but reworded to suit the strange teachings that make the organization a 'special people ' How can discreet slaves twist the message of their Master and still claim to be faithful?
The Bible's NWT is a work of scholarly research used by JW's,who also use ALL Bibles too.
Screenshot evidences of Acts 15:34 proven that Sparrow is motivated by hatred against JW's and spreading his falsehood & deceiving gullible folks on this forum.
Shame on you Sparrow exposing your IBERIBEISM.
Sparrow no dey do research but him love to exhibit show his illiteracy on this forum.
Bible scholars admitted that Acts 15:34 is NOT in the oldest Greek manuscripts.
Likewise other verses not in the NWT, those verses are not in the extant Greek manuscripts. NWT is a work of scholarly research.
Has Sparrow ever opened any thread to bash his mentors who committed the forgery of 1 John 5:7 KJV?
Has Sparrow Has Sparrow ever opened any thread to bash his mentors who removed 'Gehenna' from the gospels of Matthew, Mark ,Luke & in James 3:6?
When someone's theology is wrong his thinking will be wrong, his values will be wrong, his expectations will be wrong, his actions will be wrong, he becomes a wrong person altogether.
When Sparrow's theology is wrong his thinking will be wrong, his values will be wrong, his expectations will be wrong, his actions will be wrong, he becomes a wrong person altogether.
Sparrow,Congrats on the blatant exposure of your folly and IBERIBEISM. LYING miscreant wey no dey do research.
MightySparrow: The Bible of the Jehovah's Witnesses is not a translation nor a commentary but reworded to suit the strange teachings that make the organization a 'special people ' How can discreet slaves twist the message of their Master and still claim to be faithful?
The Bible's NWT is a work of scholarly research used by JW's,who also use ALL Bibles too.
Screenshot evidences of Acts 15:34 proven that Sparrow is motivated by hatred against JW's and spreading his falsehood & deceiving gullible folks on this forum.
Shame on you Sparrow exposing your IBERIBEISM.
Sparrow no dey do research but him love to exhibit show his illiteracy on this forum.
Bible scholars admitted that Acts 15:34 is NOT in the oldest Greek manuscripts.
Likewise other verses not in the NWT, those verses are not in the extant Greek manuscripts. NWT is a work of scholars research.
Has Sparrow ever opened any thread to bash his mentors who committed the forgery of 1 John 5:7 KJV?
Has Sparrow Has Sparrow ever opened any thread to bash his mentors who removed 'Gehenna' from the gospels of Matthew, Mark ,Luke & in James 3:6?
When someone's theology is wrong his thinking will be wrong, his values will be wrong, his expectations will be wrong, his actions will be wrong, he becomes a wrong person altogether.
When Sparrow's theology is wrong his thinking will be wrong, his values will be wrong, his expectations will be wrong, his actions will be wrong, he becomes a wrong person altogether.
Sparrow,Congrats on the blatant exposure of your folly and IBERIBEISM. LYING miscreant wey no dey do research.
MightySparrow: The Bible of the Jehovah's Witnesses is not a translation nor a commentary but reworded to suit the strange teachings that make the organization a 'special people ' How can discreet slaves twist the message of their Master and still claim to be faithful?
The Bible's NWT is a work of scholarly research used by JW's,who also use ALL Bibles too.
Screenshot evidences of Acts 15:34 proven that Sparrow is motivated by hatred against JW's and spreading his falsehood & deceiving gullible folks on this forum.
Shame on you Sparrow exposing your IBERIBEISM.
Sparrow no dey do research but him love to exhibit show his illiteracy on this forum.
Bible scholars admitted that Acts 15:34 is NOT in the oldest Greek manuscripts.
Likewise other verses not in the NWT, those verses are not in the extant Greek manuscripts. NWT is a work of scholars research.
Has Sparrow ever opened any thread to bash his mentors who committed the forgery of 1 John 5:7 KJV?
Has Sparrow Has Sparrow ever opened any thread to bash his mentors who removed 'Gehenna' from the gospels of Matthew, Mark ,Luke & in James 3:6?
Courz: So, why did one of your JW sister react to Hemopure and died in the process? Why is Hemopure regarded as not a perfect substitute for Blood by Health Professionals? Why didn't you show the part of your screenshot where they mentioned this? Who do you think you are deceiving here? You think I have forgotten the screenshot you posted the last time? Remember, I showed you how stupid you were for posting a screenshot that proves me right. Remember, your screenshot proved me right by saying that Hemopure is not a perfect substitute for Blood and it can fail. This means It can't replace Blood Transfusion! You Remember, right? Don't be stupid. Don't try this nonsense again or I will disgrace you
Did your Freemason Governing body tell you JWs the truth about Disadvantages of Alternatives to Blood? If Alternatives work, why are you JWs still dying with some of you choosing to take Blood secretly?
According to medical professionals testifying in medical journals,Oga does HEMOPURE safe lives?
The medical professionals mentioned the hospitals they treated their patients and saved lives by administering HEMOPURE.
Which hospital did your MUMU WAILING WAILER crew member said his friend was treated?
You carry fake story of disillusioned WAILING WAILERS LYING miscreant to console your IBERIBEISM on this forum.
achorladey: Jesus didn't mention any group, that group think originate from your madness and insanities peddling brains fused with lies and manipulations packed into it by your GODS.
Jesus didn't present any group to those he met on earth. Bring another point and it will get shut down. By the way this is a thread your so called being an elder in the community of delusion should not be marking attendance but I know your agenda cannot allow the lies and manipulations about your religious get exposed here without your colouration
Harley, his 3 deities devotee referenced Genesis and Hebrews in the holy scriptures,"God has an organization". But,MUMU WAILER been WAILING in denial .
"It seems to me from various scriptures God has an organization.
In Genesis, He talks to someone about Adam and Eve “becoming like us”.....God had given Adam and Eve responsibility to manage earth. This is delegation in an organizational sense.
In Heb 2, several statements about Jesus and humans make reference to, “a little lower than angels”. This indicates a hierarchy, another organizational feature. And fully human Jesus is definitely above humans".
MUMU WAILER breed to MUMU & IBERIBEISM shut down his thinking cap. Awon WEREY independent thinking.
Courz: You dey see am now. He is speechless. What else can he say? This thread is proof that their No Blood Transfusion Doctrine is a Scam! It is not practical at all without Blood. The summary of everything we are saying here is We Humans cannot Live without Blood whether their Freemason Governing body likes it or not! The rest of the world survive by Blood. Jehovah's Witnesses need Blood to get Alternatives to Blood treatments. When the treatment fails as shown in this JW Lady's experience, Blood is the answer!
LYING miscreant glued to IBERIBEISM and delusion can never stand against confirmed scientific evidence of medical professionals who knows their onions. Screenshot evidences plenty
MaxInDHouse: Beware of APOSTATES because they hate truth so they go about telling lies against God's servants because the true servants of God don't allow them to prey on faithful people!
Any man who always spends his time, money and energy to abuse, denigrate , insult and defame his former partner he called off their relationship, that man has deep seated very, serious personality flaws and very seriously ment.
That abusive man is largely responsible for the breakup of the relationship, no matter their excuses on social media or this forum to polish their own image and play the victim card. Apostates are WAILING WAILERS whose motive is very vindictive,malicious & hatred for JW's. . That is what Apostates do.
Their evil motives exposes their folly and fictitious claim of following the right path. (How does hatred for JW's translate to your following the right path?) You can not claim to love God whom you can not see & use this forum spread abuse,hatred against JW's whom you see. John the apostle made that point clearly .
Your ex won't ever be perfect, but deserves a part on the back for putting up with the toxic WAILING WAILER who left the relationship. Like wise, JW's deserve commendation for putting up with an abusive vindictive person with deep seated personality flaws with over bloated ego of self importance. Apostates are sifia pained WAILING WAILERS.
TenQ: You cannot claim that which is grossly an error: it is a fallacy.
Insisting and repeating 1000 times that a goat is a celestial angel does not change anything.
The Holy Spirit of God was replaced and interchanged by your Antichrist's spirit as a mere active force. Yet, the Holy Spirit of God is Living in the Scripture.
Please, I don't want to waste my time with you. Go study your bible without the pollution of your Antichrists
What is the meaning of "hand of God" in your Bible?
Holy spirit is God's finger/hand of God. Yes, active force.
TenQ: But according to you, the Holy Spirit is NOT living, how can that which is not living nor have a mind according to your Antichrists?
I forgot that these same Antichrists interpreted the bible for you Acts 8:29: "The Holy Spirit said to Philip, "Go over and walk along beside the carriage."
Act 13:2: "And as they were ministering and fasting to the Lord, the Holy Spirit said, “Separate both Barnabas and Saul to Me for the work to which I have called them.”"
Eph 4:30: "And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby you are sealed to the day of redemption."
Anyone who does not have the Holy Spirit in him is not of Christ sir
BTW: Do you admit that Jesus was speaking NOT in terms of servitude to a group of people but of being good to your neighbours. So when you feed your neighbour or visit them or help them, Jesus says it is Him you do such good for!
Luke 12:20 & Matthew 11:28, Exodus 8:13,Ephesians 4:30, do you grieve God's finger?
Shebi you are wiser than Jesus Christ?
You and your mentors smuggled & ADDED "holy" into Acts 8:29.
The angel in Acts 8:26 is the same spirit speaking to Philip in verse 29.
Angel is not holy spirit. TenQ,You are TWISTING the holy scriptures.
NairaLTQ: So, you are not different from all the religions you claim preach their own messages. And it doesn't matter how you feign to be of light, we know your source to be of the Antichrist who are wolves in sheep skin. My problem is that you members usually know the truth after you die and it's too late.
Oga, you don't know Christ.
You no dey study John 5:28-29 & Acts 24:15 in your Bible?
MightySparrow: The 1914 of JW organization is one of the central doctrines being touted by the adherents of the religion. This doctrine and date are not without their own challenges within the organization itself. Many brave members have left the organization willingly, some timid ones, because of shunning, remain imprisoned in their consciousness, and many have been disfellowshipped.
In spite of the clear evidences against the date and scriptures twists and inferences, the Governing Body would rather provide a 'New Light/Lie' to massage the doubts of delusional followers.
Where is the scriptural evidence for what you're doing in your business franchise operated by pulpit bandits your God receiving tithes & selling your deity packaged in a bottle?
Wetin JW's believe about 1914 is not your business. .
TotoNaRubber: Hello, I want to know if there is any Nigerian pastor who is genuine for a percentage of tithe on N50 million. A friend of mine is seriously looking for a good pastor to pay the tithes.
Please comment the name and account numbers below.
OP, study your Bible,1 Corinthians 11:1. Ask yourself: Did Jesus pay tithes? No
Paul the apostle practiced what Jesus taught him.
To Whom did Paul pay tithes? None!
Pls share that money equally to buy food items and provisions for orphanages and motherless babies homes in your place of residence. Follow Jesus instructions at Matthew 6:1-6 & pls do it low key without attracting attention to yourself or your benevolence.
MightySparrow: That is the reason you are encouraged to develop the gifts of the Spirit one of which is discerning of spirits. Christianity is a practical religion not mere quoting scriptures, and doing damage to scriptures producing faithless folks. If you allow the Spirit of God to take ascendance in your life, you will have the experience not the argument.
The screenshot is the results of Sparrow discerning the gifts of the spirit.
Buying his deity in a bottle for protection whereas well armed body guards prevent Sparrow's access to his pulpit bandits.
johnw47: hypercritical fraud jw janosky always says the Christians here are wailing, which of course is not true, but they just love to lie constantly, false Jw himself screams out his wailings in bold
the devil has blinded them
Deluded WAILER John MUMU, you are under the thumb of these people in the screenshot whether you admit or deny them.
MightySparrow: maximumSide is deluded in arrogance and ignorance. He forgets that if someone's theology is wrong, his reasoning will be wrong, his values will be wrong, his actions will be wrong, and ultimately, he becomes a wrong person altogether. So, the JWs doctrines have badly affected him. He cannot see manipulations of his GB. That is why JWs claim to be the imperfect, perfect organization.
Sparrow WAILING WAILER deluded by his pulpit bandits (in the screenshot), the God he pays tithes to. Nah Sparrow dey accuse another person whereas he's not free from delusion.
MightySparrow: So, you have not made any meaningful contributions here.
Similar thing happened to Paul on his way to Rome and both Angel and Spirit attended to him.
So if you say the angel appeared to Philip, he certainly must have seen the spirit.
Stop LYING Oga Sparrow. Acts 8:26-29 exposed your FALSE claims. Philip might have seen the angel who instructed him to meet the Ethiopian . Angel is not holy spirit don't get it twisted. Your Bible did not say anything about Philip seeing holy spirit.
MightySparrow: The question still remains: of all the essence referred to as spirits including God (Jehovah) are beings. Why is it that the JW's Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost is the only influence not a being whereas other spirits are beings?
Simple question not wailing.
Jehovah God is a spirit person. Did Jehovah God have one on one conversation with Moses? Exodus 3:4-15,Oga Sparrow go & confirm that.
Did Jesus a spirit person have one on one conversation with Saul? Acts 9:3-9,Oga Sparrow go & confirm that.
Angels are spirit persons. Did angels have one on one conversation with believers? Angel Gabriel @Luke 1:26-38.
Jehovah is a person. Jesus is a person. Angels are persons. Confirmed by your Bible. *2 questions for Sparrow: Oga Sparrow, which believers in your own Bible had one on one conversation with holy spirit? I challenge you to present the evidence.
*2 Going by Sparrow logic, Did believers drink a person @1 Corinthians 12:13? .
MightySparrow: Simple the passage you qouted refer the same event.
Acts.8.26 - And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. Acts.8.29 - Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. Acts.8.39 - And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
1. Angel of the Lord is a spirit. 2. Angel of the Lord is a being 3. The Spirit ( possibly the Angel) and or Holy Spirit 4. The Angel or the Spirit carried Philip away.
. It's important to remind Sparrow of the LYING and FALSE claims he made on page 2 of this thread:
Sparrow post :
7[i]. Acts.8.29 - [b]Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
The Spirit talked, not inspire, talked to Philip." [/i] Sparrow,is holy spirit an angel? No, definitely not . Oga,Your LYING has caught up with you.