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kandiikane:me too, only that i want to help my pocket for few years first, then I can begin to help frica |
Knew him from his OAU Ife days too. He was in final year when I was a jambite. I even know his favourite reading spot(inside bush, in Central Mosque ). He was an effico. Needless to say he made a First Class in Computer Engineering. |
Got this from somewhere, and I think it explains the MISPLACED anger and all that is wrong ABOUT THE IGNORANT DISENCHANTMENT with the Islamic Banking proclamation in Nigeria. WHO'S AFRAID OF ISLAMIC BANKING? By UCHE EZECHUKWU First and foremost, I must apologize to my readers for not bringing the concluding part of the piece I started last week on the Nigeria Police. I had to postpone it because of some developments in the polity, which, as I sincerely believe, have the potential of ballooning into untoward outcomes, if not promptly addressed. I stumbled on a story in the online edition of the Vanguard and which bothered me greatly and should bother other Nigerians of conscience. The story in question was that the Delta State chapter of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN), led by its chairman, Archbishop God-do-well Avwomakpa, marched through the major streets of Warri last Thursday, protesting the authorization of Islamic banking by the CBN in the country. The story further highlighted the interview granted by the bishop during which he reportedly declared that the introduction of Islamic banking in the country was a prelude to the Islamization of the country. He was further quoted as saying that “the church is aware of the dangers that this issue is going to cause and we are not going to compromise our faith as Christians. Nigeria belongs to all of us and we are saying ‘No’ to Islamization of Nigeria.” Before I go further, I insist that from what I know of the universal Catholic Church to which I belong and which is the largest denomination of CAN, the Delta chairman could not have been speaking for us, not even for the Catholics and the other orthodox communions in that state, because I know the channels of our communication and our church does not engage in rabble-rousing. Again, I must blame the CBN for its culpable assumption that the Islamic banking system which has been in operation in many more advanced and more secular countries like UK, USA, France, South Africa, etc, without affecting or altering the lifestyle or secularity of those societies, could be introduced into Nigeria without adequate enlightenment. It was an unpardonable miscalculation which has enabled both the little informed and outright mischievous elements in our midst to seek undeserved relevance by misinforming Nigerians on the whys and wherefores of the system which has found acceptance in the places where it has been in practice. Having said that, it is rather unfortunate that in these days when knowledge and information are at the beck and call of all, it is a great disservice for some people in privileged positions to indulge in outright falsification of issues that are capable of causing social dislocation especially if the correct sides of the case are not accurately and dispassionately presented. For the avoidance of doubt, it is obvious that those leaders who are leading their followers to believe that the Islamic banking system would Islamize the polity, should have also recalled that the many Christian universities that have been licensed by the NUC as businesses and bearing such explicit names and Catholic University, etc, have not been accused of Christianizing the polity. For, how can a business concern which does not exercise any coercive authority over any of his customers, make its customers to adopt its beliefs? And why has the CBN which has exercised the responsibility to regulate and provide guidelines for all other forms of banking operations: commercial, merchant, community, micro, mortgage, etc, in the past, should now become culpable because it also produced guidelines for the establishment and operation of the Islamic interest-free banking system, which is another banking format? For even when those banks take off, it is not likely they would have the word “Islamic” prefixed to their names. And even if they did, would it not be similar to the many businesses owned by the different faith-based organisations? Yes, a mischievous mind might find it convenient to manipulate the emotive sentiments of religion to draw attention to him or herself, but that fact should not remove the fact that the introduction of any system that would bring about some salutary influences into our economy should be welcome. Yes, the Islamic banking system seeks to run its banks along the Islamic jurisprudence – simply put, along the prescription of the Sharia laws. The most prominent feature of the Islamic banking is in the absence of interests (riba) in accordance of the Koranic prohibition of usury. Significantly, the Jewish code or the Torah (the Old Testament of the Bible) is also against usury. And if their religion demands that a Muslim’s life should be ordered along the dictates of the Sharia, should the Muslims who constitute half of the national population be denied the type of banking institution that caters for their religious belief? As a Nigerian, is the Muslim not entitled to the unfettered practice of his religion? The proposed Islamic banks would be privately owned and not by the government and such specialised financial institutions would be expected run their businesses along the dictates of the guidelines setting them up, which is mainly that, anybody who agrees to abide by those codes would be welcome to do business with them. How would their operations affect anybody who does not paronize them? So, what is the cause of all these needless hues and cries which are more out of mischief than culpable ignorance? The ownership of banks like other businesses, as schools, is totally deregulated but run under set-down guidelines by the relevant laws and regulations. Many Christian-based organisations have applied for and were licensed by the appropriate authorities to run schools and universities. Even though these academic institutions have the greater capacity of influencing those who pass through their portals, their existence or sectarian ownership has never been challenged by any quarters – Christian or Muslim. The universities and colleges throw their gates open to all those who agree to abide by their ordinances and prescriptions as nobody is, ab initio, never coerced into enrolling into them. For instance, Muslim students who attend Catholic schools alongside my daughters, while being allowed to observe their Islamic faith, are nevertheless compelled to obey the basic demands of Christian life, which they had been made aware of before being enrolled. So, I as a Catholic decide to patronize an Islamic bank, I should have become aware that the Sharia demands that I cannot expect the bank to grant me loans to run businesses that are haram to the Islamic faith. For instance, I cannot expect to obtain a loan from there to run a newspaper that would advertize alcoholic beverages or pork products. In the same way, I cannot expect to obtain a loan from an Islamic bank to run gambling operations or hotels that peddle alcohol or operate a brothel. More importantly, these banks do not put a gun on my head to use their services, nor would they turn me away because I am not a Muslim, provided I sign up to adhere to its provisions. How, therefore, could one branch of an Islamic bank at Onitsha, Aba or Enugu have the capacity to Islamize the Igbo society? Having provided these rudimentary facts on the Islamic banking, it then becomes unfortunate that anybody or group should want to over-heat the polity because of the introduction of a banking system that has absolutely no adverse effect on the society, both on the short and long run. One would have thought that if there are Christian leaders who feel envious that banks are established along Islamic religious codes, they should hasten to establish their own variants which would use their enormous riches garnered though huge tithes and offerings of the millions of their adherents. After all, recent studies by a reputed international publication named four Nigerian pastors as among the richest in the world. Such a move which could provide the much hankered-after economic succour to their long-basic demands of Christian life, which they had been made aware of before being enrolled. So, I as a Catholic decide to patronize an Islamic bank, I should have become aware that the Sharia demands that I cannot expect the bank to grant me loans to run businesses that are haram to the Islamic faith. For instance, I cannot expect to obtain a loan from there to run a newspaper that would advertize alcoholic beverages or pork products. In the same way, I cannot expect to obtain a loan from an Islamic bank to run gambling operations or hotels that peddle alcohol or operate a brothel. More importantly, these banks do not put a gun on my head to use their services, nor would they turn me away because I am not a Muslim, provided I sign up to adhere to its provisions. How, therefore, could one branch of an Islamic bank at Onitsha, Aba or Enugu have the capacity to Islamize the Igbo society? Having provided these rudimentary facts on the Islamic banking, it then becomes unfortunate that anybody or group should want to over-heat the polity because of the introduction of a banking system that has absolutely no adverse effect on the society, both on the short and long run. One would have thought that if there are Christian leaders who feel envious that banks are established along Islamic religious codes, they should hasten to establish their own variants which would use their enormous riches garnered though huge tithes and offerings of the millions of their adherents. After all, recent studies by a reputed international publication named four Nigerian pastors as among the richest in the world. Such a move which could provide the much hankered-after economic succour to their long- It would be necessary at this juncture to insist that the religious leaders – Christian and Muslim – should desist from misleading their followers by inciting them against fellow Nigerians who adhere to different faiths through half baked instructions which are often programmed to produce less than godly objectives. I do not know what punishment Islam prescribes for such serious misdemeanours but I know that Jesus Christ, whom I profess, prescribes that such people deserve to have big boulders of stone tied around their necks and dumped into the depth of the ocean. Moreover, God says in the Bible that, “my people perish for lack of knowledge” It is, therefore, sinful for any religious leader to hide the truth from his followers; it is even worse for him to manipulate the ignorance of such followers. At the end of the end of the day, who is really afraid of this Islamic banking? Is it those on whose consciences it weighs heavily? Actually, a true Christian should not fight against any trend which he thinks that threatens his faith, because as we are told, if it is of God, nothing can stop it, but if not, it will self-destruct and fade away. The greatest proof of that is Communism which raged worldwide like an all-consuming fire only to die as it had started, unsung, less than a century later. Nigeria belongs to all of us – and it is in God’s wisdom that he put both Christians and Muslims into his space, for cohabitation. Let us not play God, but always give peace a chance. That,to my understanding is the cardinal tenet of Christianity – to live and to let live. http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/columnists/capital%20matters/2011/capital-matters-july-04-2011.html |
Pafuri:What's the difference between MD and CEO sir? |
Does the fact that they are pastors means we should join them to embrace the Islamic banking craze?Whether we like it or not, a Pastor-run bank being the first conventional bank to grab the Islamic banking opportunity tells a message: that they are looking beyond religion, but economic benefits. If it was Unity Bank that first adopted, me and you the message people will read to it. |
He's Yoruba guy from Ogun state, but pls let's take tribe out of this. |
otondo55:if you think you know more than stanbic management, then God help you as you revel in your ignorance. These are people that have the market knowledge in their heads and according to what I heard, have been researching Islamic banking for more than 2 years, yet in your bigoted 'expertise' you are advising them not to adopt something they would not have if they had not done their analysis. You think those people think the way you think. |
Who's afraid of Islamic banking? A christian igbo contributes: http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/columnists/capital%20matters/2011/capital-matters-july-04-2011.html |
Who's afraid of Islamic banking? A Christian igbo writes: http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/columnists/capital%20matters/2011/capital-matters-july-04-2011.html |
I knew the I'd will surely be revealed but just held on to add suspense to the thread. It's LOMA. |
In fact, Sola David Borha and Yinka Sanni (MD and DMD respectively of Stanbic) are Pastors. These are people thatcan identify the opportunity. |
I will reveal his NL identitY only if he gives his consent. |
Congrats as you add another award to your already long list of medals, winning Huffpost Greatest Person of the Day. Continue to strive for the emergence of a better Africa. We are all supporting you. Knowing you from your Ife days, I have never doubted your potential. Your contributions on Nairaland here, though few, are always loaded, |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/05/huffpost-greatest-person-of-day_n_890504.html While speaking with Idris Bello and hearing about his numerous accomplishments, one begins to feel a bit lazy in comparison. Though he only just graduated from Rice University's business school, Bello has amassed a laundry list of awards and fellowships that barely fit on one page. But for this self-proclaimed "Afropreneur," the grants and awards are only the tip of the iceberg. Bello has also been instrumental in creating a staggering number of organizations that aim to make Africa more self-sufficient, a goal he has had since he arrived in the U.S from Nigeria to attend the University of Houston in 2004. There's the Next Cool Idea program, which funds unique proposals from Rice students and alumni, the Wennovation Hub, which supports West African startups and small businesses, and AfyaZima Africa, which Bello co-founded to provide sustainable health technologies for the developing world. "I do a lot of things," Bello said, laughing as he acknowledged his hectic schedule. "But I'm lucky enough to have these opportunities, so I give back. You have to give back." For Bello, who lost two of his siblings to health problems when he was very young, the chance to "give back" to Nigeria and the African people never used to be an option. From the moment he arrived in the U.S., he knew he'd be working toward that goal. But a recent project has hit especially close to home. "My dad was a university librarian," Bello said. "And I remember growing up he always said, 'Never get caught without a book.'" When two Rice architecture students, David and Rachel Dewane, came to Bello with the idea for Libraries Across Africa, they weren't aware of the personal connection it had for him. "They had no connection with Africa, no business experience, and they came over to the business school to look for people who might know how to do business in Africa," Bello said. "I knew what life was like at most of the libraries over there, [with] just one textbook for thousands of students in a reference section." The goal of the program was simple: "empower individuals through access to information." By establishing low-cost infrastructure for libraries and connecting people directly with computer training, even the poorest communities can become more self-sustaining. The team drummed up a plan and a mission statement, and took its proposal to business competitions across the country to try to raise the necessary funding. "Right now, less than 10 percent of Africans have access to the internet," Bello said. "Africa's problems will not [be] solved by governments. There is a new wave of young men and women, and they will be enabled by more global networks." Bello explained that there's not always an easily accessible location for young Africans to meet and discuss ideas, to utilize everything people in the U.S. take for granted on the Web. These libraries can also serve as their de facto "Starbucks," or their "FedEx Kinko's," as he put it. Africans need to become more self-sustaining, and should be fully aware of the world outside their own villages, he said. "A lot of U.S. future enterprises depend on Africa," Bello said. "Many people don't realize that it is all intertwined -- good health, businesses, and education." Bello is adamant that the last thing Africa needs is more monetary support. "Africa does not want aid anymore! Aid is great, you give aid, a very small percentage goes to the people, the rest goes somewhere else." "People need to be independent," he said. "Africa is ready to solve their own problems." Bello is also involved in a program that seeks to develop mobile apps for small businesses in Nigeria, and another that enables doctors to do lab tests in malaria-stricken communities without a stable power supply. And the Libraries Across Africa program just won a $10,000 grant from the Dell Social Innovation Competition. "Africa needs support, they need partnership," Bello said. "Let's empower them." |
Very soon some people will come to NL to ask what their father's name is. |
The banks you owned abi? |
By Shari-compliant, I hope you are not thinking it means the loan parties adopting Islamic way of life or subjecting to Islamic punishment system, because that is what many people think of when they hear sharia. By Sharia-compliant transaction is meant there will be no interest on the loan, both the loan giver and taker will agree on what purpose the loan is to be used for and how profit or loss on the use of that loan will be shared by both parties. Of course, if you want to invest the money in alcohol or gambling, Islamic banking is not where you go. That is the Sharia-compliance. It doesn't go beyond there. If you like, drink alcohol in your private life, it's none of the bank's business. Defaulting doesn't also mean you will be subject to Sharia legal system. There is also the. Non-Islamic non-interest window, to be offered by Non-Islamic banks, in which case the issue of alcohol and other Sharially unethical investments can be waived, and absence of interest will be the only similarity with the Islamic model. |
Not surprised at StanbicIBTC quickly grabbing the window. If I was asked to predict, I would have predicted stanbic, and maybe GT, as banks to quickly adopt. I'm sure Stanbic would have adopted it if the regulatory framework had existed years ago. They pioneered ethical investment in Nigeria far back 1997 or so) and their ethical fund is one of the leadiing and earliest in Nigeria. I have never doubted ANAP's business sense. I see GTB also following suit soon. As for the bail-out question, Islamic banking is not for Muslims only. Also note that Muslims also pay tax. But more importantly, Islamic banking is more of an alternative banking option than religious, even though derived from religious principle. If not so, Islamic Finance will not be treated as part of Economics, rather than religious study, in wstern economic discourses/schools. Islamic banking has trascended religion, it's Islam's gift to economics. We should look beyond religion in Nigeria too. |
Not surprised at StanbicIBTC quickly grabbing the window. If I was asked to predict, I would have predicted stanbic, and maybe GT, as banks to quickly adopt. I'm sure Stanbic would have adopted it if the regulatory framework had existed years ago. They pioneered ethical investment in Nigeria far back 1997 or so) and their ethical fund is one of the leadiing and earliest in Nigeria. I have never doubted ANAP's business sense. I see GTB also following suit soon. As for the bail-out question, Islamic banking is not for Muslims only. Also note that Muslims also pay tax. But more importantly, Islamic banking is more of an alternative banking option than religious, even though derived from religious principle. If not so, Islamic Finance will not be treated as part of Economics, rather than religious study, in wstern economic discourses/schools. Islamic banking has trascended religion, it's Islam's gift to economics. We should look beyond religion in Nigeria too. |
I don know much about their exemption, you can get that from their website. |
dayokanu:Our head dey there ![]() |
mbulela:Pay your lateness fine first, then we will start having educated argument ![]() |
If you also notice, teh writer did not introduce Nairaland, for instance, say something like 'a commenter in one poupular Nigerian website, Nairaland'. He mentioned Nairaland straight away, meaning he assumed, rightly, that Nairaland is too popular in Nigeria not to be known by internet savvy person or even person literate enough to read him in newspaper. Five years ago, you cant quote nairaland without devoting at least one line to explain what you mean. Today, when quote google, facebook, wikipedia, you don't need to tell readers what it is. That is exactly the implication of mentioning NL on that assumption. |
ultim:Co-signed. |
wesley80:I'm insinuating: if we(all stakeholders: Admin, Mods, members) manage it well. |
This glaring. Is it IBB or Obj that you want to compare him with? Or even Yakubu Gowon, though not much is known about Gowon's wealth too? There are gossips about AbdulSalam's wealth too, but not as glaring as that of IBB and Obj, but if house is any criteria, the Abdus Salam's Minna Hilltop House also makes a statement about his money, at least more than Buhari. |
Source: Thisday Backpage, Today: http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/cbn-set-to-develop-its-own-poultry-farm/94427/ Being one of the greatest defenders of Sanusi on Nairaland, this is not a cheery article for me. But being a proud Nairalander, I feel happy Nairaland is gradually taking its place as source of materials for newspaper commentators. Comments here are now being quoted to buttress opinions in national dailies. I don't know whether this writer is a Nairalander, or a visitor or just bumped into the quoted comments through google search. But whatever the case, Nairaland will soon become the go-to for policy evaluation discourses in Nigeria, if well managed. |
CBN Set to Develop Its Own Poultry Farmhttp://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/cbn-set-to-develop-its-own-poultry-farm/94427/ |
I was totally dumbfounded while watching the ministerial screening on thursday.And a critic who can't spell 'grammar'! |
![]() Ok, na me write am. Thread moved to Jokes |
Was any Ayelobola your classmate in electricity engineering dept at Unilorin? |
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). He was an effico. Needless to say he made a First Class in Computer Engineering.