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Having said that, I have no regret sending you that mail. I asked you what your problem was for always stalking me around since 2008 and always hastily jumping into conclusion about me without verifications, which have always turned into false. Out of your hasty, curious conclusions about me, you have had to apologize to me in the past after thinsg became clear to you: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=501959.msg6626874#msg6626874

You have confirmed on the forum in the past that anytime you open the forum you check my latest posts, I don't have problem with that, after all I also do same for the iconoclastic becomrich anytime I want to have a good laugh, but my issue with you is always blowing trivias beyond proportion as if I snatched your wife, as well as imputing religious sentiment to every post I make. I have told you this times without number on the open forum. So there is no threat anywhere. I only asked you what your problem with me was, a question I had asked openly in the past.

So you can seek 'legal help' for asking what your problem was. Who cares!

Dear Xavier,
First and foremost, a Mod doesn't have access to any member's personal info/account other than those publicly displayed at the owner's option. The difference between a Mod and other members is that a Mod can send PM, delete, lock, move or sticky topic. That's all. A mod can't ban, neither can he access any member's info other than those optionally displayed on his profile by the user himself. The Supermod and other Mods can testify to that.
In fact, it was because of the alllegations you put up there that I did not use the NL PM facility to send you that message, lest I be accused of using Mod privilege for personal communication with a member.

Now, how did I get your email address?
I could have gotten that without being a Mod, and infact I had known it before I became a Mod.
Recall your username in 2008? Are you not a member of one forum that of that forum, Naija something, that operates by sending chain mails, displaying post and email address of posters?
I receive emails from that forum(before I unsubcribed recently) and when you see a mail from yourformername@yahoo.com, it's no rocket science to know it's you behind that email address. It's like seeing jarus@yahoo.com elsewhere in a Nigerian forum, for someone that knows me on NL even if I hide my email addy here,it is reasonable to guess I'm behind that email address.

So my knowing your email address has nothing to do with my being a Mod.

Your friend,
Jarus

Lock what? Something that has been in news not less than 5 years ago.
Businessday columnist, Iheduru, wrote about Emeagwali's fraudulent claims three weeks ago in his Businessday column. I'm highly surprised many people here are hearing about this on this thread/SR site for the first time.

The allegations need no further investigation. It is on whoever wants to disbelieve in it to opt so.

Ladies and gentlemen,
We thank everybody that has added value in one way or the other to this section in the outgoing year. We recognize the input of everybody.
Meanwhile, as started last year and promised to be made annual https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-368639.0.html, the 2010 NL SECTIONAL AWARDS is here again
This section's was not officially recognized last year due to some misunderstandings, but we promise to make it more organized this time around.
We have also reviewed the procedure a bit. The first stage, which is starting by this thread, is NOMINATION stage. It will last 2 weeks. At the end of the two weeks, the three most nominated will be up for POLL, which will also be up for two weeks, the winner of which is going to emerge the OFFICIAL NAIRALAND POLITICS SECTION POSTER OF THE YEAR 2010.

CRITERIA:
-Quality of contribution - both comments and threads
-Sensibility of activities on the forum - perennial trouble makers will not be accepted, but stout defence of opinion or hot debate is no trouble making
-Sticking to forum rules - any person that has been banned or notorious for makng deletable posts will not be considered
-Level of activities on the forum - Though not a prime factor, more regular posters stand higher chance.


RULES:
-Only one nomination per member.
-Where a member nominates more than person - and we plead you don't do - only the first will be taken.
-Nominees that fail the criteria up there will not be counted
-Though not compulsory, try to put a short, maybe 2-3 line reason for your nomination

NOMINATION ENDS 15th DECEMBER, 2010

Oya, over to you!!!!

Where we have more more than two nomnations, only the first two were(will be) counted. The 'one poster, one nominee' rule has been reviewed to 'one poster, maximum of two nominees' as is being done in other sections


15 DEC 2010: ROUND 2 - VOTING HAS STARTED
BRIEF CITATION OF THE FINALISTS

[b]1, KATSUMOTO:[/b]Highly respected on the politics section for his analytical prowess and debating skills. He joined NL last year and, within a short time, has risen to fame in the circle of Nairaland Political pundits. He is very visible in serious topics, marshaling facts to buttress his arguments. His choice of words in his comments is another strong point for him. Katsumoto's main turf are arguments that border on Igbo, Biafra and related issues. He is a respected voice in those areas.

"The value of the currency is not linked to the productive capacity of a country. It is no secret that most exporting countries want a lower value for their exports so as to increase their exports. The chinese have been manipulating the Yuan so as to sell more products which is a disadvantage to other competiting countries such as the US and the EU. The value of the Naira dropped in the 80s as necessary conditions from the IMF for the loans from the Shagari and IBB (SAP) governments. Japan is an export driven country, yet the Yen has a lower value than the Swiss Francs. Also, before the advent of the Euro, the Sterling had more value than the Mark yet Germany exports more than Britain."

-Katsumoto, analysing the political economy of currency devaluation



2, DAPOBEAR: Dapo's case in this section can be aptly summarized in what Yorubas call 'Akehinde gbegbon' - teh man that comes late and takes the seniority role. Although he has been on NL since 2006, he became active around October 2010, just two months ago. And within just two months, his contribution was so noticed that he got nomination for this award ahead of old equally respected old-timer analysts. Such is Dapobear's quality. He is no doubt in a class of his own. The manner he deploys facts and history to back his arguments tells a lot about Dapo's intelligence.

"Structure is very important. The decentralized, competitive, free-market nature of the American education system imo is part of what makes it so successful. Schools serve the needs of the populace here. They aren't just appendages of the government that will exist regardless of the quality of job they are doing.

Excellence here is also rewarded. The best schools in America KNOW they are the best and charge more money as a result. Harvard costs more money than University of Maryland. In Nigeria, there is less of a differential in prices between the best schools in Nigeria and the worst ones. This suggests inefficiency in allocating resources, I think.

I'm not saying the American education system is perfect, but I think it does a better job of utilizing resources than the Nigerian one"

-3, KOBOJUNKIE; Before the officialization of this award, far back 2007, almost all unofficial threads on most popular/best analyst etc in this section throws up Kobojunkie's name as among top contenders. A google check will confirm this. That shows how respected she is among the NL political analysts and watchers. Although some prominent members will stoutly disagree with this, that she made the Top 4 again this year shows that Koboj is a force to reckon with in this section, take it or leave it. But will she clinch the award, the maiden official edition? You decide. Kobojunkie has shown that political debates is not the forte of men only, with the manner she competes with guys here in discussing issues. She also deploys history, facts and logic in her arguments, never mond her always ROTFLMAO.

"Inferiority complex is an unfortunate Nigerian disease. Blessed with abundant human and physical resources, the best we can do is import goods from all sorts crazy places (most dodgy). We lack the self confidence to buy and promote goods made in Nigeria, when that isn't happening, we are pulling down capable Nigerians, our neighbours and "friends"; all because we are jealous of them or for ethnically bigoted reasons.

We worship whites, Indians and sing in Jamaican patois; while sitting on our own kind. Rather than export Icheoku etc, we create fake copies of "better" cultures and traditions that result in disconnected TV programmes like the "Nigerian Idol."
The man on the street who can't feed his kids, talkless of travelling to the UK, knows all about Manchester United and absolutely zero about Warri Wolves.

Nigeria is the only country on Earth that is like this. When will we ever wake up? "

- Kobojunkie, berating our national attitude, aftermath of wikileaks expose.Dapobear, lamenting the decadence in our academic system

Guys, over to you


29/12/2010 - DAPOBEAR IS 2010 POLITICS SECTION POSTER OF THE YEAR
At the end the keenly contested award for the Best Poster in Politics Section, DAPOBEAR has emerged the winner for 2010. He edged out pre-result favourite, Katsumoto by one vote. Kobojunkie emerged the 2nd runners-up.

By this award, Dapo becomes an ambassador of Nairaland Politics Section. We expect him to continue with his good comportment and witty analysis.
He is also free to use 'NL Politics Section Section Poster of The Year - 2010' as his signature if he so wishes. I'm also talking with higher authorities on conferring him(and winners in other sections) special privileges with respect to special forum facilities.

Ladies and gentlemen, join me in congratulating DAPOBEAR, the best poster in the best section in the largest forum in the largest black nation in the world!!!!

Till next year when someone succeeds him(or he retains it), I say thank you all for your cooperation throughout the year. You were all wonderful.

bawomolo:
NL politics section has gotten so bad to the point we can't make a claim without being accused of jealousy or tribalism.

This is really sickening. It's a pity things have gotten that bad.

And to think it was his Igbo brother, Duru something, that brought the issue in his column on Businessday a couple of weeks ago.

Gbawe:
Why ? Because I write that supporters of Ribadu should actually speak as if they believe in him? It is okay for you to write negative things about Ribadu because you are not a supporter of his ambition . That is what makes me different to others. I don't have a problem with those who oppose Ribadu writing negatively about him. I will counter what they write if possible or , at worst, say nothing .

Well, maybe that's where we are different. I'm pro-Ribadu and and incurably anti-PDP, but even at that I prefer to look at issues holistically.
I'm not a politician, nor a commissioned campaigner for anybody. I campaign for anybody I feel can do better for this country. As at now either Ribadu or Buhari will do for me.

But does that mean I will have to keep silent where my candidate is not impressive? NO. I'm not anybody's PR agent, so I'm not convinced I'm duty-bound not to discuss anybody's weakness. GEJ, as I have said times without number, lacks presidential vivacity, too dull for that post, appears clueless, confusionist and obscurantist, and doesn't seem different from other PDP politicians. NR, to me, still needs some polishing too, and I'm not convinced I'm bound not to say that in public, even as his supporter. That doesn't diminish my belief in him.

Far back 2006, discussed on Nairaland: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-19285.0.html and https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-177876.0.html

This thread is actually a fall-out of a discussion we Ribadu supporters had in my office this office. Most of us are Ribadu fans and we unanimously expressed disappointemtt that NR needs to do more in terms of public communication. I initially even wanted to PM you, Gbawe, that our man needs more polishing, but I did not want use forum Mod privilege for private benefit, hence throwing it open for public discussion here.

As regards the Buhari/Ribadu thing, I'm not supporting either of them because of their person, but because of what they stand for. To me, both guys stand for almost same thing: no-nonsenseness and zero tolerance for corruption, which I believe, if tackled, many other things will fall in place.
Buhari, to me, has the edge of having a known economic ideology, which Sanusi Lamido described as Buharism.

Any of them will do for me, because I believe in what they stand for, not them as a pe
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This is a known fact, discussed on Nairaland far back four years ago.
Philip Emeagwali is a fraud.

I am a Ribadu fan, an active one, but I have been less than impressed with his articulation and public communication skills, which is very vital to convince people, especially the youth, who could easily be his most valuable constituency.

This is not to wash 'our' linens in the public, but a statement of facts. After all, we have criticized Jonathan several times for his uncharismatic mien and uncaptivating aura.

Ribadu may not be committing those freudian slips GEJ commits sometimes, but he has not been better in articulation.

Good communication skills, whether we like it or not, is a crucial quality for any leader. Obama won people over with his oratory prowess. Bill Clinton was a great communicator.

The Ribadu interview I read in Nigeria Village Square sometime ago was not so impressive. His piece in Thisday of yesterday was not so presidential. And above all, his speech at the Fayemi swearing-in on Saturday was not impressive. His declaration speech as he picked his ACN form in Adamawa also fell short of a great leader. Ribadu was only uttering 'I was born into politics, my late father worked with Sardauna of sokoto, Ahmadu Bello and others in building nigeria. I also have 25 years of public service and I promise to be a loyal party member"

At Ekiti, his speech was also not captivating: I rejoice with you all, this is our dream of a new nigeria. Thank you, thank you very much. This is our dream of a new Nigeria.

The likes of Oshiomole spoke resoundingly well, hammering on how to uproot PDP's evil, how to make Nigeria a better place.

Ribadu's handlers need to work on him o, else it will be difficult for some of us here to sell him.

Well done here o
At least more and more politicians are recognizing the role of NL.

Today, can Nigeria lay claim to be 'Africa's most properous' nation as we were decribed in that 1965 article?

Interesting article there. Sanusi Dantata was reputed to be Nigeria's richest man at the time, and it was the first name that came to mind when I saw the thread title. Chief S L Edu, Odutola brothers, Ojukwu, we read, were also deep-pocketed at the time. S.O Gbadamosi, Action Group's financier was also reputed to be stupendously rich at the time. After them, in the 70s, came the likes of S B Bakare, Saloro of Ijeshaland; Henry Fajemirokun before Abiola later surfaced.

The Dantata empire has been able to survive through the ages, and Dangote, arguably Nigeria's richest man today, is from the family and was indeed set up by his maternal grandfather, Sanusi Dantata.

The piece is refreshing. Thanks for bringing it here.

panalyst:
Jarus you are from offa? i actually did my secondary school education there. Adesoye College.

omo butter

illusion2:
Good emphasis on this forum.

National politics is another matter,sentiments play a significant role.

Almost everyone agrees Buhari would probably make a better president than all the in PDP, however he has been successfully labelled (unfairly) as a sharia proponent and thats why it will be very difficult for him to rule Nigeria. . .ditto Sani Zamfara,Shekarau(a fine gentleman).

Thats the way life goes.

BTW I respect Jarus a lot,just offering my own 2 cents to him.

We are all largely influenced by our beliefs and not having any belief is generally not acceptable in our country.

The concern most non-muslims have is that 'conservative' muslims tend to believe their religion should transverse the moral side to the political,governmental & legal aspects of life. . . .and that is very concerning

I fully agree with you that tribal and religious sentiments/beliefs play crucial role in politics, especially but not limited to this part of the world. Even in America, arguably world's most respected model of democracy, issues are needlessly being raised about Obama's religious beliefs, which is ordinarily not meant to be an issue.

That said, one thing about me is that my take on issues are well known and I don't hide them anywhere, to the extent of making them known on the pages of newspapers and public forums, the most far-reaching place you can express your views.

I am a Muslim, a practising one, and a proud Yoruba but I interact with everybody, irrespective of ethnic or religious affiliations. I believe in justice and equity. I will NEVER deny anybody what is due to him because he shares a different religious view.
I am a Yoruba guy but I have had cause to defend people of other tribes before. I am a Muslim but I have had cause to defend non-Muslims before or condemn an act of Muslims openly. In 2005, aftermath of the Danish cartoon crisis, I wrote an article in The Punch criticizing our northern Muslims that went on killing spree of innocent Christians in Borno for an offence they knew nothing about. At the same time, I will not join hands in mocking my Muslim brothers just because it is fashionable to do so. I will do so when I’m convinced that their act is wrong.
Also I’m personally not given to the usual cry in Nigeria that Christians are dominating this or Muslims are dominating that. I believe in pure merit. During the 2005 National confab, there were cries by Muslims that it was wrong that both the Chairman (Niki Tobi ) and Secretary (Mattew Hassan Kukah) were Christians, I refused to join the cry because I saw it as needless and petty.
I however have a problem with the common perception in Nigeria that when a Muslim does something, it is narrowed down to his religion, but when a non-Muslim does same, religion is not an issue, like the Sanusi issue. I mentioned this in my famous article ‘AN ENGAGEMENT WITH TWO SANUSI CRITICS’ published in The Sun and Daily Trust. The same thing happens subtly on this forum as everything I say is narrowed down to religion by some people, for no other reason than because I’m an open Muslim.
I don’t have problems working with people of other faiths, and I will not impose my beliefs on anybody if in position of authority, but we should have mutual respect for our dissenting views.

Must he be replaced?

@ Tpoic,
NO

illusion2:
Hmmmm. I'm happy you have such lofty ambitions. However you need your Yoruba/secular side to come to the fore more as against the current impression I (& a lot of other NLers)have that you are unrepentantly pro-Muslim(sharia) .

ROTFLMAO

Well, I am a conscious Muslim and I don't think that's a barrier. I have always mixed with non-Muslims and interact with them. In fact, if not because you frequent the Muslim section on NL, you would hardly know I am a Muslim, my activities on other sections of NL(recall the awards, the initiatives, the political, sports, career, economic discussions etc). So I don't have a problem mixing with other people and but I don't hide my Islam, as some Muslims do, when it's time to. If knowing quite much about my religion is what people see as bigotry, I will accept being a bigot, but I honestly don't think I am one. We all have private lives, you know. I will not be unfair to a person because he doesn't share my religious or any other views. That's me.

illusion2:
Never say never my friend. In politics there are no permanent friends/enemies. . .

Never say never . . . I agree.

netotse:
you do realise that for you to be elected into office in nigeria you need a grassroots following, that entails getting involved in the lives of kwarans if you want to avoid the whole godfather-syndrome.

I don't have a problem with grassroots as far as Offa, my community and the largest town in Kwara South, is concerned. We can start from there - state house of rep representing the region, and ride on that to launch a state wide popularity.

Hussain555:
Hi all,
I am a prospective student of unilorin, applying for Accounting.
I want to know the necessary steps to take in order to be ICAN certified as early as possible.
Though I have a bit of confidence that I will get admitted to Unilorin this year, I am thinking of applying to a German University because ''nijja factor'' might come into play and I have no one helping with admission runs.
Your comments on either or both matters would be appreciated

The earlier one starts professional exams, the always better. Some of my friends that started early got qualified as early as 200 level.

With your O'level certificate, go and register for ATS now(a precursor to ACA). It's in 3 stages ATS 1, 2 and 3. Once you pass those three stages(which is possible under one and half year) you move to Intermediate at professional stage, and then PE 1 & 2, which can also be cleared under 1 and half years. While this is going on, you are still a student, combining both your school works with ICAN, which will be related, since you're applying for Accounting. You will be in academic form all through, and by your year 3, you could have become a Chartered Accountant.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=490918.msg6959575#msg6959575 date=1287340947]Jarus, can you please send aisha a PM?

We need her on this thread. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-533420.0.html#msg6959523[/quote]Done.
But you know she's been away from the forum for a couple of days. So she will only see it when she returns.

Ina aeni

semid4lyfe:
The title of this thread is deceptive and besides, it doesn't belong in the politics section.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-533474.0.html

Retitled and moved to Music. Thanks

Well, I've also been planning moving to Abuja for some time now, only that my job is head office one and our HO is in Lagos.
I also hate the way people take pride in Abuja being expensive. I just came back to Lagos a couple of days ago after a week in Abuja. I must admit I like the relative sanity of the place and the fact that I moved from one place to another in minutes. Within 2 hours, I visited friends and touched a number of places, unlike in Lagos where you spend hours on the road.
In any case, I still keep aglow my desire to move to Abuja soon.

I'll look into your complaints, discuss with Supermod, and decide on it.

^
Ok. I now recall.

As regards politics, I cannot rule out throwing my fila in the ring later in the future, but I'll surely not ride on Saraki's back to achieve that.
But for now, let me continue battling this accounting jeje, while I come out to lend my voice to politics on pages of newspapers.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=533136.msg6952918#msg6952918 date=1287245724]so if it's a lie,why not delete or lock it ?[/quote]I said it appeared to be a lie to me, as a private contributor, not as a Mod.
I have no reason to lock it, especially since he provided the source. If I see it as lie, others are entitled to see it as true.

otokx:
Big lie

abi o.
Which news source be new star again

bilms:
deal all,

hey jurus,


we need talk,

write me here, its urgent

discus4now@yahoo.com

Mail sent to you.

illusion2:
Dear Jarus,
Nice one. .  .  tho' Im not sure why you sent me the PM last time,in view of this daily trust link 

Struggling to recall sending you any PM.
Can you remind me?

PhysicsMHD:
Who do I speak to about losing forum posting privileges?


I was posting under the user name PhysicsQED and after I posted/attempted to post three articles with links about David Blackwell, Vivien Thomas, and Percy Lavon Julian in the "Unofficial Black History Month Thread" that was in the politics section I got a message at the top in a red box indicating that I had lost forum posting privileges for posting spam. In the context of that thread, my posts were definitely not spam. Some moderator please fix this.

You were banned by anti-spam bot for continuing to make a post already tagged spam.
Long, usually copy and paste posts sometimes fall victim of spam bot, alongside genuine spam, simply because they share m,any xtics with spam posts. Next time, once it's not allowing you to post th etopic, report to the Mod or Super Mod or Admin, because if you keep trying, you'll end up being banned by the bot as had happened. The Admin will look into it and release your ID.

usbcable:
but just as my elder brother once told me, given a ''free and fair'' election in the real sense of the word.
the Saraki Monarchy Governorship line would be obliterated like a nuclear explosion.

I strongly doubt that. I spent the first 18 years of my life in Kwara and still follow the state politics, but what many people don't know is that Saraki is in full control of Kwara Central, which alone constitutes 55% of the voting populace. He has great followership in Kwara North too. It is only those of us in Kwara South that constitute the opposition and our population is very insignificant. They can win election without us.

Furthermore, like I mentioned in that article, majority of the people that actually vote are these poor women, who are ready to queue for hours to vote for Olooye's candidate. Those of us that claim to be intellectual, elite, educated etc, are in the minority and we have a long way to go upturn the system.

So I honestly don't think Saraki will lose, even if the election was free an fair.

Barka Juma'ah