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lastchild: anyway at the same time being born again is so difficult

If taking a flight is so difficult, then forget going abroad. Difficulty is a function of our believe. It is difficult for a man who is right handed to fully make use of his left hand, but when he looses his right hand. He will achieve the impossible of turning his left hand to a right hand.

Only courageous men are celebrated.

lastchild: the article is too long,can you summarize?

Study it at your pace, you must not finish it at once.

edogho: if u continue seeing her in ur dreams, why don't u tell her what u want by urself. d hard truth is that, u need nobody's help except u risk infuriating ur spirit wife. i can see u always shake like a jellyfish whenever she shows up. next time she shows up, be bold even if u are afraid and make ur demands even add mild threats and u'll see her cower. ask her to look for a way to come live with u physically and if she can't tell her u'll remain faithful to her only if she meets ur demands. don't ever show weakness, become indifferent to what she's doing and find a way to hurt her back if she dares to hurt u or anyone u love again. just propose a truce, simple. and close this thread and thank me later. btw, do u have d balls to do this?

hahahaha, bros you fuuny ooo. Na spirit he is talking about ooo, not human. You never jam spirits. It easier said than done. You think the spirit cares about you? When you encounter spirit, you will know how far. Never confront a bully who can beat you very well even with his hands tied.

lastchild: changing from who you are to something else,to be whom you are not used to,that's why people back slide everyday

Guy you got me laughing here. If some white guys read this they may be thinking Nigerians have a lot of vampires.

Bros please find time to go through this.

https://www.nairaland.com/1919393/what-it-really-mean-born

bossmini84: This has made me to stop worshiping God. Pls drop ur reason

How did you came to this conclusion?

To me God has been faithful.

It is very wrong to expect a man to spend his hard earned money no matter how he earns it, how you feel he should earn it. If you feel he has not done well with his money, go earn some and come and show him by example not by talking how to spend money. To make money no be an easy job, so make we no dey peep person pocket. Na God I take dey beg us.

Am striving had to make mine money. Tomorrow one Nairaland boy will surface from God knows where and will be lecturing me how to spend mine own money. I will return here to tell una say I been prophesy am. My name is Joseph.

lastchild: I know the born again means,although is the best way out but hardest and almost impossible for me

What does born again mean? if I may ask.

lastchild: cutting my hair which is not even shaggy while I still have a plan of getting a dreadlocks,change my dress code to pastor type(I'm this hiphop type) ,

I had an appointment with a pastor,while waiting for him, my phone rang,my ring tone was "ice prince oleku" the pastor's wife said I have to give up to these whole thing including the kind of music I listen to if I want this spirit to free me

Infact let me be plain,I can't just be that "born again" they expects me to, imagine pastor advising me to go and get rid of my tattoos when am planning to have more

I see all these as a punishment

The one I see as necessary for you to change is the kind of things you hear which include music that can make you image wrong things. But a change of the rest are not necessary if you don't do them with the desire to make people stumble, i.e make people fall in sin.

Lastly, your desire to want to do more of what doesn't improve your spirit man (they may not necessarily demote your spirit man), shows you don't want to see if there is anything better than that which you are used to.

Endico: Call me on 07032081981 & lets partner. We will get an export order, get the bitter kola, export it through courier. The bitter kola gets there within 5days & payment is received within a week from the date the importer receives the bitter kola. With NIm, you can export 1ton of bitter kola, pay back the money & continue the business with the profit you made. I will do everything while you follow me to see all that i am doing & we share the proceed.

You export bitter kola through courier and expect to make profit? How much are they buying from you? Please analyze all the cost and profit margin to this guy to make his choice. Your analysis must include independent exporters for investigation because the money is not his.

A debtor is a life slave.

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lastchild: my brother rhank you very much, but whenever people talks about this drawing closer to God and prayer thing it makes me more hopeless because I know I've done my best when it comes to prayers,I've fasted but this thing is going no where,what else do I do?

Anyway I just met a nairalander who has been following my threads,she seems a bit experienced in this, she knows what am passing through

She suggested I should go see owummiri people for direction,the problem is that I don't know any of them, since I was born, bred and brought up in a city, where can I find any of them?

Fasting and prayer doesn't solve problems on their own. What solves problem is connecting to the person that answers the prayer.

lastchild: thanks but the level of born again they are requesting I'll be is not just something I can deal with,it will affect my social life, I just need to be free so I can live my normal life

You never ready.

Please can you tell me the level of born again there are requesting because I don't think born again is in levels.

lastchild: I understand,that distance is not my issue but I keep asking my self what type of deliverance can be better than all I have gone to

The worst is accident attack am getting up and down for few days now,so the fear added up to traveling

I slept in a church yesterday(vigil)she still came in the dream saying my plan won't work, asking me who I'm planning to abandon all the children for,it was in that dream she claimed the responsibility of those accident,she said they are all warning,that she has the power to take my life at anytime

I woke up,decided to stop this whole church thing, I lost confidence if they can save me

She is afraid of your defeating her and to stop to is to make you afraid. It is better to be a dead man than to be a living slave.

lastchild: I just need to rob mind with some spiritualists here,I don't mean born again people,atheists, please this is not for you

I don't want to write my story here because no one can be able to read it all,if you visit my profile and read some of my threads you will understand a little of what I'm talking about

Its been a journey trying to be free from the hands of this most stubborn spirit called succubus, pastors and believers call it spiritual wife, I call it succubus because that's exactly what their name is

This is a spirit that cause a lot of pain in many people's life,some know about it(me for example) while some don't ,some don't even believe it exist at all, well I didn't also till it became obvious

These spirits is the cause of ...

* Inability to get an opposite sex and remain together

* strange sickness

* hardship(this one normally comes when you started struggling to be free

* childlessness

*Broken home

* dissapearing and appearing of objects

* starnge smell/scent around you

* seeing shadows crossing you when no one is with you

* sudden weakness of penis during sex

* swing mood like being happy now and become angry the next minute

* mastur3ation always(you can't just control the urge when it comes)

* pregnant women dying during delivery

And so many other things

You must not pass through all this to know you have this spirit following you, I'm passing through all of them now,except broken home because mine didn't even allow me to marry

You may wonder why I detest born again people to be on this thread,well the reason is simple,born again people will only tell me that same thing which is to go for a deliverance, that is not what am here for,I'm tired of going for deliverance,I've done it over 50 times in my whole life,queen yachikka keep coming back after a while

So am here now to seek for some spiritualists (if there's any)on how I can summon this spirit so we can have a live chat, we need to reach an agreement on what she want so she can free me to live a normal life, I know its possible to call her to come,many people are claiming to do it for me but I just want to go to the right place so it can be done perfectly

If you know of any place please share it with me

What she may ask for, you may not be able to give her. And once you see her, if you don't kill her she will kill you. In the born again angle, deliverance cannot stop her. Only you can stop her through the born again means. A slave cannot negotiate with the master. A slave can only get his freedom from a free man who will pay for his freedom or he kills his master to be free. No two ways, freedom is gained not given.

If you want the born again means I will show you.

cktheluckyman: born again refers to baptism

No it doesn't. Baptism is physical agreement with the death and resurrection of Christ. Born again is a spiritual thing.

overcomersfaith: Wonderful Messiah, let Your death speak for us this day as we rest upon Your Holiness and may the blessings of God rest upon us in return in the Name of Jesus.

Unquestionable You are the Lord. Every good and perfect gift comes from the Lord. Release upon us Your grace to abound in every good work in the Name of Jesus. Cleanse us from all unrighteousness and make us epistles of Christ (2 Cor 3:3). For yea brought us with price; the death of your Son Jesus Christ on the cross (1 Cor 6:20), therefore grant us victory indeed over sin, every sins Lord, for salvation is of You.

read further @ http://overcomers-faith.org/

Where is the source of grace?

MightySparrow: I have read it once, need some time to study this revelation.

Your welcome. Don't just forget it, find time to inquire of God. I always encourage people to as God things with a heart to learn. He is always willing to help man encounter Him.

Ikengawo: in 2007 if someone said the name Goodluck Jonathan would you know who it is?

How about Yar Adua in 2004

Was Obasanjo not made president fresh out of prison?

Why is it that when it comes to Igbos everyone want's to start thinking overtly critically, while every other tribe's affairs are allowed to be. What political influence has any of our presidents had before becoming president? Was Balewa not a school teacher? How about Shagari who was also a teacher?

The incumbent has not finish his term so he can not pick any. Am an Igbo but am not unrealistic nor emotional about things.

Now born again is God's total responsibility now ours. It is our responsibility to be saved, which is a product of indicated interest we show. This is what the apostles means by " it is not of work, that any should boast". You do nothing to be born again, except to be feed to grow and remain healthy till your birthday. The food is also provided by God, who has you in his womb.

John 1:12-13, But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (kjv)

It is important to note that, you cannot receive Him (Christ) until your born again according to the above scripture. We all know that Christianity is filled with claiming and empty hope we term faith. Only those who have grow the the position of sonship can receive Christ. When you receive Christ, you become a son and you cannot receive him until you are born of God (born again). John1:13 Which were born ... The were in that verse point to the fact that being born of God comes before receiving Christ. This verse also show that we did nothing to be born again since, blood was not involved, flesh was not involved, man's will was not involved. God did everything.

It is at this new birth that (1 John 3:9 Whatsoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remain in Him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God) becomes operational. You cannot sin again, it is real. This happens to you not because you are trying to to sin, no. But because the seed of God in you produces fruits of righteousness of its own accord. There was a place I tried to explain it, but the question coming made me stop. I wish I have time to write on how to be righteous without stress. A righteous man do not struggle to be righteous, the seed of righteousness in him produces the fruit of righteousness effortless.

Christianity is very interesting if God open you eyes to heavenly principles.

Jesus answered and said to him, 'most assuredly I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God".
Nicodemus said to Him,"How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?"
Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. "Do not marvel that I said to you, 'you must be born again'. "The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit". John 3:3-8

Jesus told Nicodemus that being born again means being born of water and the Spirit. Being born by one of these two is not possible. Both of them goes together but the most importance is the Spirit because it is the spirit man that was dead (the likeness of God) and that must be brought back to life. I wish I have the time to explain how each and everyone of us came to die. I have tried to explain to people that Adam's sin did not make us sinner or killed us. It is our own personal sin that did the job.

If you take notice you will see that after the mentioning of water first as a medium of being born again, it never appeared again rather the spirit took over. The spirit is what died in man when he sinned. When man lost the Spirit of God it stayed in the kingdom of God while man left to the kingdom of satan ( the world). For man to have the Spirit of God back, there must be a way through which the Spirit of God must enter into man. That medium is of water (the word of God) which contain the Spirit of God.

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God". take a look at John 3:6, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Therefore that which is born of water (the word) is water (the word). When one becomes the word, he becomes God. This is what is means to be born again. He receives back the life (likeness) of God.

.... to be continued

On the other hand save means to redeem or protect someone from eternal damnation. Redeem itself mean to recover ownership of something by paying a sum.

You can not redeem or protect a life which you do not have. This life has been lost, it need be returned before it can be redeemed or protected. It is not in man to born himself, it the responsibility of ones father to give birth to him. It was God who gave birth to us by giving us his likeness, it is still his responsibility to reborn us (born again).

Some months back, God woke me up around 3 a.m. And He asked me, "when were you born again?" Being one who doesn't keep track of date. I replied, "Lord I don't know". He said, "your right, for no one whose when he was born". I said, "No Lord I know mine birth date, I was born in 1st October". He said, "Your right, that is what your parents told you. If they have told you a different day, you will still taken that as your birth date because you don't know when you were born". He said to me, "no one knows when he was born on earth and so it is in my kingdom". "I am the only one who knows when anyone was born in my kingdom". I said, "but my pastor said, if I don't know when I was saved am not yet born again". He said "being saved is different from being born again". "When a man is saved, I take him/her out of the world (sin) and put him/her in my womb and I will not deliver (born) the person until I know the person is well mature to adapt to the things of my kingdom". Then He shocked me by saying, "many people have been in my womb for decades, including pastors, multitude have been miscarriaged but are claiming to be born again". I was shocked.

I will show what it means to be born again next

Born again is highly misunderstood by many. I was also on the wrong track until God pointed the right path to me. I want to point out that being born again is different from being saved. Christians have tried over the years to substitute one for the other.

Born means given birth to. Meaning there was no life before life came into the being. Now born again means there was life which was lost (death) and which was returned (again). It is not a new life that was returned, but the old life which was lost that was returned. This is born again.

If there was no life, there can not be a born again. There can only be a born but not again. Now it is important to note that the life we are living is not the first life being referred to in born again which is lost. No one has to die physically to be born again. Therefore, there is a life which everyone who is born into this world must have which is different from this one we are living. That life is the likeness of God which was given to Adam at creation. Genesis 1:26, the likeness of God is different from the image of God. The image of God that was given to Adam is the physical appearance and structure of man we see today but the likeness of God also given to Adam is the very life of God in man which is different from the breath of God on Adam that gave life to his flesh. This life is what John referred to as the light of men in John1:4. Everyone born of man has this life because as a gift from God, it can not be taken from man. Romans 11:29 says,"For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance". What God has given He has given.

I will be writing this things in phases for easy reading.

macof: Genesis 4:19
Lamech took two wives, one Adah the other Zilah

If such insignificant women could be mentioned I wonder why Cain's wife wasn't mentioned
I wonder why Seth's wife wasn't mentioned

Your Bible sucks, that's jst it

You called the women insignificant?

I think this is the first polygamous family on earth. Am I right? If yes there are not insignificant.

These women gave birth to children who invented other profession beside farming. Check it out.

Women who were named in the bible did something special or their husbands did which has a direct link to them or their children did.

lustra89: Now, why i asked this question, was beause i ran into a friend's update, sending birthday wishes and calling him title's like ''God's General'' to me i dnt think he deserve that title, judging from what most God's general's has done including people like whycliff jean, john hus, martin lurther knox etc,, this are men who fought for the bible we read today, including giving their life so the bible could be interpreted to the language of the common man,, when the catholics, kings and pope insist it must be in latin, they fought for reformation of the church, destroyin most belief,, many reason's which i cnt go on mentioning, even when john hus was kill because of his Reformation to the church, he said '' lord have mercy' and in 1999 pope john paul apologised for a sin commited by the church to him, after 385years, to me i dnt fink Bishop david oyedepo should be address as such,,, please what's ur humble opinion,, no insult please, but if you do,, i will humble smile no skin pain.... Thanks

No man taketh this honour unto himself Heb 5:4. If God calls him His general what is that to us, if He doesn't what is that to us. Our problem is we love the honour of men than the honour of God. Leave him to his God.

In mine opinion, he is among the top fliers who have tried in enlightening the body of Christ in the world in this our generation. Every generation has its own obstacles.

Orikinla: Oby Ezekwesili Named Among Top 5 Igbo Leaders Who Can Become President of Nigeria
http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/138149/1/oby-ezekwesili-named-among-top-5-igbo-leaders-who-.html

I only saw Oby's name. I didn't see the rest. Note: the assessment was not made by the masses. In Nigeria, until you are in a winning party, don't waste your money. People out side a system see things differently from those in the system. The Igbos for now do not have both the goodwill of the other tribes and the money to buy them.

SisterMe: I could give you many instances in the Bible where water meant simply water. The scripture you quoted is a separate scripture from the one we are talking about. You could say they relate, that's fine, but where did the Word say they relate and other plain 'water' scriptures do not relate?

Baptism does not make one born again, but, according to Jesus, you can's say you are born again except you are born of water. If the second part of that scripture (born of the Spirit) meant literally baptised in the Spirit, you have to agree that born of water also means baptised in water and the early conversions recorded in the book of Acts prove it so. There was always water baptism immediately following belief in the Truth.

Where water baptism was excluded, the Holy Spirit was excluded as evidenced by Acts 19:1-5.

Born of is different from born in. Born of water means water is part of your make up and born of the Spirit means the Spirit is a part of you. Baptised in water or in Spirit is different from born of. When you are of something, that thing is part of you. When you are in some thing, that thing is not part of you. When you come out of that thing that thin leaves you. But when something is part of you, you can't take it out of yourself.

I hope you understand it now.

SisterMe: You say so. I could say a thing too, but the Word said His Word. Show me where the Word said the water in that verse and context is the Word.

If you study the word as a book, you will not understand it. But if the spirit of God open it for you, you will. Jesus told the samaritan woman "whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give himshall never thirst.." John 4:14 (the word of God).

Baptism cannot make one a born again, it is when you are born again that you go for baptism.

joedejana: My opinion; as long as there's No evil then No one will see any reason to worship God....This could also mean without evil/bad things and summarily SATAN....NO one will serve God, right?
Don't just view, comment

It is a wrong perceptive. People that worship God for what the will get are not worshiping God. They are just claiming. I once told someone, if the fear of hell or the enjoyment of heaven is what drives you to God. You are fake.

If you come in contact with God on a personal level. You will see yourself as a divine being, that experience alone is what a million anything you can think of.

SisterMe: Show me where the Bible said so in that verse.

The water mention in this verse is the word of God which still contain the spirit of God. No one can be born again without the word of God, anyone who think otherwise is just claiming.

They misbehave because they have not encountered the God of their father.

johnydon22: In the bible it is said that When the holy spirit came upon the apostles, they spoke in tongues (Tongue here means language) which means they spoke in many languages and all the poeple from every country and race heard their own language... Alright what is wrong with the speaking of tongues of today, nobody is Speaking any foreign language...If the apostles spoke this modern day Speaking in tongue nobody would have even looked at them talk more of listening .. PLEASE WHAT WENT WRONG WITH THE SPEAKING IN TONGUES OF NAWADAYS

Speaking in tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit. I believe we need the Holy Spirit than his gifts. We should focus on Him than His gifts.

SisterMe: A born again, is someone who is born (baptised) of water and born (baptised) of the Spirit, at least, according to the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. If you are not born of water properly, you can't be said to be born again according to God's definition.

The water in the verse you quoted is not the water of baptism, but of the word of God.