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hustla:
That's some Odogwu scores. God when?

Jokes apart, its a straightforward exam.

Issue is that we manytimes make out to these tests to be what they're not.
I remember a colleague who sat for IELTS a number of times earlier on while we were in 9ja. When I was preparing for my attempt and asked about the exam, he appeared very fascinated about the security and passport checks and cameras in the hall and how 'even your cough is monitored'. In his mind, he simply made the exam to be what it wasn't and didn't surprise me he struggled with it. Aside extenuating factors, if one had a bachelors degree in naija with now masters + time in the UK, a good IELTS score should be a given.

Also recently advised someone to take the exam as a quicker option to get her visa rather than the degree certificate route. She went on about how many people spend 3 months to prepare and still fail, how people are different e.t.c. I told her look- this exam is straightforward, I know your capability and 2 weeks is good enough time to prepare. Thankfully she took some advice and afterwards, was like- this stuff is not even hard.

Similar to the phobia with the driving test and multiple querries we had here a while back. Many struggle to believe that these are straightforward tests with clear guidance on how to prepare and that no one is trying to catch them out.

[quote author=chopnaira post=129089670][/quote]Rubbish.
What is the source of this data?

hustla:


Normal level. Was your Ielts score very high or a decent 7.5/8 is enough?

Band 8.5, lowest score was writing but that domain has less impact on the CRS score.

Listening, Reading and Speaking have much higher impact than writing and is much easier getting the max band in those. IELTS is a favourable factor comparatively for we who primarily speak English.

References1:
CableIndex

This is misrepresentation of facts.

Why not include how much is owed to western backed agencies such as the IMF and world bank?

We scream China but most major developmental projects by the FG over the last 10 years have been funded by relatively cheap Chinese loans.

What happened to the billions more borrowed from the IMF, world bank or commercial eurobond loans

I wonder how the new change by Germany would affect the market fir international students. Scheming thru it seems;

Students can now work for 9 months before their studies and 18 months afterwards. The 18months counts towards PR with eligibility being just 2 years. 2 months ago, they also reduced the time it takes folks to apply for citizenship from 8 years to 5 years (and sometimes 3 years) of residing in Germany. They also allow dependents for students but certain criteria has to be met. A German passport would give access to the whole EU.

The German economy is strong with a good manufacturing base hence would offer good opportunities. Downside would largely be the language (they are strong on this), and a relatively less robust Nigerian community there.

Ultimately, the ping-pong continues with developed nations dipping into the market of international students at intervals to address demographic decline

'Germany is the third most popular country for international students, after the US and the UK. Over the past decade, international student enrollment in Germany grew by nearly 28 per cent. Higher education institutions in Germany are home to at least 458,210 international students.'

dupyshoo:
Are you in health sector?

Yes

Donald7610:
The ability of that nation to ensure that all its citizens have access to sufficient, safe, and nutritious food to maintain a healthy and active life.
Kudos to Northern Governors

Southern Governors encourage agriculture even if you cannot support at this hunger time

And you think this is the way to ensure access to sufficient, safe and nutritious food?

Food sufficiency is not rocket science. What nation has emerged food sufficient by doing this?

What's the population of the needy in Kebbi? How many bags of rice were purchased? How would it be efficiently shared and how long would it feed them for?

How much did the government buy each bag if rice and how much did it take to repackage it?

What you are applauding here is waste and a highway to poverty

makazona:
Good news for international doctors, Innit?

Not necessarily. Has little effect on international doctors. The costs are in the grand scheme miniscle, covered by individual practices and largely reimbursed. Moreso they are highly trained professionals with good international flexibility- so while its difficult to get and train, it's easy to lose.

Truth be said, Home office has listened when it came to GPs- initially provided a 4 month leeway (option to work flexibly without a sponsor) post-training so they are not under pressure to choose where to work. This is in addition to NHS England reimbursing their visa fee (excluding ILR).

Gift7428:
How long did it take you to get your passport back after you sent it over ?
I have been asked to send mine but I also need it for another visa

Thanks

For visit visa, it was 1- 2 weeks. They dont hold it for long.

For PR, they mention 30 days but I'm holding off sending mine till the very end to give me some leeway on when to travel

hustla:
Thanks Chief

Ill check their thread and see which one I'll fit into

... But you didn't tell us you want to do Japa 2.0 ooo.

Hehe..Life na hustle.. worth putting in the effort while relatively young... Just like I sought the opportunity to move to the UK, I have continued to be on the lookout for opportunities both within and outside the UK. The UK has been brilliant but my umbilical cord is not tied here.

For now, Canada offers significantly better pay, work-life balance and appreciation for my training and skillset and also pretty straightforward pathway to get in. It's proximity to the U.S is also another factor.

Goodenoch:
https://archive.is/Y1irF

Thanks.
Certain points are laid out which are difficult to argue against.
It seems white men from poorer backgrounds are being given the short end of the stick.

One downside is that 'meritocracy' manytimes underestimates the effect upbringing/access to opportunities generally has on outcomes. We can all agree the reason an increasing number of MPs are privately educated is not because private schools have more intelligent kids than their public counterparts and neither does a privately educated MP perform better.

We also mainly agree that OxBridge should not become the exclusive right of privately educated students. Top universities have tried to adress this by using several means but mainly hit a roadblock. The other extreme is the quota system as practiced in Nigeria- a recipe for mediocrity.

There are no easy fixes that pop to mind. Reason I'm against certain policies (mainly in immigration) that limits the opportunity (and ultimately outcome) afforded to immigrant folks and their offspring.

lavida001:
Suella 2.0

Haven't read the article but many times headlines can be misleading.

Can you share a link to the article?

GraciousWords:
......
NOCs can be edited, no need to delete the profile - FAQ 26 covers this.
Post 2 on page 1 of the EE thread also has the history of draws since 2015.
There have been only 2 STEM draws since CBDs were launched, but multiple Healthcare, Agric and French draws have happened. Healthcare dropped to 422 and French to 336 - a viable plan B for some.

Study the links marked HERE on the first page - very straight forward process.

Good resource.

It's becoming the plan A for a good number.

Jamesclooney:
Thanks for the link, very helpful. I’ve just seen an NOC I can use. However, I have a five months old EE profile with a different NOC. Can I update the NOC to this new category one? Or should I just delete the old profile and create a new one? I also saw there was a draw for 975 people recently (March 13), how often do they return to same NOC code after a draw? Thanks a lot. Canada PR process can be so complicated Mehn.

Can't say for certain.
My first application was quickly declined as 'ineligible' cos I didn't factor in the complete number of hours I work hence was under the treshold. Quickly applied again and it wasn't an issue.

One thing to consider is your current score. With the category based gaining popularity the cutoff from the general pool has began to rise- from a low of 480 ish to now 520- 540. So from your score and being in the pool for months, you could guesstimate your chance of being selected in future general draws (moreso if the cutoff keeps rising).

You can also look back to see the timing of different categories and general ( https://www.canadavisa.com/express-entry-invitations-to-apply-issued.html ). For some, its roughly 2-3m I'd say. Overall, the process was rather detailed but I wouldn't call it complicated.

hustla:
Many thanks for the indepth explanation

Could you share which programmes you got the invitation for? Both the initial one and the one you finally chose

Thanks

The way it works, is that while you are in the federal pool. Provinces skim through the pool offering provisional nominations to candidates they need. Sometimes, folks apply directly to the province for this. A candidate would then need to submit some documents to the province (plus pay a fee) but once the nomination letter is successful, they're pretty much guaranteed to be selected in the federal next draw cos the nomination is worth several hundred points. That candidate on arrival might need to be in that province for a period whereas if it was a direct federal draw (without need for a provisional nomination), such restrictions would not apply.


After applying, I got a nomination from Ontario. Kept it on hold as I felt I had the required scores to get in at the next federal draw.

Jamesclooney:
Thanks for sharing. For the new categories, any opportunities for supply chain professionals? Any links with more info as well?
Also how long is the Canada visitor visa process take? End-to-end, i.e. from submitting application to their request for your passport?

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/submit-profile/rounds-invitations/category-based-selection.html

This lists the professions eligible for a category based draw. Worth noting the job codes can be manytimes flexible. If you can't see yours but see related fields, it'd be worth reading the description of the job code to see what it actually entails.


With Canada, their process takes time. Visit visa took me about 8 months. Applied as a tourist, filled online form + showed funds and booked a refundable stay for my duration (cos I knew I'd need to cancel it later). After a month or 2, they asked for my biometrics. Took several more months for them to ask for my passport. I had just got a 10yr validity visa before commencing the process so overall multiple entry visit visa valid for 10yrs was worth the wait.

hustla:
Thanks Chief

I wish I was young-ish . Age kind of affects chances at PR for Canada but yes, I will explore all my options for sure

Yeah... so I thought. But with the new category based entry draws (which includes STEM), age has much less of an effect on the outcome. Moreso the cutoff for the category based draw is falling round by round (which could change soon as folks become more aware). For those near the cutoff, provinces would usually send then letters inviting them for a nomination which if acceptedand followed through essentially guarantees a PR. With UK experience in IT, one should be able to apply for tech jobs there which would give a work permit.
Considering the time and effort put you have put in and you being certain you'd want to continue in IT, the UK should work out but if it doesn't, it's worth not being boxed into a corner.

I'm above 30 and applied mid-last year- got a provisional nomination within a month (didn't accept it) and was picked up by the next federal draw a month afterwards. A bit of a wait and many docs requested and have now been invited to send my passport in to conclude the process. Overall, it was pretty straightforward.

Alternative could be to apply for a visit visa and get a feel directly- long wait but their visas are valid for the duration of the passport. I.e 10yrs for a 10yr passport validity.

hustla:
Thanks boss.

Yes boss. I'm not affected for now.. Our Ogas can decided to change it tomorrow though

Thankfully... Forget all the shenanigans, the UK would chase you when they need you. Na to find those pressure points.

Please do work to the top and avail yourself options even if it means using your two yrs.
Sounds like you're young-ish and the right demography. Options could include Canada, Aus and U.S. The later is handing out PR like water to folks with needed skills. Knew someone working in Amazon her earning £80k ish.. moved to Canada (same Amazon) and was a good difference.

DrAkpamudehe:
When black man go get sense? Curses don't work, dude. Grow up

You dey mind the lunatic. He's here spewing 'third world.'
Ask him why his forefathers didn't use similar statements to cripple colonial invaders and propel themselves to the top.

APOPTOSIS:
[s]You will remain a disgrace forever.
You will remain indebted forever.
Nigeria shall keep you in penury forever.
And you will never escape Nigeria.
You will remain beneath me forever.
None of your seeds shall ever rise against my pets.
So shall you remain!

You think na only you sabi curse...or get monopoly?
You are the first to get a curse from me online in decades and so shall it be. Libations poured!
Because we allow most of you to type rubbish here abi.
In Fact as it stands, I'm wealthier than the wealthiest in your community, so I don't know how you will catch up with me. It may take centuries 2 catch up with my pets.[/s]

Trash from a man who thinks he's 'third world'. That you think the nonsense you wrote works shows the size of your brain.

APOPTOSIS:
When you import THIRD WORLD into a First world, you gradually saturate the First world with Third world and eventually convert the First world into a Third World.

Obvious First World is fast becoming a Third World.
Let's expect more of this from the UK. It can only get worse. The zooish have relocated in dia numbers.
Very soon dump sites will take over the streets of the United Kingdom

You are a disgrace who lacks every iota of self worth.
For centuries, man has practiced religion.

hustla:
In other unrelated news, I finally completed my Msc Cybersecurity with Distinction

You all can come and chop jollof rice in June abi July

Bills on Lexusgs430

Big congrats!

You mentioned somewhere that the new immigration rules shouldn't affect current graduates. Hope you're included?

Acidosis:
Interesting question. I'm wondering what the FG/CBN intends to do with the trillions of Naira though.

Although I don't agree that mopping up Naira through FDs or bonds can curb inflation in a country like Nigeria, I get the whole textbook justification for mopping up funds. But, I'm just wondering what would be done with this cash.

Sometime in 2022, The Cable reported in a caption that "FG to repay N20trn 'Ways and Means' loans with treasury bills." During the same regime, FG also reported using TBs for infrastructure.

Good question. It's becoming obvious that most of these monies are just numbers of a computer.

Just like in 2017 ish, the increased rate should buy them time though- the activity on this thread is a testament. It serves as a plaster buying then 1-2 yrs to adress the underlying issues which are the actual drivers of inflation. The main question is what happens when these fresh monies are released in 1-2 yrs. If inflation is not under control by that time, then the new money would only fuel further devaluation.

Lexusgs430:
What would you rather do........ Treat them the same way federal government is treating boko haram, bandits & unknown gunmen..........

It's a very difficult situation, hamas should start by handing over all those they kidnapped......

We need Egypt to lead the mediation team
.......

Are you suggesting the Nigerian government does to northern Nigeria what Israel has done in Gaza?

The conflating issue here is equating over 1 million Palestinians in Gaza to hamas. That way, a genocide could be visited on them and still be excused.

Secondly, trying to address decades long conflict based on a single recent event. The unspoken consensus in the West is that the only path to future sustainable peace in Gaza is independence- something Isreal is radically opposed to. Trying to box 1.7 million people into perpertual subjugation would only breed more hate.

Lexusgs430:


Unfortunately, they are all complicit in the crimes committed....... .......

Given you believe this, should they all be killed?

[quote author=Zahra29 post=128916380][/quote]No need going adhominem.
This is hardly about my take on the care sector which has always been consistent. British taxes should pay for British care. If we need to rely on external workforce, they should be appreciated. Rather than use the care route as another form of modern slavery, it should be scrapped. If that means income tax goes up 75% or council taxes has to increase by 10% annually to pay for the ever balooning adult social care, so be it.

The new rules only instutionalise that exploitation. For decades the sector has been supported by migrant labour. It has only just come to the fore thanks to Brexit.
Finally, after 5 years of hard work on minimum wage with no family, they'd still become Brits and see that they've contributed more to the economy in 5 yrs than some of the folks they were waiting on did.

hustla:
Well, focus is truly the elections.. I think they'll still win anyways.

I'm also do think they'll likely increase the years required to get ILR (which will backfire).

Remains to be seen if the policies they have changed Will be reverted but i doubt though given that the public will see them as unreliable and not to be trusted

Time will tell

Don't be so sure. Suella had whispered it and her minions said afterall, the US...

All they need do is latch on to a case of extremist violence, ramp up anti-muslim rhetoric and bring it as the solution. They'd say it'd encourage integration and ensure only those who have imbibed 'British values' are allowed to stay. Folks would cheer afterall they made their decision while feeding on salary increase funded by immigration fees.

missjekyll:
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2024/mar/12/overseas-students-undermining-uk-higher-education-warns-cleverly


It seems Mr Rohypnol is not done with us yet. 😕. He ll flog this dead horse until it rots completely. However, for each stroke his party ll drop 2 points in the polls. I so decree

Hehe...

The UK utopia is to have 200k masters students on an mill handing them 20k and being returned after 2 years to make room for a new set. Aside the English speaking benefits it gives the Chinese (a dwindling number), a UK masters to most other cohorts is only valued on the access to immigration it gives.

They've played this game before and it backfired. They're now looking to see how much they can squeeze while retaining numbers. Good thing masters students are not waiting to be shafted over and are already voting with their legs.

Zahra29:
Sinister in what way? Strict perhaps, but also justifiable unless you expect the government to continue to turn a blind eye to unsustainable levels of migration coupled with rampant immigration abuse in certain sectors.

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The government here is not worried about ending abuse but rather restricting who perpetrates the abuse to themselves and also appearing tough on immigration as a last ditch attempt at the next election. Reports of rampant abuse have been in the media for years yet they looked on until numbers balooned.

Why was the salary treshold for care workers retained at an abysmal 20k when the wider treshold was increased?

Why have they made carers the only immigrant group who would be unable to bring family over hence restricting their right to family life?

All this ensures the government pays the least for social care by ensuring a streamlined supply of poorly paid care workers. This still does nothing to adress the abuse everyday care workers face- something that'd be sorted by higher pay

Ultimately, even the COS for even the new roles would still be sold on the black market.

deept:
Mehn!!!! We need to watch our health and try to be financially literate so we don't need to depend on the govt and care when we get older. I'm guessing a lot of us here are 'youngish' and we should start planning for retirement not getting the high paying jobs but how to keep as much of our money as we can and make more.

I'm thinking a life in the UK- money thread will be good

True...

Given the associated cost and restrictions of being an immigrant, it would be difficult for many to fully benefit from tools like ISAs and SIPPs to build long-term wealth. Moreso as investments do the best when started early and given time to compound. But OTOH, over time, many immigrant communities have been able to do so much with so little.

hustla:
......

The good thing though is that the £38K thing does not affect those who have just graduated but I see a sizable number of Nigerian students leaving the UK (a lot have left already or are planning to leave) as most of the policies are downright sinister and meant to restrict your upwards mobility.

That is exactly why I am always against the care thing or staying too long in it, as I see it as a carefully crafted way to push you into being lower class all your life, which will likely affect your kids too unless careful planning is put in place. Long hours away from family, low pay, and interactions with mostly low-class white people who are all out to drag you to their level, eventually it gets to you and your kids by extension.

I expect things to free up a bit within 1 yr and changes to be made, maybe a bit more stability

Ultimately, macroeconomics policies play a much more significant role in attainment than individual grit e.t.c.
Finally, those who remain would still become Brits and have all the welfare options available. They also have their mental health to look after, can go on professional longterm sick and with little wealth might ultimately need to depend on the state in old age.

Wouldn't surprise me the next move would be to increase ILR time to 10 years - milk the cow. More folks paying visa fees e.t.c


So far, we've not seen any forward planning from the government. Just knee-jerk reactions when quarterly migration data is released. Only severe shortages e.g HGV drivers or systemic issues e.g with universities would force their hand. Right now, focus is the lost election.

Goodenoch:
This has nothing to do with Nigerian immigrants, and you should react very strongly to anyone who attempts to make it look like it does.

What's the responsibility of the community of Nigerians in the UK with what this one man did? Is there not a huge amount of domestic violence in the UK by all sorts of people from all countries?

I'm all for taking responsibility to fix up as a community where necessary but this one man and his madness is his personal problem and no justification for anyone to give Nigerians a bad name.

Thanks for this.

It's thesame focus about how the media shapes our subconscious that I alluded to while back which ultimately erodes our self-esteem
Why are we not making posts of the overwhelming majority of Nigerians that are not beating their wives... Are those not a positive influence?

Of all the atrocities the British empire commited worldwide, I dont see everyday Brits walking around with a sense of guilt.

ehizario2012:
He is Nigerian, that's a fact that cannot be denied. His action has not added value to us, and we must condemn it....

Why do you feel the need to condemn the misdemeanor of every Nigerian in the UK?