gbadexy: These are stillshots from the water repellant based external paint. Since videos can't be uploaded here, took the shots for people who couldn't check my facebook link to see. Ideal in coastal areas with high humidity and areas with high rainfall. It has self cleaning property also as the rolling water would pick up dirt along on the surface.
Around Odolewu my brother, just for sentimental reasons tho. I am from there and will like to own something there one day.
megacontrol: Same here. Which part of ogun state are you looking at?
Maybe someone can share insights on prime locations in Ogun State? WIll prefer to limit to ijebu zones i.e. Ijebu Ode, Sagamu, Iperu and the likes. Epe or Egba are out of reckoning this time around.
rotecch77: Infact it’s beta you act fast o bcs the place will skyrocket soon I’m in serous discussion with one of my client to get like 10 acres there for mini estate.
I just did HDF Doors for all the interior doors in my build hoping they last ooo!
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true2home: I pay a lot of attention to maintenance in my builds. HDF and the like is an assembly of multiple parts. I prefer for " one piece" member. With time and Nigeria's harsh condition and usage, The edges of those multiple members will start to fail. Secondly, scratches will happen, and it will be hard to refinish to match original prints on the HDF. The " ONE Piece" wooden door can be sand and re polish. That's my reasoning against HDF and likes. Same reason i went for Local metal door for my main entrance on my newer build. I love the craftmanship of the Chinese door and american door, but the longevity of the furnishing is very minimal.
n3xt: I'm very sorry for the late reply. I was swamped with work.
I have witnessed the installation of the bio-digester but it was quite a long time now and we've done series of discussion on the system (the pros and cons).
I think it's a very cool solution and I'd recommend it. One of the major challenge right now is getting a perfect installer as my verified contact for the installation of the system is unreachable now.
What I can do to help is to visit one of his old installations to get his details. I hope that's fine.
Thank you very much my brother! I will very much appreciate that. The Lord shall continue to raise your hands up!!
Pls. do you have any experience with the bio-digester system, I am really considering it, but want to know more? I see all the ads, but I respect your opinion. Thanks!
diordaves: Of course is your experience and preference. But Haverty's and IKEA are in a different market segment.
Our Prime Minister Boris Johnson when he got into office, he met IKEA furnishings done by the former Prime Minister Theresa May. His then girl friend wasn't a fan of IKEA, so they cleared out the IKEA furnishings and replaced everything with John Lewis furnishings from borrowed funds. He got into trouble. Not only because he had to borrow funds from anonymous sources but also from those who swear by IKEA.
So yes. Some people can't do IKEA mostly because of the self assembly but not because IKEA is substandard. That's not my experience of over the years.
Ok, again preference ; Honestly, I am not handy, so, hence my personal distaste for IKEA, I would radar buy what’s already put together and sturdy.
13 complete toilets, 3 kitchens taps and 2 WC. but pls. state you quote here first.
olaleye2real: Good morning sir... Please how many toilet do u have there sir . Sir maybe we can chat, so we talk better... My WhatsApp number here .. 08162811003... Thanks
Pls. can any plumber here/anyone give me an idea of how much to pay for installation of all bathroom fixtures, i.e toilet, washhand basin, taps...complete set.
spyder880: Understanding the building materials market in Nigeria.
This thread is for everything in building construction, of which building materials is a strong part of. We want to xray the building materials market, procurement processes and the best way to position yourself so you can get the best of the open market. Part of my growing up years were spent in a market in Enugu, so I know the inside operations of a normal market.
There are two types of building materials markets operating in Nigeria, the Supermarkets and the open market, in the supermarkets, tou can get your materials in a more organized manner, goods are well arranged and sometimes the costs are known and displayed on items. You can even get a price quote online, there are no chances of haggling for prices, the best you can get is a discount from the owners or managers. But these shops are very few at this time of our economic development.
We are going to concern ourselves with the open markets, because they constitute over 90% of the purchases we make as small players in the construction sector in Nigeria. I am talking of markets like Alaba international market, Main market Onitsha, Orile, Tejuosho, Dei Dei in Abuja, Mile 3 market in Port Harcourt, Building materials international market, Ogidi, Anambra state, plus other markets across the country where building materials are sold.
The open market is mostly controlled by sole proprietors, those entrepreneurs that own their business and control it directly, by themselves, their immediate family members or by their workers and apprentices. These people take all the risks and usually operate with zero insurance. They also dont get any help from any government as they build their own markets and operate them. If these groups of sellers lose their wares either by road accidents, fire, rain, flood or theft, they absorb all the impact and can go under, or restart their business if they can raise more funds. Some goods can also expire even while inside the shops, or go obsolete. I am just preparing our minds so we can understand why some things happen the way they do in our markets.
There are about three types of sellers in every market, they are the wholesalers, the retailers and the hustlers.
The wholesalers dont usually advertise their precence, or their locations, in fact, most wholesalers are either manufacturers or importers. They like to sell their goods to only known major retailers, while they remain in the background to advertise their goods and collect their payments. The wholesalers sells good on credit to trusted retailers, sometimes on credit. If you as a small buyer gets to meet a whole seller, you will discover that most building materials are cheaper than what you have been paying for them. Wholesale prices are much cheaper, but the problem is on how to find the funds to buy on wholesale, or who will lead you to a wholesaler.
The retailer buys from the wholesaler, in bulk. He then displays his goods for smaller buyers like us, and factors in his overheads and his profits. The retailer usually has many shops staffed by workers and apprentices, and sometimes, a warehouse where bigger quantities are stocked. They usually stay in their showrooms where they sample latest products. The retailers might not have time to persuade customers compared to the next group.
Then there are the hustlers, they are everywhere, they are well known to everyone, they are just in the market to direct you to whatever you want to buy, at a cost of course. They sell everything in the market, while they have no shops of their own. They are usually efficient salespeople, sweettalking people into buying things they dont need, and assuring you of the best performances of their chosen brand of products. They are also well dressed, well spoken, exudes confidence while interacting with customers. They can invade and occupy any shop and claim to be the owner, and the owners shift for them to sell the goods, funny right?
Well, the psychology behind the hustlers is that they serve a need in the market. They close the gap between the customers who has little knowledge about the market and the actual goods they need. The hustlers has complete knowledge of shops where they can get bargains, current prices, plus all othe necessary information needed to make a sale. They can intercept a customer from the gate, or from the lines, they then take the people to a chosen shop where the good is sold, they sit down behind the desk and ask you to sit down also, the owner and his boys will just move away as the hustler stays to sell, if an item is selling for N100, the hustler will aim to sell at N110, or N120. After payment, he will write a receipt at the shop and order the boys to give you the goods, he escorts you out of the shop, then returns back to collect the extra money on the top of the known cost of the item, the more quantity, the better for him.
For us buyers, its usually better if we have some knowledge on what we are buying, so we can spot the fakes. There are about 3 classes of each good. The original, the second best, and the fake.
While I cannot rule out the bad practices of some unscrupulous individuals selling fakes to unsuspecting people, I also believe some people ask to be shortchanged. A customer comes to the market and asks of good A, the seller tells you the cost, and the customer starts to haggle for reduction, the seller might refuse to sell. The customer goes to another shop and repeats same, the second seller might have a lower quality or class, and sells to the customer at a reduced price, and the customer goes home with a reduced quality. Later on he will discover from friends and family that there is a better quality out there and he will start to blame the seller. But remember, the first seller told you the cost of the original.
Whenever you go out to the open market to buy something, always "shine your eyes" be careful and alert, but remember, there are still many honest salespeople out there, I have am friends with many of them and they are the first to call me if there will be a major development in the market. I get first hand gist on price increases, price reductions or new product offerings in the market. We need to work out a smooth relationship with our dealers so we make the best of our own work.
Thank you all.
Thank you for your knowledge! I actually had an experience with an hustler, he had a "shop" on jiji, I contacted him, had my boy follow him to his "shop" which off course was someone else's shop (warehouse), we bought 13 external German Steel doors from him. Now, my boy that I sent to him was also very sharp, he found that he is just a hustler and cornered one of the boys at the shop who happened to be his home boy, he told him the bottom-line price to pay (in their language)for the door. and off course, it was less than what was posted on jiji.
Bakin3: Call for your bio digester(septic tank) construction. The advantages of Bio Digester toilet are as follows: No Dislodging of Human Waste Cooking Gas can be generated from it It's eco-friendly No foul smell Needs only a small space Suitable for any soil condition No contamination of groundwater etc
Sir, I really have been thinking about this system, I am going to be needing your service soon.
[quote author=bixton post=104616123]I don't understand the kind of trust you're looking for if you've not seen just one person to have a trust on to complete your project or have anything to do with........
Brother, I come in peace, there are several people here who can testify they have worked or supplied materials to me, not everyone make noise, I read, I learn, I apply what I have learned. Even spyder880 has advised on my build. Funny thing is, as we speak I engaged someone (not on Nairaland) to do wardrobes and kitchen cabinets for me, I paid for HDF board, just to check I sent some, he used MDF board, he has since disappeared! I already paid #2M! Even the person that recommended him him is dumbfounded! Now, what do I do, I had to get a new person to change and salvage whatever I can.
Now, all this happened because I am not on ground! and I TRUSTED people to do certain things and have integrity!
GoodFaith: My bro bless you for your hard Keep up hope save your money and go do what you can on your visit You need to balance what you want in your life Because if all your kids are out of Nigeria Invest in your present location --If you can't buy house in your present location , do stock market If you have good friends five of you can do it together but you must have contract or all your names must be on the " deed" It is one step at a time
Yes, yes, family is VERY WELL TAKEN CARE OF, Nigeria is just my personal passion, family does even want to come to Naija.
Your family might likely take your properties later
GoodFaith: The issue with clients and contractors have to do with Nigerians attitude We Nigerians don't like to do things the correct way Money na God
"I urge all the young people in our midst, and indeed all of us, to approach business with honesty, both contractors, suppliers and clients, the most enduring businesses" by spyder880
Life with honesty not short cut
My Brother, you are one of a kind! You are so encouraging!! if you only knew the kind of stories clients deal, with,(i speak from that angle because I am one) I had a friend killed in Nigeria because he came home and there was no house built by the said contractor who later conspired with the brother to kill this man. I personally have been taken advantage of because I am not on ground by some on this forum and some not. Nigerians just do not understand that word "TRUST" it has plagued us everywhere we have been in this world. Till date, I am still looking for just ONE person I can "TRUST" in Nigeria, including family members, to complete my project and there is NON! Many promise to be honest until they see money, or its in their hands and the story changes. Off course everyone has their own side of the story. GOD BLESS YOU
Hello House, has anyone used Builders Depot.ng in Mushin, Lagos for Doors? any reviews? are they trustworthy? Thanks for your comments Please guys this is really needed!!
Adedward, I have been quiet for years now about you and I CANNOT believe you!! Are talking about integrity! You do NOT want me to open the book on you. You did the very same thing with me! Plus others!
Adedward: thanks for ur words boss, ( The issues) it's a pity for hsl broker dat run loss for this, I think I called him like 20 times den about the prices of things in market den, But without any gud answer, I already know dat hsl will run loss for this because changing in prices everyday, almighty God will visit him, in aboundantly, everyone here dats business with me know me very well, I don't do such a thing, to my clients, I have many withnss here, if we are doing in business and price are getting high, I will inform the client many times to know dat things are getting higher every blessed day, thanks
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jeff68: 7:08pm On Sep 11, 2021
