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aletheia:
@Joagbaje & mba emeka

Biblical divine healing versus other types of healing

There are basically five types of healing in the world today.
1. Biblical Divine Healing,
2. Natural Healing,
3. Medicinal/Medical Healing,
4. Psychological Healing, and
5. Paranormal/Demonic Healing.



Biblical Divine Healing
True Biblical Divine Healing is[b] immediate, lasting, verifiable and all the glory goes to Jesus Christ.[/b]

(a) Immediate
All the examples of Biblical Divine Healing in the New Testament were accomplished by the power of God instantaneously. They were not done by the person (with the exception of Jesus Christ Himself) but were done through the person by the Holy Spirit. God is the only One who can do a creative healing (hence why these false healers start stammering when you ask them why aren't amputees being healed today). All other healings are natural or lying wonders, but only God can create. Healings in the NT never took a long time. They were always accomplished the same day, and in most cases were instantaneous.
(b) Lasting
All Biblical Divine Healings were lasting. They lasted for the rest of the person's natural life. They did not wear off. The person that was healed did not have to come back for repeated treatments or healings.
(c) Verifiable
All Biblical Divine Healings were verifiable. The NT healings were obvious healings. The most obvious were recorded as proof. Nearly half the incidents of healings in the NT that are descriptively recorded are of the most obvious kind, completely verifiable, beyond question. The people who were healed were well known in the community, in fact they were known by their ailment. The NT incidents of obvious healings were used as proof, as a sign verifying who Jesus Christ was and the validity of the ministry and the authority of the Apostles.
A few examples will suffice
Matthew 4:24 News about him spread all over Syria, and people brought to him all who were ill with various diseases, those suffering severe pain, the demon possessed, those having seizures, and the paralyzed, and he healed them.
Matthew 8:3 Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!" Immediately he was cured of his leprosy.
Matthew 8:8, 13 The centurion replied, "Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go! It will be done just as you believed it would." And his servant was healed at that very hour.
Due to space and time constraints, I will list some verses and the ailments cured.
Matthew 8:14-15 - fever
Matthew 9:21-22  - 12 years bleeding
Matthew 11:5  - blind, lame, leprosy, the deaf, the dead
Matthew 12:10 - a man with a shriveled hand
Matthew 15:30 - the lame, the blind, the crippled, the mute
Matthew 21:14 - the blind and the lame came to him at the temple, and he healed them.
Mark 1:42 - leprosy
Mark 5:23 - dying daughter
Mark 10:52 - public figure known to be blind
Luke 7:7 - dead son
Luke 7:21 - diseases, sicknesses and evil spirits, blind.
Luke 8:50 - daughter dead
Luke 13:10-13 - crippled for eighteen years
Luke 14:4 - dropsy (heart failure)
Luke 17:15 - 10 lepers
John 5:9-10 - an invalid for thirty-eight years
John 11:1 - Lazarus raised from the dead
Acts 3:16 - crippled from birth
Acts 8:7 - paralytics and cripples
Acts 9:40 - dead woman
Acts 14:9 - a man crippled in his feet, who was lame from birth and had never walked.
Acts 28:8 - fever and dysentery
If you would deign to study these scriptures, you will note the immediacy of all the healings. Furthermore the diseases listed were incurable at that time of history.

(d) All Glory to God
All the glory goes to God for Biblical Divine Healing because it is impossible for anything or anyone to effect Biblical Divine Healing except God Himself. Divine healing can occur at any time or any place. God can heal in response to the prayers of the righteous (James 5:16) in answer to the prayers of the elders in a local church (James 5:14) or simply because God wants to heal someone. I see no evidence in Scripture AT ALL of divine healing occurring as a sign to justify false teachers or false prophets. I believe it is possible for a person to receive divine healing anywhere. It is even remotely possible for God to heal someone for His own purposes at a meeting of a false teacher, but in that case it is also a test and the responsibility of that Christian to understand that the Lord did the healing and he is commanded to get away from false teachers as Jesus and the Apostles told us to do.

To definitively prove that a healing is a Biblical Divine Healing today. . .that healing would have to be
(1) of an incurable condition
(2) obvious
(3) verifiable
(4) a problem well known to many people
(5) immediate
(6) lasting and
(7) ascribed alone to the glory of God Who accomplished it by His omnipotent power alone.
If it does not meet ALL these criteria it should not be used to prove it is a type of Biblical Divine Healing.

As the LORD permits, I will post later concerning the other types of healing.

In conclusion. . .

aletheia:
^^^
Evasive. Pastor Agbaje will neither answer yes nor no to those questions even if his life depends on it. So let me lend a hand.

Enigma:
What I'm getting at is that you are WRONG, and it is indeed heresy, to say that Jesus was just "a man who operated by faith".

OK here are some other simple questions.


1. When Jesus was in Mary's womb, was He God or not?

2. When Jesus was born, was He God or not?

3. When Jesus was aged 12, was He God or not?

4. At age 30 just before His baptism, was Jesus God or not?

5. Immediately after His baptism, was Jesus God or not?

6. When He did all His miracles, was Jesus God or not?

KunleOshob:
Obviously she would collect her own share of the loot via halimony!

mba emeka:
Hebrew 2:14

forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same: that through DEATH he might destroy him that had the power of DEATH that is the devil:

Hebrew 2:16

for verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Enigma:
This is double-speak to avoid facing the truth. OK, I simplify it --- answer these two/four questions:

1. When Jesus turned water into wine did He do it by His power as God; OR did He do it as a man "using and operating by faith"?

2. When Jesus raised the son of the widow at Nain from the dead, did He do it by His power as God; OR did He do it as a man "using and operating by faith."

saharachic:
Pastor, Pastor, Which one is Heavenly Gbam! Apostle Paul will spit on your face if he was still alive.

Enigma:
Kunle, you are right and ultimately it becomes unavoidable to name names even though we tried to avoid it for the sake of peace with fellow posters like Joagbaje.

By the way does anyone notice that Joagbaje has not denied what I said about WoF doctrine in that they deny that Jesus is God and say he was just another man who "operated by faith"? I will repeat that post and let us see if Joagbaje has the courage to either confirm OR deny it.

ikhideman:
@ Aletheia & Poster

There's no need arguing my Heavenly Father's Words with you because they forever Settled in Heaven. But for the sake of those who might not be too sure, Check out John 4:47-53, in KJV it says the words: "began to amend" meaning the healing didn't happen instantly. Besides, there have been, there is & there will continue to be instant healings because Jesus gave us the authority and even declared that greater works we who are His would do because we believe (John 14:12).
The fact that you haven't witnessed one doesn't mean they don't still happen. In fact, I've witnessed an instant miracle were one of an elderly man's legs that was shorter than the other grew to become equal with the other one in Abuja.

The length of time it takes depends "most times" on the faith of the person; Mark 9:23 - "be it unto you according to your faith". Other times the faith of the Pastor can make it happen, but the person can only keep his healing by building up his faith.

Recardo:
But why would these pastors be rejoicing and swaying the crowds after a miracle? Jesus told the healed ones never to sin no more and he went his way, he even commanded some to even keep it confidential. So what are we seeing nowadays?

aletheia:
Cause most are frauds.
The bible shows that all the miracles whether by Jesus or the apostles were immediate. No delay. You allude to the fig tree as an example of delayed miracle. Sorry to disappoint you but this is written in scripture:

If you were honestly handling the word of truth, you would have referred not only to the incident as described in Mark but also in Matthew! It quite clear from the narrative that Mark describes the continuing amazement of the disciples the following morning at the withered tree while Matthew describes the event as it occurred. Once again you demonstrate your penchant to pick and choose and twist scriptures to buttress your erroneous doctrines.
I fear that as a "pastor", you are seriously misleading people. "Jesus too had to grow in spiritual things"?
What scripture says that? Are you now preaching that nonsense that some New Age people preach?
Do you understand this scripture?
And you are even calling the Lord Jesus a liar!
Repent of your evil.

Drusilla:
Ciaralover,

Sorry, here's a more direct scripture reference.

Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith who blows the coals in the fire, and who brings out a tool for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against you shall be blessed; and every tongue that shall rise against you in judgment, you shall condemn. This is the inheritance of the servants of Jehovah, and their righteousness is from Me, says Jehovah.

Graphical:
If you call your "praise" on one part and "derogatory" remark, name calling etc as on the other part as your own great commission, then good luck to you.

So has it been before you came into this world and so will it continue until you do your part and leave. But do you know what? The church of God still march on, [i][/i]

Let all men be lies , including "You"