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It seems your emphasis is just this " evil"part . But ask yourself , will a good God create evil?

That's judgement. It's a tree who's fruit contains the knowledge of judgement.

Well he didn't say "tree of evil" but the tree of "knowledge" of good and evil. In a short form I will say, " tree of knowledge" as emphasis

Much has been said that God put evil tree in the garden to tempt Adam. From my study on this I did not see anything that made the tree evil. can a good God produce bad thing?

Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Genesis 3:6
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

what now make the tree evil. If God says all were good. was it the content of the fruit that is bad.?

I think where the muslim got it wrong was in the language that God used calling the boy Abraham's only son.

Genesis 22:2
And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
Since Ishmael was the first, It was assumed God was refering to him as his only son. Probably before Isaac was born. But the truth of the matter was that God was refering to Isaac because Ishmael was not Gods plan, he was born of flesh, spiritually he does not exist as far as Abrahamic covenant is concerned, It was Isaac that was born of faith and the word of God. That is why God used the word "thy only son"

Usury simply refer to banking system. Loans and interest. It was against Gods will for Israelites to lend out money with interest to one another. but they were allowed to lend with interest(usury) to strangers

Deut. 23:20
Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
. It Also refer to putting your money in the bank to yield interest. Jesus refers to it as a managable last resort investment.In the parable of the talents Jesus said instead of keeping the money idle, it should have been invested in the bank.

Luke 19:23
Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

There are different levels of truth in God. There are lesser truths and higher truth. In primary school, 1 minus 2 is imposible but in secondary school ,1 minus 2 has an answer which is -2. So it is in Christ. There i spiritual milk for bebes and strong meat for the mature ones. but they are all truths at different levels. A baby may beg and ask. but adults dont ask , they just collect.

Peter was writing to babies here because babies live on milk.

1 Peter 2:2
   As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

But check Paul out here.

Hebrews 5:13-14
   For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. [14] But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

"Give us this day our daily bread is baby prayer" but it can sell for a while. Soon it wont work again.  There is nothing you want to ask God he has not given you in Christ.

1 Cor. 3:21
   Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

Mark 11:24
   Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
So you must have faith in the finished work of christ that you have an inheritance. You draw ffrom your heavely account with your mouth rcognising you are blessed already,God knows your need and has mad provisions for all your needs. You call forth what you need. " i receive my car this year  in the name of Jesu"  You Thank God For them " Father I thank you,I have my admission in Jesus name" etc.¦

Marlbron:
Please read mathew 17; 10 -12 and explain that in view of your preference for the term annointing rather than spirit

I still want to know where you got the impression that Elijah entered heaven with his body. Or let me ask, where is heaven?

All the time God took people, he took them alive bodily. beginning with Enoch , Elijah, There is debate on Moses because of his missing body, Jesu also was taken up bodily.
The old saints that went to heaven with Jesus went bodily too. Graves had to open for them. A spirit does not need grave or door to open.

Matthew 27:52-53
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, [53] And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Paul also talked about how he went to heaven bodily. Though this had debates and controversy.

2 Cor. 12:2-4
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven. [3] And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth [4] How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

God always take people bodily, The next event is the rapture , we shall go bodily too.

1 Thes. 4:17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Heaven is a place in God, beyond human calculation. The bible talked about three classes of heaven.
I know people generaly point upwards to heaven but we know the earth is spherical and the upward poiting dont make spiritual sence. If its a planet somewhere I dont know.But all I know is that heaven is above this realm of life. .

You dont need to junp from church to church as some do, Its a sign of spiritual instability.There is no duration for a church , But if you must leave a church , three factors are important. If your spiritual hunger can no longer be satisfied there, or the church is teaching or practising things contrary to truth or most importantly, if the spirit of God witness in your heart to leave to a better place where you can be more fed.

Whatever the case you must pray and be led of God . The fact that something upset you in a church isnot a reason to leave.

there are proper ways to leave a church.Dont leave a church out of conflicts. cnflicts comes to be resolved in every relationship.You must resolve every conflict first and if God says "Go" so be it . It is good to let your pastor know your decisions and reasons. I was once in a church 19 years ago I newly got born again, the messages were almost all the time were always "you are blessed" and "you shall be blessed today" which was wonderful ,but I had so much hunger to know the bible, I needed explanations on several issues, i had questions, and I had so much hunger for soul winning . When I came in contact with my present ministry, I just felt at home, teaching , soulwining programmes, training programmes. plus "you are blessed" as jara. I informed my former pastor, he prayed for me. Its been beautiful ever since.

If you leave a church for whatever reason, avoid speaking negatively about the pastor you left, firstly because he is a man of God,and also ,this man must have been a blessig to you one way or the other .Appreciate him as you move on in your faith walk.

Exodus 22:28
Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.

1 Chron. 16:22
Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

Jude 1:8
Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Acts 23:5
Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.

Enigma:
The question you have not answered is this: from the OLD Testament to the NEW Testament, is there a change in the requirement concerning circumcision and unclean food or not?

Very simple: is there a change or not?

There is a change of course

Marlbron:
Coming in the spirit of Elijah is not making reference to the human spirit

I still do not see how the use of spirit should be interpreted. Please explain better.

So you are sure that Elijah is still alive in his old body? Any bibilical reference?

So because he went up, he entered heaven with his body? Is that scriptural or a figment of your imagination?

What the hell is annointing?Please define?

The word spirit is often used to denote the temper, disposition; thus we say, a man of a generous spirit, or of a revengeful spirit,proud spirit.jealous spirit. etc. It is also used for the anointing of God's  spirit upon a person. ; spirit of wisdom, spirit of might, etc
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Numbers 5:14
And the spirit of jealous[/b]y come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled:

[b]Deut. 34:9
    And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as the Lord commanded Moses.

The coming of John also was in the anointing of Elijah . This is different from the human spirit of Elijah. The details were given to John's father Zechariah, in Luke

Luke 1:16-18
    And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God. [17] And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord. [18] And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years.

You also have to remember that  John was not the first person to functioon in the spirit of Elijah. Elisha who was most junior among sons of the prophets once desired this.

2 Kings 2:9
    And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spiri[/b]t be upon me.

When Elijah was finally taken up ,he got what he desired, the spirit of Elijah came on hin. The anointing  of the office.

[b]2 Kings 2:15
    And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him.

They bowed to him despite the fact that he was the lowest in rank before. The spirit ,bold ness ,audacity and powerr of Elijah. Elijah was a very passionae man for God, remember how he killed prophet of baaal.

1 Kings 19:10
    And he (Elijah) said, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left;

That was the kind of anointing , attitude,power and audacity needed to precede Jesus because as at this time,there was so much divisions among the jews ,there were numerous sects, John had to unite everybody in preparation.

Jesus needed to ask if they will receive it because ,they didnt beleive in Jesus as messiah, becasue they were still waiting for Elijah, So Jesus had to tell them Elijah has come already, .The statement was to confirm that the messiah has come since "elijah" has already come

Coming in the spirit of Elijah is not making reference to the human spirit. There are different kinds of usage .
Spirit of sportsmanship, spirit of a warrior.etc. Spirit couldt be used for attitude,character. and also the invisible inner man .You dont just get carried away by the word spirit. The spirit of a man becomes free from the body at death. Elijah did not die, He is still alive in his old body. He couldnt have left his body in heaven and pick another body in Mary, then after they beheaded him ,he picked up another body,
The spirit of Elijah is not making reference to the inner self but the anointing , which is the operation of God's power in his life. It is talking about the kind of grace upon Elijah, it represents an office and not personality. If you hear a deeper life pastor preach ,he doesnt need introduction. because of the spirit or the grace upon that ministry,

Philip. 1:7 , "ye all are partakers of my grace".

Romans 8:9
, Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Spirits dont forget, spirits are immortal. Elijah as a spirit would not have forgotten he came before, whe John wsa asked if he was Elijah he said "NO".

Enigma:
Fact is you don't even know what you are saying; you don't understand the meaning of "I change not" that you are bandying about! Otherwise, explain why there is no longer a requirement for circumcision; explain why we can now eat "unclean food".

We can now eat unclean food because they represented the gentiles under the law. Now we are one
We still do circumcision but not to be justified by it.

Col. 2:11
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

I dont ask God for anything because all things are mine. He given me all already. So whatsoever i desire , ijust thank him for it and confess they are mine. But there are times I have to make fervent prayers to intercede for others in my world. for sinners to come into light.But i dont really ask God for personal things again.

I think you are confused, You have a pastor, go to him to help you out of your confussion, thats if you are really a christian o.You said you dont want to touch the anointed. You have touched them already by this your stinker on Nairaland. A pastor does what God instructs him, not what people demands of him
A pastor is a man anointed over a congregation,not over Aso Rock. There are different callings.   
                               
Ephes. 4:11-12
    And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; [12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Some prophets have the callings to speak to governments but not all. Idahosa was a man like that. It was even alledged he was reponsible for Murtala muhamed's death because Murtala ask for the church to be demolished. Idahosa gave them six months to change or else,  and six months exactly Murtala died. Nobody touched the church building again.

They dont owe anybody explanation concerning their calling. They do what God calls them to do. A wise ruler will consult men of God for conselling. like Pharaoh did with Joseph.
A pastor's primary assignment is to feed the flock with knowledge. He is also a christian so he prays for the land.
It is wrong to speak against men of God ,especially as a christian. neither are you supposed to speak against the Political leaders.

Exodus 22:28
    Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.

Romans 13:1-2
    Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. [2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

How do we do with bad leaders? Pray for them. There are demon spirit making them do wrong thing ;corruption, assasination, wickedness. We can neutralise their works through prayers.

1 Tim. 2:1-3
    I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; [2] For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. [3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

Many people get into government with good intention but spirits are waiting for them in these offices. .Prayer is the answer by all of us. leave pastors alone

1 am the greatest man ever!

1 John 5:16
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

Sin unto death is a matter for spiritualy mature people. maybe thats why nobody wants to comment. it is an in house matter not for umbelievers.
Sin unto death is a Spiritual sin that can not be forgiven. The individual is damned forever and can never be saved again. Some call it unpardonable sin. Some people have wondered if they had committed the sin. If you are wondering so ,it only means you have not commited it. This sin cant be commited by mistake, it cant be commited by baby christians,it can only be commited by people that have been very matured as christians .It is an outright denial of the lordship of christ.

Hebrews 6:4-6
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, [5] And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, [6] If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Hebrews 10:29
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

For such a person you dont need to pray for him or preach to him because his conscience has been harden demonically.

Matthew 12:31
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Those who criticise men of God unecesarily on nairaland should watch it, because they dont know the spirit that is pushing them. I didnt say they are damned o. because many of them are just expressing their ignorance.

only a mature christian can commit. not all these ignorant attackers

@ Malbron

Marlbron:
* raised = resurrect

come = reincarnate

Joagbaje,

Read the account of the transfiguration and what the disciples said to christ after they saw the vision. christ himself comfirmed that Elija had come as John the baptist.

Read also the angel telling his Father that he will come in the spirit of Elija. What else ? read the thread!

The first thing you need to realise is that Elijah never died! According to your doctrine of reincarnation, a man has to die first. Elijah was caught up alive. so also was Enoch.

Hebrews 11:5
    By faith[b] Enoch was translated that he should not see death;[/b] and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. [/b]

John was not Elijah but he came with Elijah kind of anointing or ministry, He could challenge the king, He dresed like Elijah.But he was not Elijah, He only came in the spirit of Elijah


Luke 1:17
    And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

John himself admitted he wasnt Elijah  when people confronted him.

John 1:21
    And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

The only time Elijah appeared in person was at the mount of transfiguration. If he was John ,they would have addressed him as john and not as Elijah , because they knew him.
John was a greater prophet than Elijah .Jesus also testified that John was the greatest of all prophets

Matthew 11:11
    Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

To come in the spirit of elijah is to come in the power or anointing of Elijah. Just like when the bible says "The spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet"

1 Cor. 14:32
    And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

In creation, the fishes came from water, they depends on the water to survive, trees came from the ground, they depend on the ground for survival, fruit came from the tree etc. Man came from God, He is dead without God. Theres vacuum in man that Only God can fill. Man is not bor atheist but man is naturaly religious, Put him in a jungle he will look for a God. There is no real atheist ,all these atheist shouting here and there are only looking for attention due to their frustrations and emptyness and disappontment , but deep down, they know there is a God they only try to deny it That is why in every culture they believe there is a God in heaven, religion is their way of searching for him. You dont teach a dog how to bark , there is something in every puppy, he knows he has to bark ,it is his calling.

You should have pasted a free devotional copy here for us to read

@pastor AIO

I just re read your sermon, I missed out some things initially. I agree with your poin that we should not give for selfish reasons and God is concerned about our motives and attitudes in giving. Infact ,Jesus major war with the pharisees was in their motives, they give openly so as to recieve prases of men. Jesus was not against giving openly but the motive of selfishness of recieving praises of men. We should give out of love , But that does not negate the expectation that God has promised. There are times the thought giving may not be sweet maybe there are certain challenges, but The way out is to give. You do it any how, and the miracle takes place.
There is cheerful giving , But there are times the giving may not be cheerful, but driving by faith and love and the glory of the harvest.

Psalm 126:5-6
They that sow in tears shall reap in joy. [6] He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.

Abraham killing his son Isaac ,Was is Cheerful?

Pastor AIO:
There is nothing here either that says that we ought to give with expectation of receiving back. Let me break down the scriptures that you have quoted one by one.

This passage is about faith and not about giving, whether to the pastor or to anyone for that matter. Maybe it is the reward part that is confusing you. It means that if you diligently seek him then you'll find him, and finding him is the reward.

There is nothing here either about giving, to pastor or to anyone for that matter. The end result for which Jesus endured the cross is the 'joy that was set in front of him'. Nothing about giving anyone money or receiving any money back in return.

The plowing that he is talking about here is the ministry that he did amongst the corinthians. Paul didn't give them any money in the hope that he would receive money from them.

You are misunderstanding me. You have an idea that it is wrong to sow and expect a harvest or to do a giving motivated by harvest. I am trying to let you know it is perfectly right to sow and expect a harvest , based on principles of faith . Jesus was motivated by the harvest. I wasnt just talking about money but dealing with the wrong idea of not having expectation . So the scriptures were to show you from different aspec that there must be expectation in any deed of faith not about giving to pastor.

But concerning giving to pastor, Paul also talked about it here.

Galatians 6:9
And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Galatians 6:7
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Pastor AIO:
Joagbaje has competition.

The guy just prayed and prophesied , You are supposed to say amen! instead you grabbed your pocket. Has he asked you for money?. The poverty mentality is a serious matter o. So anywhere you go now,once you hear Jesus! you quickly hold your pocket! . SAY AMENN!

Pastor AIO:
I beg your pardon, where does it say above that you ought to give in expectation of a reward.

Ha alhaji, You are still asking this,


Galatians 6:9
   And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

It is a sign of faith to have expectation for the end result. Faith is substance of things hoped for.When you make a giving ,you should be sure of your harvest.God has said it , I should lay hold on it. That is faith

Luke 6:38
   Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

If you pray you should have expectation of answer , that is faith.

Mark 11:24
   Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

I know you guys will say " i just pray to worship , i dont want to expect anything" iro nla ni o!

Deep Sight:
^^^^ Brilliant Pastor.
I am soooooo tired of the whole idea of "giving" in expectation of a reward.
That is not "giving" but a calculated investment no different from a Shylock.

It a form of lack of faith when you give without expectation, As you give to worship you must have expectation of a harvest

Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

there is nothing wrong in being motivated by the end result or harvest . Jesus was motivated by the end result. Thats what kept him going.

Hebrews 12:2
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

1 Cor. 9:10
Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

They were gathered on sunday when Jesus appeared to them,thomas was missing

John 20:19
Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
The second sunday they were gathered again and he still came.

John 20:26
And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

And other account by apostles also confirm sunday worship

Acts 20:7
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

1 Cor. 16:2
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

The bible says he that kill by the sword shall die by the sword. These are not just judgement but reference to the law of sowing and reaping. Which means there is ripple effect on every thing that happens on this planet.
A wicked king Adoni-bezek in the bible days was brutally totured by the israelites by cutting off his thumb and toe. but unknowingly to them, he had done the same thing to others before. The law caught up with him.

Judges 1:6-7
But Adoni-bezek fled; and they pursued after him, and caught him, and cut off his thumbs and his great toes. [7] And Adoni-bezek said, Threescore and ten kings, having their thumbs and their great toes cut off, gathered their meat under my table: as I have done, so God hath requited me. And they brought him to Jerusalem, and there he died.

mabell:
Does that mean I dont have to go to church? Since Sunday service is "illegal"?

Please oo, I should not be misunderstood. God is not against our sunday worship. Jesus recognised that christians meet on sundays to honour him. If he had any issues ,he would have told them. He appeared to them at least twice when they were gathered for worship on sunday

Hebrews 10:25
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

Pastor AIO:
Joagbaje, I'm afraid that you belong to that category of illegitimate, bible twisting school of attempting to extort money from the poor and innocent.

Stop exposing your lack of understanding of scriptures and derailing thread unnesessarily. You belong to the group that attacks giving of money in churches because you dont give. Your stand and attacks against churches and men of God are unscriptural. For those of us that give ,the testimony of our giving is enough proof.

You will make a good novelist and writer.

Annunaki:
This is the kind of thing we expect churches to champion but the likes of our brethen pastor joe agbaje his mentor oyakhilome and their Believer's world Plc. Corporation would never lift a finger to help anybody. They are just uinterested in using the church to amass wealth for their personal greed and ego. Yet they call it "prosperity gospel" I laugh in haitian tongues

You are like a small child seeking attention. You must not do a post if you have nothing to contribute

aletheia:
According to you, the word of God has failed to come to pass.

aletheia:
Are you sure you are not a false teacher, no follower of Christ?
According to you, the word of God has failed to come to pass.

A warning for you:

I answered saharachic that way because of her shabby questions without details or explanation. But the truth of the matter as I said earlier is God never fail in his promises. But the word of God may not always necesarily come to pass. Let me explain. God told Moses to bring the Isrealites out of Egypt  and take them into the promised land. Moses only brought them out but didnt take them in. God already promise Isreal victory over the enemy even if they had chariots of iron but it didt come to pass.


Joshua 17:18
    But the mountain shall be thine; for it is a wood, and thou shalt cut it down: and the outgoings of it shall be thine: for thou shalt drive out the Canaanites, though they have iron chariots, and though they be strong.

Judges 1:19
    And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

Elisha prophesied that Israel would win the battle against Moab in 2kings 3 but they lost the battle ,When king of Moab offered his son on the wall .There are several issues in bible  both promises and truths that didnt come to  pass.  Not that God failed but man fail to receive. There are legal truths and vital truths. Legally God has done all he needs to do, but to make it a vital reality, there are steps of faith a man must take to activate the blessing or walk in their realities. Such as giving,praying, walking in love etc. . So if if you just ask saccastically , "has the word of God ever failed?" Yes! it has, in the lives of those who would not act accordingly period.


Mark 16:17
    And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


So many still argue over tongues and healing ,How can the prophecy be fulfilled?
Jesus said Lazarus would not die  but he died!

John 11:4
    When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death,

But thank God Jesus would not give up on his faith ,even though Lazzarus died ,he refused to recognise it and called him out as a living person.