₦airaland Forum

rich_john:
@Mabell
Its ideal you mind your business you didn't create me or know where I came from please keep your yahweh's jugdement to you am not scared.

FYI kunle ISN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR MY DECISION, By the way I thought I replied 'crook' agbaje not baby bell like ojagim wanted to call you

Marlbron:
Are those materials visible to your earthly eyes? Suppose they are not, in which case, you are right to say it is a higher plane. Agree it is not an illussion, nor imagination. But if it is a spiritual abode, then its residents must have spiritual bodies, simple.

Who told you that you cannot see angels? Who talked with Mary and Zacharia? Who left Abraham to destroy a neighbouring city Sodom? Who appeared unto the Galileans that were gazing on the sky? In the heaven angels are spiritual beings, on earth, they can take human bodies. That is why Hebrews 13;2. specified the need to entertain strangers.

Marlbron:
Where does it say that you will live in heaven for 7 years? When Paul was caught up to the 3rd heaven, did he physically go to the 3rd heaven? You only live in heave if you translate the earth, not with your physical body. The heaven is a spiritual plane with stages o doubt.

Zikkyy:
You too much abeg! I hope you dont mind if i start calling you Pastor Jo 'The Money Man' Agbaje

ogajim:
My question was:
Can the guy who created NL be classified a giver based on this alone considering the kind of impact he has made with this site and the millions of people who have benefited from it one way or another?

My point has been that giving can not be regulated, it must come from the HEART (from the abundance of which speaket the mouth), there is no requirement to give a percentage ( I have not seen it if it exists)

We are God's property and then somehow, he needs a share from what's his? The lack of sufficient offerings and other forms of giving is not enough reason to twist the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ for financial gains.

ogajim:
Quick question: Does the guy who own this site "Give" in the Christian way? I mean he created this forum for us to hash out a whole lot of stuff concerning Nigeria, I'll wait for your answer, Feds are closed no work today

viaro:
Liars will always come back to show their inconsistency - and I've understood you to be captain of anti-tithing liars, no big deal. The record still stands, and there's nothing you can do to wipe it clean other than admit your error. I shall leave it again and let it be -

(a) Kunle said: {"Tithing started in mesopotamia"}

(b) viaro asked: {Please, could you show us your source for that statement - that tithing started in Mesopotamia?}

(c) Kunle replies: {I won't bother answering these question}

I understand why you won't answer the question - you saw your falsehood being exposed and you panicked. But as regards the direct denials you're waving here and there and saying two directly opposite things, here it is:

(a1) Kunle in the other thread: {"I never said tithing originated from mesopotamia"}

(a2) Kunle in this thread: {"Tithing started in mesopotamia"}


(b1) my observation in this thread:
Kunle denied saying that tithing originated from Mesopotamia:
{Besides all this, I saw the thread last night where she kept asking you again
and again about that same question and you dribbled tight here and there and
categorically DENIED asserting that tithing began in Mesopotamia}
~~ see (a1) above: {"I never said tithing originated from mesopotamia"}

(b2) my observation in this thread:
Kunle in this threads shows up asserting what he denied earlier:
{only to show up here again making the same assertion
{"Tithing started in mesopotamia"} which you once denied.}


So, please tell me the difference in your lying spree between these two:

(a) "I never said tithing originated from mesopotamia"

(b) "Tithing started in mesopotamia"

You can keep your gutless hypocrisy and slow poison, KunleOshob - that's what plays out many times in the way you argue. Never consistent, hastily jumping to conclusions, and then brazenly lying on top of everything. Well done!

How does that show that "TITHING STARTED IN MESOPOTAMIA" which you asserted here but deny in the other thread?

Common sense helps us see that lying between two posts is unhealthy - in the first you claimed never to have said tithing began in mesopotamia, now in this thread you asserted the very thing you once denied! What common sense is there in this cacophony?

Where do those evidence lead to your assertion that denies one thing and then acclaims the same thing in another as regards the origin of tithes?

KunleOshob:
Banned ke sorry to dissapoint you i can't be banned i suggest you read the posts if you really want to know about the two witnesses, you might even be able to come up with an interesting sermon out of it on sunday [that is if you are not showing recorded sermons of pastor chris in your church then] The two witnesses might show up much sooner than you expect, you don'y want to be caught napping do you?

babaearly:
thats what i am trying to point out. the idea that a spirit lives after the soul dies is nonsense. Why do people still believe that spirits of humans are burning in hell right now?

Marlbron:
Why, the two men are

1) Our Lord Jesus Christ

2) John the Baptist

inedi:
But I didnt write the bible. what about Isaiah prophecy

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

babaearly:
You jumped this quesion mr joeagbaje

muhsin:
Where is that? Don't just reach that conclusion. . .

I quite don't get your point there: is it good or bad/wrong accepting and/or giving usury according to Christianity? Thanks

49cents:
Hebrews 6:4-6
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, [5] And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, [6] If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Hebrews 10:29
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

These passages are simply self-explanatory; there is no mention of sin unto death, rather it is said if they "fall away" meaning leave thw Faith they once savoured coming back to it would be impossible, just like what became of Lucifer, who fell from a high level of grace.

Matthew 12:31
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. There is a background to this quote; The Pharisees openly ascribed a miraculous work of Jesus to the Devil; The saving power of God they rejescted against their own
reason.

Christ spoke here of all manner of sin, meaning sin are in categories.
Obviously since the the Holy Spirit is the very principle of sanctification any sin against Him, which basically IS about refuting his saving power can not be forgiven since the soul has fallen into the state where he can not even access the mercy of God

It is very risky to complicate plain matters or do guesswork at spiritual things that is beyond ones understanding; cos it makes one to henceforth interprete every part of scripture from that viewpoint.

Ephes. 2:5
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved

Abu Zola:
Hehehe, confussion in the house