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Qualification for mundial na the target they set for am? On AFCON he go fail that one.
My people are just something else.

JohnBullMySon:
Contract terms failure. I won't judge him yet till he fails to either win Afcon or qualify for the mundial.

What are his objectives? And what is your definition of failure here?

JohnBullMySon:
No bro. Wait for Rohr to justify his sack by missing his objectives. Not to be chanting "Rohr is clueless" everyday because of a few matches. He has a contract that he hasn't failed in.

yea when his tactics are wrong the players should work magic.. I no understand this your logic. If we should go by what your are saying coaches should sign life contracts.

JohnBullMySon:
Individual brilliance right ?

I no be Rohr fan oh, but the energy wey una dey use yab am, use am to dey praise am when eh do well oh. After all, there will never be a time when Rohr will kick the ball by himself. It is the players playing to his tactics that either do well or badly. Make una no dey biased.

The thought of playing in Morrocco gives me hope. I am expecting a good game from SE, not because Rohr is good. It's just going to be one of those moments when we will come good. I hope we also play well. My sights are on the next round which will prove to be very tricky.

I no go surprise say dem pay big money for their yeye branding.

Odunayaw:
Oga Joe! I think say na only me the thing de irritate oo!
In fact, most logos of MDAs in Nigeria are sight for only tired eyes

why are we like this?
How do you crop Tiger and put on top basketball and net call am logo, and we have many blessed graphic artists in Nigeria.

Subzero047:
What I said about Nigerian basketball, I remember some people were doubting me but it was bound to happen

the problem be say you go see some players for the starting line up when never even perform for SE.. they think say na club football

do4luv14:
nairaland coaches don start to drop formation, tactical formations,


iya lets go, more to come

I don't see how Rorh has been vindicated as regards bringing Okoye from the 4th division in Germany. Are we trying to imply that if he gave other young GKs that chance, they won't have made that progression? For me, he is young and has room to get better. He has been signed to Watford maybe he can make the progression up. But I don't get all this vindicatory remarks. That he is signed can prove to be a big step, but can also go the other way. Signing to a club is one thing, making the mark eventually is yet another. As far as SE is concerned, he still has a fierce competition in Uzoho, because one slightly better than the other either way you want to go. Neither of them are super, but they are young. If there is something Rorh is seeing in Okoye, I have not seen it yet. Signing to Watford alone does not necessarily mean Rorh saw something that I have not seen.

I no see how Pinnick name enter this one oh. If na Rohr I go understand

Karlovych:
Everything is a competition to some people, we should be happy that at least we have 2 decent goalkeepers instead of having a combo of Agbim, Akpeyi and Ezenwa in the team. Okoye and Uzoho are good goalkeepers

better oye dey Emenalo head.

Eizzy003:
Newcastle just got a rare gem

Oh boy na Uzoho vs Okoye part 2..

so that's what I am saying. I can't put anything past the NFF. some of us here have made the position that Pinnick is in the business of proving that he is working on getting those players. Where proving that you are working comes before doing it the right way.

chrisooblog:
You are delving into the wider Nigerian anomaly. So many things are done wrong if we start listing them today till next year it will not be exhaustive.

yea Nigeria is an island. The only country blessed with home grown talents.

cromz:
Why NFF go dey chase average players.
Many of us don’t realize that the best players in the super eagles today are our home grown talents. If you don’t have a Messi/Ronaldo potential I see no reason a player should be chased. If I may ask what have foreign born players done for us? I think Nigerians generally are just obsessed with anything foreign.

sir let Komekn argue his matter.

So what I have alleged here is strange as to the normal workings in Nigeria?

Do you also find it strange that people have to buy slots just go get a visa interview at the US embassy?

chrisooblog:
What you have said is not strange (sadly) but you were humble enough to say you could be wrong however what irritates a lot of people on this thread is when our resident southgate states with certainty and authority something happened whereas the existing evidence doesn't add up.

Let's stay with the argument here. No one is crying over Ike Ugbo because we are loaded with options.
We are talking about the scouting process and how it is handled administratively.

Napoleon55:
"Ike could have easily went to nigeria but it was clear that he wants to b part of this journey"

For me,he went for d country who shows more seriousness at the right time,but it was not clear he wanted to be part of any journey.

First,he desired to play 4 england,
then nigeria,finally canada because that's dbest option 4 him.

There are many players out there.. you win some, you lose some.. Those you win, we will hear the story. Those we don't you don't, you also tell the story if asked. It's the same scouting process, no discrimination.

Arabiandude:
So what happens if after going about it privately it didn't work out and not even the player coming out to say anything in the case or Lookman? Won't he still assumed that nothing was done?

See, let me just tell you what I feel is the truth, there is no one that's bad in all ramifications, most times these guys at the NFF works really hard to get genuine results, just like every other in position of authorities. So we shouldn't always complain over everything because sincerely speaking, most of the guys out there today criticizing those in position of authorities will do worst when given same opportunity to fix things and make things right

I am going to make an allegation not because I see am with my eyes, but because of how we normally do things. And I could still be wrong.

There are people in the NFF who sit down on these files and are expecting the parents of these boys to do something before they will move their hands. Why am I saying this? Because this is typically what we do in Nigeria.

For those who don't know, do you know that to get a visa interview appointment date in Lagos now, you have to buy a slot? Now we are talking US embassy things oh. When it comes to blatant crude corruption all of us know anything is possible in Nigeria.

Ejaria matter that is public knowledge of where his interest lies

This is Pinnick in 2016:

"If you talk about Tammy Abraham, he is like my son, his father and I grew up in the same neighborhood. so when they talk about him, I just laugh because I know what to do. As for Ovie Ejaria, I talk with the father often, he just called me recently. These are people we have met and they are all excited about Nigeria,"

" I am yet to see a Nigerian that is regretting being a Nigerian. No Nigerian, even if they have four or five passports, they are always excited being Nigerians. I can assure you that we shall get them to play for us at appropriate time."

thank you! unless Ugbo says something

jihday:
if he had gone ahead to play for Nigeria you still won’t hear anything and you’ll think Canada didn’t do any chasing.

to answer your question, reveal the process and struggle after the deal is done and dusted.
People like him (as you put it) will praise Pinnick and the like.

Arabiandude:
I really need to bring this to your notice, if you haven't noticed about this yourself before and you need to stop it. You seems to find fault on almost everything that people do, mostly those that are not in your good books.
Pinnick or whatever his name is approached these FB privately, you would complain because to you he isn't doing anything because he choose to do it privately, and hr does the same thing publicly, you would still complain that he was supposed to do it privately.

Do you know why some persons that indulges in given and helping takes along the media when going to help? It's because of people like you because if they choose to do it privately, you and your kind will complain that these people are wealthy but aren't helping.

How does people satisfy guys like you?

wetin u dey yan bro.

I am telling you how we know it. I lived in Nigeria long enough, and visit at least twice yearly until 2020.
i no know wetin u dey yan about "used to mediocrity" bla bla bla

humility33:
I thought u said u leave outside the country

U seems to be so concerned and used to mediocrity or stagnant mode of recruitment

We need to embrace global changes and move same pace with the world

I hate it when we see nothing wrong or seems to get used to Nigeria administrative lopsidedness

Just imagine our female football is going way side already and lots more

for 3 years Canada has been chasing Ugbo did Canada say kpem?
Before oga coach start to talk na after Ugbo annouce switch to Canada. See scouting process!

I will not put anything past our administrative style. We are Nigerians we know how we do things at home.

Modified
I have been searching Google News (Canada English), I can't even find anything on Canada chasing Ugbo prior to the recent news.

humility33:
Express it here for me
Because all i read there is a coach that refuse give up in his pursuit

eh read that paragraph again. There is a reason why I am bringing it to your attention.

humility33:
I read about the coach tenacity and persistence in getting talents he desires or he sees available

seems you missed the last paragraph

humility33:
See persistence, pursuit and commitment

Thats something the nff need to employ in pursuit of foreign born kids while we harness tge home groomed talents

More on Ugbo's switch:

"Through our excel structure we were able to find a contact at Woodbridge who had let us know that Ike had the potential to play for Canada, this is back in 2018," Herdman told reporters, including One Media.

"So we contacted Chelsea's Head of Recruitment and at the time they just stonewalled the opportunity, they were very clear that Ike wasn't interested in representing Canada although we never got a chance to speak to the player who was young at the time.

"They were very clear he was on a pathway with England and that Canada wasn't an option."

He added : "Ike could have easily went to Nigeria but it was pretty clear that he wants to be part of this journey, this brotherhood we've created with this young group of men, and to take a country somewhere it's never been before and to have that experience that doesn't come around very often in people's football careers".

John Herdman: It was a 3-year process to land Ike Ugbo for Canada
Chelsea tried to block Herdman's pursuit of the young forward. But in the end, the Canadian coach got his man.

John Molinaro

Nov 5, 2021 • 5 min read
John Herdman

If nothing else, John Herdman is persistent.

Don’t try putting a roadblock directly in front of the Canadian men’s team coach. He’ll only bust through it, or find a way to navigate around it, and continue down the same path before eventually arriving at his intended destination.

A day after forward Ike Ugbo announced his plans to switch national associations from Nigeria in order to represent Canada, Herdman revealed it was a long process that was rife with many obstacles early on. Herdman ran into a brick wall when he first contacted Chelsea FC three years ago about wanting to talk to Ugbo, then a member of the Blues’ youth setup, about the possibility of playing for Canada.

humility33:
NFF should be asked

The lustre attitude towards this players switch should be worked on

people in this thread don't even know Canada "begged" Ugbo

humility33:
NFF should be asked

The lustre attitude towards this players switch should be worked on

haha.. Ugbo knew what he wanted? There were also stories that he was switching to Nigeria. So how did it change to Canada overnight?

CODMOK:
If there's player I will ever respect, it's Ike Ugbo. The guy plain die. No hanky panky. He declared publicly knowing what he want. I am glad that he has now decided for Canada. Be plain.

There are too many conflicting stories. When I get time I will have to read all the stories from the start and deduce something. Is someone telling me Ovie Ejaria also has been playing hide and seek?

CODMOK:
You didn't read that the boy just declared for us?. On this matter, leave NFF alone and tackle the players playing hide and seek with us

GBAMESTICAL.

Kog45:
Oga Napoleon the team no get identity we dey talk about World class,average abi na top class.

Bro make I no lie you,no world class player in Nigeria team,Ndidi just need to quit Leicester team to push for it,likely Osimehn would even attaint it before him....Ejuke and Chuckwueze are average for now with good potential to become top class if they can manage their career with good agent.....Iwobi is always hot and cold,so he is average...Iheanacho of Man city has the potential to be a world class but now average....Musa is average though he had four world cup goals but for his football career since that Leicester move,damn too poor.

The issue is simple,the team lack identity and today football we are watching is just too technical to just put 11 players on the field without any sound technical directives....this is more reasons we lost to a team like CAR,Sudan came up from 4 goals down to level up.

My man wahala dey and only Rohr can solve it...not only on this thread,fans are tired of Super eagles and they don't even believe in Rohr again,never did Nigeria recall a player from retirement even great Okocha didn't have that privilege but Rohr is telling us Ighalo is the answer....hope it works well.

And I hope they don't play to instruction

Napoleon55:
I hope rohr starts the 3 of ejuke,osimhem nd chukwueze in our next 2 matches in order to build understanding before afcon.

why we dey vex for Rorh na as he dey qualify us for every tourney?

The "Super Eagles of old" were the total opposite. They win convincingly. in fact if this SE dey play like them, SE for don gather so many fans so tey this thread go dey explode.. Tell me why people are not as interested in SE like back in the days. People love to win, yes, but they also love to watch good football.

After more than 5 years with Rorh look at our brand of football. Let them hype the "SE of old". Top 5 in the world no be beans.

andrewbaba44:
Lol ,I Agree with you ,but we go fight if you also begin hype current eagles

The way dem Dey talk about super eagles of old you go think say dem go World Cup finals