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So it all boils down to what you can achieve (recognition etc) from what you are suggesting, and that's the point. So the analogy with my explanation of it, is very appropriate. So lets slow down with this patriotic talk.

We never question the true motives of the players who turn out for us, some of which were persuaded that they would have better international careers playing for Nigeria. Then why the double standard questioning the patriotism of those choosing another country? At the end of the day it boils down to choices, and we can't read their minds unless they express their reasons why they made that choice.

TheSuperNerd:
You are asking as if you are new to this scenario. Like I said, even beyond football, I have seen this play out.

There is no other reason behind it so please don't act naive. He stands a better chance of achieving his international football dream with Mali than with Spain. Fact.

If he does that, he is likely to earn the love and respect of a whole nation. He will become a living idol to Malians if all goes well and he stands a greater chance of doing that with Mali than with Spain.

Dumping these will be because of the fame and more monetary endorsements the Spanish national team badge brings. That ia the truth.

And by the way, I'm in a discussion mode.. I don't take everything as an argument. There are no points to score.

TheSuperNerd:
I speak beyond the scope of a fan. I have seen this situation play out a couple of times and it boiled down to Character. This is not your daily materialistic job... This is about committing to a nation. You cannot change Nations after you have been "officially" capped same way you change Clubsides.

Adama gave his words to Mali as a Malian-born and even agreed to be unveiled with them. He told them he is committed and there is no going back. Now Spain comes calling... A more prestigious nation and he is eligible too because of his Spanish citizenship. If he accepts it will only be because he thinks of the huge financial gains and prestige he thinks and believes it will add to his standing as a player.

He is willing to sacrifice a potentially successful international football life with Mali for the pride of being called a one time Spanish international with maybe five caps and no impact at that level. It will then add financial premiums to his saallary standings clubwise... And then what? He misses out on a dream.

Mehn... This is akin to Esau selling his birthright for a pot of sweet satisfying soup.

Character is definitely at the core here.



And you are doing what you said you don't want to do... You are arguing.

How can you be too sure of the bolded? There are many possible reasons why he could choose Spain over Mali.
There is no guarantee he will have a good international career with Mali either.

And what if he chooses Mali over Spain because he feels he would have a better international career? will that then still be due to his love for the Malian flag?

TheSuperNerd:
I speak beyond the scope of a fan. I have seen this situation play out a couple of times and it boiled down to Character. This is not your daily materialistic job... This is about committing to a nation. You cannot change Nations after you have been "officially" capped same way you change Clubsides.

Adama gave his words to Mali as a Malian-born and even agreed to be unveiled with them. He told them he is committed and there is no going back. Now Spain comes calling... A more prestigious nation and he is eligible too because of his Spanish citizenship. If he accepts it will only be because he thinks of the huge financial gains and prestige he thinks and believes it will add to his standing as a player.

He is willing to sacrifice a potentially successful international football life with Mali for the pride of being called a one time Spanish international with maybe five caps and no impact at that level. It will then add financial premiums to his saallary standings clubwise... And then what? He misses out on a dream.

Mehn... This is akin to Esau selling his birthright for a pot of sweet satisfying soup.

Character is definitely at the core here.

my bro let's be real with ourselves. Nigeria does not have a good image administratively etc speaking. it will take people who want to make sacrifices for this country... Those are the true patriots. And there are not many of them.

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And I hope they won't regret it

jihday:
I don't see him turning Spain down, he'll definitely heed their call

That's the choice one has to make as the analogy suggests. in the Job scenario you look at which company you are more drawn to in terms of their vision etc. You also think of your future and prospects. There are several things you have to look into.. That flag thing to me na wash wash.. when we bring these things to reality and we apply it to ourselves it's a different story. But it's easy to just talk when you have a fan perspective.

TheSuperNerd:
There is nothing rocket scientific about this abeg. They have to pledge to one flag and one flag only and there is no way they will be drawn to both with same passion. No way. They must prefer one over the other for whatever reason.

You just got the wrong analogy. I know exactly how this goes. I thought you said you don't want to argue. Joe... Your analogy with jobs is wrong. This is about Nations.

Those Europeans want all the talents at their disposal JUST IN CASE. You for believe say Netherlands will go for Arnaut?

edi287:
LMFAO abi? Belgium dey a bit stacked Sha. The guy sef go dey do shakara now.

These players have allegiances to both countries. You won't understand unless you are in their shoes.

TheSuperNerd:
Ofcos you won't see the test of character on the line.

You analyse issues of national allegiance like they are just jobs one can change at will. I am sorry but your analogy is really poor.

Next thing we go hear...na Belgium don invite am hahaha

edi287:
Dessers with a Hattrick and two assists.

You get a job offer from Employer A and that was the only job offer at the time and you agree to it. Tomorrow when you wake Employer B give u job offer.. So you don't have a choice to make again because you had agreed to the first one? You call that test of character?

Anyway we have different mentality. Different perspectives I guess. no need to argue.

TheSuperNerd:
Up to him to turn them down or turn back on his agreement to Mali. This is always a test of character. If he falls into the Spain trap, then he is not that smart... but then this will show where his heart always was and if he is truly thinking about his international future.

ehnnnn?

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Woudn't this be a DISGRACE to Spain and all Spaniards if he turns them down especially considering he has agreed to play for Mali?
Spain no get PRIDE at all lol

jihday:
Traore agreed to play for Mali on Wednesday, now Spain have called him up for their upcoming qualifiers

u too my brother

TheSuperNerd:
K...

Now Cheers Joe the entertainer... Cheers... Sleep well aiit...

hahaha.. I won't fall this time to yabbing you..
just keep on keeping on.. when that day comes I go remind u.

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... E pain am... He dropped more words...

Man, don't feel bad okay...

Just keep up the asslicking childish nonsense you do... You shall be greatly rewarded... Salutes man...

you will fall into the wrong hands again someday... kwantinue

TheSuperNerd:
Yes Mr.Entertainer....cheers...

hahaha.. okay my bro..

TheSuperNerd:
Joebie.... Like I once said... You are entertainment. And a Child. So keep at it... You are doing great in your roles. It is what you have always wanted to do here. Derail... Lol... Goodluck with that.

its okay my son..
let the "ass licking" continue while he is trending hahahaha
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ur not even annoying me at all with your yabbbings.. you are a bunch of fun.. and i like you my friend

TheSuperNerd:
I only responded to a question. The true Patriot are here.

You didn't disappoint in acting like the Child I said you are in bringing Tammy news here because you simply love this asslicking job.

Like Chriskels said... I have left you behind. I ignored all your Tammy posts... But had to remind you that the true Patriots are here always discussing the True GWG players while you looking for a way to always "childishly" bring up English international, Tammy.

Man... You have lost the focus of this thread. You are just a joke now. Hahahahahahahaha...

lol
oga i no watch champions league chill.
na wetin i fit follow I go report

I was surprised u ignored.. hahaha u didn't disappoint me.

where Chriskels oh hahahaha

TheSuperNerd:
We are here... But you no follow... I wonder where your stats reports were when Osimhen scored in the Champions League this week while Tammy fired blanks... Lol

Still asslicking an England International on A Super Eagles thread... Kaiii... Na wa for this man...

i just dey quote my own.

ChrisKels:
Don't really know about that bible verse and chapter, but my morals and my african tradition teaches against grudges. As the gods never bear grudges against us why then should we bear grudges against fellow men.

no be so Bible talk am? don't let anger follow u to bed.. lol

ChrisKels:
To me, anything wey happened ystdy, died with ystdy

Ask chucks and villareal

charlesemeka85:
Thought he renewed his contract last season?

Hahahahaha

andrewbaba44:
Lol, you dey apologize but you still dey use scope find trouble

Smh

Hahahaha

ChrisKels:
My dear I tire oo. Na wetin make me love cyber Eagles. From Twitter, to WhatsApp to the main site na so we dey throw jibes at each other without getting emotional. Funny enough na old men full the site oo, most of dem don't even reside in Nigeria. if somebody like Emir Kongi Jofijofa enter here with his "useless player" mantra that means say here go burst, but over there we don't see it as anything serious.


But here, na just small thing wey u go talk, people dun tag u hater, tribalist

Thank u my brother. Me and yot dey fight well well o. U sef get mouth o. But the next day is always a new day lol.

ChrisKels:
My dear I tire oo. Na wetin make me love cyber Eagles. From Twitter, to WhatsApp to the main site na so we dey throw jibes at each other without getting emotional. Funny enough na old men full the site oo, most of dem don't even reside in Nigeria. if somebody like Emir Kongi Jofijofa enter here with his "useless player" mantra that means say here go burst, but over there we don't see it as anything serious.

Leicester should renew his contract and put a big tag on him. If they are serious they can go get him.

charlesemeka85:
Ndidi is likely to go for 50-60m pounds. If he is European his price will 80-100m pounds

Lol I don’t keep grudges. I’m just having fun on here.

ChrisKels:
Honestly u ain't really becoming annoying, but u becoming too childish Bkus we all know why u bringing the posts and u are rightly being ignored by everyone here. Thesupernerd has left u behind mate, thats maturity

Before. One day I would come to give back to Nigeria. I hope my people will let me lol.

jihday:
Unless Emenalo will do it as per patriot

If they want Ndidi, they should be ready to pay world class money.

charlesemeka85:
Signing players like maguire, Wan bissaka and pepe are signs that both teams are planning to get better.

Leicester can never be compared to arsenal or united even if they win the UCL and epl this season. Big clubs do have up and downs once in a decade or 2. Liverpool issue lasted over 3 decades before kloop's arrival but that didn't rub off the rich history and pedegree they have in European football.

City and been a mediocre club until the rich family from the middle east came and pumped money to the club and its fortunes changed automatically.

United and arsenal are among the footballing elites in Europe till date and there name is a bigger brand than Leicester in world football so let's not allow recent form deceive us.

No matter how hard atm strive in laliga they can never be as big as barca and Madrid.

It’s funny how people get super emotional in a faceless forum sha. Nobody know my real name here or know me personally, so anything goes really.

ChrisKels:
An apology to earthquake1:

Ever since I told him that he comes here with a mat from Monday through Sunday 247, my guy no dey gree come online again. Bro please I am deeply sorry, don't take it too seriously. Sounds funny but I miss reading ur contributions here, but that one wey u say "Andrewbaba44 IQ dey too low to decipher simple stats" no follow oo


Nwanne biko gbahalu m, return for us

I know I’m becoming annoying but see who is trending.

Agreed! What we should be talking about is a contract renewal with a commensurate pay package.

safarigirl:
those ones are two seasons away from fighting regulation. Upon they splurged money on the likes of Maguire, Wan-Bissaka and Pepe, they only got worse.

Ndidi did not pull Leicester out of being a mid-table team, into the Top Four, to go back to Egypt, by joining mid-bottom table clubs. He deserves better than to go and languish in mediocrity with those teams. When they put their house in order, he can join them. For now, let him enjoy the fruits of two laborious seasons.

U don’t declare. Do yanga and very soon your papa go tell u say NFF contact am

andrewbaba44:
How do you mean bro?

Any player wen declare for Nigeria, make him ready to wait tire lol

No sarcasm o. Every performing player needs representation here, else how the thread go be?

charlesemeka85: