Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:50pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
The problem is their parents are immigrants. if they were still in NIgeria they would probably have had the same talented children. Just as we have brain drain, there is also talent drain. For people not to see them as the same, baffles me. komekn: That's not a merit based system but a discriminatory and excluding one. That's essentially favoritism.
It enthrones mediocrity so because your in Nigeria born and or bred you should be favoured.
The NFF youth teams are not a social welfare programme. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:46pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
you are only thinking money/business.. but i made it clear with my explanation yesterday what one could consider when they are choosing between two companies. That analogy is so very appropriate if you are sincere with yourself and not just trying to win an argument. Talking about flag pride.. smh Modified i hope say all of una dey see where this guy dey take he yabbing go.? when person cause your mama tomorrow no change the rules oh. but I go ignore you  icon4s put your son in check now oh TheSuperNerd: And it remains really POOR. Tying himself in the neck? Hahahahaha.. just talking as usual. I think you just lacked the understanding to comprehend the major pointers I destroyed your business points with. Don't worry, raise your kids to have such shady sense of character when it comes to issues like these aiit, I'm sure they will make you proud. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:42pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
komekn which is why I also used the stock analogy yesterday. A sudden burst in form can get countries thinking what if..? but I no wan continue to argue. komekn: Martin Keown said of Traore considering his BLISTERING DEVASTATING PACE possibly the fastest player in the World.
That he is like a learner driver behind the wheels of a Ferrari. However, it seems like he is finally learning how to control and master the powered speed at his disposal.
IMO once he learned how to use his unique attributes he is UNSTOPPABLE. That's incredible potential not suprised Spain want him thru have nobody like him.
And if he learns how to merge speed with technique. He will be great asset for any team |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:41pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
To summarize my points I made yesterday, There are many factors to look into. Longevity is one among MANY Danielnino00: Just answer the question.. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:38pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
Read on.. and follow the conversation and you would get the point. Danielnino00: So u would chose to reject the offer from employer A even when your chance of staying longer with them is much higher than with employer B? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:29pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
Nerdie went on saying it's a POOR analogy, but ended up tying himself in the neck.. komekn: Some people have a very different understanding of what they think wisdom is. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:26pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
why u dey tag me na? my final take on this is icons is the organizer. Even if he is not the chairman of the committee he can still play all the outside roles he played in the last edition. The chairman of the committee is the referee of nomination of players into each category and the co-pilot in the counting of votes. That's something tbaba, nerdie or even any member of the committee can handle.. This will not stop icons from doing the outside work and all the important parts he played last year. We know where Icons comes in in this. Nobody can take that away from him.. Anyways, lets leave matter, this is not really a big deal. Humility017: then why is Oga raising dusts and even Joebie is stylishly supporting him in one of his mentions
nawa oooo |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 5:15pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
 forgiveness: You think every country are as arrogant at my Naija people? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:43pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
Yet another angle. Let people who know much about the Spanish team and their recent invitations argue this one. BascoVanVeli: Why can't Adama make the Spanish team? They actually need a player like him on their team. If 4 Villarreal players can get back to back calls for the Spanish national team I don't see why not |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:04pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
It MAY not be a great loss at the instant but could be eventually. Everyday no be Christmas. You will not find Osimhens and the likes every 2 years even even if u do proper scouting every time Mujtahida: I think there's common sense in what the goodjoe said. I even think that to the u17- down to the u20 should be left exclusively for Nigerian home grown talents except foreign born players who are exceptional at that age (those who are in the field will be able to spot an exceptional player when one pops up)
At the stage of the 17-20 age grade, the stake in footballing terms is not too high. We can safely keep it for our local boys without too great a loss. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:18pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
 Taliban: Please let no one bring up Anthony joshua discussion here again ever as he's an Englishman as well. If you know you know. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:11pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
That’s the point. Getting the best pool as possible. We will be better of for it eventually. jihday: Osimhen would have been better than anybody we could have gotten, imagine Tammy too came and we had them in our team can you imagine how lethal we'll be? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:06pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
Your take is a sentimental one because you are thinking of those who don’t have privileges but mine is lookin at the reality of our world today and thinking of the greatest heights we can possibly reach. . Nothing stops us from making our league better and also opening competition to all. I think that’s the real solution. Our crude methods in the past will not give us a competitive edge today. People are saying let’s do things as we did in the past. However, other nations who even did it better then have embraced the reality of globalization today, and are competing at a whole different level now. Which way Nigeria? TheGoodJoe: Leave the U17 for enabling players in the Grassroots develop. The U20 and U23 is there for foreign born. We Could have a super eagles team B that will be playing friendly games where the foreign borns could play and have a home based team also.
But the U17 should remain for thorough scouting of special home based talents and develop them.
Let us not finally destroy the u17 system that brought the country so much joy. We ruled the World in that aspect. Let us not kill it but improve on the scouting in a more comprehensive manner. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:55pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
Tammy derailing is a very touchy one among the many derailments here. I’m giving u what u asked for. Yanga dey sleep u go wake am. Utonwanne: Joebie is deviating but I think you are upping the fire. Let's stop all these abeg.
Joebie , you gotta stop your Tammy obsession. We 've lost him, that's the truth |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:51pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
Prejudice everywhere even in this time and age. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:44pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
How is what u said different from what I said? jihday: Noooo, you don't understand. U-17/U-20 equal opportunity for all, senior team if the coach feel they are good enough to bench current players then bring them in, but we shouldn't bring them because we want to cap tie them |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:16am On Nov 10, 2019 |
fact! somehow: Na real was
Most Nigerians are like their politicians jare |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:15am On Nov 10, 2019 |
wado!!!! jieta: Urhobo man, good to meet you. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 8:14am On Nov 10, 2019 |
It's an easy solution. Don't discriminate give them a fair chance at the U17 levels upwards, so we can have the best team possible at all times. Some will stay loyal to us and should only earn a call up to the SE eventually. But if u just reserve a slot only in areas we have deficiency at the U17 level regardless, then what do you expect? By default they should be loyal to the country that has always given them a chance. jihday: Unless we want to invite them to our youth teams or if we have a deficiency in their position e.g okoye, I totally agree with you if a player isn't as good as who we have there's no point bringing him in just to cap-tie him. It's the same thing Spain are trying to do that we are crying blue murder urging us to do same is just being hypocritical |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:56am On Nov 10, 2019 |
 We are our own problem. I keep telling my mom that she is wasting her time going to Urhobo Progressive Union meetings. The kind of politics dey play there just to vote American chapter president, and even the president at local level eh.. it's crazy at every level it's the same mentality. na so so wayo dem dey do to vote.. That's why we cant stand against what is wrong in this country because in our very little ways we are the same. I was thinking exactly the same my bro but I didn't want people to start having a wrong impression, so I just kept quiet. modified I respect Icons for not falling for this. somehow: Why did they not vote for him during nomination?
You guys can't even practice Small democracy here but are quick to insult real politicians.
All the 13 people that liked this comment had the opportunity to vote for him but didn't, now trying to break Democratic rules.
If he's not there or not really available, won't life continue?
Make una respect una self jare. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:20am On Nov 10, 2019 |
Some of these boys want to play for us during their younger years. But we are not serious about anything. Not serious at developing our football and not alert when the opportunity is open to capture some fine talents. There is not need for the complaining and blaming of players. Anyway I'm glad we were lucky to get Aribo. I will rather have Aribo than Eze. Hopefully we get Ejaria as well. charlesemeka85: All I am saying is allow the kids to weigh their options and choose what's best for them rather than using and dumping them.
The final decision is made by the kids and their advisers but the European FAs do alot of underground work behind the scene to convince this kids of which their club managements re involved as well.
I could remember when eze was called up to the English u20 side he was granted an interview and he said he wants to represent Nigeria in international football which surfaced in qpr's official site but was taken down immediately. I saw it myself and no be hear say
The next day Eze accepted the English call up. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:12am On Nov 10, 2019 |
o pari jihday: I agree, they have the right to play them because they actually groomed them |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 6:11am On Nov 10, 2019 |
see as he call am pure Spanish boys.. our prejudice pass their own oh lol i don't care about what i dont understand lol. jihday: I swear, it's what Yoruba call aje ke lana omo ku leni |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:34am On Nov 10, 2019 |
i dey tell u the reality.. our own na to complain.. andrewbaba44: Lol
your matter weak me |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:32am On Nov 10, 2019 |
i no dey argue about Adama competition for Spain. I don talk am since say I no know who he come against.. but whether you complain from here to Jericho these Europeans will keep doing these things.. They have set the foundation to keep as much talents as they can to themselves. Make we dey look as we no sabi develop our own football for homefront. andrewbaba44: Nigeria is not spain, nigeria wey dey fight for ebere eze
You know how many players spain get?
Nigeria wey dey fight for championship bang average player na him you wan compare their situation with spain |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:30am On Nov 10, 2019 |
Netherlands nko did something fishy at the U17.. make we dey look  if u like no catch them young, then complain to UN when yawa gas. if u no help urself, who go help you? andrewbaba44: Lol to be sincere this joebie is a very funny dude
Can you imagine what he is saying self ?
There are players better than this traore, this spanish must be doing something fishy, adama has not been better than deulofeu this season self
Spain skip pure spanish boys like azoye perez and deulofeu for adama traore  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:28am On Nov 10, 2019 |
if he were 23 and a Nigerian won't you say he is promising? So Spain should not tie him down? To help Mali? They don't have an obligation to help Mali with a player that has grown through their ranks. Oga this world is never fair. If u no compete u go lose out. andrewbaba44: To be sincere adama is not good enough for spain
I no understand this your mentality, so because he score brace against mancity don turn achievement ?
Adama has not even done what inaki williams,iker munian has done self or cellejon and they could not even get more appearance
Adama is about to waste his international career |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 4:13am On Nov 10, 2019 |
I don't think think it will happen. Rather UEFA may have their way to getting us to pay them taxes... These boys are not minors when they make their decisions to represent one country. charlesemeka85: CAF really needs to approach fifa to find a lasting solution to this nonsense. This kids were born and groomed in Europe doesn't mean that they must be cajoured to dump the country of their parents when it's obvious they won't have a long and fullfilling career with the national teams of their country of birth.
FIFA have to make changes to the change of allegiance process by allowing this kids to change allegiance to the country of their parents with ease even when they have featured for the Europeans at the u21 level. Also a player must acquire up to 10 caps subsequently in the national team of their choice before they will be tied for life to that country and their club management must to interfere in their decisions.
If traore is cap tied now by the Spaniards and Rodrigo returns tomorrow what becomes of the former? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:56am On Nov 10, 2019*. Modified: 4:12am On Nov 10, 2019 |
Agreed. modified But why do you expect FIFA to help us? Now this is what I'm talking about when I said we should not expect handouts. These boys are considered adults when they make their decision. charlesemeka85: I agree to the bolded but it's only folks here who talk about pride always. The aim of this Europeans is to stock pile talented kids of immigrants for the purpose of leaning on them if their pan out to be world class in the near future.
I hv stated in previously in this forum for the need to incorporate this kids to our various national teams when they are yet to hit stardom but I was called all sort of names for suggesting such.
Germany few months ago invited an unproven Felix agu to their u21 team just because he had a positive discussion with Rohr to represent Nigeria and was penciled down for the Ukraine friendly.
The same with the case of ebere eze, danjuma and now adama traore. Fifa really needs to look into this matter seriously and that won't happen unless CAF makes the move.
Imagine ex barca youngster munir left in limbo just because Spain rushed and capped him which denied him the chance to represent Morocco at the last world cup and have since then overlooked for call up to the Spanish national team.
Look at the case of dele alli now who have been abandoned because of the emergence of Maddison and Mount.
Also I blame the advisers and parents of this kids who fell advise this kids well to weigh their options very well before rushing to decide. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:55am On Nov 10, 2019 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:39am On Nov 10, 2019 |
There is absolutely nothing shameful about a player turning a country down. It's on us to make playing for us attractive. That should be our goal, and things will change with time. You win some, you lose some. But make the move at the right time and win when you can. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 3:37am On Nov 10, 2019 |
To your question, probably not. And I have already addressed this in my other response. charlesemeka85: Oga this is just a plot to stop the guy from turning out for Mali, it's obvious.
He scored against man City and then what? You and I watch football and know the strenght and playing style of the best national teams in the world so do you think or see traore having a long career with the Spaniards?
Lets just be factual here instead of been logical. Do you think traore would have been called up to the Spanish national team if Mali re yet to approach him? |