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your story too long.. as long as Eze has honored our call to train with SE every other thing you are yanning is irrelevant.
Those introductory talks must have been done before that get-together.. don't forget Aina was also part of that training meet.. and prior to that introductory talks have been done with Aina.. Maja as well. would Maja and Aina have turned down an invite from England thereafter? Most likely not.. The truth is Aina and Maja never got invited by England since that meet. Correct me if i'm wrong.
These players have dual affiliations. As long as they qualify as Nigerians or Englishmen either country can call them up at will especially if they have shown they are open to representing either in the past.

charlesemeka85:
Some folks n their reasoning dey tire me atimes. So Rohr n the nff should just invite a foreign born player whom they not re sure of him having the ambition to play for 9ja without consulting him first?

Before keshi invited balogun he called him personally to know if he is interested to be a member of his team. It's unprofessional to pencil down the name of kids born abroad for an invite to our national teams without atleast reaching out to them first.

Even the likes of Aina, Iwobi, ebuehi, Ekong, victor moses, Anichebe etc were all contacted by one way or the other before they were invited to the national team.

The case of this kids are different to that of kids groomed in Nigeria who re automatically obligated to accept a call up even when they re yet to be approached by anyone from the glass house.

Even I remember so may years ago Obafemi martins initially rejected his first invitation to the national team with an excuse that he wants to solidify his place in inter milan's team then and when that was achieved he made his debut against Ireland in an international friendly.

Some here behave as if they know it all but thier post on certain issues here expose their ignorance.

Eze was in the get together organized by the nff few years ago in UK as an unknown quality but his fortunes have changed and after being capped by the English u20 side and currently having a good season with the possibility of moving to the almighty epl in few months time and a recall to the English u21 mooted in the media in the next fifa break, the nff and Rohr did the right thing to contact him to know his stand on repping us in the future which the young man informed them that he needs more time and I don't blame him for that because he has to make the best decision for his young career.

Lets try to be sincere to ourselves rather than castigating and vilifying the nff and Rohr for not inviting him without his consent which will even make mockery of the German and nff chiefs to the outside world.

The area I blame Rohr was not capping him since last season though the lad wasn't consistent then. I once advocated for fast integration of this kids most especially the talented ones to our national teams when they re yet to hit stardom but I was insulted here and labeled an ass licker.

Eze left the door open and their is still chances that he will play for us in the future so let's wait and hope for the best

hahahahaha.. e don reach that one?.. the visiting Nigeria requirement.. as if Rohr or the NFF dey check their immigration records
i don too laugh tire for this thread

charlesemeka85:
The nff and Rohr have to be proactive in getting this lads but it is unprofessional to invite a player who if well checked have not visited Nigeria before without consulting him.

Imagine appointing a Nigerian professional born and groomed abroad for a governmental post without reaching out to him first. Make we dey use common sense abeg

and Eze had been to a Nigerian national team camp before England came calling.. . Our ways tire me..
a country that wants to keep it's pride but keeping disgracing themselves in funny ways.

jihday:
Because Maja have never been to any English national team camp

if playing an unofficial game is like dating another man, how about training. if e never play official game dem never shook

Lucque:
Nd den he represented anoda country... Common courtesy will require dat u ask him if he is still interested in playing for u before u roll out his name nd get embarrassed... because u kissed a gal... Nd now she has dated anoda man... U will just go nd ask her hand in marriage immediately u see her again because u once had a fling?.. knowing dat d moment she marries u.. she cant be with anoda man again... Guy u still reason am without prejudice abi na wetin komekn de call am

I asked because I didn't know if it was already said here. For those who say we shouldn't be using foreign-born players in our U17 team, we have a prime example here of a another European country who are no minnows in football having a very open mind and not being discriminatory.

TheSuperNerd:
Well, several of them sound Dutch to me at least judging by the ones I have watched at the WC so far. I don't know much about their bench. But what exactly is the point of asking about the Dutch nationality diversity? It is normal to see a Dutch team having a diverse group. I remember 2005 vividly with Owusu Abeyie, Ibrahim Afellay and a few more.

Barryseal:
His mother could be his manager don't you think?
You know... Like Pogba's mum is his manager.

na the mama thing dey vex me.. and people are talking about due process.

ChrisKels:
A very stupid stuff.

Boy say him wan play for Nigeria, him sef come ur camp for England follow u train, instead wey u go send him invitation letter as u did Maja who also follow u train for Barnet, u indirectly go meet the mama begin talk "shoot bird mama fly". Why u no meet Maja mama too nah.

Okay, if due process was followed, was Eze notified?
That would have been a good time for Eze to pull out and we will not be talking about disgrace. Why all this mama talk?

Barryseal:
Oga, maybe you don't have information how invitations get sorted.
Let me gist you. Players are notified 1 week or 2 before the invitation list is made public. Durring this little window, players can pull out if there are injured and replacement called up. That is standard practice. A player who has never been capped will be will be first contacted through his club or management to know his readiness.
Sorry to say, but due process was respected in the Eze saga. Only insatiable Nigerians will fault the management of the call up leaving the man at the centre of it all.
The bulk stops at Eze's desk here. You can't blame anyone else except you have contrary evidence.

Rohr met him in a get together 2 years ago, and today you don't have all those information. interesting.. Why is Maja's case different?

Barryseal:
What is wrong in consulting him first? Do you know the state of his international passport? Are you sure he even has a Nigerian passport? You have to acertain his readiness before giving him a call. Same courtesy was accorded Ebuehi.

oga which kind drink u like that time?

ChrisKels:
Did england seek his consent before giving him that invite, knowing fully well that he once trained with us. You seek consent when the said player has played a competitive game or if it's ur first move. U don't seek the consent of a player that has trained with u, whose profile on every reputable website reads Nigerian, before giving him an invite.

help me.. because Eze was never quoted.

My argument here is that if he was called up outright, will we be hearing from his mama?

Barryseal:
Like you didn't read the report.

but have we not been disgracing ourselves already the way we have been going with these approaches?

naming a player who has honored a call once is not disgraceful to me at all, if he turns it down this time.

Barryseal:
What is a country without a sense of worth and pride?

u fit help am answer. what did Eze say according to the quote?

Eartquake1:
Are you still on this matter?

okay and what did Eze say according to that quote?

Barryseal:
Rohr was quoted verbatim by a renowned journalist. Such report cannot be categorized as rumor.

nothing changed.. nothing official.. just rumors. talking to his mother.. stupid stuff.

Barryseal:
So what changed this between this year and last year when he would have been delighted to honor the call up?
Did we kill his father?

The problem is we too like drama.. we say if a player turns down an invite it's a disgrace to our country.. all these rumors circling around about how these players are not ready, telling us to wait till next year etc say he mama this he mama that, what do you call that?
make una enjoy the fun hahahaa funny people

u try well well.. na Sunday sha.. make i spare u..lol

charlesemeka85:
Leave pple wey dey reason Tru their anus

we had prior engagement with Ebere Eze.. he was in the get to-gether.. he is familiar with us.. That's more than enough. Dude would have been delighted to honor our call since last year sef.

Barryseal:
This was how Berti Vogts invited Toto Tamuz without prior engagement and the boy rubbished the country.

haha... approaching Tammy papa and Eze mama no be disgrace?
no be the matter we dey since.. then they will start to talk story say they were never invited like Tomori talk...
If the guy has not been cap-tied and has once honored our call, why ask permission from he mama?

Eartquake1:
England, Nigeria requests for players of DUAL NATIONALITY consent before handing them an open invitation especially when he's playing in a youth team of another country

You don't just assume a player is going to play for you and disgrace yourself by handing him an open invitation

you can because none of the games were official. Did we expect Eze to turn down England's U21 call up? We never called him up for an official game. That's the crux of the matter. If Aribo was invited by England, would he have turned it down?

This is Mikel Agu:
“The aim of every footballer is always to represent his or her country and when I heard of my invitation, I was excited because i have put in a whole lot of hard work and determination to get this call up.

Why did Rohr not seek his permission first?

Eartquake1:
Eze is playing with the England's U21

You can't just name him

According to fifa.com, "13 of the players have foreign roots or are born outside the country"

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"The Netherlands also arrive in confident mood after retaining their European title this year. Boasting a squad with a large contingent born outside the country, the Europeans will be hoping that the mix can help them improve on their previous best finish of third in 2005.

Despite not having a particularly good continental championship, Brazil have been preparing well in recent months. That coupled with the arrival of some new faces has the home fans dreaming of a fourth world title in this category."
fifa.com

TheSuperNerd:
Most of them are Dutch. One or two Moroccan-dutch judging by their names and there is one Kenneth Taylor which sound Dutch-American to me.

Maatsen, Unuvar and Taylor are their most exciting players.

many many examples I can give. Was Esiti's consent sought before he had a recall to SE? How about Azeez? I have not read such report anywhere.
Collins nko? I can go on

Eartquake1:
Nobody names a player without his consent

It is not done

so na tail of last season u dey focus on... what about when he was very consistent? haha.. u choose what you want to choose, when the total stats show Eze was even more of a regular than Etebo. I'm not pitching both players against each other. But how can u talk as if Eze has done nothing to warrant a call until this season? That is a big fat lie.

charlesemeka85:
And can you make mention of any other cm in our possession then better than etebo?

Etebo wasn't the most gifted but was a mainstay in stokes team last season and one of their best at that. Eze was on and off and was mainly a bench player during the tail end of last season

I praise Rohr in his areas of strength.. but when he dey F up, i go talk am as e be.

@ charlesemeka85

This is Oghenekaro Etebo's stats in the same 18/19 season. If you consider this SE player consistent in the championship, then why are u speaking another language about Eze?

when that initial story was reported here, I had my own take on that.. now the second story is quite conflicting. it begs the question, why are we even asking his permission. if we have invited him in the past and he honored it, they we may as well invite him again and see if he would. it solves the entire drama.

charlesemeka85:
And Rohr is a mad man to disclose to the media that the kid was contacted through his mom but he demanded for more time to decide? So you believe a journalist instead words that came out from a coach who's media officer had a conversation with the boys mom? Go rest abeg

@ charlesemeka85

below are snapshots of Eze's previous two seasons in the championship. Now let's check the facts. When was Mikel out of SE?
Was Eze not a consistent performer the season before now? Who was deputizing Iwobi in SE at the time? Or would have been the best AM to deputize Iwobi at the time? Rohr was not interested in getting another consistent performing AM even in Mikel's absense. It was not a matter of rushing Eze into the team, but providing a cover in the absense of Mikel.. The thing would have been sealed without criticisms from many long. Now we dey go approach person for permission when don already honor our call in the past. Na so Balogun etc case be that time?
Most of us won't have criticized Rohr if he had called up Eze then. The fact remains that a handful of us here have been clamoring for Eze. And i'm not speeking of the period he auditioned.. make una no dey find something talk when the facts are there.

when did he say so, and who did he tell?
When Rohr was asked according to the so called journalist nothing was said of that nature. so you have chosen the story you want to believe and you are making this argument because of the path you have chosen without facts.

charlesemeka85:
eze have never said he is not interested in playing for Nigeria but only asked for more time to decide so let's allow him to make the decision. the nff and rohr will still keep in contact with him until he decides.

many here wey dey form patriotic if you offer them the opportunity tomorrow to denounce nigeria and move to the Uk,canada or australia they wont think twice before dumping 9ja. make una stop to play saint abeg

okay!!!!! the context here is Eze had been called up in the past although not for an official game. DIFFERENT.. you guys make it seem like i'm criticizing for no reason, when in actual sense you are defending Rohr anyhow.

charlesemeka85:
and you think the nff and rohr will just pencil his name down without seeking for his consent first? hmmmmm bros nawaooooo!

even before the likes of balogun,ekong and other were given there first call up to the national team they were first contacted to know if they are interested in playing for us.

if rohr went on to invite him without contacting him first and he refuses to accept the invitation na still here una go label rohr and the nff unprofessional

tell me about the composition jong oranje team. Are they Netherlands-born?

TheSuperNerd:
Netherlands are good. They were just unlucky against Senegal. They whipped USA 4-0 and I think they can make it among the best 4 third placed teams.

Japan is beating Senegal. Not surprised. But again, Japan wants to top the group shaa and get an easy Round of 16 draw.

why we no talk he mama before we invite am for get-together?.. haha

jihday:
So his mama influence weak abi? You no see Ebuehi example wey we approach via his papa? Same boy carry his two legs go train with England U-21, truth is he's sticking out for a better future as per international football

i'm not even for either story. I'm just saying he should have been invited officially, which was never done.

iSlayer:
That story is not an official one. No allow people stress you Joebie.