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I want to know if Ebere Eze is not the kind of midfield Rohr is looking for. From what i've seen, he is the kind of AM Nigeria has been waiting for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiCMfBtPKYw

Something is lacking these days -- confidence.

Na ur moniker I dey find that time. Lol

Truidstar:
Cyriel Dessers!!!!!!! Who needs Tammy when we have Dessers!!!!! Call him up!!!! Call him up!!!

as a child you need a little bit of stubbornness. Parents may have good intentions but they are not perfect.

forgiveness:
Because majority will not allow their child to play. I know of one rich boy who wanted to be a footballer. His mother didn't allow him despite the fact he passed Manchester United trial.

The guy ended up going to a university here.

Even average Nigerian will not allow.

Nigerians go dey act like say na dem dey pay other people pikin school fees

Danielnino00:
Its not by force... Every individual has the right to make his /her own decision...

ugly

Danielnino00:
New look of d Abuja stadium pitch

you are both saying the same thing. To put it simply, Nigeria was a fall-back option.

ChrisKels:
In summary he never wanted to play for Nigeria, he only kept Nigeria as a tool to improve his career should things go wrong this season and he fails to realise his 3lions dreams. From the bolded, d boy only wanted his not-so-good self for Nigeria and his good self for England. So Nigeria isn't worthy of having a Chelsea starter in him, we are only worthy of his loan self to mid able or relegation team abi? Bros stop defending the indefensible, Tomori never wanted to play for Nigeria. Period

In a football context you are fully a national of the country you commit to and play for — dual nationality or not.
But the term here is used in a different context. It’s similar to racial prejudice.

Earthquake1:
If they decide to switch allegiance to Nigeria it makes them more Nigerian and less (the other country)

That's why you can't play for two countries for God's sake

Nigerians in Nigeria are treated as less Nigerians and they think someone else is less Nigerian. What an irony.

tbaba1234:
That does not make them less Nigerian.

Even within Nigeria, we all have different choices.

They are blind

Earthquake1:
You don't know factors preventing Ebere Eze from getting his call up

Don't think NFF are blind, besides all these guesswork about him being cap tied or not maybe different on actual administrative grounds

Write a column lets publish it in all Nigerian dailies.

Modified
The only difference is that we have institutionalized corruption.
In other climes it’s hush hush.

komekn:
You have given us another outcome delivery of the complete and endemic failure of government.

Tell me one sector in Nigeria that does not reflect the same symptoms. This problem exceeds football it is the Nigerian problem.

I finished high school in Nigeria and for a brief period l worked in an accounts department in a tertiary institution in Nigeria at my Father's request.

Corruption was endemic and rife l challenged it at great cost. In the end all the accounting staff were sacked apart from myself and the Chief accountant who in the middle of the night slaughtered a goat in satanic ritual. I left not long after that back to England, l could see that integrity and honesty were no longer attributes of commendation in Nigeria.

On this thread there is in depth resentment to diaspora Nigerians and or so called Foreign born Nigerians. But why l am at loss.

Meanwhile look at how our people take every insult under the sun, denigration and abuse to get a visa to leave the country. It's incomprehensible we show so much displeasure about foreign born Nigerians yet we want to get there.

A Nigerian owned TransGlobim International won a £500 million contract to build a railway line in Iraq. But couldn't even get off first Base in his own country. Even to get an MOU was like almost impossible with all kinds of delays and unnecessary bureaucracy.

We reject honesty and truth but welcome corruption, nepotism, illegality and government impunity. I watched how my former Governor after leaving prison was welcomed by the entire political elite at the highest levels.

Do you know it is very much easier I mean. VERY EASY for me to become an MP in England. But the depth of depravity l would have to go through to become a state house of assembly selected and then elected makes it impossible for me.

This problem exceeds football we need a change not of government but in ourselves. Until we change as a people we will get the rulers we deserve.

Maybe he is saying he doesn’t intend to cap them for that reason. Only if they deserve it. Or at least trying to make the duo feel he did not invite them for that reason.

KpagoGIN:
Was this actually what Southgate said concerning Tam and Tomori? seems the list had external influence against the coach then.
P.S It like NFF virus has entered the English FA.

I hope he caps them and not leave them on the bench. Let’s turn the page for once on Tammy especially. The long drama is enough.

jihday:
Both of them are in, list officially released

Sad

tbaba1234:
Isaac promise passed away last night.. so sad!!

Call it a rule or whatever. As long as u get my point. This no be law court.
The truth is you will always find people who will discuss about Tammy as if he is a potential SE player. Even after he is capped by England they will still continue talking about what would have been. There is absolutely nothing we can do about it. People are people.

safarigirl:
It's not a rule, wherever did you read that.


If we must discuss Tammy, we can discuss him the same way we discuss Ronaldo and co, as international players. He is not a Super Eagles player, so, we are discussing him in the context of an international player.

Like I said, he is Nigerian in his father's house, on the pitch, he is English. The sooner some people stop forcing us to discuss Tammy as if he is a Super Eagles player, the better for us. His growth, stagnation or whatever will not affect the Nigerian team, will it?

I don't know where forgiveness brought up talk about eligibility and citizenship. My point was clear as day, but can easily be misconstrued by the usual persons.

Even the discussions about Ronaldo and Messi can be tiring in its self. The priority on this thread is Super Eagles players, everyone else is an after-thought, including Tammy.

That’s the other side of the story. There will be players who will have long careers with England. It’s his choice to make. Let’s respect it and stop chasing him.

jihday:
body just dey pepper those saying he's not good, the boy is just 22 if he keep his head down he'll surely improve. They said Alli will get 2 caps too but he his proving them wrong.

When we stop talking about Dafoe, Ronaldo, Suarez, Messi, man city and many clubs that have no SE players in them even when they are not playing relevant clubs, then we can keep to that rule.

For me SE players come first, SE hopefuls, other Nigerians, in that order. The new dawn of players will contain a mix of these.

safarigirl:
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We are not here to discuss his citizenship. This thread is for Super Eagles players, as you can probably read, not for Nigerian players. So, when we discuss anybody here, we are discussing those that are eligible to play for Nigeria (and want to play) or already play for Nigeria.

We are not discussing those that go to Nigerian Weddings in London and eat Jollof rice, then wish Nigeria Happy Independence and fly the flag whenever a Burna Boy jam comes on at a club in Essex. This is not the thread for those ones, else, we may also begin to talk about Skepta and John Boyega.


As far as this thread and the rest of the workd is concerned, Tammy is English. Be guided

But in the quote he said “right now..”
Nothing hilarious about it to me. If the likes of Success and Iheanacho have followed a better path to development they would likely be stealing headlines like Osimhen today. I personally don’t famcy our players rushing to the EPL.

TheGoodJoe:
It is not today komekn started. How hilarious the post looks now.

Way to go. If many Nigerians think like you the county for don progress tey tey.

Starboytwo:
I imagine what the super Eagles attack will look like in say 2 years from now...

Imagine an osihmen and chukwueze leading the line for the Eagles, Shay we no go kee person like this...

It's our time folks, the next 5 years should be a memorable one for the supporters of the SE......


Abraham is a good player, one man here would not make me hate him, I wish him well in his career, to be honest I do not hate any Nigerian player, home or FB, I always wish all our brother well....

I wish he gets to play a couple of games for england tho, we all know the age of Harry Kane and rashford, and we also know he only gets in if they are injured or rested, but I pray the 9ja blood in him can help him get close to 20 caps Sha...

How u take know say he no get Nigerian passport too?

safarigirl:
Nigeria's laws do not supercede international laws, as regards nationality.

Anybody without a Nigerian passport, will not be regarded as a Nigerian in the international community. You may even be born and bred in Nigeria, but you will be identified with the passport you possess on the international front. When Pius Adesanmi died in the fatal Ethiopian plane crash last year or so, he was listed as Canadian, because he had a Canadian passport. A certain actress, Hannah John-Kamen, has a Nigerian dad and Norwegian mum, but she is British.

At most, Tammy would be of Nigerian-origin, but as long as he has an English passport, he is English.

All Nigerians win.

komekn:
Chelsea win but a big win for Nigerian players.

Osimhen had barely any chances but did very well on the header. But after that Zouma gave him no breathing space. Great heart from him.

Tammy with a goal Tomori with an assist and Willian with an excellent goal.

I only have interest in Tammy if he is an SE hopeful. Since he don post us till next year I concluded that his future lies with England because he will definitely be cap-tied before then. So there isn’t any point talking about him here. However we still hear about Messi, Suarez and other players who don’t really have biz here, on this thread. So who am I to say...?

ChrisKels:
Guess komekn, forgiveness and Joebie's prayer points since morning.........?


Oh yes u guessed it right. They av bn praying "that Osimhen doesnt outshine Tammy today"

It was just meant to happen.

Danielnino00:
I've watched Denis goals more than 10 times already and I can't stop laughing... ..Too funny..
I guess he was very nervous before scoring the first goal..or maybe it was some dummy style he used on Courtois

My position has always been showing interests in Nigerians groomed abroad should not stop you from devoloping football domestically. The NFF, club management and all stakeholders in this need to be proactive.

It’s not a lot of work to court foreign bred players. compared to the enormous work needed to get our system working at home. The NFF on their part are only following the fastest way to get results. They are being lazy and not looking at the big picture - the huge potential in our homefront. Delayed gratification is not in their dictionary. Clubs as well are not looking to the future. In my opinion, I think it’s the general mentality. People want money sharp sharp.

Earthquake1:
Agbolanhor, Solanke, Jordan Ibe,John Fashanu @ the bolded

Also these guys were born in England and raised in England, The English FA sponsored them through youth training and different tournaments.

We should be respectful of ourselves enough to have our own production line and not be seen as vultures that poach only when the talent has been groomed

Na u dey confuse urself. You are trying to put the balance on administration alone. But the fact is club management are also stakeholders in this.

somehow:
Why are you confusing yourself or don't you know the meaning of grooming again?

But clubs make up the league. So what are u talking about?

somehow:
Leagues don't groom players oga. leagues make use of professional players.

Grooming is done by clubs with academies and private academies.

I never used the word outstanding to start with. But let’s assume I did.

How do u get to rate the league based on player quality? How can raw talent be attributed to the league? How has the NPFL helped to groom players?

somehow:
You used the word first or you forgot what you typed?

Yes not in top 10 based on organization but not in player quality!

are we talking highlights now? isn't the season still young? So we have switched now from not playing for Besiktas or Gala to highlights. The dude will come good this season, then what would you say next? I believe Zuby will do well. He is getting game time and he is starting to make impact statistically.

Godsfavour78:
you just fall hand even the fat onazi get highlights for turkey pass zomby abi zooby.

As a winger he has lots of competition. But there is nothing wrong with wanting to play for your fatherland.

andrew444:
A good thing for Adekanye

I hope he want to play for naija sha

Talking about outstanding, that may be too much to ask for. Just tell me your definition of average and we can make the word substitution.

That said, if I called the Armenian league or the Latvian league whack leagues, will you term that degrading?
The NPFL not making the top 10 in Africa (according to you) says it all. Then never use that word degrading again.

Are all the players in the Armenian league bad? Are all the players in the Singaporean league bad? Think about all the worse leagues, are all players there bad? I've answered your questions with those question.

You can't blame the players for the environment they play in. But at the same time they are products of their environment.

somehow:
Yes the league is struggling and not in the best 10 in Africa IMO
Few questions for you:

Are you saying those playing in the league are all bad players?

How many players actually become outstanding abroad in 5 years all over the world?

Use UK as a yardstick

Are the human resource the problem or the league policy makers?

Player transfers will always happen it doesn't say much about the quality of a league unless these players go abroad and start turning heads. The question is how many of these players are really making an impact abroad INSTANTLY (or even after say 5 years). I remember you responding to one of my posts and claiming the NPFL attracts foreign players. There is hardly any league without foreign players. Your yardstick for measuring the quality of the NPFL is faulty. NPFL clubs are doing badly continentally year after year. That says a lot. UEFA coefficient ranking, for example ranks leagues according to the impact domestic clubs in European competitions. Following the same measurement how would you rank the NPFL to other African leagues?

somehow:
To those who see nothing good in the Nigerian league.

I think it was 2017 or maybe 2018 before the WC

ChrisKels:
Which of the friendlies please?