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Ok sir

Icon4s:
I have previously made my list of legends and would only want to add two omissions to the list: Muda Lawal and Joseph Yobo.

Iwobi miss

See goal when auba miss. What would have been an Iwobi assist

Iwobi!!! Gernot Rohr no well

Well I have my own way of defining it. I’m not a TYPICAL Nigerian, that can swear anything out of sentiments.

As regards your example, Nigeria’s golden generation were the first to take us to the World Cup. You can hardly mention Nigerian football without talking about that 94 set which was a culmination of Westehof’s building for about 5 years. IMO our most impressive players in that era will definitively make the list of Super Eagles legends, and of course together with other iconic players before their era. These names would be first names to be mentioned for a long time to come BECAUSE OF THEIR EXPLOITS IN THE GREEN WHITE GREEN.

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Yekini was very well celebrated even before Tunisia 94. I remember as a child always hearing his name. I didn’t know him until after the World Cup lol.

But yes talking about legends, let people who really followed the game and know the history speak — Iconic monikers like icon4s (pun unintended) and Kog45

daveP:
@Joebie, dyu know that the Nigerian way of qualifying to be a legend is just one act that makes the whole country go wow for years to come.... See likes of Yekini. For example that his first goal at the world cup is what is etched in the minds of hundreds of Nigerians. it was one act that made him Everly remembered. Many can't even remember how and when he scored his other 36goals.

Aghahowa and his back flips. who can forget that too? Some see as legendary!

Okocha too has that status, many in here with use analysis to say he doesn't.


Finidi George

Taribo West lol

Peter Rufai

Ike Shorunmu

Oliseh's thunderous strike earned him that status.... did he have other great games like that again?

On and on..... Osaze too can't be forgotten even up till now. Mikel has been around for so long that it's the length, and not the heroics, if there are many to count, that would earn him the status.

Moses has such moments in 5years. Besides He reduced the the blood pressure of many retirees watching their TV sets. Lol.

It's a relative term and Nigeria has its own unique definition. This settles it.


European way is a Lil heroics+length of time spent playing for the team.


Jens Lehman comes to mind

Hmm Osimbajo fire this guy o.. those of us when dey join dey fight for Giwa here when e happen, we will have absolutely no reason remaining on this thread.

ChrisKels:
Dalung waxing lyrical after his proposed ministerial visit was turned down by fifa.

Dalung to fifa; "u dont scare us"

This guy doesnt have the interest of the nation at heart, I wonder why he hasn't been relieved of his duties or even killed for goodness sake.

Hahaha

The first players that come to mind based on their exploit for Nigeria’s senior National team FOR ALL TIME are Super/Green Eagles legends.

For me neither player is in that category.

Kog45:
Agreed is not s legend to you but what of those saying Osaze is a legend but Moses is not a legend.

HYPOCRISY.

Anybody who has been following joebie here knows I’m a fan of VicMo.

this is how I tag legends. If you mentioned Chelsea FOR ALL TIME, what are the first few names that come to mind? Ask the same question about the Super Eagles, for all time etc. Yiu don’t need to even compare stats.

Take for example Samuel Okwaraji. He may not have played in any World Cup. In truth, I don’t know him as a player, but he is extremely popular in Nigerian football. I know for one that he died serving his fatherland. That alone coupled with what he may have done for Nigeria in his playing days puts him in that legendary status. He is remembered for all time in Nigerian football.

chrisooblog:
yes victor moses is a super eagles legend his national team record stacks up with our all time bests. Afcon? check. went to world cup? double check. played/playing with top clubs? check. his goal record coupled with his appearances is great. if Kanu who has a poorer record in comparison to vicmo is a legend then what are we arguing about? osaze better than vicmo? i don laugh tire.

victor will be missed but the emerging talent we have coming through should tide us over

you don't have to be a fan of the man but based on his records in the GWG he deserves huge accolades

Kanu is not Super Eagles legend.

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Like I already said, I respect VicMos’s decision. And he’s been my favorite player for this current era, especially Pre-Russia. But I wouldn’t call him a SE legend.

Kog45:
Oga humility let's take it easy on Moses.

He has done his best for Nigeria in his chosen profession and achiecved a lot which i think average football fans must appreciate but really surprised seeing gurus here trying to downplay his achievement.

If i don't remember anything i remember his awesome contribution during 2018 WC qualification matches.

Super eagles legend or not is debatable cos personally i don't see Kanu Nwankwo as super eagles legend but to a lot he is super eagles legend.

Haha exactly

Humility017:
Dude is also BJ fundation club legend.
and also 2018 world cup qualification legend.

Calling a spade a spade.

tbaba1234:
Never in the history of Nigerian football have we pulled in as much sponsorship. We went to a world cup with no bonus issues.

If not for this giwa issue, we would have done a lot more of the field.

Best NFF chairman in my lifetime.

It’s been abused even outside this forum. That’s the world for you, today.

elyte89:
I didn't tag anybody legend boss Icon4s

D word "LEGEND" on Dis forum has been abused, so I don't even knw who to call a "LEGEND " again ,every body na legend now

Extremely famous o

forgiveness:
That's it.

Ok e don do. Moses is a Wigan/AFCON 2013 legend

See eh, I like Victor Moses oh, but the word legend have already been abused before now. So Carry go

forgiveness:
Moses was already a popular figure in the EPL with Wigan and that was the main reason Chelsea bidded 5 times for him before Chelsea bought him from Wigan.

He could had played for England during that particular peeiod when he was adjourned the best dribbler in the EPL but he refused and still played for Nigeria.


Check your facts right, abeg.

Am I suppose to be jumping up that they are eating Nigerian food? I’m just kidding o

tbaba1234:
Keanan Bennnets and Mandela Egbo, two Nigerian Bundesliga players to keep an eye on, having some 9ja food.

Okay, what has that got to do with my post?

forgiveness:
Sam Okwaraji, Muda Lawal and Mutui Adepoju are also legends.

I dont know much about Richard. It wasn’t a generalization. There are special cases. For example, even if Tammy turns out successful for the Three Lions he would hardly be the toast of Nigerian fans. Still he would become an English football legend. That’s an example.

forgiveness:
Why is Richard Owubobiri not the toast of Nigerian fans despite his exploit in Europe?

The problem is Ethiopia rate us higher. For you to agree to want to play there, they begin to doubt your abilities. Same applies to those backwater leagues in Europe. Nigeria is a popular football nation.

The player’s agents should stop making it look like the players they represent are desperate even though they actually are.

ChrisKels:
Lol an Ethiopian club turns down Dele Ajiboye unless he is ready to undergo trials before they can consider him. Chai the NPFL ntooorrr!!!

Spain scores

You’ve made a good point. But truly the definition is customizable to a context. Because if we wan talk the real legends for the world of football, only few African National team players will make the cut, talk less of listing Nigerians. That word is a special word oh, but considering it’s been used for many players, there have to be some classification by grade.

Having said that, Ahmed Musa is a Super Eagles World Cup legend. Ikpeba is a Monaco legend. Kanu is an Arsenal/Ajax legend. Kanu is also an Olympic football legend, I can go on. But where will you put Moses?

Mickael2:
Personally I don't think any of the current SE players should be considered a legend. I mean we have missed three AFCONs and we are not even top of our AFCON group right about now.


To Musa specifically, AFCON 2013 he was a no-show. Yes he scored two goals at the WC but we lost that game, what does that make Osaze whose goals won us the game that actually qualified us for the second round? What about Kalu Uche who scored all our goals at the 2010 WC bar a penalty which till today I do not understand why Yakubu did not just give it to him. Are those guys legends too? Then he scored two goals against Iceland. I am not hitting on him but these are hardly legend worthy, you can say that he will be remembered but not as a legend. To make the point clearer I never watched Teslim Balogun but I knoenof him, true legend. some of these kids do not even know who Uche Okechukwu is although I grade him as one of our best defenders ever, to me he is a great player but not a legend, his name might eventually be forgotten.

Arguably a Super Eagles legend on the back of World Cup performance alone.

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He can hardly be forgotten so long as he holds that record. That’s legendary.

Mickael2:
so because of that he is a legend? I rest my case

achievements make you popular. What you do at club level will make you the toast of Nigerian fans. So it’s hard to separate it really. Football na football

edi287:
So we're using popularity and not achievements now??

Kanu is extremely popular on the back of his exploits at club level and in the olympics. That automatically made him noteworthy in SE. Hence he is a legend in Nigerian football generally. He is a legend arguably for most of the clubs he played for.

I don’t think Nigeria has produced legends post the Golden generation. Only a couple players could barely sneek in, Enyeama (he remains one of Nigeria’s best keepers ever), Mikel, I will put him a tab below the formentioned class. He may not be loved by the majority of Chelsea fans but was definitely an important player for Chelsea. His popularity during the tussle between ManU and Chelsea from his youth days, and his exploits in our junior team can hardly be forgotten many years to come. For the Super Eagles, he would be remembered especially for his contributions in 2013/2014.

Is Victor Moses a legend? He was a very important player for Chelsea in their EPL win a couple seasons ago, and as a matter of fact, our best player leading to the World Cup. I still think he needs to tick a couple check boxes to earn the right to be called a legend

edi287:
We are talking about achievements ON THE PITCH for the national team please.

Atlanta 96 was an age grade competition.

Vic Moses had a better AFCON than Sunday Mba. He has performed for us at the WCQ.

Vic Moses has performed just as well or even better in the super eagles than Kanu.

Did Kanu ever make the Afcon team of the tournament?

How many goals did Kanu score at AFCON and World Cup?

I agree. Let’s throw away the word legend and put them in classes by grade. It would reduce the argument.

Icon4s:
Talking about Victor Moses being a legend of the Nigerian game. This is subjective, depending on who you want to classify as a legend.

Let me role out my list of Nigerian legends and lets see if Victor Moses belongs to that Class.

Teslim "Thunder" Balogun
Christian Chukwu
Segun Odegbami
Adokiye Amiesimaka
Stephen Keshi
Rashidi Yekini
Emmanuel Amuneke
Austin Okocha
Finidi George
Daniel Amokachi (arguably)
Victor Ikpeba
Kanu Nwankwo
Sunday Oliseh
Peter Rufai
Vincent Enyeama

Does Victor Moses belong to that Class? I don't think so.

You made a very good point

komekn:
You know, until you know someone personally what you have is media driven perception, the real person is very far from you.

Getting anybody to jump to the SE is not the issue, getting True Top Quality Talent is. However, if you want to enthrone mediocrity, I guess your proposition in bold wins.

After being educated right here about the extreme harsh reality of life of in Nigeria, financially speaking. I can understand how people's perspective on commitment can become distorted.

Most Nigerian origin players in the UK who are on the ascendancy do not need the SE to promote and propel thier careers. It can even be a distraction that causes them to loose value.

The players in Nigeria considers the matter a LIFE & DEATH issue. And as such will do anything on and off the field and concede to all demands from NFF officials. And may seemingly be perceived as more committed. Is that commitment national interest or self preservation. It's a matter of perception.

I don't think you can judge commitment by assumptions on body language. That's being presumptuous in the negative and downright prejudiced.

It’s just a joke. I’ve not even see Mauruf play

BascoVanVeli:
What are his glaring weaknesses?

Nigerians go still open their mouth yab. Let’s respect his decision. All the best Victor Moses. At least he realized there upcoming players. No hard feelings

isan:
Moses message

I even rate uncapped Mauruuf (however it’s spelled) ahead of Akas lol

Icon4s:
It wouldn't be a ridiculous request. But the truth is they cannot add any value to what we have now.

Doing the same things and expecting a different result. This has always been our story since MRI became compulsory. Why must we always be in the news for this negative thing.

edi287:
You dey mind am...see how he says they are "shocked" like picking players of the right age is rocket science.
Nigerians sha...

We need to do our own localized screening before the MRI. Nigerians, we don’t like to find solutions by ourselves. We need to think think think, and we’d figure it out.

tbaba1234:
I believe there were 40 players from which the final 23 were supposed to be drawn from.

Many of the best players have been ruled out.

It’s not a big blow. It’s actually a great thing that they were fished out.

BascoVanVeli:
Eaglets U17 AFCON hopes shattered after 15 players fail age test, star strikers sent home


By Samm Audu -
August 14, 2018, 1:33 pm

Nigeria’s chances of shining at the forthcoming U17 AFCON zonal qualifiers in Niger Republic have suffered a major blow after at least 15 of the 40 best players failed the mandatory MRI age test just two weeks to the big kick-off.

Some feelers have even suggested that the players who failed could even be far more than officials were ready to divulge.

The players affected include four of the team’s star strikers as well as a highly-rated central defender from Plateau State, SCORENigeria has exclusively gathered.

We have further gathered that all the players have since been sent packing from the team’s training camp in Abuja.

Another set of 15 players are now to undergo the MRI scan to replace those who failed.

“It’s a devastating blow, everyone involved in the team is shocked,” an official admitted to SCORENigeria

Last year, as many as 23 players failed the age test so much so that the five-time world champions failed to qualify for the U17 AFCON in Rwanda.

Coach Manu Garba’s team are to begin their qualifying campaign on September 3 against Burkina Faso.

They are drawn in Group B along with Cote d’Ivoire and Benin Republic with only the overall winners of the seven-team qualifying competition advancing to the tournament proper in Tanzania next year.

http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2018/08/14/eaglets-u17-afcon-hopes-shattered-after-15-players-fail-age-test-star-strikers-sent-home/

Please how many were tested again?

tbaba1234:
15 players failed MRI.

team decimated again..