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Kog45:
CHAN update Nigeria, Cameroon, Zambia, Guinea in group B

what channel?

Danielnino00:
CHAN draw coming up in a bit.....

I remember what you wrote about balance. I think for balance sake it's good to have Ogu play at the left side of the double pivot. Still, it would be great if both players could also play with the other foot.

Mujtahida:
I am one of those who believes in Agu. I am only comparing his showing with that of Ogu. Ogu performed better. Don't say cameo ooo. As it stands every player should psyche himself to give his all even if he's given a cameo. Ebuehi had 45 minutes, he ran and ran cos that opportunity might not come again. Even if he misses out to Russia, nobody will say it was because he was poor in performance.

oh thefalse9

I actually read a blog on falsenine.com
Pretty good one too.

Mujtahida:
False9.com not falsenine.com

http://www.thefalse9.com/2014/11/joachim-loew-tactics.html.

falsenine.com ?
Checking it out

Mujtahida:
Germany especially. If fact Germany switched play to the extent that it cost them in Euro 2012. Go to false9.com I trust you will enjoy thier write ups.

That's what I'm saying indirectly. Aina will not only be fighting for the LB spot. Ebuehi will not only be fighting for the RB spot. Shehu will not only be fighting for the RB spot. As long as we are considering using different formations, other factors will be considered, it will be hard for us to really say. We should not only be looking for versatile players. But players who are effective in all the positions they can play. For now, we can say Victor Moses can play comfortably on both wings. Hence, he can play RW, LW, RWB, and LWB EFFECTIVELY. That's huge.

Mujtahida:
I don't really get. Is it that if Rohr adopts the 4!5-3-2 method we can only go with one spare RWB? And dropping two? I see us dropping one not two. Abi we go play only 5-3-2? What happens on a day we decide to play 4-3-3- where will the substitute for the RB come from if we have already dropped two out of the three we have?

We want versatile players, but we also want players with specialty.
I think for Etebo, it's SS

Mujtahida:
Etebo plays everywhere but how I wish he can be superb in one or two positions cos right now I don't even know how good he is. He is gradually becoming memory.

Azubuike Okechukwu? My bad. Azubuike actually went to the Olympics.. hmm home based? I dont know

Abuzuike is quite good in holding the ball

lexyman:
You re right , a good ball holder will do the magic . Their is a guy in the Nigeria League , still trying to remember his name . He played during the Olympic qualifier and had issue with Sia1 . Please help me with name . Where is that guy he plays that role better too , what league is he presently

We will have a good chance, yes. But, some of these countries are good at switching up play.

Abusule007:
If we perfect this formation, we will win countries like Germany and spain with it easily.

@bolded , rightly said, especially as they are all versatile

Icon4s:
If Rohr should adopt this system, then 2 of Aina, Ebuehi, and Shehu may not make it to Russia.

Very good question. Never seen him deployed there.

blueto:
Yes, the decision can be changed before the world cup. But for now, I agree with your opinion, but can Ekong play comfortably on the left side?

Yes Kareem Onisiwo.
Exactly!

SerVik:
Very true. There is a Nigerian in Mainz and Balogun is already talking to him. However, not every foreign born have that luxury of playing with an SE player.

V. Moses can play in almost any formation.

Napoleon55:
as a matter of fact,no formation that excludes V.Moses should be adopted,unless perhaps he is injured(God forbids)

People just refuse to be enlightened. Rather they choose to live in a cave. Cave way of doing things. Exactly why Nigeria is what it is today, and will continue to be so.

Where did you read it? Is it secret?

Modified
Now you are canvassing for a system were these players will have to send tapes etc. in other words beg the NFF, and wait. wow!
when a man thinks in his head that he is important, and everyone around him sees the opposite. Fool's paradise.

TheGoodJoe:
Did you read some players even sent their tape? Did you not read some players contacting the NFF/Technical crew stating that they are ready to play for us. When they are ready, they will let us know.

How would that discussion have been possible without a relationship?
Don't forget my earlier bolded. Mikel talked to him several times, and Aina joked..

Are you saying our current SE players should be the ones "begging"?
without a relationship first, how would Mikel have been able to talk to Aina several times. Wouldn't it be seen by you as "begging"?
Please highlight your system of making these players know that declaration is the easiest route to SE.

TheGoodJoe:
The bolded highlights my point. We want those that are ready to play for us. Finito. When they are ready, they can let us know and they are welcomed to fight for places.

Finito.

Colin is not Collins. two different names.
Mikel is derived from Michael. In Mikel Obi's case, it was PROBABLY misspelled at a point in time, then it stuck to him.

BascoVanVeli:
Just like Mikel I guess it looks better to him

Like you said we should not go to the WC with intent of sticking to one formation. Dynamism is king.
So other formations have to be in consideration. I think versatile players will have a stronger chance of making it to Russia.
Don't forget most of these players can play at least two positions.

Mujtahida:
This set up reveals that we are short of central defenders and we would drop either one from Aina, Shehu, Ebuehi. One would also drop from Moses Simon, Musa and Onyekuru.
.

I think we need a good ball holder and passer like Mikel. I think those are the qualities we miss whenever he is not on the pitch.
I think emphasis needs to be put on ball holding before we start throwing names

Modified
Okocha was somewhat a ball holder because it was hard for an opponent take the ball from him because of his sublime tricks. Mikel, rather, guides the ball so well, hence was able to replace Okocha in this respect. Okocha's passing is supreme though.

lexyman:
we need to play our next friendlies without mikel ... if we must do well in in the world cup ,its so obvious we lost lost a match and drew one without mikel , ... Rohr should look for someone to deputise him ... SHOPPING FOR A MIKEL DEPUTY SHOULD BE THE NEXT TASK FOR ROHR .

GUYS LETS MAKE A SHOPPING LIST FOR HIM ...

SO FAR I CAN ONLY THINK OF :
joel Obi
Sone Aluko
Azeez Ajagun
Chidiebere Nwakali
.

lets list players who can play in that role

Eniola debuted for England in 2004. Omatsone debuted for Nigeria in 2009. Eni is older.
This is a quote from wikipedia:

"Aluko was called into the England set-up at the age of 14.[citation needed] She chose to remain loyal to the English coaches who had given her the opportunity to play international football, but said: "The main thing for me is for people to understand that choosing to play for England doesn't mean that I don't support Nigeria. I'm as much Nigerian as I'm British. Of course Nigeria means a lot to me, it's part of me, but I've been brought up by English coaches."[55]"

Modified
Eniola was only 17 on her senior debut. Her brother must have been 15 or so

forgiveness:
I don't know but it his sister rejected Nigeria after she saw the way we mistreated her brother.

I like the 3-5-2 formation.

AS IT STANDS (of course we still have more friendlies to play that could change my opinion), these are my picks based on 3-5-2.

Key: ...... (slots yet to be filled)

blueto:
Greetings!

This is my preferred starting eleven for now in the 3-5-2 formation.
Moses should start for the RWB role while the likes or Ebuehi and Shehu can come in as subs. We can recall during the last world cup edition in 2014, Moses couldn't do very well against world cup teams in a forward role, despite his impressive runs against African teams in Afcon and other subsequent games against African sides, so why not avoid the same mistakes this time?

Another point is that, he can also impress in the wing back role, he is indefatigable in running, he can draw players to himself, thereby providing more space for Iheanacho and Iwobi to do some serious damages to the opponent's defenses. He can also drift in the 18 yard box to cause havoc when Nigeria is attacking just like how Idowu was found in the 18 yard box of Argentina too from the LWB role.

Another very important thing that Nigeria stands to benefit if Moses plays wing back is a very good defensive cover. Chelsea rarely concedes a goal from the right side if Moses is on the pitch and he is playing RWB, I can tentatively say that Chelsea have NOT conceded a goal from that right side with Moses playing the RWB role and even if they have, it will be on very few occasions. he always have that side looked against any team, and since he got injured now, Chelsea have been conceding many goals from there, which goes to show what Moses have been offering in that role. Now imaging him playing that role again for Nigeria and replicating that form, that will be a big plus to Nigeria.

Another point is that the flow between Mikel, Iwobi and Iheanacho combination should not be tempered with for now. If Moses is made to play a forward role now, his style of football may not suit the flow and thereby disrupting it. The combination between Mikel, Iwobi and Iheanacho have been devastating to defenses and should continue.

Why I picked Ogu ahead of Onazi for now is because of his good combination with Ndidi. We see the best of each other (Ndidi and Ogu) when they play. Ogu have showed he also has some pace and can use his positioning also to neutralize attacks, which can come in handy against those highly rate teams.

Awaziem is good with his left foot so he should play in the LCB role while Balogun should move to the center beacause of his "lack of pace."


So here is my preferred line up for now

BREAKING NEWS(?)
We should try to arrange 2 friendlies

@ Mujtahida

page 54 (Take note #8 )

44 List of players and accreditation
Release list of players
1.
Each association that qualifi es for the fi nal competition shall provide FIFA with
a list of no more than 30 players (hereinafter: the release list) whom it has
called up in accordance with the relevant provisions of Annexe 1 of the FIFA
Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players.
2.
The release list shall contain information such as the full last name(s), all fi rst
names, popular name, name on the shirt, place and date of birth, passport
number and expiry date, name and country of the club, height, weight,
number of caps attained, number of international goals scored, and it must be
sent to FIFA. Further details of the release list, and the deadline by which the
list shall be submitted to the FIFA general secretariat, will be stipulated in the
relevant circular.
3.
The release lists shall be published by the FIFA general secretariat.
Final competition 55
Final list of players
4.
Each association shall then be required to provide FIFA with a fi nal list of
23 players (three of whom shall be goalkeepers) and 27 offi cials (hereinafter:
the fi nal list). This fi nal list is limited to the players on the release list. The fi nal
list should show the full last name(s), all fi rst names, popular name, name and
number on the shirt, position, place and date of birth, passport number and
expiry date, name and country of the club, height, weight, number of caps
attained number of international goals scored and shall be submitted to the
FIFA general secretariat by the deadline stipulated in the relevant circular,
using the offi cial form for this purpose.
5.
Only these 23 players (except in cases of force majeure recognised by the FIFA
Organising Committee) shall be permitted to compete in the fi nal competition.
Only the numbers 1 to 23 may be allocated to these players, with number 1
being reserved exclusively for one of the goalkeepers. The numbers on the
back of the shirts shall correspond with the numbers indicated on the fi nal list.
6.
The fi nal lists shall be published by the FIFA general secretariat.
7.
The fi nal list of 23 players plus 27 offi cials will constitute the Offi cial Team
Delegation list.
Replacement of injured players
8.
A player listed on the fi nal list may only be replaced in the event of serious
injury up until 24 hours before the kick-off of his team’s fi rst match. The
replacement players do not need to be limited to the release list. Such
replacements must be approved in writing by the FIFA Medical Committee
upon receipt and acceptance of a written detailed medical assessment in one
of the four offi cial FIFA languages. The FIFA Medical Committee shall approve
the request if the injury is suffi ciently serious to prevent the player from taking
part in the competition. Upon approval, the association shall immediately
nominate a replacement and inform the FIFA general secretariat accordingly
(including all the specifi c player information listed in par. 4 herein as well as
a copy of the passport). The replacement player must be assigned the shirt
number of the injured player being replaced.
56 Final competition
Identity
9.
Before the start of the fi nal competition, all listed players must prove their
identity, nationality and age by producing their legally valid individual
passport with photograph (stating day, month and year of birth). Any player
who fails to submit his passport shall not be allowed to take part in the fi nal
competition.
Accreditation
10.
FIFA and/or the LOC shall issue each of the offi cial Team Delegation Members
with an accreditation bearing a photograph. In addition, FIFA shall provide
a certain number of Supplementary Accreditation Devices (SADs), where
applicable, to each team in order to control and restrict access to the dressing
rooms and fi eld of play on matchdays. Further details will be given to the
teams at the Team Workshop and by means of a circular letter.
11.
Only those players who are in possession of such accreditation are entitled to
play in the matches of the fi nal competition. The accreditation should always
be available for inspection prior to the start of the match.
12.
Injured players who are replaced up until 24 hours before the kick-off of their
team’s fi rst match (cf. art. 44 par. 8 ) must return their accreditation to FIFA.
Accordingly, players who have returned their accreditation shall no longer be
considered members of the Offi cial Team Delegation list.
13.
The participating member associations shall ensure that all accreditation data
required by FIFA is submitted by the deadline stipulated by FIFA. Further details
will be outlined in the relevant FIFA circular letter

Actually Colin is a different name entirely. It's not like Bryan versus Brian.
See this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_(given_name)

Mujtahida:
Colin not Collins

But I wonder why he'd bear the name and not go with the popular spelling.

Oga I don't mean to pick on you as I have shared some of your posts in the past. but as regard the bolded hmmmmm
1. Siblings are different. So just because a family member makes a decision does that throw questions on the entire family?
2. Your judgement on patriotism. Maybe you need to expatiate

goldfish80:
I remember Philip Idowu, he represented in England in long jumps.

I sensed political undertone abit from Aluko's case because his sister refused playing for Nigeria. If they were as patriotic as we think, they both should have played for naij.

Sone could have political ambitions in the future. It would have been impossible for him to get top political appointment if he represented another country. Recall Fashanu, even with his connections and influence was not permitted to run for any electoral office in the glass house.
He tried a couple of times and gave up.

I checked the Russia2018 World Cup Regulations book, and there was no such thing like that. Is it a new rule?

Well this is what I got from page 24 (List of Players):

19 List of players
1.
Each association entering the preliminary competition shall provide the FIFA
general secretariat with a provisional list of at least 50 prospective players for
the preliminary competition no later than 30 days before its fi rst qualifying
match. This list shall show each player’s last name, fi rst name, current club,
date of birth and passport number as well as the coach’s last name, fi rst name,
date of birth and nationality.
2.
This list is not binding. Further players may be added, showing the same
information, at any time but no later than the day before the qualifying match
in question.
3.
The only document considered to be valid proof of a player’s identity and
nationality shall be a passport that explicitly states the player’s day, month
and year of birth. Identity cards or other supporting offi cial documents shall
not be accepted as a valid means of identifi cation. The participating member
associations shall present each player’s valid national passport for the country
of the participating member association to the FIFA Match Commissioner
on the day before the match. A player without a valid passport shall not be
entitled to play.
4.
23 players may be entered on the start list (11 players and 12 substitutes).
The 11 fi rst-named players must start the match, the other 12 are designated
as substitutes. The numbers on the players’ shirts must correspond with the
numbers indicated on the start list (numbers 1-23 only). All goalkeepers and
Preliminary competition 25
the captain must be identifi ed as such. Three players must be goalkeepers,
with the number 1 shirt reserved for one of them.
5.
Both teams must return their start list to the referee at least 85 minutes before
kick-off. They shall also provide the referee with two copies of their start list.
The opposing team can request one of these copies.
6.
After the start lists have been completed, signed by the team administrator
and returned to the referee, and if the match has not yet kicked off, the
following instructions apply:
a) If any of the fi rst 11 players (starting players) listed on the start list are not
able to start the match for any reason, they may be replaced by any of the
12 substitutes. The replaced player(s) may no longer take part in the match,
and the quota of substitute players shall be reduced accordingly. During
the match, three players may still be replaced.
b) If any of the 12 substitutes listed on the start list are not able to be fi elded
for any reason, the player(s) concerned may not be replaced on the bench
by an additional player, which means that the quota of substitutes shall be
reduced accordingly. During the match, three players may still be replaced.
7.
Although no longer eligible to play as a substitute, the injured or ill player who
was removed from the start list may be seated on the substitutes’ bench, and if
so, would then also be eligible for doping control selection.
8.
No more than 23 people (11 offi cials and 12 substitutes) shall be allowed to
sit on the substitutes’ bench. The names of these offi cials must be indicated
on the “Offi cials on the Substitutes’ Bench” form to be provided to the FIFA
Match Commissioner. A suspended player or offi cial will not be allowed to sit
on the substitutes’ bench.
9.
The use of any electronic communication equipment and/or systems between
and/or amongst players and/or technical staff is not permitted.

Mujtahida:
Tbaba1234, Joebie, Icon4s and everyone else please help me confirm the above.

So are you saying Shehu and Aina are both defense minded, no attack in their previous outings for club and country?

TheGoodJoe:
You tell me. It is clear as daylight.

You can have a 4-4-2 formation. The selection of players can make it attacking or defensive. Yet it is still 4-4-2.

Gerrit?

Playing Seychelles in March won't have been a bad idea, unless we can arrange two friendlies in March.

Mujtahida:
It's not looking like a good decision. Moreover like you suggested earlier playing the qualifiers in March can also double as part of WC preparations.

Let's not look at things exclusively from the WC perspective and leave the Afcon to suffer cos the real consequences of that decision will settle in after the WC is over. European, South American and other federations will go home and we be suffering congested Afcon qualifiers timetable.

Tell am oh

modified
how do you create a system of asking Super Eagles players to talk to these lads without relationship?
And he said that's not begging.. if i send pikin to go talk to girl, what is that? lovely declaration system.

komekn:
I don't know how true the assertion in bold is.

Nonetheless, that entire conversation is completely underpinned by one word RELATIONSHIP.

Mikel has been like a big brother to Aina watching him in the academy grow etc

Just the same way I see young Bobby Adekanya in Liverpool academy with the younger boys irrespective of age.

One advice for you. Read your submission at least once before you post.
I have bolded your first line. Read through it again and again. Now tell me what it means.

TheGoodJoe:
They played to instruction because Rohr set-up the team to play negative due to his personnel selection. You can not select Sergio Ramos to play as a defensive midfielder and expect him to play like Yaya Toure playing the same role. Even if you instruct him to play like Fernandinho, he can not. So using the term play to instruction is not precise.

I think this needs to be revised one more time as some issues especially that of player bonuses have already been trashed out by the NFF.

Icon4s:
Nuff said and written posting on the NFF handle now.

First line was off point.. how about the subsequent lines? Does it not refute your assumption?

TheGoodJoe:
Your first line is totally off point. I said Rohr wanted to keep it tight at the back and chose players to help him achieved that. When we were down, he opted for players who can contribute more offensively.

The formation can not be only played one way. .